[191724] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: charges for prefix filter updates (was Re: Any ISPs using AS852
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ryan, Spencer)
Mon Sep 26 11:00:09 2016
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From: "Ryan, Spencer" <sryan@arbor.net>
To: Ken Chase <math@sizone.org>, Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 14:57:35 +0000
In-Reply-To: <20160926145151.GG26045@sizone.org>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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I've used HE's tunnelbroker (BGP) a few times to get our ARIN space to a si=
te while waiting on a local carrier to turn up v6, get the proper LOA, etc.
I've received better service from the NOC there for a service I didn't pay =
for than I have from any ISP I've ever given money. They are doing a great =
job over there. A LOA change (/48-->/40 le 48) took about an hour.
Spencer Ryan | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan@arbor.net<mailto:sryan@=
arbor.net>
Arbor Networks
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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Ken Chase <math@sizone.o=
rg>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:51:51 AM
To: Jason Lixfeld
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: charges for prefix filter updates (was Re: Any ISPs using AS85=
2 for IP Transit?)
Followup: we did the quote/PO/sign-the-order dance. That took about 3-4 day=
s
not including our side's lag (which was not insignificant, Im not the guy w=
ith
the pen). But now it's gone to provisioning and will be a standard *5 days*=
.
Cogent will do this in about 1-6 hours if you provide the LOA's with the re=
quest.
So will HE. And many others.
/kc
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:28:50PM -0400, Ken Chase said:
>I feel this can be a public topic:
>
>Rogers just charged us that for an update (one update, multiple entries)=
.
>We had to go through their quotation machinery too, took like 4-5 days. =
Additional
>time was wasted because we contacted their tech dept directly at the sta=
rt. (which
>is what I do for all my other upstreams...)
>
>Kinda brutal.
>
>Cogent and HE nor NAC or Yipes or Tata ever did that to us.
>
>Nickle and diming -- why, cuz transit is a cheap commodity now, gotta ma=
ke the
>cash somewhere?
>
>That said Cogent offered us a static /26 along side our BGP years ago th=
en warned
>us it'd be $50/mo or something for that # of ips going forward. We didnt=
need it
>so dispensed with it.
>
>/kc
>
>
>On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:07:01PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld said:
> >If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, I?=
??d be interested in hearing from you.
> >
> >I???d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying $250 for ea=
ch BGP prefix filter updated request, or if we???re the only ones???
> >
> >Thanks in advance!
>
>--
>Ken Chase - math@sizone.org Toronto Canada
