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Tue Mar 24 15:07:29 1998
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 12:00:38 -0800
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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 24 Mar 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 2173
Today's topics:
'a2p' for WinNT? <lesh@sdinc.com>
Re: Anybody experienced in File-Locking with Perl5? <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Re: babelfish.altavista web client (enjoy) <dboorstein@shopcfn.com>
Re: debugging Perl tim@maroney.org
Form Textarea and \n issue (Mick Knutson)
formating numbers with commas <rsmoore@giscn.com>
Re: formating numbers with commas <quentin.fennessy@amd.com>
Re: formating numbers with commas (Jason Gloudon)
Re: Help with NT4 Wks <simpsond@tig.com.au>
Hmm...STDIN & inetd, what's up? <mcaerwyn@winternet.com>
Re: How to attach files with Sendmail. (Andrew M. Langmead)
Re: IIS, PERL, CGI (Steve Linberg)
Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl? <simpsond@tig.com.au>
Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl? lvirden@cas.org
Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl? (MICHELLE MARIE HANKINS)
LWP und Win32 ? (__Olivier__)
Re: Mail filter package? lvirden@cas.org
Perl Compatable with IE4.0? <svend@lubypublishing.com>
Perl for W95 (Kevin Murphy)
Perl programmers wanted to join our project krzysztofj@usa.net
Re: PerlRing??? (Nathan V. Patwardhan)
Re: Ref to var in other sub? <david_delgreco@intuit.com>
Re: Script for global changes <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Spaces in a sentence (Steve Linberg)
Re: Strange behavior with NET:Ftp under Cron <quentin.fennessy@amd.com>
Re: Using perl code as a config file syntax? (Or, can r <quentin.fennessy@amd.com>
Re: what is wrong with being a novice ?? <simpsond@tig.com.au>
Re: Where to get Perl compiler for Win95 or Win NT? (Jim Weisgram)
Why hasn't there been a vote on moderating cplm yet ? <birgitt@order.booktraders.com>
Re: Windows DLL support for perl <simpsond@tig.com.au>
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:53:59 -0800
From: Les Hartzman <lesh@sdinc.com>
Subject: 'a2p' for WinNT?
Message-Id: <35180F57.68B4AA46@sdinc.com>
I've installed the latest version of Perl from the CPAN site, but there
is no 'a2p' utility. Does one exist yet, or is the code available for
building?
TIA,
Les
--
=======================================================================
Les Hartzman "Those that don't read have no
lesh@sdinc.com advantage over those that can't", Mark Twain
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:40:13 -0800
From: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
To: Tobias Bugala <TobiasBugala@swol.de>
Subject: Re: Anybody experienced in File-Locking with Perl5?
Message-Id: <35180C1D.8FFDE84A@hpl.hp.com>
Tobias Bugala wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> well I should lock a file so that only one process can access that file.
...
> $F_LOCK = 1;
> $F_ULOCK = 0;
...
I have done fine under HP-UX using values 2 and 8 respectively, as
documented under "flock" (Blue Camel, page 166).
Larry Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:20:06 -0500
From: Dan Boorstein <dboorstein@shopcfn.com>
Subject: Re: babelfish.altavista web client (enjoy)
Message-Id: <35180766.BB4ADDA3@shopcfn.com>
Jonathan Feinberg <jdf@pobox.com> wrote:
> opus@magibox.net (Brock Sides) writes:
>> It takes the output of /usr/games/fortune (substitute something
>> appropriate on your own machine), feeds it to
>> babelfish.altavista.digital.com, then feeds the output back into the
>> babelfish. You can run it through the babelfish as many times as you
>> like with command line options: -f => French, -g => German, -p =>
>> Portuguese, -s => Spanish, -i => Italian.
