[474] in Public-Access_Computer_Systems_Forum
Lists--Comments
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Public-Access Computer Systems For)
Thu Jun 11 12:08:09 1992
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1992 10:52:26 CDT
Reply-To: Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <PACS-L%UHUPVM1.BITNET@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
From: Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS%UHUPVM1.BITNET@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list PACS-L <PACS-L%UHUPVM1.BITNET@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
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From: willis@unssun.scs.unr.edu (Glee Willis)
Subject: Re: Lists--Comments
In this morning's PAC-L "Lists--Comments" message, Bill Drew said:
> Concerning the "infoglut","junk" e-mail and inadequate systems,
> I still stand my ground that such issues MUST be discussed with
> systems administrators at your institution. I would bet that
> most of us don't know the full range of options available in
> our mail programs that might ease the "infoglut".
As has been suggested (*numerous* times) on this list, probably the MOST
effective way to deal with listmail "infoglut" is to read it as gatewayed
news, whenever possible -- instead of allowing it to clog up your mbox.
If you haven't yet figured out if you have access to Usenet (a.k.a.
"Netnews" or "news"), then you _certainly_ haven't been asking enough
questions! FYI, the following libraryland LISTSERV groups are gatewayed
into the corresponding Usenet newsgroups:
ADVANC-L bit.listserv.advanc-l
CDROM-L bit.listserv.cdrom-l
CDROMLAN bit.listserv.cdromlan
CIRCPLUS bit.listserv.circplus
CWIS-L bit.listserv.cwis-l
GOVDOC-L bit.listserv.govdoc-l
GUTNBERG bit.listserv.gutnberg
INNOPAC bit.listserv.innopac
MEDLIB-L bit.listserv.medlib-l
NOTIS-L bit.listserv.notis-l
PACS-L bit.listserv.pacs-l
SPIRES-L bit.listserv.spires-l
(and possibly others that I haven't listed here?)
Then Carol Goodson said:
> Maybe we need some kind of "duplicate removal" capability....
> like on DIALOG! :-)
If anyone is using procmail as their email filtering program, and has
written the code for detecting crossposts, PLEEZ contact me!! For those
lists to which I have to maintain subscriptions because they are NOT yet
gated into newsgroups, this is not as easy as one might hope!! In fact,
if _ANY_ UNIX email filtering program does this, PLEEZ let me know!!
Chocolate will be sent as your reward!! :-)
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From: Elizabeth S. Lane <llane@cni.org>
Subject: Re: Lists--Comments
>avenues other than directly. Liz Lane is appears to be using FIDO
>net. I was at a meeting yesterday where one of the librarians is
>getting e-mail to and from the network via a FIDO bulletin board at no
>cost other than her modem and phone call.
I do have a FIDO account, as well as a few others. Where there's a will...
And I"m not arguing agains some personal responsibility for us to go out
and find better resources. Heck, that's our profession's most common
activity!
But, it's simply not true that the FIDO option is free. Just because I
(and the woman you mention) aren't paying out of our pockets doesn't mean
nobody is. In fact, many FIDO bbs's don't support "NetMail" (which allows
access to an Internet gateway) because of the expense. Somebody (actually,
several somebodies) is footing the bill for a series of telephone calls,
for the maintenance of the hardware and software, and for a variety of
other costs. The costs aren't as great as a university's costs to supply
full-blown access to its users, but they're still very real.
>I also strongly urge everyone to look at the latest issue of BYTE
>where the term infoglut is from. It doesn't look at as only a problem
>as some people on this list do. It is looked at as an opportunity.
Actually, I'd be willing to bet that the term "infoglut" didn't originate
in that BTYE issue. (anyone want to do a NEXIS search?) Either way, my
feeling is that information overload is indeed a problem, in both print
and electronic media. The problem, however, provides us with an opportunity
to manage the material that is out there, and make it more accessible.
| Elizabeth Lane Current Internet: llane@cni.org |
| ** as of 6/19/92: ** |
| University of Alabama SILS Internet: elane3@ua1vm.ua.edu |
| Tuscaloosa, AL BITNET: ELANE3@UA1VM |
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From: Avi Rappoport <nilesinc@well.sf.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Lists--Comments
I was tired of getting hundreds of messages in my mailbox so I unsubscribed.
Now I read Pacs-L as an internet newsgroup, and that's a much better
solution. If people have internet access, I recommend this alternative.
