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Perl-Users Digest Wed, 15 Jul 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 3171
Today's topics:
Re: CRYPT on win32 (Larry Rosler)
Re: efficiency: print<<"xxx" vs. print (Michael J Gebis)
Re: Extracting URLs from a file (Ronald J Kimball)
Re: Help with tutorial please... (Ronald J Kimball)
Re: How to tell if a scalar is a number? <dean@mail.biol.sc.edu>
Re: input length?? (brian d foy)
Re: More musing on -w (Larry Rosler)
NT Performance Data Log... parsing and graphing. <steveneu@visi.com>
pattern matching with an = Juli@my-dejanews.com
Re: pattern matching with an = (Larry Rosler)
Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page (Ronald J Kimball)
Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page (Ronald J Kimball)
Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page <zenin@bawdycaste.org>
Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page <zenin@bawdycaste.org>
Re: qn on string substitution (Tad McClellan)
Re: Regexp to handle \\n\n\n (brian d foy)
Re: Regexp to handle \\n\n\n (Ronald J Kimball)
Re: What is awk better at than perl? (Larry quote) (Michael J Gebis)
Re: What is awk better at than perl? (Larry quote) <scribble@pobox.com>
Re: Working with Frame <garyg@gator.net>
Re: Working with Frame <garyg@gator.net>
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:07:15 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: CRYPT on win32
Message-Id: <MPG.1016f220c4186489989719@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[This followup was posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]
In article <Hjbr1.72$tb5.1503037@nntp1.nac.net> on Wed, 15 Jul 1998
23:55:19 GMT, Brian Moffatt <mudd97@nac.net> says...
> Why do I get a "paranoia" message when trying to use the crypt function
Because the folks who implemented the version of perl you are using were
paranoid.
I presume you are using a Win32 system. The Perl port that comes with
the MKS Toolkit includes crypt(), so that is the perl that I use. I'm
not sure about any other ports.
--
Larry Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: 16 Jul 1998 01:01:44 GMT
From: gebis@albrecht.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael J Gebis)
Subject: Re: efficiency: print<<"xxx" vs. print
Message-Id: <6ojjdo$6g5@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
gorilla@elaine.drink.com (Alan Barclay) writes:
}In article <wku34kp087.fsf@turangalila.harmonixmusic.com>,
}Dan Schmidt <dfan@harmonixmusic.com> wrote:
}>rjking@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Rachel J King) writes:
}>I didn't see any difference when I tried it.
}>use Benchmark;
}There are two sorts of efficiency, 'use Benchmark;' can only measure
}the easy one, how long does the program take to run. The second sort,
}how long does the program take to develop and maintain, is much harder
}to benchmark, but my personal feeling is that a here document is going
}to be much easier to maintain.
"We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the
time: premature optimization is the root of all evil."
- Donald Knuth
"More computing sins are committed in the name of efficiency
(without necessarily achieving it) than for any other
single reason - including blind stupidity."
- W.A. Wulf
Rules of Optimization:
Rule 1: Don't do it.
Rule 2 (for experts only): Don't do it yet.
- M.A. Jackson
--
Mike Gebis gebis@ecn.purdue.edu mgebis@eternal.net
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:11:03 -0400
From: rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu (Ronald J Kimball)
Subject: Re: Extracting URLs from a file
Message-Id: <1dc8569.yqt8so157g9vkN@bay1-364.quincy.ziplink.net>
Craig Berry <cberry@cinenet.net> wrote:
> @xurls = $tet =~ m!"(http://.*?)"!g
>
> This is prone to a few false positives and negatives (involving such
> things as commented-out code), but it's good as far as it goes, and has
> the advantage of simplicity.
@urls = $text =~ m!"(http://[^"]*)"!g
is simpler and much more efficient.
Don't use non-greedy matching when you don't have to.
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"It's funny 'cause it's true ... and vice versa."
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:11:04 -0400
From: rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu (Ronald J Kimball)
Subject: Re: Help with tutorial please...