>
> I've had a web page up for a couple of months that does a similar
> thing. You'll find it at
>
> http://www5.awa.com/~jonathan/nph-babel.cgi
>
for kicks i tried:
http://www5.awa.com/~jonathan/nph-babel.cgi?
lang=pt&phrase=There%27s+more+than+one+way+to+do+it%2e
based on the results i would like to recommend:
MTTOTTOTTOTTTOTTTOTTTOTHTOTOWOTMI
as a new perl slogan.
i think it will make for easier translation back into portugese,
thereby fostering a closer connection to perl developer base in
portugal. ;)
--
dan boorstein <dboorstein@shopcfn.com>
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:36:22 -0600
From: tim@maroney.org
Subject: Re: debugging Perl
Message-Id: <6f8ub1$clu$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <EqBw5n.98L@world.std.com>,
aml@world.std.com (Andrew M. Langmead) wrote:
> Which is why the perl debugger, is great. It allows you to set break
> points and decide at runtime what and where you want to print.
Be nice if it had a real user interface, though. If I had the free time I'd
like to create a CGI/JavaScript front-end to the debugger, which could then be
run locally in loopback mode or remotely for real CGI debugging. The command
line interface it has now is, like, from the stone ages, daddy-o.
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:51:02 -0800
From: mknutson@websolution.com (Mick Knutson)
Subject: Form Textarea and \n issue
Message-Id: <MPG.f81ae7dd7b5d93f98968e@news.greatbasin.net>
I get the following text from a text area:
Eric Alberich of the BASE team Spiders from Mars was seriously
injured when he jumped from a 240ft bridge this week on his way to Salt
Lake City
after the I.P.B.C. Tombstone challenge. He was doing a pilotchute assist
deployment
when he reached up for his toggels only one released and he struck the
wall
it is not known if he was using zoo toggles or not. At this time it is
known that
he has fractured both heels. Please give him a call and give him some
encouragement
he is in Salt Lake City LDS hospital by himself.
If you notice that the user hits return and creates a \n newline many
times. I would like to know how to parse this out to create just
formatting upon screen size with HTML. It should look like this:
Eric Alberich of the BASE team Spiders from Mars was seriously injured
when he jumped from a 240ft bridge this week on his way to Salt Lake City
after the I.P.B.C. Tombstone challenge. He was doing a pilotchute assist
deployment when he reached up for his toggels only one released and he
struck the wall it is not known if he was using zoo toggles or not. At
this time it is known that he has fractured both heels. Please give him a
call and give him some encouragement he is in Salt Lake City LDS hospital
by himself.
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:48:59 -0600
From: "Robert S. Moore" <rsmoore@giscn.com>
Subject: formating numbers with commas
Message-Id: <3517f11f00000052@samson.airnet.net-MINC>
I'm just a hack and need to know where to look to find out how to format a
number for output (e.g., 1123456) as 1,123,456
Thanks,
Bob Moore
rsmoore@airnet.net
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Date: 24 Mar 1998 12:24:05 -0600
From: Quentin Fennessy <quentin.fennessy@amd.com>
Subject: Re: formating numbers with commas
Message-Id: <ximn2eglzga.fsf@jihad.amd.com>
"Robert S. Moore" <rsmoore@giscn.com> writes:
Please read perlfaq5, the section entitled:
=head2 How can I output my numbers with commas added?
Hack != hacker
--
Quentin Fennessy AMD, Austin Texas
Secret hacker rule #11 - hackers read manuals
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:37:10 GMT
From: jgloudon@manitoba.bbn.com (Jason Gloudon)
Subject: Re: formating numbers with commas
Message-Id: <slrn6hfv85.f1t.jgloudon@manitoba.bbn.com>
Robert S. Moore <rsmoore@giscn.com> wrote:
>I'm just a hack and need to know where to look to find out how to format a
>number for output (e.g., 1123456) as 1,123,456
quickly look at :
http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/FAQ/PerlFAQ.html#
How_can_I_output_my_numbers_with
or man perlfaq5 and look for
How can I output my numbers with commas added?
--
Jason Gloudon
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:12:46 +1000
From: "DRS" <simpsond@tig.com.au>
Subject: Re: Help with NT4 Wks
Message-Id: <6f8ue2$q07$1@toto.tig.com.au>
Marcello Veggiotti wrote in message <3513E598.2667539D@arese.com>...
