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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 3109 Volume: 8
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 98 14:00:32 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Thu, 9 Jul 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 3109
Today's topics:
Re: -- Abigail, my sink is clogged (Abigail)
Re: -w on production code (was Re: better way of gettin (Alan Barclay)
Re: Bar and Line Charts in Perl (Bill Totten)
Re: Can PERL RENAME a user account on an NT workstation <dontspamme@dontspam.com>
Re: Changing password with perl-skript (Abigail)
Re: Choosing DBMS: friendly to Linux, Apache, Perl, Jav <MATTHEW_HOUSEMAN@Non-HP-USA-om42.om.hp.com>
Re: Copying a file from one server to another <spamfree@yahoo.com>
Error: compiling PERL 5.004 <N.Douchev@iaea.org>
Re: FREE Shopping Cart jmsmith@iminet.com
Re: FREE Shopping Cart jmsmith@iminet.com
Re: getting hostname and ip addr when you don't have ei (brian d foy)
Re: Getting Yesterday's Date (brian d foy)
Re: grep lines from log file by date. (Craig Berry)
Re: grep lines from log file by date. (Mike Stok)
Re: HELP about cgi (brian d foy)
Re: Help, OLE is giving me a hard time. (Jan Dubois)
Re: Indexing servers (brian d foy)
memphis area perl hackers? (Brock Sides)
Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announ (David Adler)
Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announ <dgris@rand.dimensional.com>
Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announ (Alan Schwartz)
Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announ <dgris@rand.dimensional.com>
Re: Password script (brian d foy)
PERL and HL-7/Healthcare <crockett@uic.edu>
Re: Perl based Web-to-database system (brian d foy)
Re: perl cgi and Java <abaugher@rnet.com>
Perl Visual Debugger for Win32 <mark.pearson@gs.com>
Problem using struct sigaction in Perl XS (Craig Anderson)
Re: Randomize number between -0.5 and 0.5 <johannes@cymes.de>
Re: Removing the ^M character <ryan@secretshopnet.com>
Re: Silly things to do in Perl (or: is that Laptop wate <spamfree@yahoo.com>
Re: Simple (?) Perl maths question <jhi@alpha.hut.fi>
Substitution question <tomko@xnet.com>
Re: Substitution question <ryan@secretshopnet.com>
Re: Substitution question (Craig Berry)
using a variable only once <falkenl@hotmail.com>
Re: Where is perldoc? (Patrick Timmins)
Why no constants of form: _CONSTANTNAME ? (Greg L. Chapman)
Re: y2k (I R A Aggie)
Re: y2k (Abigail)
Re: y2k (Chris Adams)
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Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:03:54 GMT
From: abigail@fnx.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: -- Abigail, my sink is clogged
Message-Id: <6o37na$i13$1@client3.news.psi.net>
Chris Russo (news@russo.org) wrote on MDCCLXXIII September MCMXCIII in
<URL: news:news-0907980844150001@buzz.hq.alink.net>:
Get yourself a new home.
Abigail
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Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:20:36 GMT
From: gorilla@elaine.drink.com (Alan Barclay)
Subject: Re: -w on production code (was Re: better way of getting the last modified file?)
Message-Id: <900015627.577625@elaine.drink.com>
In article <ltk95n7u24.fsf@asfast.com>, Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> wrote:
>On NPGE - V, Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> writes:
>> Just think of it as "two perls in one". :-)
>
>In an earlier message, I wondered if perhaps one of the reasons for
>the non-manditoriness and non-defaultness of `-w' might be because of
>a possible difference of opinion about it among the Perl developers.
>I guess that this is indeed the case.
>
Why not keep everyone happy, and make a -W option, for no-warnings,
and make it a compile time option if -w or -W is the default.
People who want warnings can add -w to their script
People who don't want warnings can add -W to their scripts
People who don't care leave their scripts alone
Perl installers who want warnings on by default can enable default -w
Perl installers who don't want warnings on by default can disable default -w
If you're on a system where you didn't install perl, and aren't happy
with the default, and don't want to change all your scripts, then you
can add -w or -W to PERL5OPT
Any problems with this approach?
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Date: 9 Jul 1998 15:51:06 -0400
From: biell @ udel . edu (Bill Totten)
Subject: Re: Bar and Line Charts in Perl
Message-Id: <6o36va$1vk$1@copland.udel.edu>
In article <01bdaac6$2800a7a0$bfa084a9@xxxchjb>,
Jim Babbington <jwb79@mail.idt.net> wrote:
<...>
>Let me give you some background....
>I have an application that, based on query results stipulated by the WWW
>user, should produce a graph (hbar). I was able to do this in 5 minutes of
>code under Apache/Solaris using gnuplot, however, my knuckle headed
>management made me convert to NT running NS Enterprise Server. I never
>could get gnuplot to work correctly under NT (I blame the NT by default,
>cuz
>it worked under unix). Eventually, as more users complained about not
<...>
Gnuplot3.5 compilied almost right out of the box for me under
cygwin32 B19. All I had to do was add '#include <float.h>' to a
bunch of files, add '--unix' to a call to make in the configure
script, comment out the call to 'autoconf' in the generated Makefile,
and declare an integer which it could not find during link-time (that
may cause problems after all, but it seems to work) in one of the
source files.
