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Re: charges for prefix filter updates (was Re: Any ISPs using AS852

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ken Chase)
Mon Sep 26 10:53:42 2016

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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:51:51 -0400
From: Ken Chase <math@sizone.org>
To: Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20160915182850.GD15995@sizone.org>
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Followup: we did the quote/PO/sign-the-order dance. That took about 3-4 days
not including our side's lag (which was not insignificant, Im not the guy with
the pen). But now it's gone to provisioning and will be a standard *5 days*.

Cogent will do this in about 1-6 hours if you provide the LOA's with the request.
So will HE. And many others.

/kc


On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:28:50PM -0400, Ken Chase said:
  >I feel this can be a public topic:
  >
  >Rogers just charged us that for an update (one update, multiple entries).
  >We had to go through their quotation machinery too, took like 4-5 days. Additional
  >time was wasted because we contacted their tech dept directly at the start. (which
  >is what I do for all my other upstreams...)
  >
  >Kinda brutal.
  >
  >Cogent and HE nor NAC or Yipes or Tata ever did that to us.
  >
  >Nickle and diming -- why, cuz transit is a cheap commodity now, gotta make the
  >cash somewhere?
  >
  >That said Cogent offered us a static /26 along side our BGP years ago then warned
  >us it'd be $50/mo or something for that # of ips going forward. We didnt need it
  >so dispensed with it.
  >
  >/kc
  >
  >
  >On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:07:01PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld said:
  >  >If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, I???d be interested in hearing from you.
  >  >
  >  >I???d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying $250 for each BGP prefix filter updated request, or if we???re the only ones???
  >  >
  >  >Thanks in advance!
  >
  >-- 
  >Ken Chase - math@sizone.org Toronto Canada

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