>Hi all, can someone help me configuring Perl and IIS4 (using the one in
>NT option pack).
>I have perl working on my PC, but when I call a perl file from the
>browser, it askes me to open it. I have set permissions in the
>configuration pannel so to have my cgi-local dir allowed to excecute
>programs and scripts ... files .exe work, but .pl not.
>how can I solve it?
>
>Please, send a copy directly to me:
>net4u@arese.com
>
Do you have your File Associations set correctly (.pl associatd with your
Perl exe)?
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Date: 24 Mar 1998 18:13:27 GMT
From: Michael Caerwyn <mcaerwyn@winternet.com>
Subject: Hmm...STDIN & inetd, what's up?
Message-Id: <6f8t47$bvd$1@blackice.winternet.com>
Good Morning,
I am having an interesting problem. I am starting a script from
inetd, then reading from STDIN to get some data from the client side
of this script and I am then calling getpwnam and it "blows away" the
STDIN variable, and makes the script useless.
Notes: The script, of course, works being called directly, or
through a pipe such as echo "name" | script.
The OS is Solaris 2.6
The DB is 1.86, compiled under solaris from the source at
sleepy cat,
The inetd line is:
<process> stream tcp nowait bin /usr/sbin/prog.pl prog.pl
I have looked at the FAQ and missed anything that matched this,
I have gone to the manual, plus another book and still didn't
find anything.
The script checks usernames to see if they are in the
password file or in the sendmail aliases database,
I would prefer not to have to turn this into a stand alone.
I have tried closing the <STDIN> after reading the data,
I have tried assigning another variable to the data,
immediately after reading it,
I have tried setting the variable by hand and running it
through, it worked,
The script:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
#
# This set of routines is a subset of the ones needed fir the "username"
# server. It contains two sections, 1st check the password file.
# then open and check the aliases database from sendmail.
#
# At the bottom of this test version is a "main" to let it be tested.
#
# 0.1 MDFC 1st draft at the logic.
use DB_File;
sub pwchk {
my ($un, $nam, $pass, $uid) = $_[0];
$nam = "";
($nam, $pass, $uid) = getpwnam($un);
if ($un eq $nam) {
return (1);
}
return(0);
}
sub aliasck {
my ($un, %dbm, $who, $where) = $_[0];
tie(%dbm, "DB_File", "/var/tmp/aliases.db", O_RDWR, 0666, $DB_HASH);
while (($who, $where) = each %dbm ) {
$who =~ s/://;
if ( $who eq $un ) {
untie(%dbm);
return(1);
}
}
untie(%dbm);
return(0);
}
$a = "";
chomp($a = <STDIN>);
if (pwchk($a)) {
print "Password Entry\n";
} elsif (aliasck($a)) {
print "Alias Entry\n";
} else {
print "Username Okay.\n";
}
ENd of script.
More strange notes:
Placing prints in various place I got the following results:
+) After the $a=<STDIN> :: Correct answer,
+) After the start of pwdck :: Correct answer,
+) Just after the getpwnam :: if in print correct, if in
printf wrong, if in a print just before a printf the same.
+) $nam never gets set.
+) When in a printf after getpwnam such as:
printf("un :: %s || nam :: %s\n", $un, $nam);
the printed result is: (get this)
|| nam ::
The whole un :: %s disappears...I haven't see that one before.
Sorry to have rambled on, but I am tring to fill in all the blanks.
Ideas requested,
- Michael Caerwyn (mcaerwyn@winternet.com)
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:13:42 GMT
From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M. Langmead)
Subject: Re: How to attach files with Sendmail.
Message-Id: <EqC82u.6zK@world.std.com>
jglopez@javercol.javeriana.edu.co writes:
>Hi everybody, I am trying to attach a file to a E-mail message sent with send
>mail directly from a script but I don't know how, do you know how, please help
>me.
