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Perl-Users Digest Sun, 12 Jul 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 3135
Today's topics:
Re: "The opposite of read()" (John Siracusa)
Re: \Q and \E (Marc Haber)
Re: HELP: Internet Database Design questions... <joseg@nousit.net>
Lenght of string and array problem... <shade@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Need a more efficient sort subroutine. (Meeko)
Re: opendir and Novell 4.xx (was: How to get files in a (Jonathan Stowe)
Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page (Ilya Zakharevich)
Re: Perl+MS SQL mspitzer@stones.com
Re: Problem controlling smbclient via perl <rainer@demag.rwth-aachen.de>
Re: Putting CPAN on a CD: good or not good? birgitt@my-dejanews.com
REPOST: Re: Dejanews/closed lists/moderated groups/list (The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee)
REPOST: Re: Dejanews/closed lists/moderated groups/list birgitt@my-dejanews.com
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REPOST: Re: I am an "antispam spammer"? (Daniel E. Macks)
REPOST: Re: I am an "antispam spammer"? (Bob Trieger)
tree data structure <jgraham@uvic.ca>
Re: Where can I find GD.pm (Michael E. Schechter)
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Date: 12 Jul 1998 14:18:40 GMT
From: macintsh@cs.bu.edu (John Siracusa)
Subject: Re: "The opposite of read()"
Message-Id: <6oagk0$d69$1@news1.bu.edu>
Ronald J Kimball (rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
: What return value were you looking for?
I was looking for "number of bytes actually written" so I
know how far I got before failure. Actually, I think I've
found something suitable: POSIX::write()
-----------------+----------------------------------------
John Siracusa | If you only have a hammer, you tend to
macintsh@bu.edu | see every problem as a nail. -- Maslow
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:17:56 GMT
From: Marc.Haber-usenet@gmx.de (Marc Haber)
Subject: Re: \Q and \E
Message-Id: <6oankp$nm7$2@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler) wrote:
>In article <6oagbe$n01$4@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> on Sun, 12 Jul 1998
>14:13:29 GMT, Marc Haber <Marc.Haber-usenet@gmx.de> says...
>...
>> Obviously, \Q and \E are invoked during the assignment to $search2.
>> How do I make \Q and \E do their magic when the string comes in from a
>> file?
>
>`perldoc -f quotemeta` might be what you are looking for.
Not quite. I have a program that helps me developing regexps by
reading one from stdin and then matching all lines subsequently read
against that regexp and reporting failure or success.
I'd like to have that program properly handle \Q and \E in strings.
Will I have to do something like
$str =~ /^(.*)\\Q(.*)\\E(.*)$/;
$str = $1.quotemeta($2).$3;
until the exp won't match any more?
Note: This most certainly won't work in that form since I am
disregarding many special cases at the moment - I just want to get the
thought thru.
Greetings
Marc
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:13:05 -0500
From: "jose" <joseg@nousit.net>
Subject: Re: HELP: Internet Database Design questions...
Message-Id: <6oancb$p68$1@news.usit.net>
I was wondering when someone would answer this Unix person..
I for one have seen NT w/IIS and ASP running fine, it's a solution that
works fine, because it's a MS solution to a common problem, designing a web
site that produces dynamic content and not something that changes once in a
while.
So the web is floating with Unix boxes and that doesn't mean we have forget
about the others. For the UNIX person "-", you might want to look at some
other technologies floating around the web..
Access and ASP, do work.
Craig Bloom wrote in message <35A7F6BA.CD772C46@bones.org>...
>Geez... the guy just wants to add a little database functionality, and it
>doesn't even sound mission-critical. These Unix snobs really irk me
>sometimes. Why overcomplicate the matter for someone who is just getting
>started? I agree... NT, IIS, ASP and Access for quick development and fast
>results. And it is a nice introduction to database manipulation for those
>who haven't put their foot in the water yet. Later move it to MSSQL Server
>if you need it to be more robust. The transition should be fairly
painless.
>
>OR you can waste many hours learning your way around the unix operating
>system, teaching yourself perl and stuffing data into (real efficient, yeah
>right) flat file databases. Boy, tough choice.
>
>OK, now you can tell us again how much smarter you are because you use
unix.
