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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] X which are not Y

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Fri Mar 22 11:52:04 2019

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On 3/22/2019 11:47 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:17 PM Christa Hansberry 
> <chransberry@gmail.com <mailto:chransberry@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     If I wanted to say, for example, "animals which are not tribbles",
>     how would I do it? I don't think *yIHmey bIHbe'bogh
>     Ha'DIbaHmey('e'?)* would be grammatical... but is there a good way
>     to say it?
>
>
> Why wouldn't it be grammatical? Pronouns-as-copula can take *-be'*: 
> *loD Quch jIHbe'/./* They can take *-bogh*: paq'batlh has 
> *ghaHtaHbogh*. *yIHmey bIHbe'bogh Ha'DIbaHmey'e'* seems completely 
> fine to me.

Note that the *-'e'* is not optional here.

Not only is it grammatical, but I don't see any reason not to say it 
either, if it best expresses what you mean.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/22/2019 11:47 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAG84SOsfzMDbh6iosxaZp5HQ_70kR45YfMjcoMt5zOv8-e-wNw@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:17 PM
        Christa Hansberry &lt;<a href="mailto:chransberry@gmail.com"
          moz-do-not-send="true">chransberry@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">If I wanted to say, for example, "animals
            which are not tribbles", how would I do it? I don't think
            *yIHmey bIHbe'bogh Ha'DIbaHmey('e'?)* would be
            grammatical... but is there a good way to say it? <br>
          </div>
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      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"
        class="gmail_default">Why wouldn't it be grammatical?
        Pronouns-as-copula can take <b>-be'</b>: <b>loD Quch jIHbe'<i>.</i></b>
        They can take <b>-bogh</b>: paq'batlh has <b>ghaHtaHbogh</b>.
        <b>yIHmey bIHbe'bogh Ha'DIbaHmey'e'</b> seems completely fine to
        me.</div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Note that the <b>-'e'</b> is not optional here.</p>
    <p>Not only is it grammatical, but I don't see any reason not to say
      it either, if it best expresses what you mean.<br>
    </p>
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