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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 2724 Volume: 8
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Tue May 26 12:12:26 1998
Date: Tue, 26 May 98 09:01:40 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 26 May 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 2724
Today's topics:
Searching pesh@post.cz
Re: Searching (Honza Pazdziora)
Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Re: Suggestion Re: GNU attacks on the open software com <dak@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Re: system call question (Robert Mann)
Re: system call question <westxga@ptsc.slg.eds.com>
Re: Tom Christiansen attacks the free software communit <micce@irf.se>
What are you talking about? Re: No, I didn't. (was Re: <Scott.L.Erickson@HealthPartners.com>
Re: Writing to a file <camerond@mail.uca.edu>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 8 Mar 97) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:32:45 GMT
From: pesh@post.cz
Subject: Searching
Message-Id: <6keg9t$l3o$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Hi.
Please help me.
I am working on the search internet application in Perl for our school
project (www site). It looks simple but I do not know how can I make the
output when there is many returned matches. I would like to write them on
more pages and not on the one only.
Is the solution in saving the other_page results in temp file? Or the results
on other pages will be the normal search but more "specified"?
Thanks for help and excuse my English... :-)
Petr Simek (Pesh)
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:07:00 GMT
From: adelton@fi.muni.cz (Honza Pazdziora)
Subject: Re: Searching
Message-Id: <adelton.896191620@nemesis>
pesh@post.cz writes:
> Hi.
> Please help me.
> I am working on the search internet application in Perl for our school
> project (www site). It looks simple but I do not know how can I make the
> output when there is many returned matches. I would like to write them on
> more pages and not on the one only.
> Is the solution in saving the other_page results in temp file? Or the results
> on other pages will be the normal search but more "specified"?
> Thanks for help and excuse my English... :-)
The English is fine, but: none of the problems you described here is
not Perl specific problem. Please, check the FAQ for very good places
to find information you need.
--
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Honza Pazdziora | adelton@fi.muni.cz | http://www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/
I can take or leave it if I please
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Date: 26 May 1998 15:07:43 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <6kelrv$hic$3@info.uah.edu>
Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 18 May 1998 15:37:31 GMT and ending at
25 May 1998 20:26:08 GMT.
Notes
=====
- A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
- The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
in determining the "real" e-mail address and name.
- Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
volume to the total body volume.
- Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
- Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
- Copyright (c) 1998 Greg Bacon. All Rights Reserved.
Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
alteration is not permitted. Redistribution and/or use for any
commercial purpose is prohibited.
Excluded Posters
================
perlfaq-suggestions\@mox\.perl\.com
Totals
======
Posters: 550
Articles: 1924 (916 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 405
Volume generated: 3585.6 kb
- headers: 1476.6 kb (26,979 lines)
- bodies: 1929.3 kb (53,802 lines)
- original: 1286.9 kb (39,209 lines)
- signatures: 177.7 kb (3,242 lines)
Original Content Rating: 0.667
Averages
========
Posts per poster: 3.5
median: 1.0 post
mode: 1 post - 329 posters
s: 8.5 posts
Posts per thread: 4.8
median: 2 posts
mode: 1 post - 120 threads
s: 21.6 posts
Message size: 1908.3 bytes
- header: 785.9 bytes (14.0 lines)
- body: 1026.8 bytes (28.0 lines)
- original: 684.9 bytes (20.4 lines)
- signature: 94.6 bytes (1.7 lines)
Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------
107 215.2 ( 91.6/111.4/ 94.3) tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
89 131.0 ( 72.7/ 47.7/ 31.7) Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
50 108.3 ( 44.6/ 55.7/ 35.6) Barry Margolin <barmar@bbnplanet.com>
46 100.0 ( 38.0/ 61.9/ 36.1) robert havoc pennington <hp@pobox.com>
46 128.8 ( 57.2/ 57.2/ 22.6) fantome/@/usa/./net (le Fanttme)
38 95.4 ( 39.5/ 47.7/ 25.7) David Kastrup <dak@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
34 58.3 ( 23.2/ 27.8/ 18.8) mgjv@comdyn.com.au (Martien Verbruggen)
33 79.2 ( 36.2/ 36.8/ 36.5) pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor)
29 44.8 ( 18.3/ 26.4/ 20.1) mjd@op.net (Mark-Jason Dominus)
27 44.7 ( 17.3/ 27.4/ 18.1) jdporter@min.net (John Porter)
These posters accounted for 25.9% of all articles.
Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------
215.2 ( 91.6/111.4/ 94.3) 107 tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
131.0 ( 72.7/ 47.7/ 31.7) 89 Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
128.8 ( 57.2/ 57.2/ 22.6) 46 fantome/@/usa/./net (le Fanttme)
108.3 ( 44.6/ 55.7/ 35.6) 50 Barry Margolin <barmar@bbnplanet.com>
100.0 ( 38.0/ 61.9/ 36.1) 46 robert havoc pennington <hp@pobox.com>
95.4 ( 39.5/ 47.7/ 25.7) 38 David Kastrup <dak@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
79.2 ( 36.2/ 36.8/ 36.5) 33 pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor)
58.3 ( 23.2/ 27.8/ 18.8) 34 mgjv@comdyn.com.au (Martien Verbruggen)
56.8 ( 21.2/ 35.5/ 18.2) 24 fjh@cs.mu.oz.au (Fergus Henderson)
53.8 ( 18.6/ 27.5/ 18.2) 20 psmith@baynetworks.com
These posters accounted for 28.6% of the total volume.
Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
1.000 ( 20.3 / 20.3) 14 Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@poboxes.com>
0.992 ( 36.5 / 36.8) 33 pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor)
0.989 ( 5.2 / 5.2) 8 fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
0.936 ( 2.6 / 2.8) 6 perlguy@technologist.com
0.902 ( 1.4 / 1.5) 7 belg4mit@aol.com (Belg4mit)
0.892 ( 2.7 / 3.0) 6 gebis@albrecht.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael J Gebis)
0.847 ( 94.3 /111.4) 107 tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
0.820 ( 4.4 / 5.3) 6 Marc.Haber-usenet@gmx.de (Marc Haber)
0.778 ( 4.8 / 6.2) 8 Olof Oberg <millNO@SPAMludd.luth.se>
0.765 ( 3.3 / 4.3) 5 scott@softbase.com
Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.395 ( 22.6 / 57.2) 46 fantome/@/usa/./net (le Fanttme)
0.385 ( 10.4 / 26.9) 16 trd@hydra.cs.mu.oz.au (Tyson Richard DOWD)
0.370 ( 1.5 / 4.0) 5 palincss@tidalwave.net
0.364 ( 2.6 / 7.2) 12 kpreid@ibm.net (Kevin Reid)
0.346 ( 5.5 / 15.9) 14 keithmur@mindspring.com
0.344 ( 2.9 / 8.3) 10 phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno)
0.334 ( 1.6 / 4.7) 6 Benjamin Holzman <bholzman@earthlink.net>
0.312 ( 3.8 / 12.1) 7 Bill Anderson <recon@cavalry.com>
0.271 ( 1.2 / 4.3) 6 Bob Trieger <sowmaster@juicepigs.com>
0.224 ( 1.2 / 5.5) 6 Klaus.Schilling@home.ivm.de
Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================
Posts Subject
----- -------
418 GNU attacks on the open software community
90 GPL documentation == unspeakable evil
46 Clearly define "free software"
42 Tom Christiansen attacks the free software community (was: Re: GNU attacks on the open software community)
42 More double standards out of the FSF
31 Does Perl have a IDE?I don't like command line.
23 translate A-Z to 1-26
22 Why NOT crypt???
22 Suggestion Re: GNU attacks on the open software community
17 GNU attacks on the open software community.
These threads accounted for 39.1% of all articles.