The format for attachments over Internet e-mail is called
"Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions", often abbreviated to
MIME. Its format is specified in various Internet RFC documents
including 2045, 2046, 2047, 2048, and 2049.
<URL:ftp://ftp.std.com/obi/DARPA/rfc>
There are perl modules that help create (and parse) MIME formatted
documents, you can find them at <URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/
modules/by-module/MIME/>
--
Andrew Langmead
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:07:33 -0500
From: linberg@literacy.upenn.edu (Steve Linberg)
Subject: Re: IIS, PERL, CGI
Message-Id: <linberg-2403981407330001@projdirc.literacy.upenn.edu>
In article <351716E4.156F3BCF@flex.net>, Gerald Hurst <ghurst@flex.net> wrote:
> ...I've got PERL 5.00404 working with NT
> 4.0 and IIS...
You do? Where did you get it? Did you build it yourself? Last I heard,
5.004+ wasn't available for NT yet.
_____________________________________________________________________
Steve Linberg National Center on Adult Literacy
Systems Programmer &c. University of Pennsylvania
linberg@literacy.upenn.edu http://www.literacyonline.org
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:40:00 +1000
From: "DRS" <simpsond@tig.com.au>
Subject: Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl?
Message-Id: <6f8ue4$q07$2@toto.tig.com.au>
Mark Stackhouse wrote in message <6f34pt$b0a@newsops.execpc.com>...
[snipped]
>If you, (or anyone else for that matter), knows of a better
>language that non programmers can utilize to get some REAL
>work done, I'm all ears! I've only invested a few weeks
>into Perl so it would be no big loss on my part. Twenty
>bucks for another book to gather dust on "ye
>ole book shelf" is no big deal. Maybe there's an
>opportunity for someone to make some big bucks here?
The people at IDG are doing just that. You (and every other newbie) can
find "PERL 5 for Dummies" at
http://www.dummies.com/cgi/fill_out_template.pl?book:0-7645-0044-9:book-Dumm
ies+Press::u19942.
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Date: 24 Mar 1998 18:45:35 GMT
From: lvirden@cas.org
Subject: Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl?
Message-Id: <6f8v0f$gbd$1@srv38s4u.cas.org>
According to I R A Aggie <fl_aggie@thepentagon.com>:
:+ Certainly Perl's module concept is good first steps towards this type of
:+ user. But if someone has to get compilers, books, pages of FAQs,
:+ man pages, internet connections and web browsers (to search online
:+ archives and web pages) and seemingly then to learn to program in one
:+ language and THEN to learn perl, before being able in many cases to ask
:+ for help would seem to be a pretty steep intro curve for the appliance
:+ user.
:
:Do appliance users in the Real World go to Radio Shack, buy components,
:and put together a 4 head VHS tape recorder?
:
:No. Why should they expect to be able to walk in, slap together a
:couple of subroutines and a main program, and a functioning CGI script?
:These are the same people who complain that setting the said VCR's
:clock is hard. Do you want them modifying CGI scripts and putting
:them on YOUR server?
The fun of analogies can be drawn out to excruciating detail, with
participants claiming one's analogies don't fit. My next round of
analogy might go:
What many do as appliance users is go to Radio Shack and buy the tape
recorder and some tapes, take them home, plug them into the electricity and
the antenna or cable, and start watching videos. One day, they want to
record a show. So they pop out, buy a blank, put it into the recorder,
and press the button marked "record". Bingo - they have their show.
The internet users we are talking about have bought the tape recorder
(their computer) and the tapes (software to connect to their ISP, web
browsers, etc.). Now they want to plug them in and use them. And that
works for a while. Now they want to record a show (create a web
page). So they pop out and buy a blank tape (CGI for dummies or
whatever - with CD-ROM containing Perl, etc.) and want to put it into
their computer and press record. And the lucky ones may be able to
start out that way. Then comes the day they want to record a different
channel, or at a time in the near future (customize a CGI script).