All the demo's worked --including the 3d animated digitized blue whale--
*except* contour#24. Which means your stuff should also work.
If you cannot get it to compile, mail me and I will send you the
binaries.
--
Totten, William David (Bill) Computer and Information Science Major
totten @ pobox . com University of Delaware (Newark, DE; USA)
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 12:12:41 -0700
From: Jessie Indracusin <dontspamme@dontspam.com>
Subject: Re: Can PERL RENAME a user account on an NT workstation?
Message-Id: <35A51629.79D8AAF6@dontspam.com>
I found WIN32::ADMINMISC command that RenameUser().
Jessie Indracusin wrote:
> I know how to delete and add users, I have the NTRESKIT and am looking
> for a way of doing this through a Perl script.
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Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:17:13 GMT
From: abigail@fnx.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Changing password with perl-skript
Message-Id: <6o38g9$i7p$1@client3.news.psi.net>
Oliver Schoenwald (oliver.schoenwald@fernuni-hagen.de) wrote on
MDCCLXXIII September MCMXCIII in <URL: news:35A4DCAB.C52FA3FD@fernuni-hagen.de>:
++ Hello!
++
++ How can I change a user's password under unix (solaris 2.5.1)
++ using a perl-script? When using the passwd-command, this programm
++ asks for the old an two times the new password. How can the
++ perl-script handle this interaction? Or is there a better
++ solution? Any functioning example would be welcome!
system "passwd";
Abigail
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 12:24:07 -0700
From: Matt Houseman <MATTHEW_HOUSEMAN@Non-HP-USA-om42.om.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Choosing DBMS: friendly to Linux, Apache, Perl, Java
Message-Id: <35A518D7.1B43@Non-HP-USA-om42.om.hp.com>
Your best bet to create a robust app is to choose InterBase given
the choices available right now for Linux. Have a look at:
http://www.interbase.com (Lots of downloadable software for Linux)
I think that you'll find that it meets all of your criteria:
- RedHat
- IBPerl
- InterClient JDBC driver
Matt Houseman
gordo@pclink.com wrote:
>
> I know that this question probably doesn't have a simple answer, and in
> fact I probably need lots of help just to formulate a better question,
> and maybe I'm not asking in the right place, either.... Anyway, here
> goes.
>
> I am just in the process of setting up Apache 1.3 on a small Linux (home
> office) server running RedHat 5.1. I need a database backend for Apache
> and other uses, including Java and CORBA code and data repository. I
> use Perl for most work so it's a plus if there already is a DBD module
> out there for the database.
>
> I would like to use Oracle because that's my normal working environment at
> clients' but at $1000+ the cost is hard to justify, plus AFAIK Oracle doesn't
> run on Linux (yet). So I'm looking for a less costly database that wouldn't
> hamstring me if I eventually needed to move to a more capable system or even
> to Oracle itself. And I must admit, I want the best one!:-) Am I just
> kidding myself to think that such exists for Linux? There seems to be a
> plethora of products out there.
>
> Database need not be free of cost or licensing restrictions. Closer to
> ANSI-92(?) is better and probably closer to Oracle 7.3 is even better though
> I suppose that's a dream--until I started digging into this I didn't realize
> just how proprietary much of Oracle's working and development environment is.
>
> Thanks in advance for your opinions.
> --
> Gordon Pedersen 1412 Portland Ave
> info systems design Saint Paul, Minnesota
> gordo@pclink.com 55104, USA
>
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:40:57 -0400
From: Dave Bushong <spamfree@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Copying a file from one server to another
Message-Id: <35A51CC7.89785F0@yahoo.com>
Usman Ul Haq wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is anyone outhere have a perl script that copies files from one server
> to another.
>
Yes. If you can find it, look on page 31 of The Perl Journal, Autumn
1996, in the article "FTP: File Transfer Using Perl", specifically
regarding the PASV command. There is, of course, some mention of it in
FTP.pm, but a sample program appears in TPJ.
Regards,
Dave
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 21:56:27 +0200
From: Nikolay Douchev <N.Douchev@iaea.org>
Subject: Error: compiling PERL 5.004
Message-Id: <35A5206A.AB4ACB0E@iaea.org>
Hello all,
while trying to compile PERL 5.004 on AIX, more precisely during linking
I get the following error message:
--------------------
The Unsupported function umask function is unimplemented at
../../lib/ExtUtils/I
nstall.pm line 247.
make: 1254-004 The error code from the last command is 2.
Stop.
make: 1254-004 The error code from the last command is 2.
------------------
Does anybody know what could be the reason for that?
Any hint will be gratefully appreciated.
Thanx in advance,
Nikolay
N.Douchev@iaea.org
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:33:55 GMT
From: jmsmith@iminet.com
Subject: Re: FREE Shopping Cart
Message-Id: <6o35v4$2kd$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <359BBCDA.D5893C42@inlink.com>,
perlguy@technologist.com wrote:
>
> If it is REALLY free, would YOU trust them with your credit card and
> personal information?????
