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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 3126 Volume: 8
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Sat Jul 11 09:07:19 1998
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 98 06:01:16 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Sat, 11 Jul 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 3126
Today's topics:
BigEndian (long) to LittleEndian <cstuber@census.gov>
Can C compiler make server scripts? krzych@altavista.net
can't control forks dwiesel@my-dejanews.com
DB format change? <klsmith@thewild.com>
Re: Dejanews/closed lists/moderated groups/lists [Was: (The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee)
Getting a web page before a process finishes.. (Steve Swantz)
Help -- MS SQL connection. <ev@mcs.ru>
Re: How to in perl <r_larsen@image.dk>
Re: HTML Metatag Viewer ? <aas@sn.no>
Re: I am an "antispam spammer"? (Bob Trieger)
Re: I am an "antispam spammer"? (Old Salt)
I am having a (possible) problem with crypt in perl <daflores@unm.edu>
Re: I am having a (possible) problem with crypt in perl (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Re: I am having a (possible) problem with crypt in perl (Larry Rosler)
Re: MacPerl::Ask joshua@no.spam.leeds.ac.uk
Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announ (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announ <pgunn01@ibm.net>
Re: Putting CPAN on a CD: good or not good? (Bart Lateur)
Re: question about objects (Bart Lateur)
Reading virtmaps.db with perl <vygen@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Re: redux, step 1 (was Re: new charter and moderator fo <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Re: redux, step 1 (was Re: new charter and moderator fo <quednauf@nortel.co.uk>
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 08:06:37 -0400
From: Chris Stuber <cstuber@census.gov>
Subject: BigEndian (long) to LittleEndian
Message-Id: <35A7554D.E54DF42E@census.gov>
I am reading binary data (long) into 4 bytes of a scalar...
I know its big endian data, How do I convert into little endian?
Does anyway have a subroutine to convert this mess?
Thanks,
-Chris
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:07:19 GMT
From: krzych@altavista.net
Subject: Can C compiler make server scripts?
Message-Id: <6o7khm$jpp$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I use C Complier Kit by Malcolm Beattie.I tried to convert perl scripts into
C and later into executable file. The reason why I did this I wanted to hide
my Perl code and to make it difficult to understand. I want to use it as a
normal script on my linux virtual web server. Is it possible to use such
compiled program as a script on the server.
Is it possible to make executable files to be shorter (blib/arch sound
mysterious to me)?
Is it possible to use this Kit to do such things or not?
Chris
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 08:23:33 GMT
From: dwiesel@my-dejanews.com
Subject: can't control forks
Message-Id: <6o77e4$vfr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hallo
I have a program where I'm forking a lot. And have two problems.
1. I don't know when the forks are done. 2. My subroutine &do_something is
fetching a webpage and that webpage resides on another server which could be
very slow. I don't want to wait forever. Maby a solution to that is to wait
30 seconds... Is there a better solution?
I've heard that wait() and waitpid() exists but I'm not sure how to use
them... I would appreciate if someone could give me an example.
Thank you very much.
// Daniel
CODE SNIPPET
============
$number_of_forks = 9;
for (1..$number_of_forks)
{
# Create a new process
$pid = fork;
# If child
if ($pid eq 0)
{
&do_something; #Could take very long time...
}
}
&wait_until_all_forks_are_done;
...
sub do_something
{
socket SOCKET, AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0;
if (connect SOCKET, sockaddr_in(80, inet_aton($domain)))
{
select SOCKET; $| = 1; select STDOUT;
# This is the place where I don't want to wait forever for an
answer...
print SOCKET "GET $url\n\n";
while ($rad = <SOCKET>)
{
$text .= $rad;
}
close SOCKET;
&do_something_with_the_text;
}
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 03:23:09 -0400
From: Kathy Lynn Smith <klsmith@thewild.com>
Subject: DB format change?
Message-Id: <35A712DD.C9249657@thewild.com>
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I have a hefty script that I wrote using dbmopen/dbmclose and using the
associated hashes from those files - I notice at now - after upgrading
my redhat to 5.1 - it creates just a file.db instead of a file.db and
file.pag - and it doesn't read the old formats anymore either! (nor does
dbmmanage)
Was there a change I didn't catch? Can I convert my old databases? It
seems to create new ones (with just the file.db) just fine.
