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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] original canon information on Facebook
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan Anderson)
Tue Aug 1 01:14:04 2017
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From: Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 00:13:40 -0500
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On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 10:33 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On a few occasions, original canon information have been posted to
> Facebook, which is somewhat unfortunate as posts are not accessible
> without an account. Furthermore, I've discovered that older posts may
> disappear.
>
> Here are the posts containing original canon information that I know abou=
t:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/468288866612668/
> {ghIn pIn} n. abbott
>
I do not consider "I once heard Marc Okrand say X" as a definitive source.
In any case, this is a phrase that means pretty much what the individual
words mean, and I doubt that anyone who could read it would need to have it
defined explicitly. Until it's confirmed by either a forwarded email or by
the testimony of multiple people who were present, I'm not going to give it
publicity.
> https://www.facebook.com/zrajm/posts/10154361398897846/
> {jIr} excl. Big deal!, Who cares! Whoop-dee-doo!, La-dee-dah!
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/tlhInganHol/permalink/1005787589437500/
> {qIt} n. a kind of bird [later also widely revealed at Saarbr=C3=BCcken q=
epHom
> 2016]
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/1386341591474053/
> {muylIS} n. eyelash [just now from qep'a' 2017]
>
These are in the New Words List, with appropriate attribution and with more
information.
> These latter two links appear to be broken and no longer accessible,
> but contained information on the words {qoSta'} and {'aplo'} not found
> elsewhere:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/459675987473956/
> {qoSta'} may be thought of as a flat version of {SIrgh}
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/459684117473143/
> {'aplo'} is the generic term for a small container
>
These words are also in the New Words List, though the first one doesn't
have the specific commentary you suggest and the second doesn't have the
certainty of what you wrote. Without an indication of where those phrases
came from, I'm not going to record them as official. As they appear to have
been deleted, I suspect whoever wrote them realized he was presenting his
own speculation as if it were authoritative and decided to withdraw it.
-- ghunchu'wI'
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On M=
on, Jul 31, 2017 at 10:33 PM, De'vID <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m=
ailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a=
>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On a few occasions, o=
riginal canon information have been posted to<br>
Facebook, which is somewhat unfortunate as posts are not accessible<br>
without an account. Furthermore, I've discovered that older posts may<b=
r>
disappear.<br>
<br>
Here are the posts containing original canon information that I know about:=
<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/468288866=
612668/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/<wbr=
>groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/<wbr>468288866612668/</a><br>
{ghIn pIn} n. abbott<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I do not consider =
"I once heard Marc Okrand say X" as a definitive source. In any c=
ase, this is a phrase that means pretty much what the individual words mean=
, and I doubt that anyone who could read it would need to have it defined e=
xplicitly. Until it's confirmed by either a forwarded email or by the t=
estimony of multiple people who were present, I'm not going to give it =
publicity.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/zrajm/posts/10154361398897846/" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/<wbr>zrajm/posts/101=
54361398897846/</a><br>
{jIr} excl. Big deal!, Who cares! Whoop-dee-doo!, La-dee-dah!<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/groups/tlhInganHol/permalink/1005787589=
437500/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/<wbr=
>groups/tlhInganHol/permalink/<wbr>1005787589437500/</a><br>
{qIt} n. a kind of bird [later also widely revealed at Saarbr=C3=BCcken qep=
Hom 2016]<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/138634159=
1474053/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/<wb=
r>groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/<wbr>1386341591474053/</a><br>
{muylIS} n. eyelash [just now from qep'a' 2017]<br></blockquote><di=
v><br></div><div>These are in the New Words List, with appropriate attribut=
ion and with more information.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
These latter two links appear to be broken and no longer accessible,<br>
but contained information on the words {qoSta'} and {'aplo'} no=
t found<br>
elsewhere:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/459675987=
473956/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/<wbr=
>groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/<wbr>459675987473956/</a><br>
{qoSta'} may be thought of as a flat version of {SIrgh}<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/459684117=
473143/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/<wbr=
>groups/LearnKlingon/permalink/<wbr>459684117473143/</a><br>
{'aplo'} is the generic term for a small container<br></blockquote>=
<div><br>These words are also in the New Words List, though the first one d=
oesn't have the specific commentary you suggest and the second doesn=
9;t have the certainty of what you wrote. Without an indication of where th=
ose phrases came from, I'm not going to record them as official. As the=
y appear to have been deleted, I suspect whoever wrote them realized he was=
presenting his own speculation as if it were authoritative and decided to =
withdraw it.<br><br>-- ghunchu'wI'</div></div></div></div>
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