>
> Brent
>
It's running on a secure server. Why not?
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:40:54 GMT
From: jmsmith@iminet.com
Subject: Re: FREE Shopping Cart
Message-Id: <6o36c6$3la$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <6ngma0$cr1$1@news.ycc.yale.edu>,
mnc@diana.law.yale.edu (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>
> In article <6ng6m3$pa6$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, <veronica@iminet.com> wrote:
> >spam spam spam
>
> If using the internet for 12 years (especially the last three years) has
> taught me anything at all, it is that nobody is actually named Veronica, and
> if there were, she would sit around in my living room all day long trying to
> get me to visit filthy web sites.
>
> miguel
>
Hehe...that's pretty funny, but Veronica really exists. And she's giving away
free Shopping Carts...not selling porn...sorry!
Murray
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:27:53 -0400
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: getting hostname and ip addr when you don't have either
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R0907981527530001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker
In article <6o119m$n86$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, chrisoc@ans.net posted:
>What is the easiest and most platform-independent way to
>get the current hostname and IP address from inside a Perl
>script, when you don't have either one?
the current hostname of what?
for the local machine, you might try Sys::Hostname.
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:19:57 -0400
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Getting Yesterday's Date
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R0907981519570001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker
In article <35a4cb3a.39048555@nntp.idsonline.com>, root.noharvest.\@not_even\here.com posted:
>Just use Selena Sol's date.pl
using a supported module on CPAN is a Good Thing.
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Date: 9 Jul 1998 19:35:48 GMT
From: cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
Subject: Re: grep lines from log file by date.
Message-Id: <6o362l$ptm$1@marina.cinenet.net>
infomancer@my-dejanews.com wrote:
: Hello, I am trying to grep lines from a log file between certain dates. Each
: line is dated in the format: 09/Jul/1998:12:01:13. How would I grab the lines
: between say Jul 2 and July 15 without reading in variables and a lot of
: processing. Some of my logs are over 30 megs! Thanks for any help!
Doing it without reading in variables is asking a bit much. I fear you'll
have to wait for the Mind::Read module, to be bundled with Perl 6.
Seriously, I doubt you can do much better for a general solution than:
1. Grab each line.
2. Parse off the date part by (e.g.) splitting on /:/.
3. Use (e.g.) Date::Manip to compare that date to your range.
4. Output the record if in range.
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Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:41:06 GMT
From: mike@stok.co.uk (Mike Stok)
Subject: Re: grep lines from log file by date.
Message-Id: <6o39t2$rhh@news-central.tiac.net>
In article <6o30v7$pr8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
<infomancer@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>Hello, I am trying to grep lines from a log file between certain dates. Each
>line is dated in the format: 09/Jul/1998:12:01:13. How would I grab the lines
>between say Jul 2 and July 15 without reading in variables and a lot of
>processing. Some of my logs are over 30 megs! Thanks for any help!
You'll have to read the data but you can toss a lot out if you do
something like:
while (<F>) {
next unless m@^(\d\d)/Jul/1998:@ && $1 >= 2 && $1 <= 15;
# process $_
}
(assuming the date's at the beginning of the line)
If you know the log file was generated in chronological order then you
could stop reading the file once you've seen the 16th crop up.
Hope this helps,
Mike
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:04:27 -0400
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: HELP about cgi
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R0907981504270001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker
In article <01bdab54$85014f20$LocalHost@matteo>, "Matteo" <matteo@gate2000.com> posted:
>Hi, I'm Matteo from Italy.
>
>I wrote a cgi program with perl to send multiple mails using:
>Print "to: address@domain.com\n";
>Print "from: address@domain.com\n";
>and so on
>
>how to attach a file?
see the Mail modules at CPAN.
good luck :)
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 22:08:25 +0200
From: jan.dubois@ibm.net (Jan Dubois)
Subject: Re: Help, OLE is giving me a hard time.
Message-Id: <35a510c6.1796242@news2.ibm.net>
[mailed & posted]
mad_ahmad@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>Hi, No one answered my last posting much to my dismay. please help me.
You only posted it yesterday. Have a little more patience (or read the
documentation).
>i'm still haveing problems grabbing a certain range from an Excel spreadsheet
>and storing it in a Perl array object.
>so far this is what i've got:
>
>$cella = $comparesheet->Cells(2,$j)->{'Address'};
>$cellb = $comparesheet->Cells(42,$j)->{'Address'};
>@ourcolumn = $comparesheet->Range("$cella:$cellb")->{'Value'};
>
>from this code, all i get is an array with it's first element being the memory
>address of an array appearantly (something like ARRAY(off2338e)).
