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Tue Aug 4 20:06:41 1998

Date: Tue, 4 Aug 98 17:02:30 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest           Tue, 4 Aug 1998     Volume: 8 Number: 3349

Today's topics:
    Re: hiding user input (Gary L. Burnore)
    Re: hiding user input (Gary L. Burnore)
    Re: hiding user input (Gary L. Burnore)
    Re: hiding user input (Gary L. Burnore)
    Re: hiding user input (Bob Trieger)
    Re: hiding user input (Gary L. Burnore)
        japanese character searches of flatfile db's tbond@ideapro.com
    Re: luser is spelt L-O-S-E-R was Re: hiding user input (Martien Verbruggen)
    Re: Perl Question... (Abigail)
    Re: Perl Question... <dmckeown@istar.ca>
    Re: Perl Question... (Bob Trieger)
    Re: Perl Question... (brian d foy)
    Re: Perl recipes (Bob Trieger)
    Re: Perl recipes <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
        perl5 bug? <dan@dont.spam.me.please.missionrec.com>
    Re: Processing on email recv <thomas@daimi.aau.dk>
    Re: Q: @argv with PerlW32? <jorgep@mich.com>
        Running a shell from perl? <arranp@datamail.co.nz>
        Single word ouptu from aa array <Msmith@notes.net>
        Trouble with Perl and hashes and dbm files (Jason Bowen)
    Re: Trouble with Perl and hashes and dbm files <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
        Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Mar 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:03:28 GMT
From: gburnore@databasix.com (Gary L. Burnore)
Subject: Re: hiding user input
Message-Id: <35d38511.67599505@nntpd.databasix.com>

On Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:57:37 -0500, in article
<fl_aggie-0408981657380001@aggie.coaps.fsu.edu>, fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R
A Aggie) wrote:

>In article <news-0408981041000001@buzz.hq.alink.net>, news@russo.org
>(Chris Russo) wrote:
>
>+ I hope that everyone realizes that the best thing to do in this situation
>+ is to simply ignore him.
>
>Bingo! He's one of the few people permanently entrenched in my kill file.
>I'm sure he's heartbroken, too.

Oh yes, I cry every night because you have me in your killfile. 
>
>Folks, Brunore simply isn't worth worrying about.

That's right.  Now you're getting it. I'm NOT.  The issue is though.  
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:02:45 GMT
From: gburnore@databasix.com (Gary L. Burnore)
Subject: Re: hiding user input
Message-Id: <35d28369.67175268@nntpd.databasix.com>

On Tue, 04 Aug 1998 10:41:00 -0700, in article
<news-0408981041000001@buzz.hq.alink.net>, news@russo.org (Chris Russo) wrote:

>[ emailed & posted ]
>
>In article <m3n29l13ld.fsf@windlord.Stanford.EDU>, Russ Allbery
><rra@stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>[...]
>>> Hmmmm... apparently you've never contributed anything to perl other than
>>> bullshit, flames, and hard feelings.  I'd say that you are undoubtedly a
>>> troll.
>>
>>I hate it when this argument comes up.
>
>Although I'd agree with you if this were a "reputation thing", I think
>that the slant is more that Mr. Burnore is probably just intentionally
>disrupting this newsgroup with his guerilla tactics.  He actually has
>nothing to do with Perl, and is merely (as my school-teaching wife puts
>it) "acting out for attention".

So then why would I be READING this group?  

>Apparently, he's been very successful and is probably quite pleased with
>himself.

I'm successful at everything I do.

>
>To my chagrin, I'm one of the people who probably got him even more juiced
>by sending him email.

Nope. Well, not _just_ you.  You should know that's been discussed before.
During the RFD for .moderated, it came up quite a bit.

>
>I hope that everyone realizes that the best thing to do in this situation
>is to simply ignore him.

Yep, chris. Ignore me.  Continue to let people like Abigail shit on people and
when someone says something about it, be sure to ignore them.

>Deep breaths, everyone,
>
>Chris Russo

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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:05:27 GMT
From: gburnore@databasix.com (Gary L. Burnore)
Subject: Re: hiding user input
Message-Id: <35d4853d.67643067@nntpd.databasix.com>

On Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:30:43 GMT, in article <35C737B4.308C@min.net>, John
Porter <jdporter@min.net> wrote:

>Gary L. Burnore wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:01:35 GMT, in article <35C641D1.96E@min.net>, John
>> Porter <jdporter@min.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >> >Maybe you should let others speak for themselves; have some faith that
>> >> >those you suppose are actually clueful will say the right thing.
>> >
>> >No comment on this?
>> 
>> I was letting others speak for themselves.
>
>O.k.
>
>
>> Ooh! Cool! We're going to turn this into an "I've been on the net since ..."
>> thread.
>
>No, not at all. I just went and searched for the relevant RFCs.
>The earliest one, as far as I could tell, was 850.