>
>
>
>No-name guy wrote:
>
>> Catherine Skidmore <eppie@interport.net> Said this:
>>
>> >Avi Goldenberg wrote:
>> >
>> >> 1) What are the current technologies needed to achieve the minimum of
>> >> data storage, retrieval, and manipulation? (I prefer to stay NT as
>> >> opposed to UNIX)
>> >
>> >ooh. Access and ASP. or Access and Cold Fusion.
>>
>> Oh my GOD. No.
>>
>> >
>> >> 2) What do I need to look for in a hosting service to allow me to
>> >> achieve #1?
>> >
>> >an NT Box running IIS.
>> >
>>
>> Argh. New to computing? Must be.
>
>
>
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Date: 12 Jul 1998 17:59:16 +0200
From: Ondrej Sury <shade@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Subject: Lenght of string and array problem...
Message-Id: <kq90lzcb6z.fsf@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
1. How do I find out length of string in Perl?
2. Array @mages is filled with numbers. But after I use this
code each number in array rewritten by value of $mg_found{$_}.
I use similar code on other place and it doesn't behave like
this. What is the problem?
foreach (@mages) {
$_ = $mg_found{$_};
@_ = split //;
for ($a = 0; $a < 10; $a++) {
$max{$a} = $_[$a] if ($max{$a} < $_[$a]);
}
}
Ondrej Sury.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:02:42 GMT
From: meeko@meeko.org (Meeko)
Subject: Need a more efficient sort subroutine.
Message-Id: <35a94b26.1030065796@news.earthlink.net>
I am writing a program which will let a user sort the contents of a
csv file according to as many columns as he/she wishes to, however
the sort routine I am using is taking extremely long, and since I am
not an expert on writing efficient sort routines, I figured someone
could come up with a much better one. Here is what I am doing right
now:
First of all, I'm using the Text::CSV module:
require Text::CSV;
Then I read in my file (passed as a command line argument) into one
array, called @oldlines. Now, what I want to do is sort those lines
by the columns specified, which are also command line arguments, and
are held in the array @col_num, and the scalar $count contains the
number of columns to sort. Before beginning the sort, I create 2 new
CSV objects for the sort routine to use:
$aline=Text::CSV->new;
$bline=Text::CSV->new;
Then I sort the lines, reversing the order in which I get them back,
with this:
@newlines = reverse sort by_values @oldlines;
Here is my inefficient by_values routine:
sub by_values {
$aline->parse($a);
$bline->parse($b);
@alist=$aline->fields();
@blist=$bline->fields();
for ($count=0; $count<$columns; $count++) {
$comp_a="\L$alist[$col_num[$count]]\E"; # Case insensitve
$comp_b="\L$blist[$col_num[$count]]\E"; # comparing
$compare=($comp_a cmp $comp_b);
if ($compare!=0) { last; }
}
return $compare;
}
The good news is, this routine does indeed work. The bad news is, it
took a good 30-40 minutes to execute on a Pentium 233, when sorting on
a 3.5 MB .csv file with about 10 or 12 columns. I know there has got
to be a better way to sort these lines, I just don't know how. I read
lots about the Schwartzian Transform thing, but I'm not sure how I
would implement that in this case.
If someone could figure out a much more efficient way of sorting all
these lines by the columns specified in @col_num, any advice would be
appreciated. Even suggestions on how to go about it would help.
Please send your advice to meeko@meeko.org
Thanks in advance!
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:26:31 GMT
From: Gellyfish@btinternet.com (Jonathan Stowe)
Subject: Re: opendir and Novell 4.xx (was: How to get files in a directory?)
Message-Id: <35a67478.118061836@news.btinternet.com>
On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 21:22:36 GMT, Charles Maier wrote :
>Apparently.. this "opendir() and friends work on all perl ports" is not
>true. I have a client that just installed Novell 4.xx and got their
>(included) webserver. The documentation says that opendir does NOT work
>in the Perl supplied with it. Anyone have any thoughts on this?? The
>only reason I mention this is they may decide to move my supported apps
>to this platform.
>
You might want to discover which version of Perl you are using with
Novell. The perl distributed as standard with IntraNetware (yuk) was
a 4.036 port - there did seem to be some problems with this. The
current Beta version of the NW 5 OSA SDK does include a fairly
reasonable looking Perl 5 but I havent had a chance to check it out in
detail. If you sign up for the Novell DeveloperNet they will send you
the CD's of all the current Beta stuff.