>when i do:
>print @$ourcolumn;
Please recheck your knowledge about references. The code above returns a
reference to an array. For ActiveState Perl 3xx you should write it as:
$ourcolumn = $comparesheet->Range("$cella:$cellb")->{Value};
print join("\n", @$ourcolumn), "\n";
If you use a later version of the Win32::OLE module then the code
actually returns a two dimensional array (list of lists) because you
retrieve a column vector and not a row vector. You can flatten it with
foreach (@$ourcolumn) { $_ = @$_[0]; }
print join("\n", @$ourcolumn), "\n";
or you access elements like @$ourcolumn[0][$index]
-Jan
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:41:22 -0400
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Indexing servers
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R0907981541220001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker
[you need to fix your wrapping problem]
In article <01bdaac3$6d54f1b0$bfa084a9@xxxchjb>, "Jim Babbington" <jwb79@mail.idt.net> posted:
>$search="flamers";
>opendir(DOCDIR,"html/") || die "error opening dir";
>while(readdir(DOCDIR)) {
> if(/\.html$/i) { push(@docfiles,$_) }
> }
>while($search_doc = pop(@docfiles) {
> $next_doc = 0; # we have to be carfull when doing opens within a while
>nest
> open(TEMP,"<$search_doc") || die "somtheing went terribly wrong!!";
> while(<TEMP>) {
> if($next_doc) { next } # need we look further?
> if(/$$search/i) {
> print "<a href=\"$search_doc\">$_</a><hr>";
> $next_doc = 1; # we're done here
> next;
> }
> close(TEMP); # don't leave this out!!
> }
>}
>
>This is lightweight and should work on any platform (it's wise to cross
>your
>fingers when using NT).
>(note to Brian: No, I've never done this before,
>either.)
obviously.
you didn't even try to compile this did you? why not wait until
the code can compile correctly before posting it?
and, are you even sure that it does what you think it does? that
if(/$$search/i) looks unintended.
why all the $next_doc stuff? how about labeled loops which would
make things much more clear?
...and so on and so on...
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:17:10 -0500
From: opus@magibox.net (Brock Sides)
Subject: memphis area perl hackers?
Message-Id: <opus-0907981517100001@dave.magibox.net>
Any Perl hackers in the memphis area that might be interested in forming a
local Perl Mongers group?
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Date: 9 Jul 1998 19:11:58 GMT
From: dha@panix.com (David Adler)
Subject: Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce
Message-Id: <6o34lu$b7a@news1.panix.com>
On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:01:23 GMT, Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote:
>But we're still mostly where I started. I now see convincing
>arguments on both sides to permit "commercial" postings. Is it even
>possible to come to a consensus about this? And if not, should I just
>err on too little, or too much?
Well, this is just a preliminary thought...
I think what's important is the distinction between a message with
commercial underpinnings and, well, a commercial. Ads, per se, should
not be allowed, I think. Something like TPC or something in TPJ
should - they are entirely perl related, i. e. it is their reason
d'etre. The real problem comes in the middle ground... and this is
where the "preliminary" nature of this post, mentioned above, really
shines... :-) I don't have an answer yet, but I'm working on it.
Also, I think Randal is a fine moderator and think he's making too
much of the competition issue (IMHO, of course).
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Cunningham house?" - mst3k
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 20:26:21 GMT
From: Daniel Grisinger <dgris@rand.dimensional.com>
Subject: Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce
Message-Id: <6o38a4$8bl$1@rand.dimensional.com>
[posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and mailed to the cited author]
In article <8c90m3dsyj.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com>
Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote:
>But we're still mostly where I started. I now see convincing
>arguments on both sides to permit "commercial" postings. Is it even
>possible to come to a consensus about this? And if not, should I just
>err on too little, or too much?
The real issue is what the purpose of clpa should be. Should it be
a general clearing house for all things perl related, or should it
be a resource for announcements of things that will help perl programmers
program perl (wow, this thread has been great for alliteration :-).
Note that neither of these has anything whatsoever to do with whether
a product is commercial, proprietary, open-source, electronic, printed,
or anything else. But whatever charter is decided upon should be
based upon one of these philosophies and then consistently enforced.
Personally, I think that it should be for the programmers, not for
the language.
That said, I understand and sympathize with the view that clpa should
be devoted to perl in general and not just to any particular task
related to perl.
If most people feel that we (the people that use perl) are best served
by using clpa as a forum for anything related to perl, I can live with
that, even if it doesn't match my personal biases :-).
Regards,
Daniel
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"No kings, no presidents, just a rough consensus and
running code."
Dave Clark
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Date: 9 Jul 1998 19:44:35 GMT
From: alansz@araw.mede.uic.edu (Alan Schwartz)
Subject: Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce
Message-Id: <6o36j3$2c1o$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu>
Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> writes:
>>>>>> "brian" == brian moore <bem@news.cmc.net> writes:
>
>brian> (Which is what lead clpa to where it is: the charter forbade Randal
>brian> from using Wisdom to post things that should go there. Further
>brian> lets-write-an-all-encompasing-charter rules will lead to things not
>brian> being posted, even if it should be.)
>
>But we're still mostly where I started. I now see convincing
>arguments on both sides to permit "commercial" postings. Is it even
>possible to come to a consensus about this? And if not, should I just
>err on too little, or too much?