They should not need to go out and learn about electro-magnetism and
the physics of how the VCR and tape interact (coding, debugging, etc.)
before they can do that. Most would appreciate the kindness of being able
to ask simple questions and get simple direct relatively polite answers.
But then, I am sure that there are those who feel that the analogy has
no relevance to the topic at hand, so it probably isn't worth pursuing.
--
<URL:mailto:lvirden@cas.org> Quote: In heaven, there is no panic,
<*> O- <URL:http://www.teraform.com/%7Elvirden/> only planning.
Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting
should be construed as representing my employer's opinions.
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Date: 24 Mar 1998 18:59:00 GMT
From: mmhankin@ouray.cudenver.edu (MICHELLE MARIE HANKINS)
Subject: Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl?
Message-Id: <6f8vpk$9g8$1@news.cudenver.edu>
Tom Christiansen (tchrist@mox.perl.com) wrote:
: In comp.lang.perl.misc, Mark Stackhouse <stackhou@execpc.com> writes
: a terribly mutilated, miswrapped posting:
: Nonprogammers should not use any programming language. Period.
: Nonsurgeons should perform any surgical interventions. Period. This is
: a profession, you know. If you aren't a programmer, hire one.
Forgive us less-enlightened for attempting to check out the ivory tower.
I inherited a bouncing baby DEC Alpha and was told "Here, take care of
this" not having touched unix for 4 years (all SAS people here.) Then
my boss, a very anti-unix type, got her pink slip. I chose swimming
pick up and it is conducive to lazy sysadmin-types who like to automate
instead of sinking.
I'm not a programmer. I'm an artist. But I like utilizing my left brain,
and I'm gettin pretty good at it. I may keep this as a day job until I
can paint all day. I read usenet, I read faq's, I read books, I pop
Advil at regular intervals all day while I sit here & scratch my head
over why my script doesn't like stuff.
I'm flashing back to Catholic grade school, when I was told there were no
altar girls.
--
Michelle Hankins,
realemail: michelle_hankins@polk.com
playemail: mmhankin@ouray.cudenver.edu
All hardware sucks. All software sucks.
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Date: 24 Mar 1998 17:51:07 GMT
From: omueller@stud.ee.StoPx.ch (__Olivier__)
Subject: LWP und Win32 ?
Message-Id: <slrn6hfsam.2qh.omueller@tardis-e3.ee.ethz.ch>
This is maybe a stupid question, but is it possible to use LWP modules
in a Perl script running under Windows ?
Thanks for any hint... I have a script that works under Unix, and
I *have* to use it with Win.
Olivier
--
Olivier Mueller | omueller@stud.ee.SToPx.ch
EE Student @ ETHZ | http://www.stud.ee.ethz.ch/~omueller
...Please replace "SToPx" by "Ethz" in my email to reply...
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Date: 24 Mar 1998 17:53:41 GMT
From: lvirden@cas.org
Subject: Re: Mail filter package?
Message-Id: <6f8rv5$dhs$1@srv38s4u.cas.org>
According to Mike Arms <marms@sandia.gov>:
:Actually, I did write my own simple filter that does this,
:but I can't help but think that someone out there has done
:a better more full featured mail filter package. Nothing
:pops up on the CPAN though.
It's there - you just have to look in the Mail directory. Pick up
mailagent - it's all you would want in a mail filtering program.
--
<URL:mailto:lvirden@cas.org> Quote: In heaven, there is no panic,
<*> O- <URL:http://www.teraform.com/%7Elvirden/> only planning.
Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting
should be construed as representing my employer's opinions.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:35:02 -0600
From: Sven Davies <svend@lubypublishing.com>
Subject: Perl Compatable with IE4.0?
Message-Id: <35180AE6.C289FB1@lubypublishing.com>
I reciently wrote a small script that would allow someone to publish a
report to an area of one of our websites. The idea is simple, the
script reads in the form variables and formats them to the HTML page
which is indexed and displayed for the visitor.
Simple enough huh?
