[8552] in Perl-Users-Digest
Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 2169 Volume: 8
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)
Tue Mar 24 01:07:53 1998
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 22:00:30 -0800
From: Perl-Users Digest <Perl-Users-Request@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU>
To: Perl-Users@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)
Perl-Users Digest Mon, 23 Mar 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 2169
Today's topics:
Re: "Newbie" Crib Notes <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu>
Re: /dev/fb error (Jason Gloudon)
Re: Calling all Newbies <birgitt@order.booktraders.com>
Re: CGI.pm (Martin Vorlaender)
Re: Challenge your programming skill (Hasan Diwan)
debugging Perl <wwiley@bedriver.com>
eval, do FILE <Daryl.Tester@au.com.steadycom>
Form Input <danjezek@pixi.com>
Re: How to instrument Perl a subroutine (Andrew M. Langmead)
Re: http not able to execute .pl file tim@maroney.org
IIS, PERL, CGI <ghurst@flex.net>
Re: IIS, PERL, CGI <sowmaster@juicepigs.com>
Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl? (David Adler)
Re: PerlRing??? (Martin Vorlaender)
Re: Please help with ACGI vs. CGI in MacPerl (Andre L.)
Re: Printing from Perl on NT box (Mark Schmick)
Re: splicing element of a LoL <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu>
udp <rodion@incoma.ru>
Re: Using perl code as a config file syntax? (Or, can r <zenin@archive.rhps.org>
Re: Wanted: email address gleaner <webmaster@fccjmail.fccj.cc.fl.us>
Re: Wanted: email address gleaner <NerveGas@see_signature.com>
Re: Wanted: email address gleaner <NerveGas@see_signature.com>
Where to get Perl compiler for Win95 or Win NT? <lenyywong@gulf.net>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 8 Mar 97) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:09:40 -0500
From: Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: "Newbie" Crib Notes
Message-Id: <35174017.6A16BB8B@coos.dartmouth.edu>
Steve Linberg wrote:
>
> In article <6f48sp$dn$1@gaia.ns.utk.edu>, "Bob Gwynne"
> <gwynne@utkux.utk.edu> wrote:
>
> > So! Abigail can whine about newbies asking questions that anyone with an IQ
> > above 60 can see the answer to or find in the FAQ right before their very
> > eyes. However, if the newbies try to help themselves, she jumps on them like
> > a courgar, screaming and tearing at their throats. Instead, she should be
> > happy that people are trying to help each other. But nooooooo.
>
> Abigail was pissed off for two entirely valid reasons: (1) Referring
> newbies to incomplete, poorly-thought-out solutions instead of the
> easy-to-find and painstakingly developed FAQ, and (2) illegal and
> unethical appropriation of her work. I would be livid too. Just because
> you're a newbie doesn't mean you can ignore common sense and common
> courtesy, to say nothing of copyright law.
As to (2), can't offer any defense for Mark there. A very unfortunate mistake
on his part. (Note: Although he neglected to attribute the answers, he did
not claim he had written them.)
But to (1), Abigail seemed to completely miss the fact that Mark himself is a
newbie (self-proclaimed). He was attempting to do a very good thing by
creating a resource for himself and other newbies containing useful answers to
questions. If the text he was collecting contained incomplete,
poorly-thought-out solutions, that is the fault of the posters. As I said,
Mark is a newbie - he may not be the best judge of a solution's correctness,
but he found those answers useful.
> If you would get off your horse and read her innumerable posts to this
> group, you would realize that Abigail knows more about Perl and
> programming than 99% of the people here combined.
> I've got a binder full of her posts.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Which is exactly what Mark was trying to do. A little hypocritical of you to
condemn him for doing something you do, don't you think? He just needs to
include attributions, and determine which answers are worth saving and which aren't.
> You could learn a lot from her if you didn't have that
> two-by-four on your shoulder.
Someone upset at being unfairly flamed has a chip on his shoulder? Nonsense.
Abigail went too far, and Mark was rightfully offended.
--
_ / ' _ / - aka - rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu
( /)//)//)(//)/( Ronald J. Kimball chipmunk@m-net.arbornet.org
/ http://www.ziplink.net/~rjk/
"It's funny 'cause it's true ... and vice versa."
