[9981] in Perl-Users-Digest
Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 3574 Volume: 8
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Fri Aug 28 11:07:22 1998
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 08:01:31 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Fri, 28 Aug 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 3574
Today's topics:
ptkdb Release 1.04, Debugger for Perl with pTk GUI (Andrew E Page)
Re: Random Numbers in Range? <stepherd@gusun.georgetown.edu>
Re: Random Numbers in Range? <jdporter@min.net>
Re: Random Numbers in Range? (Matt Knecht)
round <cattle@hongkong.com>
Re: round (Bob Trieger)
Setting the ENVironment in perl (HP-UX 10.20)? <cbpkxh@arcochem.com>
Re: Setting the ENVironment in perl (HP-UX 10.20)? (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Trouble with getc()... <psmith01@mindspring.com>
Re: Unreadable Scripts? (Nathan V. Patwardhan)
what's wrong with this statement? <@thefree.net>
Re: what's wrong with this statement? <hauk@forumnett.no>
Re: what's wrong with this statement? (Bob Trieger)
Re: what's wrong with this statement? (Mark-Jason Dominus)
WWW::Search 1.021 released <johnh@isi.edu>
Re: Y2K Date Support (I R A Aggie)
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Mar 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: 28 Aug 1998 14:51:55 GMT
From: aep@world.std.com (Andrew E Page)
Subject: ptkdb Release 1.04, Debugger for Perl with pTk GUI
Message-Id: <6s6g6b$28k$1@news.neta.com>
ptkdb A Perl debugger with Graphical User Interface
You can find this utility with at:
<a href="http://world.std.com/~aep/ptkdb">
http://world.std.com/~aep/ptkdb
</a>
http://world.std.com/~aep/ptkdb
Included are links to binaries for perl for Win95/NT with Tk installed, and the
latest distributions for perlTk.
New Version 1.04
RELEASE NOTES:
Major increase in speed for scripts operating under ptkdb. The speed
is now equal to that of the default perl debugger. ptkdb is now
coupled much more tightly to the perl interpreter.
Standard Makefile.PL installation option
Distributions moved to CPAN area.
Text in Code window is now 'Read Only'
Undo has been enabled for the Expression Eval window.
A KNOWN PROBLEM:
You get a "line N in myscript.pl not breakable" alert where you
SWEAR there's an executable line of code.
Example:
00001
00002 my($mysub) ;
00003
00004 $mysub = sub {
00005 print "Hello World\n" ;
00006 } ;
00007
00008 &$mysub ;
00009
If you try to set a breakpoint on line 4 you will get the alert
mentioned above. HOWEVER, if you try to set the breakpoint on line 6,
you will be setting a break on the operation that appears on line
4. That is where the operation is 'syntactically' completed.
An upcoming version of ptkdb(after 1.04) will be tagging 'unbreakable'
lines numbers with:
tagConfigure("unbreakableLine", -overstrike => TRUE)
UPCOMING FEATURES:
The pushbutton controls for breakpoints will be eliminated.
Instead, you will click on the line numbers to set, unset, enable,
disable the breakpoints. The line numbers will change color/format to
reflect breakpoint status.
Configuration for the look and feel of the interface will be
moving out of the environmental variables and into the Tk/X options,
provided of course that I can make this portable for Win32 users.
A script will be provided to convert existing environmental variables
to Tk/X options.
I'm working on a way to provide a breakpoint control panel that
will allow you to see all existing breakpoints and set breakpoints on
defined subroutines. This will most likely take the form of a
Tk::Notebook page.
Increased support for debugging other Tk applications. This has
required to development of a ptkdb.so file. This is proving to be a
somewhat difficult task, but it is in progress. I have code that
filters events from the application when stopped in the debugger, and
from the debugger when the application is running. The difficulty at
present is getting it portable to all systems. In addition I wish to
find a way to make this an 'optional' installation feature. One of
the better aspects of ptkdb(at the moment) is that is written purely
in perl and pTk.
When I get the chance I'm going to be putting up a "Credits" section
on the web page to give credit to people in the community for testing
and other favors.