Well a strange thing has surfaced. In testing the script, I used
Netscape 3.0, Netscape 4.0, IE 3.0 and Aol 3.0 browsers without any
trouble. I didn't use IE 4.0 because I still haven't decided where I
stand on that issue yet.
But wouldn't you now it, the first weekend the script was in use, it was
used by a user running IE 4.0 and he expirenced problems. Namely, his
input in the main story (report) field was trunkated after about three
to four hundred characters. No other browser had this problem except IE
4.0.
What is causing this?
Is there a way I can alter my script to prevent this from happening
without spliting the form field into several smaller fields?
Yours,
--
=====================================================================
Sven T. Davies http://www.billiardsdigest.com
On-Line Coordinator http://www.bowlingsbookstore.com
Luby Publishing http://www.bowlersjournal.com
=====================================================================
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:48:58 GMT
From: twtmjctn@superlink.net (Kevin Murphy)
Subject: Perl for W95
Message-Id: <3517ff86.20550675@news.superlink.net>
I have been using perl 4 in ms dos mode for some time
We have recently upgraded to Windows 95,
Can anybody tell me if there is a good way to pass command line
variables to perl in Windows 95. I have been using Xtree and the
script function, to hilite a file and pass it to perl to execute with
a particular perl script..ie perl.exe big2litl.pl %1 %2.out...
In win95...how do i do this ?..Send to ? What ?
Please help
Tia
Kevin
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:25:07 -0600
From: krzysztofj@usa.net
Subject: Perl programmers wanted to join our project
Message-Id: <6f8tlv$c2m$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Do not miss this unusual opportunity.
Would you like to be a co-author and co-owner of a new generation INTERNET
SEARCH ENGINE which is totaly a new concept? Have you got some spare time to
make even a small part of it? I mean a procedure, script, picture, help,
description, some server work, marketing....
If so, join our team and help us to make our own SEARCH ENGINE.
I am not going to hire you but to co-operate with you in order to create our
own piece work.
This SEARCH ENGINE will be co-owned by all of those who will take part in the
work on it. It will not only be my own SEARCH ENGINE but yours too, depending
on the amount of work you will do.
The idea of this kind of a SEARCH ENGINE is excellent. I think it will be
the most popular SEARCH ENGINE in the world. This is my own idea I want to
introduce to all Internet users. This amusing tool will significantly improve
searching the Internet.
I do not want to say more about my idea.
Your turn now.
I will wait for your e-mail with co-operation proposal for one month.
There are no fees to join our team but sponsors are welcomed.
Any other kind of help is also welcomed.
Just send me your e-mail with your name, e-mail address, age, your
achievments in the field and the kind of work on the project you are
interested in. A sample of your work you have done so far and you are proud
of. A sample of your work is a must but no more than 10Kbytes. Speaking and
writing English is essential, too.
Chris Jargielo
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Date: 22 Mar 1998 15:22:54 GMT
From: nvp@shore.net (Nathan V. Patwardhan)
Subject: Re: PerlRing???
Message-Id: <6f3ace$o4u@fridge.shore.net>
Joergen W. Lang (joergen.lang@schwaben.de) wrote:
: <musings>
: Since Perl is cross-platform, maybe it would be a good idea to have a
: cross-platform version of the docs instead of (or complementing) the
: pod-files ?
Oh, go on with your bad self. Shoo! Shoo!
Seriously, when you build/install the win32 standard port, you should
be asked if you want to install HTML docs. Just say yes. Although
POD has always been *quite* convertible to troff, HTML, text, etc,
etc, etc, the AS port didn't seem to include any this doc with the
distribution. Nor did it include the pod2<whatever> converters.
By installing the standard port with all of the HTML-ified docs, lots
of kewlt0kers will be able to cr00z the d0k and l33k for what thA
n33dz.
--
Nathan V. Patwardhan
please don't send spam to president@whitehouse.gov
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:24:52 -0800
From: David DelGreco <david_delgreco@intuit.com>
Subject: Re: Ref to var in other sub?