I can't think of any that related directly to what is now known as USENET (Or
usenet or USENet or UsEnEt) that's older than RFC-850.  I can't find the damn
CD either so I can't look it up. (Lost it last year during a move and it
hasn't resurfaced yet)

>I was not active on USENET that long ago.

:)
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:13:26 GMT
From: gburnore@databasix.com (Gary L. Burnore)
Subject: Re: hiding user input
Message-Id: <35d58628.67878076@nntpd.databasix.com>

On Tue, 04 Aug 1998 17:51:31 -0400, in article
<pudge-0408981751310001@192.168.0.3>, pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor) wrote:

>In article <35cd7f37.66100348@nntpd.databasix.com>,
>whatpartofdontemailme@dontyouunderstand wrote:
>
># On Tue, 04 Aug 1998 14:30:27 GMT, in article
># <6q7566$1j5$1@rand.dimensional.com>, Daniel Grisinger
># <dgris@rand.dimensional.com> wrote:
># 
># >[posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and mailed to the cited author]
># 
># Again, why?  You KNOW he's reading the thread. WHY do you email him?  What
># sense does it make?
>
>If making sense were a requirement for posting or e-mailing, I imagine we
>would hear from you a lot less.
>
>Burnore, do you realize that people only persist because you get so mean,
>defensive, abrasive, etc.? 

Oh, so THAT's why Abigail shit on that new poster! I didn't know it was
because I followed up to her afterwards.

>Let it drop, and so will everyone else. 

Oh yeah right.  Why don't you take your own suggestion?  Why doesn't anyone
else?  Because each thinks they're right.

>We like to see you get upset, so we persist. 

More bullshit.  Nice try. That is _indeed_ trolling.  I've done that myself in
some alt groups.  "You can't help yourself but to followup to me. See? I
control you."  Works every time.  If the person doesn't stop posting you
continue to say "See? I control you." If they do stop, you say "See? Reverse
psychology worked on you.".   Old stuff. And it only works on those who aren't
familiar with it already.

> Stop getting upset, we stop. 

Please provide evidence that I'm upset.  You have absolutly NO clue if I'm
upset or not.  I COULD EVEN BE SHOUTING IN A POST and you have no idea if I'm
pissed or sitting here drinking a Pepsi(r> laughing my ass off at your
attempts.

>It may be childish, but c'est la vie.

Yeah, you're childish alright.  So yes, it IS life. Yours.
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:07:56 GMT
From: sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob Trieger)
Subject: Re: hiding user input
Message-Id: <6q80t2$iqj$1@ligarius.ultra.net>

abigail@fnx.com wrote:
-> Scratchie (upsetter@ziplink.net) wrote on MDCCXCIX September MCMXCIII in
-> <URL: news:6q7k3j$l1r@fridge.shore.net>:
-> ++ Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu> wrote:
-> ++ : Over and over?  Perhaps you should check your memory and DejaNews.
-> ++ : Perhaps your threshold for over and over is extremely low.  When I
-> ++ : searched DejaNews for articles in news.groups from gbacon@cs.uah.edu
-> ++ : that contain the words beating and wife, I found one single article,
-> ++ : <6lon2q$ajj$2@info.uah.edu>.  I don't use X-No-Archive, either.
-> ++ 
-> ++ You definitely used it more than once... I recall seeing it two or three
-> ++ times in a single thread.
-> ++ 
-> 
-> 
-> Supply some message IDs, and maybe people will believe you.

I think he is confusing Greg posting it and people quoting Greg on a 
follow-up.

Anyways, this is by far the worst thread on c.l.p.m ever. I just wish I didn't 
killfile Burnmore last week. Who knows what else I've missed.

Bob Trieger
sowmaster@juicepigs.com
" Cost a spammer some cash: Call 1-800-400-1972 
  Ext: 1949 and let the jerk that answers know 
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:45:15 GMT
From: gburnore@databasix.com (Gary L. Burnore)
Subject: Re: hiding user input
Message-Id: <35db9c46.73540758@nntpd.databasix.com>

On 1 Aug 1998 22:43:03 GMT, in article <6q05ln$gf9$10@info.uah.edu>,
gbacon@cs.uah.edu (Greg Bacon) wrote:

>In article <35c91a66.60094455@nntpd.databasix.com>,
>	gburnore@databasix.com (Gary L. Burnore) writes:
>: Using truth and logic is so unfair scratchie. Why do you use such a tactic
>: with Bacon?
>
>Since when is ad hominem valid logic?
>
>Please tell us that you've stopped beating your poor wife.
>

Since you mentioned in _THIS_ post that you see ad hominem as invalid logic,
and in the first post below, that "ad hominem attacks add nothing to your
position", I though you'd like to explain the others that follow.  Not to
mention the several in this thread alone that you've used.