Message-Id: <1dc861z.1k77jqm1aoz8iwN@bay1-364.quincy.ziplink.net>
Rick Delaney <rick.delaney@shaw.wave.ca> wrote:
> Jonah Graham wrote:
> >
> >
> > $, = "#"; # This sets the field separator to a pound.
> > # That way a # will be printed between each element
> > # of the array.
> > print "", @lines;
> >
> > I believe your problem may have been that (I think) the webpage
> > wrongly suggests using a $" instead of $,.
> >
>
> No, it suggests the variable that gives the prettier (and shorter) print
> statement:
>
> $" = '#';
> print "#@lines";
>
> {print "", @lines} reminds me of {print $scalar, "\n"}.
It appears that the $" solution is also faster.
use Benchmark;
@lines = ('a' x 40) x 10;
$" = $, = "\n";
open STDOUT, ">foo" or die "Can't open: $!\n";
# Because I don't want thousands of lines of aaaaaaaaaaaaa
# on the terminal. :-)
timethese(10000, {
quote => sub { print "@lines\n" },
comma => sub { print @lines, "" },
});
__END__
Benchmark: timing 10000 iterations of
comma, quote
...
comma: 10 secs (10.15 usr 0.00 sys = 10.15 cpu)
quote: 4 secs ( 3.55 usr 0.00 sys = 3.55 cpu)
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"It's funny 'cause it's true ... and vice versa."
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Date: 15 Jul 1998 21:04:22 -0400
From: Dean Pentcheff <dean@mail.biol.sc.edu>
Subject: Re: How to tell if a scalar is a number?
Message-Id: <m390lubo89.fsf@mail.biol.sc.edu>
Paul Tomko <tomko@xnet.com> writes:
> I admit to being a former C programmer. I am trying to determine the
> easiest way to determine if a scalar contains all digits, or if it
> compares some non-digit characters ; without of course, printing it out
> and looking at it.
For this and many other questions, see the FAQ: http://www.perl.com
-Dean
--
N. Dean Pentcheff <pentcheff@acm.org>
Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-7068)
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:58:58 -0400
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: input length??
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R1507981658580001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker
In article <35AD0846.D8D4B1A2@lincolninvestment.com>, Kerrie Etter <ketter@lincolninvestment.com> posted:
>I have a form (basically builds a resume) one field asks for a
>description of current responsibilities.....
>
>The input from the form (which is e-mailed to our recruiter) could be up
>
>to 100 words - how do I "wrap" it so that it doesn't just run off the
>page...
see the Text::* modules, such as Text::Wrap.
you can play with an example at
<URL:http://computerdog.com/Cgi/demo/wrap.html>.
good luck :)
--
brian d foy <comdog@computerdog.com>
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:28:08 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: More musing on -w
Message-Id: <MPG.1016f706a27c5fc098971a@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[This followup was posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]
In article <900537583.606828@elaine.drink.com> on 15 Jul 1998 21:19:55
GMT, Alan Barclay <gorilla@elaine.drink.com> says...
...
> Right now, 1 & 2 are enabled by -w, and all can be disabled by defining
> an appropriate __WARN__ handler, but (and correct me if I'm wrong) there
> is no way for the handler to know the source of the error.
...
> A second variable could be set to indicate the source of the warning,
> which could be used in a custom __WARN__ function.
The string passed to the __WARN__ handler includes by default the file
name and line number of the warn() statement. These are also available
as the __FILE__ and __LINE__ special tokens. This is documented in
`perldoc -f die`.
In addition, the __WARN__ handler can unravel and report the subroutine
call stack using the caller() function. `perldoc -f caller`.
That would seem to pin down the source of the error pretty completely.
Please consider yourself corrected. :-)
--
Larry Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:39:50 GMT
From: "Steve" <steveneu@visi.com>
Subject: NT Performance Data Log... parsing and graphing.