Message-Id: <3517FA74.FD01B343@intuit.com>
I took another look at Chapter 2 of the Camel book and now realize that I
can "use strict" and still declare a global hash with "use qw(%config)".
Thanks to everyone who replied.
------------
David DelGreco
david_delgreco@intuit.com
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Date: 24 Mar 1998 12:49:36 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Script for global changes
Message-Id: <x7wwdkj7wv.fsf@sysarch.com>
i am sorry but i have to enable (this is a temporary break from the no
HTML posting rule)
<FLAME>
John Pallozzi <jpalloz@trilliumsoft.com> writes:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
if you are a mime then don't post since you aren't supposed to talk!
> --------------6D6737C6479E
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
amazing that the letter in in plain text. maybe that should have been
encoded too! send it in micro$hit word 3.4.582 next time so more of us
could read it! we can't deal with ascii anymore.
> Attached is a perl script that is meant to do global changes on any
i can read plain text just fine. what is that gibberish you sent? who the
hell needs to encode perl text? is this an example of source hiding so
many ask for? why don't you attach a perl undump of uour script? it
would be as useful.
> I do not get any errors, however. Is the anyone who could take a look at
> the code to see what I'm doing wrong.
NO because i can't read the code!!
> --------------6D6737C6479E
> Content-Type: application/x-perl; name="change.pl"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
should be misapplication/dumb-posting
(snip) large amount of crypto-crap
</FLAME>
boy that felt better!
uri
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:04:07 -0500
From: linberg@literacy.upenn.edu (Steve Linberg)
Subject: Re: Spaces in a sentence
Message-Id: <linberg-2403981404070001@projdirc.literacy.upenn.edu>
In article <35143E2B.AEA0D84E@diagdata.com>, Alan Melton
<melton@diagdata.com> wrote:
> If a sentence (probably a scalar value)
> has spaces between the words and the perl script
> ends the statement after it finds the first
> space-- what character substitute can be put
> in to represent a space value?
>
> i.e. The New York Times
> perl script gives: The
> what can be put between The New The*spNew?
> so that the final result given by the perl script
> is: The New York Times
You really need a beginner's book on programming Perl. Or you need to
hire a programmer.
Assuming you're talking about regular expressions, to match a single
whitespace character, the code is:
\s
but you haven't given anywhere near enough context to even understand what
you're trying to do.
_____________________________________________________________________
Steve Linberg National Center on Adult Literacy
Systems Programmer &c. University of Pennsylvania
linberg@literacy.upenn.edu http://www.literacyonline.org
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Date: 24 Mar 1998 12:06:36 -0600
From: Quentin Fennessy <quentin.fennessy@amd.com>
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with NET:Ftp under Cron
Message-Id: <ximpvjcm09f.fsf@jihad.amd.com>
Aaron Bennett <abennett@stonehill.edu> writes:
> when I run a script that uses NET:Ftp from the command line, it works
> flawlessly. However, when running from Cron, it occassionaly produces
> this output:
>
> >Your "cron" job
> >
> > perl /export/service/www-home/https-www2/bin/registrar.pl
I suspect you are running two different perl binaries.
Aaron - are you sure the `perl' that is invoked by cron is
/usr/local/bin/perl? Are you invoking it with a cron line like
this:
cron /export/service/www-home/https-www2/bin/registrar.pl
Why do you invoke it like this? With a first line as you described:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
registrar.pl should run fine if the cron entry looks like this:
/export/service/www-home/https-www2/bin/registrar.pl
PS If you know Joan Shobbrook tell her I said hi!
--
Quentin Fennessy AMD, Austin Texas
Secret hacker rule #11 - hackers read manuals
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Date: 24 Mar 1998 12:01:01 -0600
From: Quentin Fennessy <quentin.fennessy@amd.com>
Subject: Re: Using perl code as a config file syntax? (Or, can require return more then one value?)
Message-Id: <ximra3sm0iq.fsf@jihad.amd.com>
Phillip Lenhardt <philen@ans.net> writes:
> [...]
