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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 3141 Volume: 8
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Mon Jul 13 13:07:39 1998
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 98 10:03:04 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 13 Jul 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 3141
Today's topics:
Re: sending mail from within perl <newsonly@usa.net>
Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
string / [] <Adam.K@idnet.de>
Re: Urgent!! Need Programmer for perm in Malibu, Ca (Andy Lester)
Re: What's the substitute for #! /usr/bin/perl in Win32 scott@softbase.com
Re: Why is Dave operating here? (was Re: REPOST: Re: ) (John Stanley)
Re: Why is Dave operating here? (was Re: REPOST: Re: ) (The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee)
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Mar 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:32:55 GMT
From: "Bob L." <newsonly@usa.net>
Subject: Re: sending mail from within perl
Message-Id: <HMpq1.553$8F3.1785828@proxye1.nycap.rr.com>
Hi:
I tried to use it but I get "Document Contains No Data". I looked in the
Perl directory and found other Net: types but not SMTP. Do I have to get
the SMTP module? I was told it would be part of Perl. I'm using the latest
version from activestate.
Thanks for your help.
Bob
Mr. Ozette Brown <ozette@imaginative-creations.com> wrote in message
35A93858.7A4C0BCF@imaginative-creations.com...
>Hello,
>
>I've used Net::Smtp under Win95 and it works just fine.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Ozette
>
>Jim Babbington wrote:
>
>> try Net::smtp. I use it under NT, never tried it under 95.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Jim
>
>
>
>--
>Mr. Ozette J. Brown <President>
>Imaginative Creations <webmaster@imaginative-creations.com>
>A Website Development and Consulting Company.
>http://www.imaginative-creations.com
>
>
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Date: 13 Jul 1998 16:09:30 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <6odbfq$bve$3@info.uah.edu>
Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 06 Jul 1998 15:55:51 GMT and ending at
13 Jul 1998 06:48:17 GMT.
Notes
=====
- A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
- The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
in determining the "real" e-mail address and name.
- Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
volume to the total body volume.
- Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
- Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
- Copyright (c) 1998 Greg Bacon. All Rights Reserved.
Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
alteration is not permitted. Redistribution and/or use for any
commercial purpose is prohibited.
Excluded Posters
================
perlfaq-suggestions\@mox\.perl\.com
Totals
======
Posters: 584
Articles: 1672 (742 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 482
Volume generated: 2884.8 kb
- headers: 1198.6 kb (23,227 lines)
- bodies: 1547.5 kb (47,108 lines)
- original: 1068.0 kb (34,724 lines)
- signatures: 137.1 kb (2,676 lines)
Original Content Rating: 0.690
Averages
========
Posts per poster: 2.9
median: 1.0 post
mode: 1 post - 364 posters
s: 6.4 posts
Posts per thread: 3.5
median: 2.0 posts
mode: 1 post - 165 threads
s: 6.6 posts
Message size: 1766.8 bytes
- header: 734.0 bytes (13.9 lines)
- body: 947.8 bytes (28.2 lines)
- original: 654.1 bytes (20.8 lines)
- signature: 84.0 bytes (1.6 lines)
Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------
72 129.5 ( 52.6/ 58.6/ 34.5) comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
58 91.9 ( 46.8/ 39.2/ 29.7) tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
51 96.5 ( 43.5/ 45.7/ 20.9) abigail@fnx.com
51 88.1 ( 35.8/ 47.3/ 27.8) lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
37 71.0 ( 26.9/ 36.5/ 25.0) mgjv@comdyn.com.au (Martien Verbruggen)
35 54.1 ( 23.1/ 30.9/ 21.8) cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
32 49.9 ( 23.3/ 21.8/ 15.1) "F.Quednau" <quednauf@nortel.co.uk>
29 49.4 ( 23.9/ 18.1/ 9.2) rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu (Ronald J Kimball)
24 37.4 ( 16.2/ 21.2/ 10.8) Gellyfish@btinternet.com (Jonathan Stowe)
24 45.1 ( 15.1/ 30.0/ 19.1) tadmc@flash.net (Tad McClellan)
These posters accounted for 24.7% of all articles.
Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------
129.5 ( 52.6/ 58.6/ 34.5) 72 comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
96.5 ( 43.5/ 45.7/ 20.9) 51 abigail@fnx.com
91.9 ( 46.8/ 39.2/ 29.7) 58 tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
88.1 ( 35.8/ 47.3/ 27.8) 51 lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
71.0 ( 26.9/ 36.5/ 25.0) 37 mgjv@comdyn.com.au (Martien Verbruggen)
54.1 ( 23.1/ 30.9/ 21.8) 35 cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
49.9 ( 23.3/ 21.8/ 15.1) 32 "F.Quednau" <quednauf@nortel.co.uk>
49.4 ( 23.9/ 18.1/ 9.2) 29 rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu (Ronald J Kimball)
49.0 ( 16.6/ 27.7/ 15.6) 19 Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com>
47.3 ( 17.8/ 20.9/ 13.0) 23 Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
These posters accounted for 25.2% of the total volume.
Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.992 ( 14.1 / 14.2) 12 tye@fohnix.metronet.com (Tye McQueen)
0.989 ( 15.0 / 15.2) 19 fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
0.986 ( 4.5 / 4.6) 6 dwiesel@my-dejanews.com
0.973 ( 9.3 / 9.5) 10 gebis@albrecht.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael J Gebis)
0.953 ( 1.5 / 1.5) 7 "Guillermo Garcis" <ggarces@arrakis.es>
0.953 ( 15.5 / 16.3) 5 Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
0.950 ( 2.4 / 2.6) 5 groenvel@cse.psu.edu (John D Groenveld)
0.895 ( 3.0 / 3.3) 5 jevon@my-dejanews.com
0.878 ( 17.1 / 19.5) 10 Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com>
0.821 ( 6.3 / 7.7) 8 scott@softbase.com
Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.498 ( 3.6 / 7.2) 13 jzawodn@wcnet.org
0.486 ( 2.4 / 5.0) 6 sitaram@diac.com (Sitaram Chamarty)
0.480 ( 2.6 / 5.4) 6 Jan Krynicky <JKRY3025@comenius.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
0.474 ( 4.0 / 8.4) 7 Gisle Aas <aas@sn.no>
0.474 ( 2.3 / 4.9) 5 alecler@cam.org (Andre L.)
0.458 ( 20.9 / 45.7) 51 abigail@fnx.com
0.445 ( 1.6 / 3.5) 6 Marc.Haber-usenet@gmx.de (Marc Haber)
0.440 ( 2.9 / 6.7) 7 "Simon Fairey" <simonf@conduit.co.uk>
0.283 ( 2.1 / 7.5) 7 maierc@chesco.com
0.251 ( 1.0 / 4.0) 5 "Teflon" <indy@NOSPAMdemobuilder.com>
61 posters (10%) had at least five posts.
Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================
Posts Subject
----- -------
93 -w on production code (was Re: better way of getting the last modified file?)
72 new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce
33 Deutsche Boerse sucht 100 neue Mitarbeiter im IT-Bereich
22 Getting Yesterday's Date
20 Oh man, DO I love Perl ! (References to things that go out of scope)
18 Weirdness in trying to extract year from localtime
17 tough regexp - help needed
17 question about objects
16 NEVER "call warn() and return undef" (Re: question about objects)
16 Do I understand this?
These threads accounted for 19.4% of all articles.
Top 10 Threads by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------
197.5 ( 83.9/ 98.6/ 60.9) 93 -w on production code (was Re: better way of getting the last modified file?)
142.9 ( 54.6/ 77.0/ 50.6) 72 new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce
71.4 ( 36.7/ 33.0/ 20.1) 33 Deutsche Boerse sucht 100 neue Mitarbeiter im IT-Bereich
43.7 ( 17.3/ 24.7/ 16.1) 20 Oh man, DO I love Perl ! (References to things that go out of scope)
37.4 ( 15.5/ 18.9/ 12.6) 22 Getting Yesterday's Date
34.8 ( 11.3/ 21.7/ 12.1) 15 Do we need lame msgs in discussions? Re : Martien Verbruggen
32.7 ( 11.9/ 20.6/ 13.3) 14 HELP: Internet Database Design questions...