Top 10 Threads by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------
905.6 (370.5/482.0/280.8) 418 GNU attacks on the open software community
212.7 ( 85.9/116.0/ 75.5) 90 GPL documentation == unspeakable evil
117.5 ( 37.6/ 75.5/ 40.4) 46 Clearly define "free software"
94.1 ( 44.1/ 45.3/ 27.1) 42 Tom Christiansen attacks the free software community (was: Re: GNU attacks on the open software community)
90.3 ( 37.0/ 48.9/ 30.6) 42 More double standards out of the FSF
57.7 ( 24.7/ 27.5/ 14.7) 31 Does Perl have a IDE?I don't like command line.
43.5 ( 16.0/ 25.1/ 15.2) 22 Why NOT crypt???
40.0 ( 20.4/ 17.5/ 11.6) 22 Suggestion Re: GNU attacks on the open software community
37.2 ( 13.7/ 21.7/ 14.0) 16 Quiet summary
34.3 ( 14.8/ 13.4/ 8.3) 17 GNU attacks on the open software community.
These threads accounted for 45.5% of the total volume.
Top 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.858 ( 10.6/ 12.3) 8 Function syntax with prototyping, filehandles and arrays
0.857 ( 4.2/ 5.0) 6 Perl for Windows is important, and comments on COM and CPAN
0.838 ( 5.1/ 6.1) 8 grep variable value not its name.
0.820 ( 4.5/ 5.4) 7 I can't use any modules in FreeBSD!
0.807 ( 8.1/ 10.0) 9 Benchmark: pre-extending array?
0.806 ( 10.1/ 12.5) 6 can't find uninitialized value after while block, causing warning
0.792 ( 2.3/ 2.9) 5 Benchmark: \s against [ \t]
0.788 ( 4.8/ 6.1) 6 Camel p. 541: "Prefer join()"
0.777 ( 4.2/ 5.4) 8 Taint, untaint, recusion and internal functions
0.774 ( 3.7/ 4.8) 7 I can't store a reference in a key of hash!
Bottom 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.535 ( 14.7 / 27.5) 31 Does Perl have a IDE?I don't like command line.
0.535 ( 40.4 / 75.5) 46 Clearly define "free software"
0.513 ( 1.2 / 2.3) 5 This, I believe has a simple solution.
0.486 ( 2.5 / 5.1) 5 New Math Modules
0.431 ( 1.7 / 3.8) 5 Perl Win95 Question
0.429 ( 2.4 / 5.5) 6 Authentication??
0.404 ( 1.5 / 3.8) 5 perl variables
0.402 ( 0.9 / 2.2) 5 Killing a thread (was: Re: Stop Changing Subject Lines!!)
0.331 ( 1.4 / 4.2) 5 Is if ($a="something") a bad style?
0.323 ( 1.1 / 3.5) 5 Question: Is Perl an acronym?
Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
=============================
Articles Newsgroup
-------- ---------
719 gnu.misc.discuss
26 comp.lang.perl.modules
12 alt.perl.sockets
11 comp.lang.perl
10 alt.perl
7 de.comp.lang.perl
4 comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
4 tw.bbs.comp.lang.perl
4 no.it.programmering.perl
4 comp.databases.progress
Top 10 Crossposters
===================
Articles Address
-------- -------
65 tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
50 Barry Margolin <barmar@bbnplanet.com>
46 fantome/@/usa/./net (le Fanttme)
46 robert havoc pennington <hp@pobox.com>
38 David Kastrup <dak@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
25 pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor)
24 fjh@cs.mu.oz.au (Fergus Henderson)
20 tb@mit.edu (Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG)
19 psmith@baynetworks.com
18 les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell)
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Date: 26 May 1998 15:28:46 +0200
From: David Kastrup <dak@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Subject: Re: Suggestion Re: GNU attacks on the open software community
Message-Id: <m2lnrp40vl.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
? the platypus {aka David Formosa} <dformosa@st.nepean.uws.edu.au> writes:
> In <u1hlnrqb2wl.fsf@w20-575-65.MIT.EDU> tb@mit.edu (Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG) writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > He's attacking me because of my arguments, which
> >he doesn't like, and the forcefulness with which I advocate them,
> >which he likes even less.