--
Andrew E. Page (Warrior Poet) | Decision and Effort The Archer and Arrow
Software Engineering Consultant | The difference between what we are
Unix, Mac, C/C++/Java, Perl, NT | and what we want to be.
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:13:24 -0400
From: Dave Stephens <stepherd@gusun.georgetown.edu>
Subject: Re: Random Numbers in Range?
Message-Id: <35E6ACF4.DC05E6F7@gusun.georgetown.edu>
Several people have answered question for me now. The fog has lifted.
Thanks.
==Dave
Dave Stephens wrote:
> Okay,
>
> if
>
> srand;
> $line = int (rand (10) + 1);
> print $line;
>
> gives you a random number from 1 to 10. How do you generate
> random numbers in a range. . . like 97 to 122?
>
> Okay, so I suck at math.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Dave Stephens
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:40:05 -0400
From: John Porter <jdporter@min.net>
Subject: Re: Random Numbers in Range?
Message-Id: <35E6C145.631F@min.net>
Matt Knecht wrote:
>
> $num = rand_range(97 => 122);
I don't understand why people do this.
It forces an unnecessary stringization of a number.
--
John Porter
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:41:48 GMT
From: hex@voicenet.com (Matt Knecht)
Subject: Re: Random Numbers in Range?
Message-Id: <MkzF1.90$3d3.563511@news2.voicenet.com>
John Porter <jdporter@min.net> wrote:
>Matt Knecht wrote:
>>
>> $num = rand_range(97 => 122);
>
>I don't understand why people do this.
>It forces an unnecessary stringization of a number.
Because it's mnemonic.
I blame Perl for giving me too many ways to do something. :)
--
Matt Knecht - <hex@voicenet.com>
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:26:15 +0800
From: Cattle <cattle@hongkong.com>
Subject: round
Message-Id: <35E6AFF6.6CB8170F@hongkong.com>
Sorry I know it's a very silly question, but I'm a very new newbie... :(
Hope you can help me. I want to know is there a function for rounding
numbers? I only know int() which only chop the non-integer part... :(
Cattle ^_^
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:34:20 GMT
From: sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob Trieger)
Subject: Re: round
Message-Id: <6s6br2$dtk$3@ligarius.ultra.net>
[ posted to usenet and courtesy e-mail sent to <cattle@hongkong.com>]
Cattle <cattle@hongkong.com> wrote:
-> Sorry I know it's a very silly question, but I'm a very new newbie... :(
-> Hope you can help me. I want to know is there a function for rounding
-> numbers? I only know int() which only chop the non-integer part... :(
Check out perlfaq4
Does perl have a round function? What about ceil() and floor()? Trig
functions?
HTH
Bob Trieger
sowmaster@juicepigs.com
" Cost a spammer some cash: Call 1-800-400-1972
Ext: 1949 and let the jerk that answers know
that his toll free number was sent as spam. "
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:33:53 GMT
From: "Kevin Hawley" <cbpkxh@arcochem.com>
Subject: Setting the ENVironment in perl (HP-UX 10.20)?
Message-Id: <01bdd278$23593800$2339f9a5@dyyfc1.aca.arcochem.com>
I need to use some environment variables that are defined in a text file.
This file is shared by
mutiple shell scripts, I include the file by using:
. /path/to/env_file
inside my shell scripts. I there a similar method I can use from inside my
perl script to set the environment?
If possible I do not want to "parse" the file and set %ENV, and I would
like to avoid running a shell script, sourcing the file and then calling
the perl script.
TIA
-Kevin
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Date: 28 Aug 1998 10:33:55 -0400
From: mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: Setting the ENVironment in perl (HP-UX 10.20)?
Message-Id: <6s6f4j$7gk$1@monet.op.net>
In article <01bdd278$23593800$2339f9a5@dyyfc1.aca.arcochem.com>,
Kevin Hawley <cbpkxh@arcochem.com> wrote:
>I include the file by using:
>. /path/to/env_file
>I there a similar method I can use from inside my perl script?
>
>If possible I do not want to "parse" the file and set %ENV, and I would
>like to avoid running a shell script, sourcing the file and then calling
>the perl script.