30.7 ( 13.7/ 15.1/ 11.2) 17 question about objects
30.2 ( 12.3/ 13.9/ 11.6) 9 REPOST: Re: I am an "antispam spammer"?
29.5 ( 12.9/ 15.4/ 8.7) 17 tough regexp - help needed
These threads accounted for 22.6% of the total volume.
Top 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.899 ( 1.9/ 2.1) 5 how long does it take to execute some code?
0.848 ( 8.1/ 9.6) 6 PUZZLE: make hat, take ham
0.836 ( 11.6/ 13.9) 9 REPOST: Re: I am an "antispam spammer"?
0.819 ( 2.6/ 3.2) 5 How to use 'system ("...")' on WIN32.
0.812 ( 6.3/ 7.7) 8 DB_File in the real world.
0.762 ( 8.3/ 10.8) 9 How can you encrypt a CGI script on a server so it will not get "stolen"?
0.760 ( 2.5/ 3.2) 5 Simple (?) Perl maths question
0.755 ( 3.0/ 4.0) 5 pattern matching results into an array
0.753 ( 3.2/ 4.2) 8 y2k
0.744 ( 6.5/ 8.7) 8 open2 problems
Bottom 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.489 ( 2.0 / 4.0) 7 Character entity for <space>?
0.482 ( 1.5 / 3.2) 7 Removing the ^M character
0.467 ( 5.8 / 12.4) 9 Choosing DBMS: friendly to Linux, Apache, Perl, Java
0.465 ( 1.2 / 2.6) 5 Get IP Address for Server Name
0.438 ( 1.7 / 4.0) 5 s/,/','/;
0.436 ( 1.5 / 3.3) 5 How to get files in a directory?
0.377 ( 1.5 / 4.0) 6 any way to measure sub-seconds? was Re: how long does it take to execute some code?
0.377 ( 2.8 / 7.3) 6 Abigail - Another Question for you.
0.368 ( 1.5 / 4.1) 5 \Q and \E
0.335 ( 2.8 / 8.4) 10 regexp s/// for removing tail end of string
89 threads (18%) had at least five posts.
Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
=============================
Articles Newsgroup
-------- ---------
56 comp.lang.perl.modules
36 comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
33 bln.markt.arbeit
33 at.anzeigen.arbeitsmarkt
33 de.comp.lang.java
33 de.markt.arbeit.d
33 de.comp.lang.c++
33 de.comp.lang.c
33 de.comp.lang.perl
32 de.comm.isdn.computer
Top 10 Crossposters
===================
Articles Address
-------- -------
45 Oliver Bandel <oliver@first.in-berlin.de>
27 stolze@paxp01.mipool.uni-jena.de (Knut Stolze)
27 "Stephan Roder (infoware GmbH)" <roder@odars.de>
26 lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
18 Chris Huebsch <chu@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
18 uz@musoftware.com
14 root.noharvest.\@not_even\here.com
10 "Manfred Schneider" <manfred.schneider@rhein-neckar.de>
9 frederik@remote.org (Frederik Ramm)
9 Ulf Wendel <ulf.wendel@airbrush-zeitung.de>
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:31:39 +0200
From: Adam Kopacz <Adam.K@idnet.de>
Subject: string / []
Message-Id: <r89do6.5r1.ln@news.kLo.de>
hi,
i have a problem with a string in a cgi =>
($TYPE = $ENV{'HTTP_USER_AGENT'});
$word = "\Q$TYPE";
.
BLOCK: {
$recall = 0;
while (<FILE>) {
/$word/io && last BLOCK; #word exists->get out
$recall = tell(FILE); #remember where hit was
}
.
why this don't work ? my $word isn't found in FILE :(
i have also tried /$_word/io and so..
$TYPE can be something like : bla/3.98 [xyz]; (8282.9292)
and perl5 has problms with the [] :(
with \Q this should work but it didn't :((
and with \Q the output looks ugly <g> this would be ok but maybe there
is a better answer ?