>
> >My point is that the tone of his attacks are strikingly similar to
> >those of the hate-mongers I more usually deal with.
>
> There is a fundermental diffrence. iIn this case its your beleafes that
> are being attacked, not you. Its not weather or not he likes or dislikes
> you, but weather he dislikes or likes your arguments.
Actually, he was lashing out wildly for something that he obviously
thought to be the belief of somebody. His accusations were far more
than the evidence supported.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: dak@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Fax: +49-234-709-4209
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 14:57:52 GMT
From: robert@lightspeed.net (Robert Mann)
Subject: Re: system call question
Message-Id: <356dd6a7.39644406@news.lightspeed.net>
Here is a real simple way to do it using a pipe. The code is the open
statement where the whois $domain| <--- notice the pipe. tells perl
to execute the command then pipe all output back into perl. You trap
it the same way you do with any other file handle.
If this were in your cgi-bin directory you could test it with the
following URL:
http://yourdomain.com/cgi-bin/whois.pl?domain=anydomain.com
Hope this helps you...
Robert Mann
Lightspeed Net
NOTE: Something this code lacks is checking the $domain for malitious
data coming in from the browser. You should add code to validate the
characters being sent to the whois program.
<-------------------- CUT HERE whois.pl ---------------------->
#!/usr/bin/perl
# Always tell the browser what is coming!
print "Content-type: text/plain", "\n\n" ;
# Parse the incoming form data.
&parse_form_data(*whois) ;
# Open whois and send it the domain and pipe the output back
open(WHOIS, "/usr/bin/whois $whois{'domain'}|") || die "Could not open
whois!\n" ;
while (<WHOIS>) {
print "$_" ;
}
close(WHOIS) ;
# Thats all there is to this. Exit cleanly and you are there.
exit(0) ;
# This is from O'Reillys CGI Programming book. It works well to
# parse incoming form data. It accepts both GET and POST data.
sub parse_form_data
{
local (*FORM_DATA) = @_;
local ( $request_method, $query_string, @key_value_pairs,
$key_value, $key, $value);
$request_method = $ENV{'REQUEST_METHOD'};
if ($request_method eq "GET") {
$query_string = $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'};
} elsif ($request_method eq "POST") {
read (STDIN, $query_string, $ENV{'CONTENT_LENGTH'});
} else {
&error_html (500, "Server Error",
"Server uses unsupported method");
}
@key_value_pairs = split (/&/, $query_string);
foreach $key_value (@key_value_pairs) {
($key, $value) = split (/=/, $key_value);
$value =~ tr/+/ /;
$value =~ s/%([\dA-Fa-f][\dA-Fa-f])/pack ("C", hex ($1))/eg;
if (defined($FORM_DATA{$key})) {
$FORM_DATA{$key} = join ("\0", $FORM_DATA{$key}, $value);
} else {
$FORM_DATA{$key} = $value;
}
}
}
<--------------- END CODE ---------------------->
On 26 May 1998 12:19:45 GMT, "Paul Dalton" <pauldnospam@pncl.co.uk>
wrote:
>Hello,
> I need to do a whois query from a www page. Can I pass the domain to check
>to the shell and do a lookup and then pass the output back to the browser?
>My initial attempts have led to premature termination of header errors. My
>book on perl says that system() only returns it return code, not the output
>of the command run. Am I going to have to write my whois output to a file
>and then read it in?
>
>Thanks
>
>Paul.
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:33:26 +0000
From: Glenn West <westxga@ptsc.slg.eds.com>
Subject: Re: system call question
Message-Id: <356A9A76.71D8@ptsc.slg.eds.com>
Paul Dalton wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I need to do a whois query from a www page. Can I pass the domain to check
> to the shell and do a lookup and then pass the output back to the browser?
> My initial attempts have led to premature termination of header errors. My
> book on perl says that system() only returns it return code, not the output
> of the command run. Am I going to have to write my whois output to a file
> and then read it in?