Kath
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ers/klsmith/nssig.html"
<HTML>
<P>--
<BR>
<CENTER><TABLE BORDER=3 COLS=2 WIDTH="90%" >
<TR ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF">
<TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF">
<CENTER><A HREF="http://WWW.GeoCities.Com/WestHollwood/7654"><IMG SRC="http://www.thewild.com/~klsmith/klbanner.jpg" ALT="Kathy Lynn's Roost" HEIGHT=60 WIDTH=234></A></CENTER>
</TD>
<TD ALIGN=LEFT VALIGN=CENTER><B><FONT COLOR="#FF0000"><FONT SIZE=+1>Catherine
Lynn Smith</FONT></FONT></B>
<BR><I> </I> <A HREF="mailto:K-Lynn@GeoCities.Com">K-Lynn@GeoCities.Com</A>
<BR> <A HREF="http://WWW.GeoCities.Com/WestHollywood/7654">Kathy
Lynn's Roost</A>
<CENTER><I>all friends welcome...</I></CENTER>
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:09:27 GMT
From: sonny-lives-in-our-hearts@IDONTLIKESPAMjuno.com (The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee)
Subject: Re: Dejanews/closed lists/moderated groups/lists [Was: Re: Is perl5-porters closed to subscription?
Message-Id: <35a80f9a.155274217@news.op.net>
On 10 Jul 1998 13:38:16 GMT, Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
wrote:
> [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
>
>In comp.lang.perl.misc, Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:
>:Copyright violations are, so far as I know, always civil complaints,
>
>They needn't be. It's now a criminal offence.
Citation?
--
The opinions of this poster do not necessarily reflect the
views of the Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee.
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Date: 11 Jul 1998 03:54:28 EDT
From: max_eper@hotmail.com (Steve Swantz)
Subject: Getting a web page before a process finishes..
Message-Id: <max_eper-1107980254380001@ts001d17.min-mn.concentric.net>
I'm using a web form to mail a message to a list of subscribers. Right
now, I'm trying fork(). One process writes the page, then sends one
e-mail, while the other process takes on the big mailing. The problem -
the page will not appear until both processes are done, even though an
e-mail sent following the printing of the HTML arrives pronto. IOW, mail
sent after the page is printed arrives long before the page appears.
This iteration has the parent writing the HTML while not waiting for the
child. Same results if the child writes the page and the parent waits
properly to do the mailing - still no page visible till the mailing is
done.
So..what do you do to get your HTML page to appear pronto after launching
a lenghty process? Why does the page not appear until all processes are
done, even if it was printed first? FWIW, our web server is Apache on a
Sun box...
TIA,
Steve Swantz
max_eper@hotmail.com
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if (!defined ($kidpid = fork()) ) { # undef - fork failure
&CgiDie ("Fork Failed");
} elsif ($kidpid == 0) { # this is child process
sleep (180); # doing this to simulate the delay of a large mailing
$time_sent = localtime(time);
&send_mail ("from\@from.org", "to\@to.org",
"Mailed by child", "Time is $time_sent");
exit;
} else { # neither 0 or undef, so this is the parent
# waitpid ( $kidpid, 0); what happens if we don't wait? - no change...
$time = localtime(time);
print &PrintHeader;
print &HtmlTop;
print "Name is $name<BR>This is the parent process at $time";
print &HtmlBot;
&send_mail ("from\@from.org", "to\@to.org",
"Mailed by parent", "Time is $time"); #this shows up
before the page!
}
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 11:14:33 +0400
From: Vladimir Yevdokimov <ev@mcs.ru>
Subject: Help -- MS SQL connection.
Message-Id: <35A46DD9.99A55D95@mcs.ru>
Hello all!
I'm a novice in Perl, and I want to work with MS SQLserver in Perl.
I've downloaded Perl for Win95 from ActiveState, and I've downloaded
libwin32 (a bundle of Win32 modules that build under the latest version
of Perl) from
ftp://ftp.cs.colorado.edu/pub/perl/CPAN//modules/by-module/Win32/libwin32-0.12.zip.
An installation of Perl was successful, but I can't run install.bat from
libwin32: a diagnostic is "Can't execute
C:\SOURCE\PERL_W95\W95MOD~1\LIBWIN~1.12\INSTALL.BAT."
Anybody can explain me what I have to do?
Great thanks,
Vladimir Yevdokimov
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:00:32 +0200
From: R. A. Larsen <r_larsen@image.dk>
Subject: Re: How to in perl
Message-Id: <VA.00000049.0003df47@octo>
ac123@simpatico.ca wrote:
>
> I am new to perl and would like to do the following sed command but
> all in perl:
>
> sed 1,6d filename
>
> This sed command removes the top six lines from the file.
> How do I do this all in perl.
while (<>) { print if $. > 6; }
I hope this helps.