Message-Id: <GRcr1.231$AI4.1120933@ptah.visi.com>
I'm gathering data using the NT ResKit utility..... performance Data Log and
writing a script to parse it, summarize it and graph the output using
gifgraph.pm. Has anybody out there done this already? (not trying to be a
leech, just trying to save time).
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:13:16 GMT
From: Juli@my-dejanews.com
Subject: pattern matching with an =
Message-Id: <6ojk3c$m43$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Can you do pattern matching with an equal sign? (=)
Like $found =~ /=/;
I know you can do pattern matching with characters, abc...
and numbers 123, and things such as $, but I couldn't find anything
about matching = . Any help is appreciated.
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:57:45 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: pattern matching with an =
Message-Id: <MPG.1016fdf8393797af98971b@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[This followup was posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]
In article <6ojk3c$m43$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> on Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:13:16
GMT, Juli@my-dejanews.com <Juli@my-dejanews.com> says...
> Can you do pattern matching with an equal sign? (=)
> Like $found =~ /=/;
> I know you can do pattern matching with characters, abc...
> and numbers 123, and things such as $, but I couldn't find anything
> about matching = . Any help is appreciated.
Try it and see! If all else fails, `perldoc perlre`.
<ASBESTOS SUIT ON>
Computer "science" is an experimental "science".
--
Larry Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:11:10 -0400
From: rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu (Ronald J Kimball)
Subject: Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page
Message-Id: <1dc872y.fmqx1z1q3oeu9N@bay1-364.quincy.ziplink.net>
Zenin <zenin@bawdycaste.org> wrote:
> The syntax @{ expression } becomes:
> @
> {
> expression
> }
> Funky yes, but I'm not even sure that would compile... :-)
Why wouldn't it?
~> perl -c
@
{
expression
}
__END__
- syntax OK
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"It's funny 'cause it's true ... and vice versa."
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:11:06 -0400
From: rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu (Ronald J Kimball)
Subject: Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page
Message-Id: <1dc86sk.htpwa9oxapogN@bay1-364.quincy.ziplink.net>
Alan Barclay <gorilla@elaine.drink.com> wrote:
> Of course, the meaning of 'deprecated' isn't very relevent in this
> discussion, as using ' isn't deprecated, according to the quote given
> above. It says that :: is the preferred seperator in perl5, a very
> different meaning.
Hmm, which quote are you referring to? The one posted by Ilya, from
perldata?
Values are usually referred to by name (or through a named
reference). The first character of the name tells you to what
sort of data structure it refers. The rest of the name tells
you the particular value to which it refers. Most often, it
consists of a single identifier, that is, a string beginning
with a letter or underscore, and containing letters,
underscores, and digits. In some cases, it may be a chain of
identifiers, separated by :: (or by ', but that's deprecated)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As far as I can tell, that says using ' is deprecated.
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"It's funny 'cause it's true ... and vice versa."
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Date: 16 Jul 1998 01:22:13 GMT
From: Zenin <zenin@bawdycaste.org>
Subject: Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page
Message-Id: <900552657.574136@thrush.omix.com>
M.J.T. Guy <mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
: It's obviously trying to tell you that your code is being rendered
: difficult to read by unnecessary clutter. :-)
: if (@$foo != @$bar) {
Yes, quite true, and if I wasn't in the environment I am I use
such syntax. However, my fellow engineers are mostly versed
in perl4 (blagh, I know, I know, and I'm getting them up to
speed as fast as I can, but...) and are often required to maintain
my code when I'm busy on something else. In such instances, I
must opt for being very explicit when I do "funky Perl 5 stuff".
I do of course, have my Black Magic blocks that I mark with a
comment to the effect that having a pet Blue Camel near by would
be well advised. :-)
--
-Zenin (zenin@archive.rhps.org) From The Blue Camel we learn:
BSD: A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at UC
Berkeley or thereabouts. Similar in many ways to the prescription-only
medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least,
more fun.) The full chemical name is "Berkeley Standard Distribution".