Which is it Greg?  Is ad hominem helping your position here?  (I note that
more than once in this group you use the same suggestion that you don't use
them but you'll  "try using them". 



Subject:      Re: Mungaholic
From:         gbacon@cs.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Date:         1998/06/08
Message-ID:   <6lhm8t$pl$4@info.uah.edu>
Newsgroups:   news.groups 

How many times do I have to tell you that ad hominem attacks add nothing
to your position?

Greg

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Subject:      Re: RFD: comp.lang.perl.moderated moderated
From:         gbacon@cs.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Date:         1998/05/27
Message-ID:   <6ki121$r01$3@info.uah.edu>
Newsgroups:   news.groups 

Do you have no reading comprehension whatsoever?


Subject:      Re: RFD: comp.lang.perl.moderated moderated
From:         gbacon@cs.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Date:         1998/03/13
Message-ID:   <6ebkbg$hom$3@info.uah.edu>
Newsgroups:   news.groups 

Those who explicitly ask that no email be sent invoke images of babies
in need of a pacifier.

- in same message -

As usual, you misunderstand. 


Subject:      Re: RFD: comp.lang.perl.moderated moderated
From:         gbacon@cs.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Date:         1998/03/11
Message-ID:   <6e66nm$lt2$2@info.uah.edu>
Newsgroups:   news.groups 


The reactions caused by Stanley's lack of anything better to do than
sit around and be disagreeable should be treated as an extremely
special can from which nothing can be extrapolated.

Subject:      Re: RFD: comp.lang.perl reorganization
From:         gbacon@cs.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Date:         1997/06/21
Message-ID:   <5oh83t$mjb$3@info.uah.edu>
Newsgroups:   news.groups 

John, perhaps you don't comprehend what you read very well.  

- in same post -

John, go away.  You are a thorn in my side and everyone else who's
seriously interested in discussing the RFD.  You aren't doing anything
but nitpicking, bitching, and moaning.  Instead of piping up at every
problem you perceive (which hasn't been a real problem so far), why
don't you offer possible solutions?  If you don't have anything further
to contribute, then buzz off to the hole you came from.




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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:17:10 GMT
From: tbond@ideapro.com
Subject: japanese character searches of flatfile db's
Message-Id: <6q84pm$fa3$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>

I have a Perl program that allows people to register themselves for access to
a searchable database of downloadable files.  After becoming a registered
user, they can later login anytime for access to our file library, then
search for a file by it's name.  Then they are presented with a simple html
page in their browser that's a hyper link built on the fly by the program
that lets them download the linked file (as long as their "session id" is
alive).  Everything works smoothly in English.	Only registered users can
download the files.

Question is, my client wants to convert this over so that it works for
Japanese users.  They would enter their names in Japanese using their
Japanese keyboards, and the file names in the downloadable database would be
kept in Japanese.  So, here is the issue -- will the registered clients be
able to login and search the database using these non-English characters?  A
search might look like this:

     IeIX*`;b*CJ'o

 ...which is unintelligiable in English, of course.  Unfortunately, I don't
understand Japanese, and have no access to Japanese keyboards.	I know that
Perl uses many "ASCII" type general expressions that may be a problem, and
makes many assumptions about text and characters.  However, if I just want to
do simple comparisons in the database for EXACT MATCHES, shouldn't this be
possible?  I want the CONTENTS of the databases to be irrelevant to the way
the program works for me, if you see what I mean.  Is this possible?

 What problems might I face, and is there anyone who knows of a Perl resource
where these issues are explored?

(Note:  the database will be a standard flatfile database of usernames and
passwords, and the file database will be a simple list of exact file names,
delimited by "|" symbols)

Thanks very much for your help!

-- Tom Bond

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Date: 4 Aug 1998 23:01:59 GMT
From: mgjv@comdyn.com.au (Martien Verbruggen)
Subject: Re: luser is spelt L-O-S-E-R was Re: hiding user input
Message-Id: <6q83t7$be3$1@nswpull.telstra.net>

In article <35C33300.88432BBD@m.block>,
	Spam Block <sp@m.block> writes:

> BTW luser is spelt L-O-S-E-R - I suggest you learn the language you speak and
> stop messing with the digital stuff it's making you anti-social.

luser and loser are not the same thing. Close, but not the same.