> By using any format other than perl code for configs you can make it
> somewhat harder for the code gremlins to stab you behind the kneecaps.
Using Perl for config files is a Lisp-like approach to programming.
Lisp and Perl can treat data as code, and generate and evaluate such
code on the fly. This is very powerful.
This flexibility can become a problem if you let it get out of
hand. But that is not a problem with the technique -- it is
a human problem. The same person who let's their Perl config
file grow out of control is likely to do something else poorly
while implementing features in the application code itself.
Avoiding Perl config files only avoids one place for bugs. A new
feature is as likely to be buggy if implemented in a config file or in
the application code.
--
Quentin Fennessy AMD, Austin Texas
Secret hacker rule #11 - hackers read manuals
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:50:12 +1000
From: "DRS" <simpsond@tig.com.au>
Subject: Re: what is wrong with being a novice ??
Message-Id: <6f8v15$q91$1@toto.tig.com.au>
Kai Henningsen wrote in message <6qLXGyLXw-B@khms.westfalen.de>...
>gebis@albrecht.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael J Gebis) wrote on 20.03.98 in
<6euvl8$ed2@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>:
>
>> 1) Pull up the FAQ. Use the search feature of your browser to look
>> for relevant words.
>
>Browser, browser ... somehow I associate that with the web. What's wrong
>with "man perlfaq"?
>
>Or any of the other mans, for that matter.
What is wrong with it is that the vast majority of people - especially
newbies - are not using UNIX.
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:25:30 GMT
From: jweisgram@hotmail.com (Jim Weisgram)
Subject: Re: Where to get Perl compiler for Win95 or Win NT?
Message-Id: <351a086e.241534464@news.teleport.com>
"Lennart Wong" <lenyywong@gulf.net> wrote:
>I am a newcomer of Perl. Yet, all I have in hand is the "Learning Perl"
>book. I want to get a compiler to try Perl out. I have close-to-none
>experience with UNIX and have a PC with Win95 and Win NT. Can anyone tell
>me where I can get a FREE Perl compiler for Win95 or Win NT? Thank you very
>much!
>
Visit www.perl.com and check out the Win32 section. There are some choices you
will have to make.
--
All opinions expressed are mine and not my employers (but they ought to be)
Jim Weisgram
Oregon Department of Transportation
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:23:39 -0500
From: Birgitt Funk <birgitt@order.booktraders.com>
Subject: Why hasn't there been a vote on moderating cplm yet ?
Message-Id: <3518164B.24E66EF9@order.booktraders.com>
Hi,
I am reading this list regularly since a week to make up my
mind if and how to start learning Perl.
I would not mind if this list would be moderated at all, as
really almost any question somewhat precisely formulated gets
a helpful answer (which I think is amazing to say the least).
Why is voting on this a problem and why hasn't it been done ?
What is so bad about moderation ? It would make the list much
more helpful and usable, as long as answers are given clearly.
(meaning not being obscure in the code for the sake of being
"elegant" if the person who posts can't handle "elegant" answers
yet).
Looking at how much time (and emotions) are spent to straighten
out one poster, I would say, one should not waste great resources
(proficient Perl programmers) like this.
Can someone tell me what the main reason is that no vote or
decision has been made to moderate cplm?
Birgitt Funk
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:51:56 +1000
From: "DRS" <simpsond@tig.com.au>
Subject: Re: Windows DLL support for perl
Message-Id: <6f8v4e$q9a$1@toto.tig.com.au>
PerlIIs uses a dll. Look in http://www.perl.com/.
Josef Schiefer wrote in message <35150511.9594A78E@mailcity.com>...
>Hi,
>
>I am looking for a possibility to call via perl functions from a Windows
>DLL. Has somebody an idee to do that in a simple and easy
>way?
>
>Best regards
>Josef
>
>_______________________________________________
> , ,
> ("\''/").___..--''"`-._
> 9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`)
> Josef Schiefer (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-'
> _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .
> (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-'
>_______________________________________________
> eMail: josef_schiefer@mailcity.com
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