[12703] in Public-Access_Computer_Systems_Forum
Re: Netiquette query
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Lester)
Tue Feb 2 20:03:24 1999
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:40:43 -0600
From: Dan Lester <dan@84.com>
In-Reply-To: <v04020a42b2d423d60b4e@[209.31.8.41]>
To: PACS-L@LISTSERV.UH.EDU
Reply-To: Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <PACS-L@LISTSERV.UH.EDU>
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At 11:09 AM 1/27/99 -0500, Jim Warren wrote:
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>NOT SO! One of the major whines of advertising-supported publishers is
>that they paid for creating the material, but some other ad-supported site
>is using the material ... with or without attribution to the originator.
Linking isn't using it without attribution. However, putting it in a frame
within another website would be misleading at best, and that has indeed
been the subject of legal complaints in the USA as well. I'm not sure any
cases have ever reached trial, however.
>Ad-supported publishers include editorial content to get readers to read
>*their* publication ... not merely to receive attribution for their
>copyrighted content when it appears in someone else's publication.
Again, linking isn't putting it in another pub....unless something
misleading like framing it is done.
>Similarly, any free-lancer who researches and writes a substantive article
>(or snaps a desirable photo!), who wants to get *paid* for their work --
>will most-certainly NOT be satisfied to receive nothing more than
>attribution.
Well, if they want to get paid for it, then perhaps they shouldn't put it
on the web in a publicly linkable form. Of course if they put an article
on a pay site, and someone then copies the whole article and "republishes"
it (i.e. violates copyright law), then legal action is most appropriate.
>(I am *not* "siding" with the publishers -- just trying to point out their
>rather-legitimate howl. This whole thing is a *huge* contorted problem on
>the net -- and it's going to get much, much worse.)
I'm not sure it will be worse....just different. Nothing on the net is
new. Nothing. They are just different manifestations of old,
long-standing issues.
cheers
dan
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