For an explanation see http://www.netmeg.net/jargon/terms/l.html#luser

Martien
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Commercial Dynamics Pty. Ltd.           |  who needs Gates?"
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Date: 4 Aug 1998 22:41:06 GMT
From: abigail@fnx.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Perl Question...
Message-Id: <6q82m2$6k6$3@client3.news.psi.net>

Dave Mckeown (dmckeown@istar.ca) wrote on MDCCXCIX September MCMXCIII in
<URL: news:35C78496.F1D7FDF2@istar.ca>:
++ Is it possible to have a script automaticlly execute at a certian time
++ say 2:00 am without any outside intervention?

Yes, but that's not a Perl question.


man cron



Abigail
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:47:25 GMT
From: Dave Mckeown <dmckeown@istar.ca>
Subject: Re: Perl Question...
Message-Id: <35C79084.CB74EB32@istar.ca>

Abigail wrote:

> Dave Mckeown (dmckeown@istar.ca) wrote on MDCCXCIX September MCMXCIII
> in
> <URL: news:35C78496.F1D7FDF2@istar.ca>:
> ++ Is it possible to have a script automaticlly execute at a certian
> time
> ++ say 2:00 am without any outside intervention?
>
> Yes, but that's not a Perl question.

Sorry I'm pretty new to perl


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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:39:42 GMT
From: sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob Trieger)
Subject: Re: Perl Question...
Message-Id: <6q82om$iqj$3@ligarius.ultra.net>

[ posted and mailed ]

Dave Mckeown <dmckeown@istar.ca> wrote:
-> Is it possible to have a script automaticlly execute at a certian time
-> say 2:00 am without any outside intervention? I would like to do it
-> without and ssi but have the script aware of what time it is and them at
-> the certian time execute. It would help me for a script I'm working on
-> thanks...
-> 

This has nothing to do with perl. It depends on your operating system and the 
scheduling packages installed. IE cron, at, etc........

Bob Trieger
sowmaster@juicepigs.com
" Cost a spammer some cash: Call 1-800-400-1972 
  Ext: 1949 and let the jerk that answers know 
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 18:57:49 -0400
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Perl Question...
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R0408981857490001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker

In article <35C78496.F1D7FDF2@istar.ca>, Dave Mckeown <dmckeown@istar.ca> posted:

>Is it possible to have a script automaticlly execute at a certian time
>say 2:00 am without any outside intervention?

sounds like a cron job to me.  or does that count as "outside"?

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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:18:43 GMT
From: sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob Trieger)
Subject: Re: Perl recipes
Message-Id: <6q81hb$iqj$2@ligarius.ultra.net>

[ posted and mailed ]

bem@news.cmc.net (brian moore) wrote:
-> On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 22:51:38 -0400, 
->  Steve Linberg <linberg@literacy.upenn.edu> wrote:
-> > This is very nice!  Is the book out yet?
-> 
-> And what's on the cover?  Grumble.... time to fire up Lynx and
-> see which animal to ask for.
-> 

I believe it is a moose. 

Bob Trieger
sowmaster@juicepigs.com
" Cost a spammer some cash: Call 1-800-400-1972 
  Ext: 1949 and let the jerk that answers know 
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Date: 4 Aug 1998 22:51:02 GMT
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Perl recipes
Message-Id: <6q838m$m1o$1@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>

 [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]

In comp.lang.perl.misc, sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob Trieger) writes:
:I believe it is a moose. 

Actually, it's a Rocky Mountain Bighorn ram.

    http://perl.oreilly.com/cookbook/

--tom
-- 
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:39:19 GMT
From: "Mission A/V" <dan@dont.spam.me.please.missionrec.com>
Subject: perl5 bug?
Message-Id: <r4Mx1.141$ke.384042@news1.atl.bellsouth.net>


    I posted earlier about a problem I was having with the following
routine.

#While Loop starts here

                        ($name,$value) = split(/=/,$inline);
                        local (*GLOB) = $name;
                        $GLOB = $value;

#While Loop ends here

Modification of a read-only value attempted at /pathdeleted/ line 1284.

the funny thing is that it works 31 times before it somehow becomes
read-only. I can tell this by adding a print statement



                        ($name,$value) = split(/=/,$inline);
                        local (*GLOB) = $name;
                        print "$name,$value";
                        $GLOB = $value;


    I don't know where to go with this one, but a cheap hack like writing
making $GLOB writable each loop is ok at this point...

