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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] tarDIghaD
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Wed Sep 13 13:53:04 2017
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:44:52 +0300
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I don't know who actually wrote it. loghaD wrote {Kaspersky chaw' ngoq
chovwI' <https://password.kaspersky.com/klingon/>vaD mu'vam lo'lu'}
Since he wrote {lo'lu'} and not {vIlo'}, then obviously someone else must
have written it.
qunnoq
On Sep 13, 2017 8:03 PM, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 9/13/2017 12:30 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> > qaStaHvIS poHvam, chImchu'bogh loghDaq > taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD, tera'
> Ha'DIbaHHom
> > pujHa=E2=80=99qu=E2=80=99.
>
> The {tera' Ha'DIbaHHom} which follows the {taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD} separated
> from it by a comma, is rather nice because it serves to explain to the
> reader, what this tarDIghaD actually is.
>
> The separation by the comma, of the words which follow it,
> recreate/resemble the way someone would change the tone of his voice if h=
e
> was actually speaking these words, in order to further define the nature =
of
> the tarDIghaD he is talking about.
>
>
> This is a common way to indicate noun phrases in apposition.
>
> > pa' chaw' ngoqvam baghHa=E2=80=99meH =E2=80=99oH, De'wI'
> > motlh lo'laH. 'ach Do' 'e' ta' neHbe' 'oH.
>
> And here, the interesting part is the {'ach Do'} before the {'e'}.
>
> [...]
>
> So, the question is whether the tarDIghaD passage is considered canon.
>
> Canon? Isn't this just a translation of something by loghaD?
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I don't know who actually wrote it. loghaD wrote {<a =
href=3D"https://password.kaspersky.com/klingon/" style=3D"text-decoration-l=
ine:none;color:rgb(66,133,244);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Kaspersky chaw'=
ngoq chovwI'</a><span style=3D"font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">vaD mu'vam=
lo'lu'}</span><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:calibri=
,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,=
255)"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"calibri, arial, helv=
etica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,255)">Since he wrote {lo'lu'} and not {vIlo'}, then obvio=
usly someone else must have written it.</span></font></div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><font face=3D"calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-=
size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></font></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:17.12px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">qunnoq</span><=
/font></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>On Sep 13, 2017 8:03 PM, "SuStel" <<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@t=
rimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class=3D"m_5033205265958072458moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/2017 12:30 =
PM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"color:rgb(128,0,128);font-fami=
ly:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:=
rgb(255,255,255)">>
qaStaHvIS poHvam, chImchu'bogh loghDaq > taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD=
,
tera' Ha'DIbaHHom =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0</span>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:cal=
ibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,255)">>
pujHa=E2=80=99qu=E2=80=99.</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:cal=
ibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,255)"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">The {tera=
9;
Ha'DIbaHHom} which follows the {taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD} separate=
d
from it by a comma, is rather nice because it serves to
explain to the reader, what this tarDIghaD actually is.</span><br=
>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">The
separation by the comma, of the words which follow it,
recreate/resemble the way someone would change the tone of his
voice if he was actually speaking these words, in order to
further define the nature of the tarDIghaD he is talking
about.</span></div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<p>This is a common way to indicate noun phrases in apposition.<br>
</p>
<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:cal=
ibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,255)">>
pa' chaw' ngoqvam baghHa=E2=80=99meH =E2=80=99oH, De'=
wI'</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:cal=
ibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,255)">=C2=A0>
motlh lo'laH.=C2=A0 'ach Do' 'e' ta' neHb=
e' 'oH.</span><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:cal=
ibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,255)"><br>
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">And here, th=
e
interesting part is the {'ach Do'} before the {'e'=
;}.</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:calibri,arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b=
r>
</span></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
[...]
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">So, the question is whether the tarDIghaD passage
is considered canon.</div>
</blockquote>
<p>Canon? Isn't this just a translation of something by loghaD?<br>
</p>
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