[12698] in Public-Access_Computer_Systems_Forum
Re: Netiquette query
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Public-Access Computer Systems For)
Thu Jan 28 20:09:37 1999
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:02:31 -0500
From: Public-Access Computer Systems Forum <LIBPACS@UHUPVM1.UH.EDU>
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From: Robert Cunnew <robert@cunnew.demon.co.uk>
In article <48256705.00061180.00@nhqg01.nlb.gov.sg>,
timothypwee@nlb.gov.sg writes
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>Seems that the only objection ever raised was one in the United Kingdom
>where a newspaper brought another newspaper to court on the contention that
>the defendant had made the links appear as if the litigant's site was part
>of the defendant's site.
>
>Attribution of links would solve the objections I am aware of although I
>hear that the recent Sonny Bono Act might have some unusual requirements.
You might consider a formal disclaimer too, just to make it clear that
you aren't responsible for the linked pages. I would also steer clear
of the disgusting practice of "framing", whereby the other site appears
within a frame on your site. Apart from the confusing appearance
(particularly if the other site uses frames too), it could be said that
you are claiming responsibility to some degree if your stuff remains all
around the edges. I recommend the "target" command, whereby the linked
page opens in a new window.
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>PS Sorry no time to cite sources. Counter duty calls!
The case was between the Shetland Times and the Shetland News.
--
Robert Cunnew
Librarian, Chartered Insurance Institute, London
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From: timothypwee@nlb.gov.sg
Advertisers are interested in people visiting the site they sponsor, right?
However, if there are no links to a site, how would people know the site is
there? Do you want Alta Vista or Yahoo! to actually have to email every
site they want to index and get their permission before
indexing/cataloguing it?
I think you are confusing linking, which is the whole basis of the
Internet, with the pirating of content from one site and putting it on
another.
These are two separate issues.
Regards,
Timothy Pwee
Reference Librarian
National Reference Library
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From: Gilles Poitras <gpoitras@ggu.edu>
At 11:09 AM -0500 1/27/99, Jim Warren wrote:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>Seems that the only objection ever raised was one in the United Kingdom
>>where a newspaper brought another newspaper to court on the contention that
>>the defendant had made the links appear as if the litigant's site was part
>>of the defendant's site.
>>
>>Attribution of links would solve the objections I am aware of ...
>
>NOT SO! One of the major whines of advertising-supported publishers is
>that they paid for creating the material, but some other ad-supported site
>is using the material ... with or without attribution to the originator.
But this was a case of a commercial site framing the contents of another
site in such a way as to create the impression that they created the
material.
Simply linking to a site is not the same as setting up your site with
frames which lead to a false impression.
Simple solution, if you are worried don't use frames.