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Date: 16 Jul 1998 01:32:15 GMT
From: Zenin <zenin@bawdycaste.org>
Subject: Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page
Message-Id: <900553259.492139@thrush.omix.com>
John Porter <jdporter@min.net> wrote:
: I've been burned (well, rubbed really hard the wrong way) too many
: times, by having a file someone (maybe me) created with a width >80, and
: having to view it in a window of width=80. First thing I do is go and
: reformat it so it fits in 80. What a waste of energy.
As you yourself mentioned, any decent editor can also use "soft
tabs" to avoid hard tabs completely.
Just as correct is that any decent editor can easily handle >80
column text in an 80 column window. Even in the very rare case I
use 80 column windows (telnet from a Windoze box...) my editor has
no problem with easy screen shifts to avoid the brain dead line
wrapping vi et al do by default. In such cases, I still use >80
columns. Many statements just read easier if they aren't choked
to a ridiculous and extremely outdated <80 column limit.
I hate to say it, but even Windoze programmers learned a long,
long time ago that <80 restrictions suck hard. This is one of
the few times that many Unix programmers have it dead wrong.
--
-Zenin (zenin@archive.rhps.org) From The Blue Camel we learn:
BSD: A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at UC
Berkeley or thereabouts. Similar in many ways to the prescription-only
medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least,
more fun.) The full chemical name is "Berkeley Standard Distribution".
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:24:15 -0500
From: tadmc@flash.net (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: qn on string substitution
Message-Id: <vnkjo6.cg.ln@localhost>
vibhu@fjst.com wrote:
: $n2 =~ s/\[/\\[/g; # 5
: $sign =~ s/$n2/DONE/; # 6
: How can I make the substitution work without having
: to do line 5?
$sign =~ s/\Q$n2/DONE/;
--
Tad McClellan SGML Consulting
tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:55:52 -0400
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Regexp to handle \\n\n\n
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R1507981655520001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker
In article <6oj28i$kob$1@turing.mathworks.com>, Bill_York <Bill_York@MathWorks.com> posted:
>I'm trying to cobble some regexp to turn:
>
>"\\n\n\n"
>
>into
>
>"\\n
>
>"
>$value = '\\\\n\n\n';
>print "'$value'\n";
>$value =~ s/([^\\?])\\n/$1\n/g;
>print "'$value'\n";
>
>but this leaves an extry "\n" in the output.
the problem is that the regex is looking for the character to the
left of what you want to replace. this is fine until the first
match since the regex engine just steps along the string.
after the first match, the engine is immediately finds
'\n', and there is no character to match the negated character
class. we can, during a global match, influence the position
of the match with pos(). if we tell the regex engine to move
back one character after the match:
while( $value =~ s/ ([^\\]) \\ n/$1\n/xg ) { pos($value)-- };
the character for preceding the next two can be compared to the
negated character class. in simpler terms, the regex takes one
step backwards before trying the next match.
good luck :)
--
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this post has a lot of 'character'
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:11:14 -0400
From: rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu (Ronald J Kimball)
Subject: Re: Regexp to handle \\n\n\n
Message-Id: <1dc87cg.1i9rgd21knyu5lN@bay1-364.quincy.ziplink.net>
Bill_York <Bill_York@MathWorks.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to cobble some regexp to turn:
>
> "\\n\n\n"
>
> into
>
> "\\n
>
> "
s/(\\\\)|\\n/$1 or "\n"/ge;
> (note the two newlines)
>
> this is what I have right now:
>
> $value = '\\\\n\n\n';
> print "'$value'\n";
> $value =~ s/([^\\?])\\n/$1\n/g;
Why do you have a ? in your character class? Do you have to deal with
question marks in the target string?
> print "'$value'\n";
>
> but this leaves an extry "\n" in the output.
That's because /g starts each match where the last one left off. The
first time, the regex matches 'n\n'. This leaves only '\n' at the end
of the string, so the regex can't match a second time.
(If the target string were '\\\\n\n\n\n\n\n\n', the substitution would
replace every other \n, for the same reason.)
