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Re: Question on peering strategies

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marty Strong via NANOG)
Tue May 24 03:40:49 2016

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Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:39:21 +0100
To: Ken Chase <math@sizone.org>
From: Marty Strong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Marty Strong <marty@cloudflare.com>
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Typically you would use a private VLAN between you and another =
participant in order to connect to them separately from the public =
peering VLAN. You would do this instead of a PNI in a situation where =
you=E2=80=99re in a different building from the other participant making =
a direct fibre more expensive than the value it would bring.

A public VLAN is essentially the peering VLAN anyway, so an all =
participants VLAN would be a little pointless. Perhaps a VLAN shared =
between a couple of members *may* be useful depending on those =
members=E2=80=99 use cases, although I can=E2=80=99t think of one off =
the top of my head.

Regards,
Marty Strong
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> On 23 May 2016, at 23:24, Ken Chase <math@sizone.org> wrote:
>=20
> And what benefit is there to this 'public' vlan service? A shared vlan =
between
> all participants (with some well organized numbering/indexing scheme)?
>=20
> TorIX (Toronto) is about to have an AGM here and this VLAN thing which =
has
> been in the air for 3 years will certainly be brought up again.
>=20
> /kc
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 07:19:03PM +0100, Marty Strong via NANOG said:
>> The usefulness of an elastic fabric as far as I can see it are:
>>=20
>> - Can give you a private VLAN to some *cloud* providers that provide =
direct access to them in some other fashion than peering (assumedly for =
enterprises)
>> - Is spread across multiple buildings across a metro area
>> - Is elastic so can be divided between different services for =
different time periods
>>=20
>> In a traditional peering sense it doesn???t really offer much value.
>>=20
>> Just my two pence.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Marty Strong
>=20
> --=20
> Ken Chase - Guelph Canada


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