Regards, Reni
--
Using Virtual Access
http://www.vamail.com
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Date: 11 Jul 1998 10:03:05 +0200
From: Gisle Aas <aas@sn.no>
Subject: Re: HTML Metatag Viewer ?
Message-Id: <m3k95khl1i.fsf@furu.g.aas.no>
stephenwhite@sprint.ca writes:
> I am attempting to create a Perl metatag viewer which will open a
> secondary web browser window and display the parsed metatag
> information from the first window.
>
> I have the paser working but need the method to open the current file
> into a new browser window.
Perhaps we ought to have a module along these lines (or do we already
have it)?
------------------------------------------------
package Bowser::View;
use strict;
use Exporter;
*import = \&Exporter::import;
use vars qw(@EXPORT);
@EXPORT=qw(show);
my $browser = $ENV{BROWSER} || "lynx";
sub show
{
my $func = "show_" . $browser;
eval {
no strict 'refs';
&$func(@_)
}
}
sub show_lynx
{
my $url = shift;
my @cmd = "lynx";
unshift(@cmd, "xterm", "-e") if $ENV{DISPLAY};
system @cmd, $url;
$? == 0;
}
sub show_netscape
{
my $url = shift;
system "netscape", "-remote", "openURL($url)";
if ($?) {
system "netscape", $url;
if ($?) {
return;
}
}
1;
}
# etc...
1;
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 04:20:53 GMT
From: sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob Trieger)
Subject: Re: I am an "antispam spammer"?
Message-Id: <6o6pbe$shs$1@ligarius.ultra.net>
[ posted and mailed ] (yes, I sent a _coutesy_ mail also.)
fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie) wrote:
-> I believe Wildman's warning message is:
->
-> + Do NOT reply to this post! All mail sent to the From/Reply-To will be
-> + considered spam, and handled appropriately.
->
-> I'd call that a broken reply mechanism - "handled appropriately" may well
-> tend to mean "redirected straight into /dev/null" and "replying here is a
-> waste of your time, so don't bother". That's only marginally less rude
-> than someone who munges their address...
I think it is even ruder than the morons with munged addresses. They are so
stupid they don't have a clue that they are being rude. Yet wolfman spells out
his rudeness which would have a whole different meaning if he just added 1
(one) word....... `please'. Does nobody use that word any more?
BTW, I missed something here, what is his appropriate way of handling SPAM?
Bob Trieger
sowmaster@juicepigs.com
" Cost a spammer some cash: Call 1-800-400-1972
Ext: 1949 and let the jerk that answers know
that his toll free number was sent as spam. "
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 07:39:41 GMT
From: old.salt@mindspring.com (Old Salt)
Subject: Re: I am an "antispam spammer"?
Message-Id: <35a815ed.14770087@news.mindspring.com>
On Sat, 11 Jul 1998 04:20:53 GMT, sowmaster@juicepigs.com (Bob
Trieger) decided to post words that all would read on, "Re: I am an
"antispam spammer"?", lets see if they are worth reading. unless it
is by Steve Boursy:
>BTW, I missed something here, what is his appropriate way of handling SPAM?
Send a copy of the spam with full headers to
Postmaster/root/abuse at the ISP it came from. If you don't know how
to read e-mail headers go here:
The lessons are:
Spam-tracking 101 (for newbies)
Spam-tracking 102 (the many uses of DejaNews)
Spam-tracking 103 (the many uses of whois)
Spam-tracking 104 (a case study: spammer unmasked)
These are available at:
http://doofus.ml.org/spam/lessons/
Or get a copy of SamSpade from here:
http://www.blighty.com/spam/ or one of the other spamfighting tools
there.
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Support the anti-Spam amendment Join at http://www.cauce.org/
Write your Representatives, Murkowski/HR3888=NO , Smith/HR1748=YES
Notice. Spelling mistakes left in for people who need to correct
others to make their life fulfilled.