Well, if you don't want to parse the file, and you don't want the
shell to parse the file, then who do you think *is* going to parse the file?
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:14:25 -0400
From: Peter Smith <psmith01@mindspring.com>
Subject: Trouble with getc()...
Message-Id: <35E6BB41.18C57DEF@mindspring.com>
Trying to write a routine
(Windows 95 with 'Perl 5.005_02 built for MSWin32-x86-object')
which just inserts a bunch of commas into a line after certain character
positions.
The problem is getc() keeps returning early:
#Flush STDOUT
$| = 1;
#Initialize char counter
$i = 0;
#Open test ASCII data file
open(IN,"<test.txt") || die("Darn! Couldn't open file!");
#Read all chars in file
while(getc(IN))
{
print "I got a char!\n";
$i++;
}
close(IN);
#Print number of chars read
print "Total chars is $i...\n";
I usually manage to get about 143 out of 444 characters (bytes) in the
file. Any ideas?
Is there a better way - maybe by reading entire lines, then splitting
them (hasn't worked for me either)??
Thanks!
--Peter--
psmith01@mindspring.com
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:31:30 GMT
From: nvp@shore.net (Nathan V. Patwardhan)
Subject: Re: Unreadable Scripts?
Message-Id: <6bzF1.1$EI.1858@shore>
Norman UNsoliciteds (No.unsoiliciteds@dead.end) wrote:
: What and you still smarting from it and want to get your own back?
You silly kid.
*plonk*
--
Nate Patwardhan|root@localhost
"Fortunately, I prefer to believe that we're all really just trapped in a
P.K. Dick book laced with Lovecraft, and this awful Terror Out of Cambridge
shall by the light of day evaporate, leaving nothing but good intentions in
its stead." Tom Christiansen in <6k02ha$hq6$3@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:02:02 +0100
From: <@thefree.net>
Subject: what's wrong with this statement?
Message-Id: <35e6aa39.0@news.thefree.net>
print "<HTML>\n<HEAD>\n<META NAME=\"description\" CONTENT=\"Own your own
English vineyard.\"> \n<META NAME=\"keywords\" CONTENT=\"vineyards, wine,
vines, england, hobbies, pool valley, vesma, gift, present, birthday, West
of England, UK\">\n<TITLE>West of England Vineyards - Article</TITLE>
\n<STYLE TYPE=\"text/css\"><!--\nA:link
{font-size:12px;color:#000000;text-decoration:
none;font-family:Arial;}\nA:visited
{font-size:12px;color:#000000;text-decoration:
none;font-family:Arial;}\nA:hover { font-weight:bold; }\nTextA
font-size:14px;color:#000000;font-family:Arial; }\nP
font-size:14px;color:#000000;font-family:Arial; }\n#LinkHeading\n
{\nfont-size:17px;color:#000000;text-decoration: none;font-family:Arial;
\n }\n#BlockLink\n {\nfont-size:14px;color:#000000;text-decoration:
none;font-family:Arial; \n }\n#Foot\n
{\nfont-size:9px;color:#AEAEAE;text-decoration: none;font-family:Arial;
\n }\n -->\n </STYLE>\n</HEAD>\n<BODY BGCOLOR=\"#ffffff\" TEXT=\"#000000\"
TOPMARGIN=\"0\" LEFTMARGIN=\"0\" MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0>\n<TABLE
BORDER=\"0\" CELLSPACING=\"0\" CELLPADDING=\"0\" WIDTH=\"100%\">\n<TR
VALIGN=\"top\">\n<TD WIDTH=\"140\" BGCOLOR=\"#9FD4B0\">\n<P>\n<TABLE
BORDER=\"0\" CELLPADDING=\"10\">\n<TR VALIGN=\"TOP\">\n<TD>\n<P>\n<P><A