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:23:13 GMT
From: jgloudon@manitoba.bbn.com (Jason Gloudon)
Subject: Re: /dev/fb error
Message-Id: <slrn6he9mf.c0u.jgloudon@manitoba.bbn.com>
eugene@vertical.net <eugene@vertical.net> wrote:
>I'm running a CGI script with suid on Solaris.
< Extra information removed>
>I understand the warning and what in my code generates it. But can someone
>explain the obscure reference to /dev/fd/31?
On some forms of Unix the kernel opens a setuid shell script on execution and
passes it to the interpreter, in this case perl, as /dev/fd/nnn. This is done
to plug a security hole found on many older Unix systems.
In old UNIXes the kernel would execute setuid scripts by starting
the interpreter (with the uid of the setuid script), and then giving it the
name of the script to execute. Using symbolic links it was possible to get
the kernel to start a setuid interepreter and trick that interpreter into
executing commands from a _non-setuid_ script with the setuid privileges.
--
Jason Gloudon
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:50:08 -0500
From: Birgitt Funk <birgitt@order.booktraders.com>
Subject: Re: Calling all Newbies
Message-Id: <35172D70.DD83D6D3@order.booktraders.com>
Doug Evans wrote:
>
> I would like to propose, that we "Newbies" set up a mail list, designed to
> help each other. I am "all the way up" to p. 25, of Learning Perl on Win32
> systems-:), and have already run into a number of problems. By the way,
> virtually every question that I have asked, on this newsgroup, was
> answered, or led me to the answer, to my problem.
>
Why then ? You say yourself every question you had you got help with.
What else can you ask for ?
> Any takers?
No way.
I suggest you read to page 198 first, then you reread and then
you read again...and then you read the index and then you read
"Programming Perl" and then you read "Regular Expressions" and
in between you read the FAQs. Great stuff, you know...
Birgitt Funk
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:56:36 +0100
From: martin@RADIOGAGA.HARZ.DE (Martin Vorlaender)
Subject: Re: CGI.pm
Message-Id: <351712d4.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>
nmcfadye@mae.carleton.ca wrote:
: I am trying to use CGI.pm but could not install it via th einstructions given:
: When doing
: perl Makefile.PL
: I get an error saying
: Syntax error in file Makefile.PL at line 1, next 2 tokens "use ExtUtils"
: Execution of Makefile.PL aborted due to compilation errors.
: I dont' seem to have ExtUtils on my system. How cna I fix this?
You need to upgrade your Perl to version 5. The above error message looks
a lot like Perl4.
: Also I do access the comp.lang.perl newsgroups without going thru dejanews.
: Why can't I access this newsgroup via Netscape Newsgroups, what is the server
: name?
Ask your sysadmin.
: Thanks in advance, please include e-mail
Ask here, get an answer here.
cu,
Martin
--
| Martin Vorlaender | VMS & WNT programmer
Ceterum censeo | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de
Redmondem delendam esse. | http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/
| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de
------------------------------
Date: 23 Mar 1998 23:17:58 -0500
From: hdiwan@shell.clark.net (Hasan Diwan)
Subject: Re: Challenge your programming skill
Message-Id: <6f7c5m$no6@shell.clark.net>
Residents living close together have the same zip code. New
York's upper west side (where my uncle lives) is 10019, however world
trade centre is 10023.
abigail@fnx.com (Abigail) writes:
>Bart Lateur (bart.mediamind@tornado.be) wrote on MDCLXIII September
>MCMXCIII in <URL: news:351b9588.4775289@news.tornado.be>:
>++ Abigail wrote:
>++
>++ >However, the human race,
>++ >specially in "modern" countries has the habit of all crawling together and
>++ >live on each others lap. Clusters of humans are sometimes called cities.
>++ >
>++ >If your customers are clustered, your approach doesn't work well.
>++
>++ Customers in the same city do tend to have the same ZIP-code, don't
>++ they?
>No.
>Abigail
>--
>perl -wle '$, = " "; sub AUTOLOAD {($AUTOLOAD =~ /::(.*)/) [0];}
> print+Just (), another (), Perl (), Hacker ();'
--
Hsiang Huang
University of California at Berkeley
Department of Electrical Engineering/Computer Science
hasandiwan@mindless.b.com <--- anti-spam remove b. to reply
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:04:59 -0800
From: William Wiley <wwiley@bedriver.com>
Subject: debugging Perl
Message-Id: <35173EFB.8D6839C@bedriver.com>
I am using strict with my scripts and appropriate my declarations.
