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Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Fri Dec 5 20:51:58 2014

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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 03:27:48 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
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>>> rpki might work at scale.
>> ohhh noooooooooo!
> 
> rtconfig + prefix lists were never going to work at scale, so rpsl based
> filters were mostly only ever deployed on asn edges rather than dfz core
> inter-as bgp sessions.  This meant that the damage that a bad update might
> cause would be relatively limited in scope.  RPSL's scaling limitations do
> not apply to rpki, so in theory the scope for causing connectivity problems
> is a good deal greater.  So if e.g. ARIN went offline or signed some broken
> data which caused Joe's Basement ISP in Lawyerville to go offline globally,
> you can probably see why ARIN would want to limit its liability.

if it works, it is scary and must be stopped!  and arin is doing such a
great job of that.


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randy
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