HREF=\"ov.html\" ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>Your Own <BR>Vineyard</B></A><BR>\n<A
HREF=\"ov_gift.html\">A perfect present</A><BR>\n<A HREF=\"ov_yq.html\">Your
questions</A><BR>\n<A HREF=\"ov_cost.html\">What it costs</A><BR>\n<A
HREF=\"ov_print.html\">The small print</A><BR>\n<p><A HREF=\"pv.html\"
ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>Pool Valley</B></A><BR>\n<A
HREF=\"pv_people.html\">The people</A><BR>\n<A HREF=\"pv_place.html\">The
place</A><BR><A HREF=\"pv_diary.html\">Vineyard diary</A><BR>\n<A
HREF=\"pv_rabbit.html\">Rabbit update</A><BR>\n<A
HREF=\"pv_waefre.html\">Waefre</A><BR>\n<P><A HREF=\"fu.html\"
ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>Find Us</B></A><BR>\n<A HREF=\"fu.html\">Where are
we?</A><BR>\n<P><A HREF=\"jff.html\" ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>Just for
<BR>Fun</B></A><BR>\n<A HREF=\"jff_bore.html\">Wine bore quiz</A><BR>
<A HREF=\"jff_capcomp.html\">Caption comp</A><BR><A
HREF=\"jff_trays.html\">Plastic trays</A><BR>\n<P><A HREF=\"ar.html\"
ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>Articles</B></A><BR>
<A HREF=\"ar_tractor.html\">Half a tractor</A><BR><A
HREF=\"ar_smith.html\">Ken Smith</A><BR><A HREF=\"ar_kettle.html\">Singing
kettle</A><BR>
<A HREF=\"ar_brown.html\">Tony Brown</A><BR><A
HREF=\"ar_taste.html\">Triffic tastings</A><BR><P><A HREF=\"gv.html\"
ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>On-Line<BR>Grapevine</B></A><BR><A
HREF=\"gv.html\">Run our magazine</A><BR>
<p><A HREF=\"int.html\" ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>Interactive</B></A><BR><A
HREF=\"int_see.html\">Send a postcard</A><BR><A HREF=\"int_get.html\">Pick
up a postcard</A><BR><A HREF=\"int_friend.html\">Tell a friend!</A><BR><p><A
HREF=\"sun.html\" ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>Sunlight into <BR>Wine</B></A><BR><A
HREF=\"sun_prod.html\">Perfect Production</A><BR><A
HREF=\"sun_sci.html\">Science of Winemaking</A><BR><A
HREF=\"sun_spray.html\">Spraying</A><BR><A HREF=\"sun_young.html\">Young
Vines</A><BR><p><A HREF=\"em.html\" ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>Your Letters &
E-mails</B></A><BR><A HREF=\"em.html\">Read all about it</A><BR><p><A
HREF=\"aa.html\" ID=\"LinkHeading\"><B>Around & About</B></A><BR><A
HREF=\"aa_daf.html\">Daffodils</A><BR><A HREF=\"aa_bob.html\">Local
walks</A><BR><A HREF=\"aa_pubs.html\">Pubs</A><BR>
<A HREF=\"aa_guide.html\">Ruff guide to
Gloucester</A><BR></TD>\n</TR></TABLE></TD><TD BGCOLOR=\"#FFFFFF\"><P>
<TABLE WIDTH=\"100%\" BORDER=\"0\" CELLPADDING=\"0\" CELLSPACING=\"0\"
BGCOLOR=\"#ffffff\"><TR><TD><A HREF=\"index.html\"><IMG SRC=\"top.jpg\"
BORDER=\"0\" WIDTH=\"479\" HEIGHT=\"46\" alt=\"West of England Vineyards
Ltd.\"></A></TD></TR><TR><TD><A HREF=\"index.html\"><IMG SRC=\"home.gif\"
BORDER=\"0\"></A></TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE BORDER=\"0\" CELLPADDING=\"5\"
WIDTH=\"490\"><TR><TD><TABLE BORDER=\"0\" WIDTH=\"100%\" CELLPADDING=\"0\"
CELLSPACING=\"0\"><TR VALIGN=\"top\"><TD><p><br><br><BR>";
Thanks
Daniel vesma
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:17:04 +0200
From: Hauk Langlo <hauk@forumnett.no>
Subject: Re: what's wrong with this statement?