Doing this I find that I can not use the perl debugger (perl -d) to
debug scripts as the variables are not in a scope the debugger
accesses. In addition if I use any kind of refference to a variable I
can not find it through the debugger.
Does anyone know of a usefull debugging environment for perl? Or am I
stuck using print statements.
Thanks
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:52:30 +1030
From: Daryl Tester <Daryl.Tester@au.com.steadycom>
Subject: eval, do FILE
Message-Id: <35174316.7AE6FC3@au.com.steadycom>
Greetings,
I came across this problem on the weekend, and it's messed with my
world view of Perl. Note that I'm not looking for a better way to do
this, I'm trying to understand why _this_ way doesn't work. Perl
version
is 5.004_04, running under Linux (2.0.18/30).
According to the perlfunc man page:
"do 'stat.pl'; is just like eval `cat stat.pl`;
except that it's more efficient, more concise, [etc etc]"
However, with the following (simplified from the code I was using):
File dud.inc:
$template{'Oi'} = 1;
and File dud:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
my %template;
# do 'dud.inc' if -r 'dud.inc'; # Line 6
eval `cat dud.inc` if -r 'dud.inc'; # Line 7
print (defined $template{'Oi'} ? "Woohoo!\n" : "D'oh!\n");
I get 'Woohoo!' if I use the eval on line 7, and 'D'oh!' if I use the
do on line 6. I presume it's a namespace/scoping issue here (I've read
what I think is the relevent docs until my forehead bled), but what
exactly is going on here?
Apologies if I've posted to the correct newsgroup. :-)
--
Daryl Tester (Daryl dot Tester at steadcom dot com dot au)
(Mail domain reversed - the things we do to avoid spam).
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:08:33 -1000
From: "Dan J." <danjezek@pixi.com>
Subject: Form Input
Message-Id: <351731C1.5F4606E6@pixi.com>
I have a very simple program that I want to run. I want to take input
from a HTML form
,have it run my perl program and write whatever's in the form to a file
on my comp (which is IBM, not unix.)
It's not working :-(
Here's the HTML form:
<FORM ACTION="c:\perl\bin\survey.pl" ...blah blah blah>
Here's the perl program:
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
##############################################
$input = <STDIN>;
open (OUTFILE,">test.txt") || die ("Error, Output file not found\n");
print OUTFILE ($input);
It works ok when I write the parameters on a command line in DOS, it
writes them to a file, but so far I haven't had success with the form.
What am I doing wrong? Once I figure this out, I can format or search
the input text any way I want, the problem is getting the form to pass
it's data into the perl program.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:07:03 GMT
From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M. Langmead)
Subject: Re: How to instrument Perl a subroutine
Message-Id: <EqB23r.7CK@world.std.com>
"Matthew D. Langston" <langston@SLAC.Stanford.EDU> writes:
>How do I write a Perl subroutine to instrument another Perl
>subroutine?
How about if you take a reference to the subroutine, use an anonymous
subroutine to add code to the original sub (perhaps using "goto &SUB"
to hide traces of the anonymous sub) and redefine the symbol table
through a typeglob.
sub foo {
print "I'm a foo\n";
}
sub wrapping_foo{
local(*orig) = $_[0];
my $sub = \&orig;
local($^W) = 0; # prevent "redefined" warning
*orig = sub { print "wrapping foo\n"; goto &{$sub} }
}
foo();
wrapping_foo(*foo);
foo();
--
Andrew Langmead
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:41:30 -0600
From: tim@maroney.org
Subject: Re: http not able to execute .pl file
Message-Id: <6f79t9$nu8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
In article <6f70ru$bsb$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
ericw@recom.com wrote:
> have a weird one here... any help apprec.!
> have a web page calling a password.pl file and get the error message:
>
> "The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable
> to complete your request."
>
> yet when i call the .pl script from the command line it works?
(I snipped the part where you say you checked permissions etc.)
Try putting this code snippet from Randal Schwartz at the start of your
script. If the script is getting entered at all you'll get a better error
message.