    Thanks
    Daniel





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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 00:35:51 +0200
From: Thomas Jespersen <thomas@daimi.aau.dk>
Subject: Re: Processing on email recv
Message-Id: <35C78CC7.54BAEF8A@daimi.aau.dk>

Ky Nguyen wrote:

> PS: I realize this is not a perl question but I believe that many
> adminstrators
> must deal with this issue using perl as backend tool. If I am asking the
> wrong
> group, pls point out where is the right group.

Go to www.dejanews.com. Click on 'Interest Finder'. Now you just have to
find the right keywords and it will find the right newsgroups for your
question.


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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 18:46:42 -0400
From: idnoheq <jorgep@mich.com>
To: Uwe Segelbacher <uwe.segelbacher@desy.de>
Subject: Re: Q: @argv with PerlW32?
Message-Id: <35C78F51.46F1191A@mich.com>

Hi.

Care to show an example or two?  I have used AS build 316, the GS core
build (5.00402), and the new AP 5.005 w/o problems with args.

Uwe Segelbacher wrote:

> Hi all
>
> propably this question has been answered a lot of times, but
> unfortunately I didn't find any real documentation or faqs on PerlW32.
>
> PerlW32 seams not to read command line arguments in @argv. How do I get
> these arguments?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Uwe
>
> Dr. Uwe Segelbacher
> Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron DESY





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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 08:22:14 +1200
From: Arran Price <arranp@datamail.co.nz>
Subject: Running a shell from perl?
Message-Id: <35C76D76.1A0F@datamail.co.nz>

I have a menu that runs as soon as the user logs in,
One of the options on this menu should allow the user to get to the
command shell.  When the user has finished exit should return to the
menu.  This works in ksh, but in perl I try to run the shell and it just
returns to my menu straight away.
should I be using 
`shell`;
system(shell);

any ideas what Im doing wrong?


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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:41:48 GMT
From: "MSmith" <Msmith@notes.net>
Subject: Single word ouptu from aa array
Message-Id: <0%Mx1.338$ML4.1093024@news4.mia.bellsouth.net>

Im new to Perl. I'M trying to place a file, a txt file, into an array..then
print out the first character of the first line..and then the second
character....etc..but IM having a bit of trouble.  IM only able to print out
a line at a time:

open (INFILE, "c:\\csv\\cpu_in\\test.txt");
@csvfiles = <INFILE>;
close (INFILE);
print @csvfiles[0];





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Date: 4 Aug 1998 22:42:35 GMT
From: bowenjm@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Jason Bowen)
Subject: Trouble with Perl and hashes and dbm files
Message-Id: <6q82or$nv0@peabody.colorado.edu>

I have written a script for work that parsed a pop3 log file and took down
the usernames and addresses of people connecting from places outside of
our domain.  The first version took the username as the key and the values
in the hash table were seperated by a colon.  This solution would
typically give an error like this

ndbm store returned -1, errno 28, key "vechbany" at ./popper.pl line 11,
<LOG> chunk 2949

I don't know enough about dbm files to know what is going on so I tried a
different solution which involved a hash of arrays.  This seemed to work
fine but for some reason the hash that is stored on the disk only seems to
have the addresses to the arrays and not the actual value themselves.  For
instance I have the following code at the end of the program to print out
the keys and their values:

foreach $person (keys %poplist){
        print "$person: @{$poplist{$person}}\n";

This will print out the key and all array values but all that will show up
on this disk is entries like this:

gilmanjARRAY(0xabe0c)

Of course this does no good after that array disappears from memory.  Any
ideas?  Does anybody know how to get the size of array that is part of a
hash too?   I tried the normal methods which don't seem to work and just
had to manually use index 0 to store the array size for processing.

Jason


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Date: 4 Aug 1998 23:36:03 GMT
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Trouble with Perl and hashes and dbm files
Message-Id: <6q85t3$m1o$3@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>

 [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]

In comp.lang.perl.misc, 
    bowenjm@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Jason Bowen) writes:
:I don't know enough about dbm files to know what is going on so I tried a
:different solution which involved a hash of arrays.  This seemed to work
:fine but for some reason the hash that is stored on the disk only seems to
:have the addresses to the arrays and not the actual value themselves.  

You mean like the question ``How can I store a multidimensional array
in a DBM file?'' found in perlfaq4?

--tom
-- 
    I dunno, I dream in Perl sometimes...
                    --Larry Wall in  <8538@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>


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