Message-Id: <35E6ADD0.FAC184C@forumnett.no>
He he. Even If I have managed to post pretty optimistic and onnoying posts
myselfe, this tops it all. Expect somme cheeky comments. Anyway, it looks to me
(I have not actually studied your "script" very much) like you are simply trying
to output a bunch of html code. My suggestion would in this case be something
like this:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
print("Content-type: text/html\n\n");
print <<END;
All your HTML here (Between "print <<END;" and "END".)
END
@thefree.net wrote: %\" CELLPADDING=\"0\"[snip]
> CELLSPACING=\"0\"><TR VALIGN=\"top\"><TD><p><br><br><BR>";
>
> Thanks
You're welcome!
Hauk
--
----------------------------------
Hauk Langlo
Hauk@forumnett.no
http://www.forumnett.no/~hauk
(+047) 93438940
----------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:29:45 GMT
From: sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob Trieger)
Subject: Re: what's wrong with this statement?
Message-Id: <6s6bif$dtk$2@ligarius.ultra.net>
<@thefree.net> wrote:
-> print "<HTML>\n<HEAD>\n<META NAME=\"description\" CONTENT=\"Own your own
-> English vineyard.\"> \n<META NAME=\"keywords\" CONTENT=\"vineyards, wine,
-> vines, england, hobbies, pool valley, vesma, gift, present, birthday, West
-> of England, UK\">\n<TITLE>West of England Vineyards - Article</TITLE>
-> \n<STYLE TYPE=\"text/css\"><!--\nA:link
-> {font-size:12px;color:#000000;text-decoration:
...> snip a bazillion more lines of the same <...
-> <TABLE BORDER=\"0\" WIDTH=\"100%\" CELLPADDING=\"0\"
-> CELLSPACING=\"0\"><TR VALIGN=\"top\"><TD><p><br><br><BR>";
Do you mean besides being totally unreadable because of all the
backwhacking going on?
There are atleast 3 other ways that you can do this and not have such a
mess on your hands.
1. Use a `here document' described best in perlfaq4.
2. Use the qq or q quote operators described in perlop.
3. Use multiple print statements, a waste of space but definately more
legible and debuggable.
If you don't stop backwhacking, you'll go blind.
HTH
Bob Trieger
sowmaster@juicepigs.com
" Cost a spammer some cash: Call 1-800-400-1972
Ext: 1949 and let the jerk that answers know
that his toll free number was sent as spam. "
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Date: 28 Aug 1998 10:37:43 -0400
From: mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: what's wrong with this statement?
Message-Id: <6s6fbn$7j7$1@monet.op.net>
It's too long.
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Date: 28 Aug 1998 14:51:29 GMT
From: John Heidemann <johnh@isi.edu>
Subject: WWW::Search 1.021 released
Message-Id: <6s6g5h$24l$1@news.neta.com>
WWW::Search and AutoSearch
==========================
WHAT IS NEW WITH WWW::Search 1.021? (27-Aug-98)
------------------------------------------------
overview: a general release
- new: Windows installation is now supported by
Jim Smyser <jsmyser@bigfoot.com>; please see his web
page <http://pubinfo.phx.primenet.com/www.search/>
for details.
- new: MacPerl should now be supported. Thanks to Chris Nandor
for the problem and a fix.
- bug fix: Infoseek, WebCrawler, Dejanews, HotBot by Martin Thurn
- bug fix: AltaVista approx_count bug found by
Darren Stalder <darren@u.washington.edu>
- bug fix: documentation cleanups from Neil Bowers
Since the recent 1.020 was not widely announced, here's what was new then:
1.020, 12-Aug-98
overview: lots of bug fixes and new back-ends
- bug fix: maximum_to_retrieve now works for very small values.
(Problem identified by Vidyut Luther <vluther@hpctc.org>.)
- new back-ends: ExciteForWebServers, FolioViews, Livelink, MSIndexServer,
Null, Search97
all from Paul Lindner (thanks!)
- bug fix: Gopher, PLweb, SFgate, Simple, Verity from Paul Lindner
- bug fix: Lycos from John Heidemann
- new test suites: PLweb, FolioViews, Null, MSIndexServer, Search97,
SFgate, ExciteForWebServers rom Paul Lindner
- bug fix: HotBot repair from Martin Thurn
Note: WWW::Search may have problems with older libwww's (5.08). If
"make test" dies with an error in RobotUA, upgrade libwww. (Tested
with libwww-5.30.)