I'd suggest tagging commerical postings with 'AD:' or something in
the subject line, enabling those who wish to killfile appropriately,
and then permit commercial postings that are relevant to perl
programmers (i.e., stuff *for* perl or *about* perl, not simply *in* perl),
erring permissively.
- Alan
[ Please don't cc replies ]
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Asst. Prof. of Clinical Decision Making | University of Illinois at Chicago
Adj. Asst. Prof. of Psychology | Department of Medical Education
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans"
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 20:44:48 GMT
From: Daniel Grisinger <dgris@rand.dimensional.com>
Subject: Re: new charter and moderator for comp.lang.perl.announce
Message-Id: <6o39fd$8ci$1@rand.dimensional.com>
[posted to comp.lang.perl.misc and mailed to the cited author]
In article <5qg1gb2e3u.fsf@prometheus.frii.com>
Nathan Torkington <gnat@frii.com> wrote:
>The problem is that I want to allow small-time commercial stuff
>through. I want the people making Perl editors, Perl debuggers,
>scientific visualization tools, all that fun stuff, to have a place to
>announce their software. They're interesting, they may be useful to
>the community, and I think they should be encouraged.
There you go, making up all sorts of interesting examples that I _would_
want to see (gosh, some people :-). Of course, with the possible
exception of the visualization tools, all of those would be on-charter
regardless of which charter ideal we accepted.
> I know that I have used
>programs that I heard about in comp.lang.perl.announce, either
>directly or by reading and adapting the code in them. They made my
>life much easier. That's the great thing about interpreted source
>languages.
Yes, I have cannibalized, hacked apart, and otherwise manipulated
lots of code that I learned of through clpa and I agree that this
is a Good Thing[tm]. I just want to find some way to keep what is
announced of relevance to most perl programmers. The only way
I see to do this is only allow announcements of things that will
be used for programming perl.
This does not preclude scripts from being posted. It may, however,
preclude scripts that don't get uploaded to CPAN from being posted,
but I think that's a good idea.
>Would it make your life easier if such things were tagged on the
>subject line with [SCRIPT]? That way you could killfile them and
>would never need to see them.
Yes, this would help very much and (presuming a decent classification
system) could possibly overcome my objections.
Regards,
Daniel
--
Daniel Grisinger dgris@perrin.dimensional.com
"No kings, no presidents, just a rough consensus and
running code."
Dave Clark
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:06:28 -0400
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Password script
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R0907981506280001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker
In article <6o2p42$8k1$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, rpearce@my-dejanews.com posted:
>In article <35a18936.1650343@dub-news.tpgi.com.au>,
> mail@moggy.com (Bee Pee) wrote:
>>
>> I'm lookin for a password script (free one preferrably) which will
>> protect a bunch of directories (not necessarily in the same root dir).
>>
>Use .htaccess built in to unix.
my unix doesn't have that feature.
--
brian d foy <comdog@computerdog.com>
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------------------------------
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:42:45 -0500
From: "Mark D. Crockett, MD" <crockett@uic.edu>
Subject: PERL and HL-7/Healthcare
Message-Id: <6o331i$2j9e$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu>
Anyone out there have experience using hl-7 with PERL? Please contact me
via e-mail at tox911@safeplace.net
Mark D. Crockett
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:17:55 -0400
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Perl based Web-to-database system
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R0907981517550001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker
In article <NL5p1.162$oF1.4606104@news.rdc1.ct.home.com>, "Joe Junkin" <jjunkin@datacrawler.com> posted:
>Hello all, I am the lead developer for a Perl-based Web Database
>application.
>
>I am posting this message to try and gain feedback and comments on our Data
>Crawler web-to-database application (www.datacrawler.com).
from <URL:http://www.datacrawler.com/download.html>
Data Crawler runs as a CGI process under a web server running on
Windows NT(r) or 95/98.
It has only been tested on Microsoft Internet Information Server
3/4 and PWS.
nope. not interested.
--
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------------------------------
Date: 09 Jul 1998 13:35:55 -0500
From: Aaron Baugher <abaugher@rnet.com>
Subject: Re: perl cgi and Java
Message-Id: <m2oguyq3ck.fsf@haruchai.rnet.com>
Mike Schnorr <mschnorr@eeyore.stcloudstate.nospam.edu> writes:
> I am attempting to write a perl CGI script which prints out a bunch
> of HTML stuff, then calls a java program which prints out a bunch
> more stuff, and then the perl script should print out some more HTML
> stuff. This is all supposed to end up in a pretty little web page.
> When run under netscape I get a server error, and yes I do put out
> the right header line and my perl code is executable and all that
> good stuff (I'm not a complete idiot).
Why don't you let us be the judge of that? (Just kidding! :-)
Seriously, though, turning off your brain-dead newsreader's desire to
duplicate your posts in HTML will help your cause tremendously.
Anyway, when a CGI script works from a command line but not through
the web server, the problem 99% of the time is with permissions or
environment. In this case, my first guess would be that the CLASSPATH
variable isn't set. If you have root access, try running the script
as the same user as the web browser:
su - nobody -c script.cgi
See what that does. Also, in your Perl code, make sure you check the
result of your system call, and keep an eye on the server's error log.