@dartmouth.edu is now block due to Archimedes Plutonium
My Mail Server is Protected by SPAMKILLER
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:17:25 -0600
From: "Dave Flores" <daflores@unm.edu>
Subject: I am having a (possible) problem with crypt in perl
Message-Id: <6o70ig$sof$1@news.nts-online.net>
I have looked through Dejanews and the man pages for crypt, but I am still
having a strange problem using crypt. Using some code I've gathered from
Dejanews, I did a script similar to the following:
#!/usr/bin/perl
####################################################
$what = "veryoriginal";
$what2 = "veryoriginal2";
srand;
@s = (".", "/", "0".."9", "A".."Z", "a".."z");
$orgEncrypt = crypt($what, $s[rand(64)].$s[rand(64)]);
if (crypt($what,$orgEncrypt) eq $orgEncrypt) {
print "original word checks out!\n";
}
if (crypt($what2,$orgEncrypt) eq $orgEncrypt) {
print "so does slightly modified version!";
}
exit(0);
####################################################
It verifies the original word in "$what" just fine, but its also verifying
words that are very similar to the original word, such as the variable
"$what2" against the encrypted original word. Can anyone explain to me what
I did wrong? Or possibly provide a snippet of code that might work better?
The encryption itself doesn't have to be to strong, as long as its their and
doesn't verify words that are similar. Again, I apologize if its a human
error (I am fairly new to Perl). Thanks for your help.
D. Flores
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Date: 11 Jul 1998 03:29:07 -0400
From: mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: I am having a (possible) problem with crypt in perl
Message-Id: <6o7483$f85$1@monet.op.net>
In article <6o70ig$sof$1@news.nts-online.net>,
Dave Flores <daflores@unm.edu> wrote:
>It verifies the original word in "$what" just fine, but its also verifying
>words that are very similar to the original word, such as the variable
>"$what2" against the encrypted original word. Can anyone explain to me what
>I did wrong?
You did nothing wrong. `crypt' only looks at the first eight
characters of the string. This is not a problem with Perl; it's a
limitation of the `crypt' supplied by your vendor.
>The encryption itself doesn't have to be to strong, as long as its their and
>doesn't verify words that are similar.
The MD5 checksum may be more suitable for what you want. It is
analogous to `crypt' but is suitable for larger input data. You can
get it from CPAN.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:44:34 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: I am having a (possible) problem with crypt in perl
Message-Id: <MPG.1010b7b831a7c2cf98972f@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[This followup was posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]
In article <6o70ig$sof$1@news.nts-online.net> on Sat, 11 Jul 1998
00:17:25 -0600, Dave Flores <daflores@unm.edu> says...
> I have looked through Dejanews and the man pages for crypt, but I am still
> having a strange problem using crypt. Using some code I've gathered from
> Dejanews, I did a script similar to the following:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> ####################################################
> $what = "veryoriginal";
> $what2 = "veryoriginal2";
...
> It verifies the original word in "$what" just fine, but its also verifying
> words that are very similar to the original word, such as the variable
> "$what2" against the encrypted original word. Can anyone explain to me what
> I did wrong? Or possibly provide a snippet of code that might work better?
> The encryption itself doesn't have to be to strong, as long as its their and
> doesn't verify words that are similar. Again, I apologize if its a human
> error (I am fairly new to Perl). Thanks for your help.
Neither `perldoc -f crypt` (perl 5.004_03) nor `man 3 crypt` (HP-UX
10.20) seems to document that the crypt() function encrypts *the first
eight characters only* of its input. But this is so (and has been
mentioned in c.l.p.m. recently). Test it with your code and you will
see. [`man 1 passwd` says "Only the first eight characters are
significant in an untrusted system." `passwd` uses crypt(3C).]
If this troubles you, you might try something like the following, which
mashes all the characters together in groups of eight. This reduces
greatly the probability of mapping two strings to the same eight
characters, but cannot be perfect (because different strings can produce
the same mapping; just interchange the first two groups of eight
characters, for example):
$_ = 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz';
my $x = "";
foreach (/(.{1,8})/gs) { $x ^= $_ }
... crypt $x, $salt;
I don't recall seeing this approach to safer encryptions before. I found
the '(.{1,n})' regex in c.l.p.m. yesterday, and I never dreamed I would
use the "assignment exclusive-or of two strings" operator in useful code!
--
Larry Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:18:44 +0100 (BST)
From: joshua@no.spam.leeds.ac.uk
Subject: Re: MacPerl::Ask
Message-Id: <35A79E68.78C8@no.spam>
sprigen687 wrote:
>
> I'm curious about the MacPerl::Ask and MacPerl::Answer functions. Can
> I use them to give input to the script? If there is a page about this,
> could you send me a link? Thank you.
Yes. They are specifically to pass strings or other input to your
scripts. A good way, possibly the best way, to get information on
how to use them is, assuming that you are using a Mac, to pull down
the help menu which is the one second from the right that has a large
question mark as its icon and select the item 'Macintosh specific
features'.
