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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] SuStel please tell me, I need to know..
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Mon Jul 31 09:35:54 2017
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 09:35:19 -0400
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On 7/31/2017 8:38 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> SuStel:
> > jatlhqu'meH tlhIngan Hol naQ law' Quenya naQ puS
>
> SuStel let me ask you.. At this sentence, the {jatlhqu'meH tlhIngan
> Hol} is a {meH}ed noun, something like {QongmeH Duj} ?
>
> Or does it mean "in order that klingon speaks a lot..", which sounds
> somewhat strange ?
>
> Or is it rather "in order that he/they speaks/speak a lot, klingon is
> more complete than quenya" ?
My intention was is the last one, though remember, *-qu'* doesn't only
mean /a lot,/ it also (and perhaps primarily) intensifies the element
it's attached to. I intended the intensification. /For SPEAKING (as
opposed to something else) Klingon is more complete than Quenya./ The
something else is described in the next sentence: *mu' mung qun je
HaDmeH*/for studying word origin and history./
If you interpreted *jatlhqu'meH tlhIngan Hol* as a *-meH*'d noun (I did
not intend that), you'd still get more less the same meaning. /Klingon
for SPEAKING (as opposed to something else) is more complete than
Quenya./ The *-qu'* wouldn't mean quite what I wanted, though, since I
wasn't comparing Klingon for speaking with Klingon for studying word
origins; I was comparing Klingon versus Quenya for speaking and Klingon
versus Quenya for word origins.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/31/2017 8:38 AM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAP7F2cKw_fcHEaN+RwX3CoOpHC_VuWU3LrMzNvdNd157mh7ODA@mail.gmail.com">SuStel:
<div dir="auto">> <span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">jatlhqu'meH
tlhIngan Hol naQ law' Quenya naQ puS</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">SuStel let me
ask you.. At this sentence, the {jatlhqu'meH tlhIngan Hol} is
a {meH}ed noun, something like {QongmeH Duj} ?</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Or does it
mean "in order that klingon speaks a lot..", which sounds
somewhat strange ?</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Or is it
rather "in order that he/they speaks/speak a lot, klingon is
more complete than quenya" ?</span></div>
</blockquote>
<p>My intention was is the last one, though remember, <b>-qu'</b>
doesn't only mean <i>a lot,</i> it also (and perhaps primarily)
intensifies the element it's attached to. I intended the
intensification. <i>For SPEAKING (as opposed to something else)
Klingon is more complete than Quenya.</i> The something else is
described in the next sentence: <b>mu' mung qun je HaDmeH</b><i>
for studying word origin and history.</i></p>
<p>If you interpreted <b>jatlhqu'meH tlhIngan Hol</b> as a <b>-meH</b>'d
noun (I did not intend that), you'd still get more less the same
meaning. <i>Klingon for SPEAKING (as opposed to something else)
is more complete than Quenya.</i> The <b>-qu'</b> wouldn't mean
quite what I wanted, though, since I wasn't comparing Klingon for
speaking with Klingon for studying word origins; I was comparing
Klingon versus Quenya for speaking and Klingon versus Quenya for
word origins.<br>
</p>
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SuStel
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