--
Aaron Baugher - abaugher@rnet.com
Extreme Systems Consulting - http://haruchai.rnet.com/esc/
CGI, Perl, Java, and Linux/Unix Administration
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:40:32 -0400
From: "Mark Pearson" <mark.pearson@gs.com>
Subject: Perl Visual Debugger for Win32
Message-Id: <6o39s2$g1m5@nbcppsw01.wan.gs.com>
Does anyone have a registered version of this wonderful utility, or even a
registration code?
------------------------------
Date: 9 Jul 1998 19:37:51 GMT
From: csa@transmeta.com (Craig Anderson)
Subject: Problem using struct sigaction in Perl XS
Message-Id: <6o366f$1an$1@palladium.transmeta.com>
I'm attempting to write a small Perl XS module that mucks with
signals. I'm using struct sigaction under Linux 2.x.
In my code I have:
MODULE = Mytest PACKAGE = Mytest
void
alarm_norestart()
struct sigaction act
CODE:
...
but this gets turned into:
XS(XS_Mytest_alarm_norestart)
{
dXSARGS;
if (items != 0)
croak("Usage: Mytest::alarm_norestart()");
{
struct sigaction;
i.e. I've lost the 'act', which means I get a undeclared
variable message when I tried to use it.
How do I fix this?
Please respond to csa@transmeta.com - I don't read
this group.
Thanks,
Craig Anderson
csa@transmeta.com
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 20:47:56 +0200
From: Johannes Kanefendt <johannes@cymes.de>
To: Huang <wong2020@tm.net.my>
Subject: Re: Randomize number between -0.5 and 0.5
Message-Id: <35A5105C.48E66B02@cymes.de>
Huang wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I have wrote the segments of codes to randomized number between 0
> and 0.1
>
> What I wish to accomplish is between -0.5 and 0.5. Can you help me
> on this? Thanks.
>
> $randnum = ( rand (1));
> if ($randnum >=0.1) {
> $randnum = ($randnum)/10;}
$randnum = rand(1)-.5; ????????
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 20:23:34 GMT
From: Ryan Gendron <ryan@secretshopnet.com>
Subject: Re: Removing the ^M character
Message-Id: <35A5274B.4A88952B@secretshopnet.com>
Try:
$line =~ s/\cM$//;
mikane@shell3.ba.best.com wrote:
> I am having trouble removing the ^M character from the end of a line.
>
> I have tried
>
> $line=~s/\r\n$//;
> $line=s/\r$//;
> $line=s/\n$//;
>
> neither is working for me.
>
> Is there another method?
>
> I want to keep carriage returns within $line and delete the trailing.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 16:38:04 -0400
From: Dave Bushong <spamfree@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Silly things to do in Perl (or: is that Laptop waterproof?)
Message-Id: <35A52A2A.A70A5D7D@yahoo.com>
F.Quednau wrote:
> $marker = shift;
> $what = $marker eq "morse" ? "morse_to_alphabet" : "alphabet_to_morse";
>
> $morse{a} = ".-"; $morse{q} = "--.-";$morse{6} = "--...";
> $morse{b} = "-...";$morse{r} = ".-."; $morse{7} = "---..";
> $morse{c} = "-.-.";$morse{s} = "..."; $morse{8} = "----.";
> $morse{d} = "-.."; $morse{t} = "-"; $morse{9} = "----.";
> $morse{e} = "."; $morse{u} = "..-"; $morse{' '} = "*";
> $morse{f} = "..-.";$morse{v} = "...-";
> $morse{g} = "--."; $morse{w} = ".--";
> $morse{h} = "....";$morse{x} = "-..-";
> $morse{i} = ".."; $morse{y} = "-.--";
> $morse{j} = ".---";$morse{z} = "--..";
> $morse{k} = "-.-"; $morse{0} = "-----";
> $morse{l} = ".-..";$morse{1} = ".----";
> $morse{m} = "--"; $morse{2} = "..---";
> $morse{n} = "-."; $morse{3} = "....-";
> $morse{o} = "---"; $morse{4} = ".....";
> $morse{p} = ".--.";$morse{5} = "-....";
I haven't tried your code (so to speak) but your Morse is off. The numeral "5" is
five dits ("....."),so in your hash, you have 5 as 6, 6 as 7, 7 as 8, 8 and 9 as
9.
I would also suggest that you do something like $morse{a} = "didah", since when
you read it out loud it sounds like Morse code sounds.