## death handler, presumes no output yet
$SIG{'__DIE__'} = $SIG{'__WARN__'} = sub {
my $error = shift;
chomp $error;
$error =~ s/[<&>]/"&#".ord($&).";"/ge; # entity escape;
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n[$error]\n";
exit 0;
};
-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:13:57 -0600
From: Gerald Hurst <ghurst@flex.net>
Subject: IIS, PERL, CGI
Message-Id: <351716E4.156F3BCF@flex.net>
I'm trying to get a PERL/CGI environment going on
my PC and I've got PERL 5.00404 working with NT
4.0 and IIS, but every time I submit a form, my
system pops open a DOS window and the script does
all of its work there instead of returning the
data to my browser window. It's as if Navigator
were using PERL as a helper application rather
than as a "behind the scenes" script interpreter.
I've got the right directory permissions set in
the internet services administration. The script
works fine from a command prompt. I can double
click the file in the file manager and it works
fine. I have the Script Map registry value set
correctly. I can't find any other answers from
the CPAN sites or FAQs.
I'm used to all of the gotchas in the UNIX world
where I have done this before, but I'm a little
confused here.
Thanks,
Jerry
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:28:58 -0500
From: Bob Trieger <sowmaster@juicepigs.com>
To: Gerald Hurst <ghurst@flex.net>
Subject: Re: IIS, PERL, CGI
Message-Id: <35173689.17EE@juicepigs.com>
Gerald Hurst wrote:
>
> I'm trying to get a PERL/CGI environment going on
> my PC and I've got PERL 5.00404 working with NT
> 4.0 and IIS, but every time I submit a form, my
> system pops open a DOS window and the script does
> all of its work there instead of returning the
> data to my browser window. It's as if Navigator
> were using PERL as a helper application rather
> than as a "behind the scenes" script interpreter.
>
> I've got the right directory permissions set in
> the internet services administration. The script
> works fine from a command prompt. I can double
> click the file in the file manager and it works
> fine. I have the Script Map registry value set
> correctly. I can't find any other answers from
> the CPAN sites or FAQs.
You are describing the problem that most have when .pl is not mapped
correctly in the registry.
The most common problem is Capital "S"s instead of %s %s
HTH
Bob Trieger
sowmaster@juicepigs.com
------------------------------
Date: 24 Mar 1998 04:30:26 GMT
From: dha@panix.com (David Adler)
Subject: Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl?
Message-Id: <6f7ct2$2bi@news1.panix.com>
On 18 Mar 1998 08:47:50 -0700, Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote:
>And that now makes me wonder... which will go away first... comp.lang.perl
>or perl4?
Oh, Randal... always the optimist - to think that *either* will *ever*
go away... :-)
--
David H. Adler - <dha@panix.com>
"The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum."
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:39:49 +0100
From: martin@RADIOGAGA.HARZ.DE (Martin Vorlaender)
Subject: Re: PerlRing???
Message-Id: <35171cf5.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>
Matt Curtin (cmcurtin@interhack.net) wrote:
: joergen.lang@schwaben.de (Joergen W. Lang) writes:
: > Since Perl is cross-platform, maybe it would be a good idea to have
: > a cross-platform version of the docs instead of (or complementing)
: > the pod-files ?
: pod is already cross-platform.
: What it sounds like is needed is an equivalent of perldoc(1) on
: non-Unix machines. (I assumed, apparently incorrectly, that perldoc
: was found everywhere that a recent version of Perl was.)
On every non-Unix platform I installed Perl on the "system" perl scripts
were made into shell scripts by prepending them with some lines (to call
perl from the shell) and naming them accordingly (i.e. .bat on Win32,
.cmd on OS/2, .com on VMS). So I assume there is perldoc(1) on non-Unix
machines (proof by empirical observation). It's just that command lines
aren't very popular with those WIMP (Windows, Icons, Menus, Pulldowns)
interfaces.
cu,
Martin
(To give due credit: the above usage of WIMP was keyed by Stephen "Hoff"
Hoffman in comp.os.vms)
--
| Martin Vorlaender | VMS & WNT programmer
Ceterum censeo | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de
Redmondem delendam esse. | http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/
| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:00:13 -0500
From: alecler@cam.org (Andre L.)