/J\
Jonathan Stowe
Some of your questions answered:
<URL:http://www.btinternet.com/~gellyfish/resources/wwwfaq.htm>
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Date: 13 Jul 1998 00:40:32 GMT
From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)
Subject: Re: Perl Beautifier Home Page
Message-Id: <6obl20$b7b$1@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Tom Christiansen
<tchrist@mox.perl.com>],
who wrote in article <6ob8tc$76g$1@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>:
> [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
>
> In comp.lang.perl.misc, ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich) writes:
> :Which proves nothing. It is not Perl4, since it uses isn't_programmer
> :without leading &, and is not Perl5 since it uses isn::t_programmer
> :without ::. Thus it is not Perl.
>
> That's not the way things work. Your logic is utterly wrong.
Let me recall your complaints after you used alpha-perls in production
environment, and got fried by a semantic change (that //gc vs. //g
discussion). Now you repeat it again.
You have been warned that you use bad programming practice:
undocumented constructs. If you choose to ignore this warning
(calling names in between), it is your problem, not mine.
Enjoy,
Ilya
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:39:36 GMT
From: mspitzer@stones.com
Subject: Re: Perl+MS SQL
Message-Id: <1103_900257976@kennel>
> Hi!
> Please, help: is there any module that gives opportunity to work with
> Microsoft SQL Server (I need to write a program that connects Internet user
> and database)
>
> Thanx!
>
>
try the sybase DBI module. I read that it might work.
Good luck,
marc
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:01:51 +0200
From: Rainer Finocchiaro <rainer@demag.rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: Problem controlling smbclient via perl
Message-Id: <35A94E6F.83EFB410@demag.rwth-aachen.de>
Maurizio M. Munafo' wrote:
>
> Rainer Finocchiaro <rainer@demag.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I want to fetch the list of logged-in users from our NT domain server.
> > As it should be done on a regular basis (every ten minutes) I want it to
> > run without interaction, started by crond.
>
> On the SAMBA site you can find either a Perl module SMB.pm or
> a CGI program smb2www-980429.tar.gz that implement a Perl interface with the
> smbclient program.
>
> A possible URL is ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/servers/samba/smb2www/
>
> Maurizio
Thank you very much, looks really promising and I tried to use it
immediately.
Seems to work quite well apart from working noninteractively. I still
have to press <return> so that it continues to get for example all the
shares :-(
I don't know why, but all the servers I know of ask for a password and I
have to send them either my correct password or simply <return>. As it
is not implemented in SMB.pm to provide a password in the function
# Return an array with sorted host listing
# Syntax: @output = GetSMBHosts (host,group)
# array contains hashes; keys: name, comment
there seems to be a possibility to get the Hostlist without delivering
any passwd/<return> but I just can't figure out where my problem is or
what I am doing wrong :-(
So far it only works for me, if I start the script from the commandline
and then manually press <return>.
I.e. no noninteractive mode :-(
--
Rainer Finocchiaro
Hainbuchenstr. 2
52072 Aachen
Deutschland
Email: rainer@demag.rwth-aachen.de
Talk: rainer@vanadium.demag.rwth-aachen.de
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:38:23 GMT
From: birgitt@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: Putting CPAN on a CD: good or not good?
Message-Id: <6oa77g$p1a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <comdog-ya02408000R1007981305190001@news.panix.com>,
comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy) wrote:
>
> * the quality of the email message's grammar and spelling really
> make me think about the author's competence, although it
> sounds as if the language of the magazine and book may not
> be english (probably german).
>
> comments and such appreciated :)
Not being a native English speaker it seems to me that the message
doesn't only seem to indicate that the language of the magazine
is in German but also says so. Generally we publish semi-technical
journals in Germany in German, if the expected readership
consists mainly Germans.
It seems to me that the journal (I understand it is "PC MAGAZIN")
for which the author is preparing a one-time special issue about
Perl, is the one you can find at any kiosk everywhere in Germany.
The attached CD-ROM to the magazin is something done often in Germany,
apparently because online time to download things directly is
expensive. That is my assumption and I like to be corrected if
I am wrong.