Here is a brute force conversion program, originally from Dave Jenkins'
tomorsedi.sed program, then converted with s2p and trimmed ever-so-slightly:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
while (<>) {
$_ = lc $_;
chomp;
s/-/_/g;
s/\./\.-\.-\.- /g;
s/\$/\.\.\.-\.\.- /g;
s/\?/\.\.--\.\. /g;
s/_/\.\.--\.- /g;
s/"/\.-\.\.-\. /g;
s/\(period\)/\.-\.-\.- /g;
s/'/\.----\. /g;
s/\(dash\)/-\.\.\.\.- /g;
s/;/-\.-\.-\. /g;
s/\)/-\.--\.- /g;
s/,/--\.\.-- /g;
s/:/---\.\.\. /g;
s/5/\.\.\.\.\. /g;
s/4/\.\.\.\.- /g;
s/3/\.\.\.-- /g;
s/2/\.\.--- /g;
s/\+/\.-\.-\. /g;
s/1/\.---- /g;
s/6/-\.\.\.\. /g;
s/=/-\.\.\.- /g;
s/\//-\.\.-\. /g;
s/\\/-\.\.-\. /g;
s/\(/-\.--\. /g;
s/7/--\.\.\. /g;
s/8/---\.\. /g;
s/9/----\. /g;
s/0/----- /g;
s/h/\.\.\.\. /g;
s/v/\.\.\.- /g;
s/f/\.\.-\. /g;
s/l/\.-\.\. /g;
s/p/\.--\. /g;
s/j/\.--- /g;
s/b/-\.\.\. /g;
s/x/-\.\.- /g;
s/c/-\.-\. /g;
s/y/-\.-- /g;
s/z/--\.\. /g;
s/q/--\.- /g;
s/s/\.\.\. /g;
s/u/\.\.- /g;
s/r/\.-\. /g;
s/w/\.-- /g;
s/d/-\.\. /g;
s/k/-\.- /g;
s/g/--\. /g;
s/o/--- /g;
s/i/\.\. /g;
s/a/\.- /g;
s/n/-\. /g;
s/m/-- /g;
s/e/\. /g;
s/t/- /g;
# and, if you want the conversion to sound, ...
s/\./dit/g;
s/-/dah/g;
s/td/d/g;
print;
}
------------------------------
Date: 09 Jul 1998 22:28:01 +0300
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi <jhi@alpha.hut.fi>
Subject: Re: Simple (?) Perl maths question
Message-Id: <oeebtqyu8n2.fsf@alpha.hut.fi>
simsi@my-dejanews.com writes:
> Hi all,
>
> Can anyone kindly help with a small problem. I have a number
> (1.67796100340829e-16) which i need to represent in everday normal terms in a
Well, how *do* you represent such tiny numbers in everyday normal terms?
Such tiny numbers perhaps are part of some physicists' "everyday", but
not for the rest of us. In other words: what do you mean? What do you want?
> Perl app? I have been informed that some Math functions in perl are not 100%
> reliable and this app is mission critical so i can't afford that.
--
$jhi++; # http://www.iki.fi/~jhi/
# There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'.
# It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen
------------------------------
Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:26:08 GMT
From: Paul Tomko <tomko@xnet.com>
Subject: Substitution question
Message-Id: <6o3910$8l7$1@flood.xnet.com>
Hi,
I have been using Perl only sporadically, so I am not an expert. I
am having trouble trying to find a simple way to do the following:
I would like to find all instances of a pattern in a search string regardless
of case and I want to replace that pattern with a prelude, the original
matching pattern, and then a postlude.
In other words given the pattern "blah", I would like to change
"BLAH de Blah blAH" to "xxxBLAHyyy de xxxBlahyyy xxxblAHyyy".
I can do 's /blah/xxxblahyyy/gi' but this changes all of them to lower
case, and I want to preserve case.
Another way would be to get the location of each substring and do an
insert before and after each occurrence of a match. But this seems like
overkill for a language which so lends itself to scripting. Does anyone
have a suggestion?
Thanks,
Paul
--
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| President | Bolingbrook, Illinois 60440 |
| Tomko Consulting, Incorporated | (630) 759-8799 |
| tomko@xnet.com | http://www.tomkoinc.com |
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 20:33:10 GMT
From: Ryan Gendron <ryan@secretshopnet.com>
Subject: Re: Substitution question
Message-Id: <35A52988.DAB044AC@secretshopnet.com>
Hi Paul
try:
$string =~ s/(test)/XXX$1XXX/gi;
Paul Tomko wrote:
> Hi,
> I have been using Perl only sporadically, so I am not an expert. I
> am having trouble trying to find a simple way to do the following:
>
> I would like to find all instances of a pattern in a search string regardless
> of case and I want to replace that pattern with a prelude, the original
> matching pattern, and then a postlude.
>
> In other words given the pattern "blah", I would like to change
> "BLAH de Blah blAH" to "xxxBLAHyyy de xxxBlahyyy xxxblAHyyy".
>
> I can do 's /blah/xxxblahyyy/gi' but this changes all of them to lower
> case, and I want to preserve case.
>
> Another way would be to get the location of each substring and do an
> insert before and after each occurrence of a match. But this seems like
> overkill for a language which so lends itself to scripting. Does anyone
> have a suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
> --
> | Paul Tomko | P.O. Box 1382 |
> | President | Bolingbrook, Illinois 60440 |
> | Tomko Consulting, Incorporated | (630) 759-8799 |
> | tomko@xnet.com | http://www.tomkoinc.com |
------------------------------
Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:31:08 GMT
From: cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
Subject: Re: Substitution question
Message-Id: <6o39ac$ptm$2@marina.cinenet.net>
Paul Tomko (tomko@xnet.com) wrote:
: I would like to find all instances of a pattern in a search string regardless
: of case and I want to replace that pattern with a prelude, the original
: matching pattern, and then a postlude.
