[189404] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Question on peering strategies
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Tue May 24 07:08:20 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <57442D08.1040506@netassist.ua>
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:08:09 +0200
To: Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
I disagree somewhat, without a view of how you are being hijacked there ofte=
n can be no remediation. Yahoo for example provides no cloud services so you=
can't purchase a view of their routing by getting a VM.=20
Jared Mauch
> On May 24, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> wrote:
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> I'm right here at RIPE 72 now, so I saw it of course ;)
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> The problem is not peering itself, but more general problem of filtering
> nets, and it was told in the presentation.
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>> On 24.05.16 13:19, Jared Mauch wrote:
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>>> On May 24, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua> wrote:
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>>> If you dig into hijacking topic more, you will see that hijacks through
>>> Tier1 is same or even more popular than through IXes.
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>> You may not have a view into that you=E2=80=99re being hijacked and used t=
o send
>> SPAM for example:
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>> https://ripe72.ripe.net/presentations/45-Invisible_Hijacking.pdf
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>> Their space was hijacked and announced facing Yahoo. I=E2=80=99m hoping t=
hat
>> Yahoo is now feeding public route views services as a method to help
>> with detection. Same goes for Microsoft and Google and other e-mail
>> providers. Some sunlight here would help avoid similar localized hijacks=
.
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>>> And if someone want to make me a transit offer for the price of DE-CIX
>>> (I do not even ask the price of DTEL-IX peering ;) ) - please, contact
>>> me off-list, I will be really happy.
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>> Pricing obviously varies based on location and a few other criteria, but
>> you should be shopping if this is a major part of your business.
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>> - Jared
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