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HUMOR: (fwd) how to argue effectively

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (clineja@MIT.EDU)
Wed Nov 9 15:27:21 1994

From: clineja@MIT.EDU
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 15:22:45 -0500
To: humor@MIT.EDU


Disclaimer: No offence towards Peruvians intended.
            Do not try this while riding a bicycle.

--- Forwarded Message from Sandra Lynn Gramman
<gramman@coral.bucknell.edu>--- 

> I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an
> argument on any topic, against any opponent.  People know this, and
> steer clear of me at parties.  Often, as a sign of their great
> respect, they don't even invite me.  You too can win arguments.
> Simply follow these rules:
> 
>         * Drink Liquor. (JD)
> 
> Suppose you're at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding
> on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about.  If you're
> drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang
> back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot entralls
> your date.  But if you drink several large shots of Jack Daniels,
> you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy.
> You'll be a WEALTH of information.  You'll argue forcefully, offering
> searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture.  People will be
> impressed.  Some may leave the room.
> 
>         * Make things up.
> 
> Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove
> Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that
> YOU are underpaid, and you're damned if you're going to let a bunch
> of Peruvians be better off.  DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are
> underpaid."  Say: "The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars
> adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is
> $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level."
> 
>         NOTE: Always make up exact figures.
> 
> If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up,
> too.  Say: "This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for
> the Buford Commission published May 9, 1982.  Didn't you read it?"
> Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say "You left your
> soiled underwear in my bath house."
> 
>         * Use meaningless but weightly-sounding words and phrases.
> 
>         Memorize this list:
> 
>                 Let me put it this way
>                 In terms of
>                 Vis-a-vis
>                 Per se
>                 As it were
>                 Qua
>                 So to speak
>                 well, any-who
> 
> You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.,"
> "e.g.," and "i.e."  These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you do
> not."
> 
> Here's how to use these words and phrases.  Suppose you want to
> say:
> 
> "Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't
> have enough money."
> 
> You never win arguments talking like that.  But you WILL win if you
> say: "Let me put it this way.  In terms of appetizers vis-a-vis
> Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so
> to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were.
> Q.E.D."
> 
> Only a fool would challenge that statement.
> 
>         * Use snappy and irrelevant comebacks.
> 
> You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevent phrases to fire back
> at  your opponents when they make valid points.  The best are:
> 
>         You're begging the question.
>         You're being defensive.
>         Don't compare apples and oranges.
>         What are your parameters?
> 
> This last one is especially valuable.  Nobody, other than
> mathematicians, has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means.
> 
> Here's how to use your comebacks:
> 
>         You say                 As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873...
>         Your opponents says     Lincoln died in 1865.
>         You say                 You're begging the question.
> 
>                              OR
> 
>         You say                 Liberians, like most Asians...
>         Your opponents says     Liberia is in Africa.
>         You say                 You're being defensive.
> 
> 
>         * Compare your opponent to Adolf Hitler.
> 
> This is your heavy artillery, for when your opponent is obviously
> right and you are spectacularly wrong. Bring Hitler up subtly. Say:
> "That sounds suspiciously like something Adolf Hitler might say" or
> "You certainly do remind me of Adolf Hitler."
> 
> You now know how to out-argue anybody.  Do not try to pull any of this
> on people who generally carry weapons.




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