:
: In other words given the pattern "blah", I would like to change
: "BLAH de Blah blAH" to "xxxBLAHyyy de xxxBlahyyy xxxblAHyyy".
s/(blah)/xxx$1yyy/gi;
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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"Every man and every woman is a star."
------------------------------
Date: 9 Jul 1998 19:57:47 GMT
From: "Lee Falkenhagen" <falkenl@hotmail.com>
Subject: using a variable only once
Message-Id: <01bdab73$dae87ca0$915c5093@lfalkenhagen.dhs.state.tx.us>
In my main program, I declare several global variables such as
$::CURDAY = "4/1/98";
If I do not use that variable anywhere else in the main program, but, do
use it in a function I call, I get the following error:
Name "main::CURDAY" used only once: possible typo at ./irsbatch.pl line 35.
Is there a way to get rid of this error?
--
Lee Falkenhagen
Certified Sybase DBA
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:38:23 GMT
From: ptimmins@netserv.unmc.edu (Patrick Timmins)
Subject: Re: Where is perldoc?
Message-Id: <6o367f$3b2$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <35a4e4c7.693961303@news.mr.net>,
Scott.L.Erickson@HealthPartners.com (Scott Erickson) wrote:
>
> I have seen many references to something called perldoc, yet, I have
> never found this program and I am unable to call it from the Unix
> command line. Am I misunderstanding how it is to be used? Where is
> this app normally placed?
>
> Scott.
>
On a Unix machine, you may be in a shell that doesn't know where to look for
executables. Check with your super-user (root) or poke around yourself ...
try a 'which perl' and see where perl is (you do have perl on your system,
I'm assuming). perldoc should be in the same directory as perl, so you could
then set up an alias in your shell configuration file (your .cshrc or .tcshrc
or whatever), eg: alias perldoc '/usr/local/bin/perldoc'
Hope that helps.
Patrick Timmins
U. Nebraska Medical Center
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:05:19 GMT
From: glc@well.com (Greg L. Chapman)
Subject: Why no constants of form: _CONSTANTNAME ?
Message-Id: <6o349f$9su@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>
constants.pm (through version 5.004_66) explicitly disallows constant names
beginning with underscores. This seems to me needlessly restrictive. Is there
a reason for it?
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:35:32 -0500
From: fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: y2k
Message-Id: <fl_aggie-0907981535320001@aggie.coaps.fsu.edu>
In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980709103533.18394B-100000@catbert.ucdavis.edu>,
Michael Nguyen <ez062634@mailbox.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
+ localtime() returns the year as the current year minus 1900 how will this
+ affect localtime() when 2000 comes by ... whill it return 100?
The perldoc command provides this answer: "perldoc -f localtime"
James
------------------------------
Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:26:34 GMT
From: abigail@fnx.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: y2k
Message-Id: <6o391q$i7p$2@client3.news.psi.net>
Michael Nguyen (ez062634@mailbox.ucdavis.edu) wrote on MDCCLXXIII
September MCMXCIII in <URL: news:Pine.GSO.3.96.980709103533.18394B-100000@catbert.ucdavis.edu>:
++ localtime() returns the year as the current year minus 1900 how will this
++ affect localtime() when 2000 comes by ... whill it return 100?
Well, I could tell you the answer, but you obviously can't read.
Abigail
--
perl -wle '(1 x $_) !~ /^(11+)\1+$/ && print while ++ $_'
------------------------------
Date: 9 Jul 1998 20:34:45 GMT
From: cadams@ro.com (Chris Adams)
Subject: Re: y2k
Message-Id: <6o39h5$lcu$1@news.ro.com>
According to Michael Nguyen <ez062634@mailbox.ucdavis.edu>:
>localtime() returns the year as the current year minus 1900 how will this
>affect localtime() when 2000 comes by ... whill it return 100?
$ perldoc -f localtime
=item localtime EXPR
Converts a time as returned by the time function to a 9-element array
with the time analyzed for the local time zone. Typically used as
follows:
# 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$isdst) =
localtime(time);
All array elements are numeric, and come straight out of a struct tm.
In particular this means that $mon has the range 0..11 and $wday has
the range 0..6 with sunday as day 0. Also, $year is the number of
years since 1900, that is, $year is 123 in year 2023.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If EXPR is omitted, uses the current time (C<localtime(time)>).
In a scalar context, returns the ctime(3) value:
$now_string = localtime; # e.g., "Thu Oct 13 04:54:34 1994"
This scalar value is B<not> locale dependent, see L<perllocale>,
but instead a Perl builtin.
Also see the Time::Local module, and the strftime(3) and mktime(3)
function available via the POSIX module.
$
--
Chris Adams - cadams@ro.com
System Administrator - Renaissance Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
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