Use pipes as in:
open R_PIPE, "shell_command |" || die "Error $! on open of pipe\n";
while (<R_PIPE>) {
# do something with $_
}
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Date: 26 May 1998 15:12:45 +0200
From: Mikael Hedin <micce@irf.se>
Subject: Re: Tom Christiansen attacks the free software community (was: Re: GNU attacks on the open software community)
Message-Id: <m31zthdvle.fsf@zodiac.irf.se>
cicho@polbox.com (Marek Jedlinski) writes:
> Let me ask you this. The FSF web page states that perl documentation is not
> free, in their well-defined meaning of the word. What if somebody read the
> same statement in a paper or a computer magazine? There's *is* potential
> for confusion, denying it is counterproductive, seeing as how painlessly
Then the problem is that someone took a pice of text out of it's
context and it got misinterpreted. That will always happen when you
take something out of context. It is a frequent technique used by
politicians/jounalists to make somebody say something he/she did not
mean to say.
The person to blame is the one taking the text out of context, of
course!
/Micce
--
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Institutet fvr rymdfysik +46 (0)980 73547 (home)
Box 812, 981 28 KIRUNA, Sweden +46 (0)980 79050 (fax)
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 09:04:44 -0500
From: Scott Erickson <Scott.L.Erickson@HealthPartners.com>
Subject: What are you talking about? Re: No, I didn't. (was Re: Yeah, Stop it! (was Re: Stop Changing Subject Lines!!))
Message-Id: <356ACBFC.C0F5FA41@HealthPartners.com>
I never change subject lines, I just keep recycling the same,
inappropiate subject line for every posting.
Scott. :)
Bill 'Sneex' Jones wrote:
>
> Bob Trieger wrote:
> >
> > Peter A Fein wrote:
> > >
> > > Look, this GPL/Perl/FSF discussion is very entertaining, but it would
> > > make some of us *real* happy if you all would stop changing subject
> > > lines every post. It makes generating a useful killfile damn near
> > > impossible. I'm all for a good intellectual debate every now and
> > > then, but these threads have rapidly swamped the perl group.
> >
> > The devil made me do it.
> >
> > --
> > Bob Trieger | Titanic: big boat, bigger
> > sowmaster@juicepigs.com | iceberg, big deal
>
> :-)
>
> -Sneex-
> ____________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:37:10 -0500
From: Cameron Dorey <camerond@mail.uca.edu>
To: Lance Hetlet <hetlet@ptialaska.net>
Subject: Re: Writing to a file
Message-Id: <356AE1A6.D803CB6@mail.uca.edu>
[cc'd to lh]
Good morning,
Let me guess, you're working on a Windows95 machine, right? (two clues:
first, you posted in HTML and "real computer jocks" use text for Usenet
(and email) - please do so here in the future, change your preferences;
and second, your headers for this message say that you used Mozilla 4.04
Win95). Okay, before you jump back on me, I'm using Win95, too.
If my guess is correct, now for the answer: You have screwed up your
path. You need to direct your filehandle to ">>c:/path/whatever" (or
">>c:\\path\\whatever"). Additional unrequested advice: Get "Learning
Perl on Win32 Systems," also known as the gecko book, published by
O'Reilly, authored by Schwartz, Olsen, and Christiansen. It is better
than ANY other book you can get for starting out on Perl on Windows95
(or NT), IMHO. As always, YMMV.
Cameron
camerond@mail.uca.edu
Lance Hetlet wrote:
>
> I'm just learning Perl and have run into a problem with writing to a
> file.
> The book I'm working from shows two examples, one which doesn't
> work, and the other is confusing.
>
> The example that I'm trying is:
>
> open(DATABASE, ">>/data/records.dat");
> select (DATABASE);
> print $_;
> print "\n";
> select (STDOUT);
>
> The above does not work for me. Any hints?
> The example that confuses me is:
>
> format printf(FILE-TO-WRITE-TO FORMAT-STATEMENTS, DATA);
>
> I am unsure of the "Format-Statements" paramater. There is no example
> in
> the book, and I don't know what the format-statements might be.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> TIA
>
> Lance Hetlet
> http://www.ptialaska.net/~hetlet
>
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