--
Adam Kopacz - http://www.idnet.de/~AdamK - ICQ# 257499
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Date: 13 Jul 1998 16:27:22 GMT
From: petdance@maxx.mc.net (Andy Lester)
Subject: Re: Urgent!! Need Programmer for perm in Malibu, Ca
Message-Id: <6odcha$j66$1@supernews.com>
: We need a programmer learned in C, C++, Java, Active X, and ASP
: for a perm position in Malibu, Ca. Good Salary.
If you're looking for a perm position, I don't understand why you need all
the computer stuff.
Why not post to alt.jobs.hairdressers?
xoxo,
Andy
--
--
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Date: 13 Jul 1998 15:07:57 GMT
From: scott@softbase.com
Subject: Re: What's the substitute for #! /usr/bin/perl in Win32 Perl?
Message-Id: <6od7sd$3ut$1@mainsrv.main.nc.us>
> I'm using the ActiveState Win32 Perl on an NT 4.0 system... what do I
> use in place of the first line (#! /usr/bin/perl) in Unix versions of
> the script ?
You don't. NT doesn't support this "magic number" style of
execution.
You either:
1. Just type "perl whatever.pl" on the command line. This is
the best solution.
2. Go through the rigamarole to create a batch file
that runs the perl script -- tools are included with
the distribution (if I remember right, I never use this)
3. Associate .pl with perl.exe and run it from Explorer.
This is a bad, bad, bad, bad, bad idea since Perl
is command-line oriented and you will likely just
see a command prompt window flash on the screen and
not know what happened.
If you are trying to run a CGI Perl program, get and install the ISAPI
version of Perl. The command line Perl doesn't work with IIS or PWS.
(If it does, getting it to work wouldn't be worth the hassle. I've
never gotten it to work in 2-3 years.) The ISAPI version of Perl
automatically installs a handler for .pl files *in the web server*, so
a URL like http://whatever/scripts/foo.pl automatically runs the ISAPI
DLL.
Scott
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Date: 13 Jul 1998 16:08:37 GMT
From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Subject: Re: Why is Dave operating here? (was Re: REPOST: Re: )
Message-Id: <6odbe5$7hv$1@news.NERO.NET>
In article <6ocbqa$31g$1@client3.news.psi.net>,
Abigail <abigail@fnx.com> wrote:
>++ When was the charter for this newsgroup changed to invite Dave? I don't
>++ recall any discussion asking for Dave's "help", and do not appreciate
>++ losing the ability to cancel my own articles.
>
>Since when do we invite people?
Oh, Abigail. Do I read your question at face value and think you don't
know what Dave is, or is your question disengenuous? Do you really not
know that Dave is a program and not a person?
>And what makes you think you lose the
>ability to cancel your own articles?
Do you really not know how Dave works?
>To me, it looks like Dave is resurrecting rogue cancels. Unless you have
>the conception that all articles are yours and you should have the ability
>to cancel them all, I don't there's anything Dave is preventing you to do.
Except that when Dave controls a group, you don't get to cancel your own
articles, either.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:07:27 GMT
From: sonny-lives-in-our-hearts@IDONTLIKESPAMjuno.com (The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee)
Subject: Re: Why is Dave operating here? (was Re: REPOST: Re: )
Message-Id: <35aa3018.85819594@news.op.net>
On 13 Jul 1998 07:08:58 GMT, abigail@fnx.com (Abigail) wrote:
>John Stanley (stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU) wrote on MDCCLXXVII September
>MCMXCIII in <URL: news:6oc0bi$3cd$1@news.NERO.NET>:
>++ X-Reposted-By: dave@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
>++
>++ When was the charter for this newsgroup changed to invite Dave? I don't
>++ recall any discussion asking for Dave's "help", and do not appreciate
>++ losing the ability to cancel my own articles.
>
>Since when do we invite people? And what makes you think you lose the
>ability to cancel your own articles?
It's probably because in the newsgroups Dave regularly patrols (the
only ones I'm aware of are in news.admin.net-abuse.*), Dave resurrects
*all* cancelled articles as a defense against rogue cancels. Hence,
one can't easily cancel one's own posts. Mr. Stanley probably wasn't
aware that Dave's presence in this group is simply a temporary
measure.
--
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views of the Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee.
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Date: 12 Jul 98 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
Subject: Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Mar 98)
Message-Id: <null>
Administrivia:
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