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"It's funny 'cause it's true ... and vice versa."
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Date: 16 Jul 1998 01:08:21 GMT
From: gebis@albrecht.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael J Gebis)
Subject: Re: What is awk better at than perl? (Larry quote)
Message-Id: <6ojjq5$6hf@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
opus@magibox.net (Brock Sides) writes:
}I've seen the quote from Larry Wall (at
}http://www.perl.org/lwall-quotes.txt) "Hey, I had to let awk be better at
}*something*... :-)"
}So what is it that awk is (or was) better at?
It's less effort to write awk and takes exactly 25% less space.
Then again, sh takes exactly 33% less space than awk.
P.S. Think about it.
--
Mike Gebis gebis@ecn.purdue.edu mgebis@eternal.net
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Date: 15 Jul 1998 20:27:05 -0500
From: Tushar Samant <scribble@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: What is awk better at than perl? (Larry quote)
Message-Id: <6ojkt9$gmv@tekka.wwa.com>
opus@magibox.net writes:
>I've seen the quote from Larry Wall (at
>http://www.perl.org/lwall-quotes.txt) "Hey, I had to let awk be better at
>*something*... :-)"
>
>So what is it that awk is (or was) better at?
"This should be in the documentation which ships with Perl. If you
can't find the docs, change your ISP and inform all 600 pertinent
people of it."
Or actually: the answer is in perlvar(1), and have fun finding out ...
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:16:27 GMT
From: "Gary M. Greenberg" <garyg@gator.net>
Subject: Re: Working with Frame
Message-Id: <35AD5359.278616CC@gator.net>
brian d foy wrote:
>
> In article <35ACAA91.112C061@uea.ac.uk>, Rattasit Sukhahuta <R.Sukhahuta@uea.ac.uk> posted:
>
> >Is there a perl command to send an output to different frame? The
> >problem that I have is when I use the following command,
>
> the answer can *still* be found in the CGI Meta FAQ no matter
> how many times it is asked ;)
>
> --
> brian d foy <comdog@computerdog.com>
> CGI Meta FAQ <URL:http://computerdog.com/CGI_MetaFAQ.html>
> Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN) <URL:http://www.perl.com>
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Not only that but
Edward R. Hamilton
Falls Village, CT 06031-5000
has a HUGE selection of discounted books, such as:
HTML & CGI Unleashed w/ CD-ROM for $4.95
Buy and read; learn.
Good luck,
gary -=- The C Programmers' Reference -=-
http://www.gator.net/~garyg/C/c.html
-=- Avenue Programmers' Classes' Requests -=-
http://www.gator.net/~garyg/aveclass.htm
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:17:04 GMT
From: "Gary M. Greenberg" <garyg@gator.net>
Subject: Re: Working with Frame
Message-Id: <35AD5378.214EB869@gator.net>
brian d foy wrote:
>
> In article <35ACAA91.112C061@uea.ac.uk>, Rattasit Sukhahuta <R.Sukhahuta@uea.ac.uk> posted:
>
> >Is there a perl command to send an output to different frame? The
> >problem that I have is when I use the following command,
>
> the answer can *still* be found in the CGI Meta FAQ no matter
> how many times it is asked ;)
>
> --
> brian d foy <comdog@computerdog.com>
> CGI Meta FAQ <URL:http://computerdog.com/CGI_MetaFAQ.html>
> Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN) <URL:http://www.perl.com>
> Perl Mongers Travel Deals! <URL:http://www.pm.org/travel.html>
Not only that but
Edward R. Hamilton
Falls Village, CT 06031-5000
has a HUGE selection of discounted books, such as:
HTML & CGI Unleashed w/ CD-ROM for $4.95
Buy and read; learn.
Good luck,
gary -=- The C Programmers' Reference -=-
http://www.gator.net/~garyg/C/c.html
-=- Avenue Programmers' Reference -=-
http://www.gator.net/~garyg/aveclass.htm
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