Birgitt Funk
>
> ----MESSAGE----
> From jfey@well.com Fri Jul 10 12:42:10 1998
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:39:20 +0200
> From: Jurgen Fey <jfey@well.com>
> To: [snip several other addresses]
> "'comdog@computerdog.com'" <comdog@computerdog.com>
> Subject: Your contribution to the CPAN archive on magazines CD-ROM
>
> Hi,
>
> I am the editor of an special issue about Perl for PC Magazin
> in Germany and just about now after (finally) finishing
^^^^^^^^^^
> the articles compiling the CD-ROM for the mag.
>
> The magazine will cover various tutorials explaining the
> concept of this wonderful language as well as provide an inside look into
> modules like CGI, LWP, Mod_perl, PDL, Win32 - libwin and
> others. For the die hards there is an section covering
> XS/SWIG/MakeMaker.
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From: sonny-lives-in-our-hearts@IDONTLIKESPAMjuno.com (The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee)
Subject: REPOST: Re: Dejanews/closed lists/moderated groups/lists [Was: Re: Is perl5-porters closed to subscription?
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On 10 Jul 1998 13:38:16 GMT, Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
wrote:
> [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
>
>In comp.lang.perl.misc, Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:
>:Copyright violations are, so far as I know, always civil complaints,
>
>They needn't be. It's now a criminal offence.
Citation?
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 19:02:35 GMT
From: birgitt@my-dejanews.com
Subject: REPOST: Re: Dejanews/closed lists/moderated groups/lists [Was: Re: Is perl5-porters closed to subscription?
Message-Id: <REPOST-7054.78469848633.6o8csb$llb$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <35a80f9a.155274217@news.op.net>,
sonny-lives-in-our-hearts@IDONTLIKESPAMjuno.com (The Sonny Bono Internet
Tribute Committee) wrote:
> On 10 Jul 1998 13:38:16 GMT, Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
> wrote:
>
> > [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
> >
> >In comp.lang.perl.misc, Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:
> >:Copyright violations are, so far as I know, always civil complaints,
> >
> >They needn't be. It's now a criminal offence.
>
> Citation?
>
Oops, I am more than satisfied with the responses I got. I am a bit
worried to become the originator of an off-topic thread here which
I didn't intend.
It just happened that I witnessed someone posting a private email
response back to a NG for which it was clear that there was no consent
given by the author. Before giving in to the urge to post something
what most of you would consider an attempt to 'straighten' out the
poster I wanted to clear if my personal judgement was round about right.
Thanks for the replies.
Birgitt Funk
> --
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> views of the Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee.
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Date: 10 Jul 1998 04:52:10 -0700
From: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
Subject: REPOST: Re: Dejanews/closed lists/moderated groups/lists [Was: Re: Is perl5-porters closed to subscription?
Message-Id: <REPOST-24058.2657775879.m3vhp5exed.fsf@windlord.Stanford.EDU>
In news.groups, birgitt <birgitt@my-dejanews.com> writes:
> fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie) wrote:
>> Since your "payment" is indirect, you have no control. The only control
>> you might be able to exert is to have your posts removed from dejanews
>> as a violation of your copyright.
> Is it a matter of netiquette or is it really against the law (violation
> of the author's copyright - is there really a written law for that ?)
> to publish a private email response to a post in a news group in a post
> as a follow-up to that response ?
So far as I know, it's never been tested in court, so we have no idea.
Copyright violations are, so far as I know, always civil complaints, so
you would have to sue for damages; under most circumstances, the damages
aren't going to exist, so the lawsuit isn't going to be possible.
> What are my rights as the author of that email ?
Basically, you could try to take them to court. Beyond that, not much.
> Have there been cases where this became a point of a severe dispute ?
On Usenet, sure. Not off Usenet so far as I know.
> In that regard does it matter if the publication of the private email
> response to a previous post happened in a news group or in an open
> mailing list ?
Probably not really.
--
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Date: 10 Jul 1998 13:38:16 GMT
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: REPOST: Re: Dejanews/closed lists/moderated groups/lists [Was: Re: Is perl5-porters closed to subscription?
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In comp.lang.perl.misc, Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:
:Copyright violations are, so far as I know, always civil complaints,
They needn't be. It's now a criminal offence. Whether you'll get a
DA to take it or not is another matter.