WHAT IS WWW::Search?
--------------------
WWW::Search is a collection of Perl modules which provide an API to
WWW search engines. Currently WWW::Search includes back-ends for
variations of AltaVista, Dejanews, Excite, HotBot, Infoseek, Lycos,
Magellan, PLweb, SFgate, Verity, WebCrawler, and Yahoo. We include
two applications built from this library: AutoSearch (an program to
automate tracking of search results over time), and WebSearch, a small
demonstration program to drive the library. Back-ends for other
search engines and more sophisticated clients are currently under
development.
Because WWW::Search depends on parsing the HTML output of web search
engines it will fail of the search engine operators change their
format (an unfortunately frequent occurrence). WWW::Search includes a
test suite for most back-ends which verifies that it's functioning
correctly. As of the day of the release the current back-end
status is:
AltaVista working
Dejanews working
Excite working
ExciteForWebServers working
FolioViews working
Gopher not working? (not in test suite)
HotBot working
Infoseek working
Livelink not working? (not in test suite)
Lycos working
Magellan not working (maybe gone?)
MSIndexServer working
Null working
PLweb working
Search97 working
SFgate working
Simple not working? (not in test suite)
Verity not working (not in test suite)
WebCrawler working?
Yahoo working
Yahoo's test suites are sometimes flakey.
(others are currently under development, see contributors below for details)
WHAT IS AutoSearch?
-------------------
WWW::Search's primary client is AutoSearch. AutoSearch performs a
web-based search and puts the results set in a web page. It
periodically updates this web page, indicating how the search changes
over time. Sample output from WWW::Search can be found at
<http://www.isi.edu/lsam/tools/autosearch/>. Output format is configurable.
See the man page for AutoSearch details, or Demonstration section
below for the quick-start instructions.
REQUIREMENTS
------------
WWW::Search requires Perl5 and libwww-perl.
For information on Perl5, see <http://www.perl.com>.
For libwww-perl, see <http://www.sn.no/libwww-perl/>.
Both are also available from the Comprehensive Perl Archive
Network (CPAN). Visit <http://www.perl.com/CPAN/> to find a CPAN
site near you.
At this time WWW::Search is tested under Perl version 5.004_04.
AVAILABILITY
------------
The latest version of WWW::Search should always be available from
<http://www.isi.edu/lsam/tools/WWW_SEARCH/>. Alpha releases are only
available here (not at CPAN).
WWW::Search is also available as part of CPAN. Visit
<http://www.perl.com/CPAN/> to find a CPAN site near you.
Feedback about WWW::Search is encouraged. If you're using it for a
neat application, please let us know. If you'd like to (or have)
implemented a new back-end for WWW::Search, let us know so we don't
duplicate work.
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:00:47 -0500
From: fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Y2K Date Support
Message-Id: <fl_aggie-2808981000480001@aggie.coaps.fsu.edu>
In article <6s59lr$1kf$1@marina.cinenet.net>, cberry@cinenet.net (Craig
Berry) wrote:
+ Mee (mee@mine.com) wrote:
+ : Let me reiterate:
+ : ANYTHING (including, forgive me the blasphemy, Perl) saying
+ : "the YEAR is 0" when referring to a year which is not "the YEAR 0"
+ : is bound to mess up something sooner or later.
+
+ The year 0 in what calendar?
1. I think our friend 'Mee' is a troll
2. The year 0 is an arbritrary DEFINITION, and can be redefined at will
3. Our friend 'Mee' should take a linear algebra class, and learn about
translations
James
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to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
The Meta-FAQ, an article containing information about the FAQ, is
available by requesting "send perl-users meta-faq". The real FAQ, as it
appeared last in the newsgroup, can be retrieved with the request "send
perl-users FAQ". Due to their sizes, neither the Meta-FAQ nor the FAQ
are included in the digest.
The "mini-FAQ", which is an updated version of the Meta-FAQ, is
available by requesting "send perl-users mini-faq". It appears twice
weekly in the group, but is not distributed in the digest.
For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
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