If you want a page on the WWW rather than one local to your hard disk,
here are 813:
<http://www.hotbot.com/default.asp?MT=MacPerl+Ask&submit=SEARCH&SM=MC&DV=7&RG=.com&DC=10&DE=2&_v=2&OPs=MDRTP>
Most of these point to the MacPerl digest which is a most valuable
repository of MacPerl information.
Ben.
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Date: 11 Jul 1998 03:22:53 -0400
From: mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce
Message-Id: <6o73sd$f7e$1@monet.op.net>
In article <6o6i3s$23ro$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu>,
Alan Schwartz <alansz@araw.mede.uic.edu> wrote:
>>This may indeed be the best of all possible worlds (w/apologies to Leibnitz).
>
>I think you mean Voltaire, author of Candide, who believed that
>he lived in the best of all possible worlds. :)
Leibnitz, looking for an answer to the question of why God allows evil
in the world, supposed that there was a maximization principle
involved, and perhaps the world was already optimal. Voltaire's novel
_Candide_ was intended as a parody of Leibnitzian philosophy, and
Dr. Pangloss is a parody of Leibnitz himself.
Followups to misc.misc.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 03:24:55 -0400
From: Pat Gunn <pgunn01@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce
Message-Id: <35A71347.6340@ibm.net>
Raphael Manfredi wrote:
> Better yet: have the moderator live in a place where such lawsuits
> are not even remotely thinkable, not to say feasible. In France, for
> instance, nobody in his right mind would attempt a lawsuit for that,
> and I strongly doubt any judge would even let a trial happen.
Why not just have our theoretical moderator stick in the
charter that he accepts posts by his/her discretion, and
maybe that would dissuade potential lawsuits...
--
---------------------------------------------------
Pat Gunn, moderator:comp.sys.newton.announce
comoderator:comp.os.os2.moderated
"You can always judge a man by the quality of his enemies." -- Dr Who
http://junior.apk.net/~qc
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 09:30:34 GMT
From: bart.mediamind@tornado.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Putting CPAN on a CD: good or not good?
Message-Id: <35a82e05.5198706@news.tornado.be>
brian d foy wrote:
> * i probably don't have the right to say no (or anything else ) if
> i used the Perl Artistic License:
>
> 1. You may make and give away verbatim copies of
> the source form of the Standard Version of this
> Package without restriction, provided that you
> duplicate all of the original copyright notices
> and associated disclaimers.
Let me stress "give away". I wouldn't think "sell" quite fits this
description.
Bart.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 09:30:29 GMT
From: bart.mediamind@tornado.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: question about objects
Message-Id: <35a724cc.2837700@news.tornado.be>
Tye McQueen wrote:
>Why turn off the warning when you can fix what it is warning about.
Because sometimes, the behaviour is correct, but you get a warning, and
by fixing it, it's wrong.
There have been examples posted in this thread, I think. One involves
getting rid of a "variable used only once" warning, which got fixed by
adding a "my" statement. Unfortunately, this changed the behaviour from
using a global variable, as was intended, into a local (sortof).
Urm... what does this all have to do with objects? ;-)
Bart.
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 12:59:00 +0200
From: Janning Vygen <vygen@uni-duesseldorf.de>
Subject: Reading virtmaps.db with perl
Message-Id: <35A74574.44DBCE3@uni-duesseldorf.de>
How can i read/write virtmaps.db or alias.db with perl.
Which database format does sendmail use to create those files
(NDBM, SDBM, ...)?
Greetings Janning
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Date: 11 Jul 1998 06:13:50 GMT
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: redux, step 1 (was Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce)
Message-Id: <6o6vqu$e67$1@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
In comp.lang.perl.misc,
pjfarley@banet.net (Peter J. Farley III) writes:
:Resume's are even wormier. But if you allow postings, resume's are a
:natural concommitant.
No. Just no.
--tom
--
*bp++ = i; /* now go back to screaming loop */
--Larry Wall, from perl/sv.c in the v5.0 perl distribution
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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:32:30 +0100
From: "F.Quednau" <quednauf@nortel.co.uk>
Subject: Re: redux, step 1 (was Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce)
Message-Id: <35A75B5E.4B5B65DC@nortel.co.uk>
Randal Schwartz wrote:
>
> So, that makes the two major issues I see to be:
>
> commercial posts accepted? (if so, labled)
> "non-programmer" posts accepted? (if so, labled)
Agreed, please proceed.
Will we actually see things like new Perlmongers group in Guatemala, Perl coffee afternoon
in Venice, etc...?
What I mean is: How is the information actually carried to you, and do you actually know
what is happening Perl-wise in Europe?
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