--tom
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Date: 11 Jul 1998 01:08:28 GMT
From: dmacks@sas.upenn.edu (Daniel E. Macks)
Subject: REPOST: Re: I am an "antispam spammer"?
Message-Id: <REPOST-7496.7712097168.73043823242.2346191406.6133728027.6o6duc$o8e$1@netnews.upenn.edu>
WD Baseley (wbaseley@mindspring.com) said:
: [comp.lang.perl.misc added to newsgroups]
:
: In article <slrn6qcfme.nqf.the_wildman_98@foobar.net>,
: the_wildman_98@hotmail.com (The Wildman) articulated:
:
: >However, you didn't reply to it. You saw the warning and decided to make a
: >snide remark. Exactly what is an "antispam spammer" anyway? Maybe *you*
: >are a spammer. You certainly have the mentality (i.e. you lied about
: >replying) for it.
:
: This person: a) tried to help you; b) doesn't like mungs and other
: stunts aimed at deflecting junk email. There are a lot of people like
: that. Your mentality is the one that should be questioned, for being
: so stupidly rude to someone who was attempting to assist you.
CLPM has a large contingent of "if you want a reply by email, I'd damn
well better be able to just hit reply." That's one of the
characteristics that's developed in the froup. An even stronger
contingent is "you asked by posting, so I'm gonna reply by posting"
(at one point the FAQ made this very clear). One of the premises there
is that one is coming for help, so one must do everything possible to
help folks help that person. Each additional hoop is that many more
YAPHer (possibly the only one with the answer to a tricky question)
who will say "too much trouble...I'll skip this one."
: A generous offer. Could you point me to the RFC that allows you to
: attempt to publicly humiliate anyone who objects to jumping through
: your reply hoops?
What he said.
dan
--
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dmacks@a.chem.upenn.edu
dmacks@netspace.org
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 04:20:53 GMT
From: sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob Trieger)
Subject: REPOST: Re: I am an "antispam spammer"?
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[ posted and mailed ] (yes, I sent a _coutesy_ mail also.)
fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie) wrote:
-> I believe Wildman's warning message is:
->
-> + Do NOT reply to this post! All mail sent to the From/Reply-To will be
-> + considered spam, and handled appropriately.
->
-> I'd call that a broken reply mechanism - "handled appropriately" may well
-> tend to mean "redirected straight into /dev/null" and "replying here is a
-> waste of your time, so don't bother". That's only marginally less rude
-> than someone who munges their address...
I think it is even ruder than the morons with munged addresses. They are so
stupid they don't have a clue that they are being rude. Yet wolfman spells out
his rudeness which would have a whole different meaning if he just added 1
(one) word....... `please'. Does nobody use that word any more?
BTW, I missed something here, what is his appropriate way of handling SPAM?
Bob Trieger
sowmaster@juicepigs.com
" Cost a spammer some cash: Call 1-800-400-1972
Ext: 1949 and let the jerk that answers know
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:50:00 GMT
From: "Jonah Graham" <jgraham@uvic.ca>
Subject: tree data structure
Message-Id: <YQcq1.3154$xs3.1402562@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>
Has anyone out there ever used a tree in PERL? If someone has could you
please post it.
Thanks,
Jonah
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:32:12 GMT
From: mschechter@earthlink.net (Michael E. Schechter)
Subject: Re: Where can I find GD.pm
Message-Id: <35a8e4eb.5224852@news.earthlink.net>
On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:11:49 +0100, Geoff Wilkins
<GeoffW@wordsmith.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I'm looking urgently for Lincoln Stein's Perl graphics module, GD.pm.
>All the links I've come across are to
>
> www-genome.wi.mit.edu/ftp/pub/software/WWW/GD.html
>
>but this gives the message
>
> "File Not Found: Our server is in the middle of maintenance..."
>
>Does anyone know where else I might find it? (Or anything similar?)
>
>
>Geoff Wilkins
>
>34 Farnham Road, Handsworth, Birmingham B21 8EG, UK,
> telephone: 0121-554 8264
>
>email GeoffW@wordsmith.demon.co.uk
>Web-site at http://www.wordsmith.demon.co.uk/
Go to your local CPAN site. You can find a link to it off of the Perl
page at http://www.perl.com/.
Mike Schechter
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