Subject: Re: Please help with ACGI vs. CGI in MacPerl
Message-Id: <alecler-2403980000130001@dialup-659.hip.cam.org>
In article <3516BDC6.157D@facstaff.wisc.edu>, Mark Gosink
<mmgosink@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
> Hello netters:
> I have been running into alot of trouble with a 32k limit to my
> output in a CGI application written in MacPerl to run on MacHTTP. I
> have heard that it is possible to get around this limit by using
> ACGI applications instead of CGI. Unfortunately, I know nothing about
> ACGI except that the A stands for asynchronous. If anyone could point
> me to a location where I could find out more on how to create ACGI
> applications I would appreciate it. (Do I need any additional plugins
> with MacPerl to create them?)
> Alternatively, if someone knows of Mac server software that is
> free or inexpensive that would not have these limits please let me
> know.
> Thanks.
> Mark
Mark,
To make a CGI asynchronous, simply change the .cgi extension of the script
to .acgi. Simple enough, eh? MacHTTP recognizes the extension. I don't
know if this will solve the 32k limit problem, though. I'm still as lost
as you are on this one.
So, if there is someone who's knowledgeable on MacPerl, is there or is
there not a limit to the size of data structures (scalars, arrays,
hashes...) in the Mac implementation of Perl? Is there a way to deal with
this? I have seen nothing, in any doc, module or read-me file in the
MacPerl 5.004 distribution, about this problem.
Thanks,
Andre L.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:29:47 GMT
From: mark@webz.com (Mark Schmick)
Subject: Re: Printing from Perl on NT box
Message-Id: <35173410.94241256@news.flash.net>
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:48:52 -0600, robert.abarbanel@boeing.com wrote:
>How do I open a filehandle for printing in Perl on NT?
>
>I want to be able to do something like
>open(P,"some way to designate a printer");
>print P "this string goes to printer";
>close P;
>
>Or - I need some way to accomplish the equivalent on NT.
Hi Bob,
Fancy meeting you here ;-) I noticed your post right when I
posted mine--I'll trade answers with ya:
I'm using the porters' version of Win32 Perl, at 5.004, and
output pipes work just fine, as in
open(FH, "dir|");
print join("", <FH>);
So you should be able to just open an output pipe to the
print command--but which one you say? I'm running Win32
at the moment, and I'm too lazy to flick over to NT--
but I assume that a command line version is available
either natively, in the NT Resource Kit, or as a last
resort in the MKS Toolkit.
Hope that helps. Now can you proffer any help with that
Perl debugger glitch?
Mark
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:33:58 -0500
From: Ronald J Kimball <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: splicing element of a LoL
Message-Id: <351745CB.F788EB3B@coos.dartmouth.edu>
Roland Huss wrote:
>
> > @{$_}[$item] = '';
>
> oops,
> ${S_}[$item] = '';
>
> of course. (I wonder, why an array as lvalue in a scalar context
> still works. Ok, not really an array, but it looks like.)
What scalar context? It's the left-hand side of an assignment that determines
the context, not the right-hand side!
--
_ / ' _ / - aka - rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu
( /)//)//)(//)/( Ronald J. Kimball chipmunk@m-net.arbornet.org
/ http://www.ziplink.net/~rjk/
"It's funny 'cause it's true ... and vice versa."
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:41:13 +0300
From: "Rodion Levotchka" <rodion@incoma.ru>
Subject: udp
Message-Id: <6f5433$2ss$1@proxy.icsti.su>
hi!
Please, help me with the following script. I need to send a string from one
host to another (the daemon program on that host actually) and get an
answer string via UDP. How can i do that in perl?
I would really appreciate a copy of your answer via e-mail
(rodion@incoma.ru). Thanks in advance.
Rod.
------------------------------
Date: 24 Mar 1998 03:37:18 GMT
From: Zenin <zenin@archive.rhps.org>
Subject: Re: Using perl code as a config file syntax? (Or, can require return more then one value?)
Message-Id: <890711012.317823@thrush.omix.com>
Martin Gregory <mgregory@asc.sps.mot.com> wrote:
: Although a numbr of solutions to the question of 'how to do this with
: require' have been suggested, there is indeed a "Better Way(TM)". Use
: a package:
I think you meen module, not package (packages exist in required
files as well, infact they exist everywhere even if you don't ask
for them).
This brings up two problems however. The first is the same as with
building a global structure with a required file, that being the
application has limited control over how and where the structure is
stored. If it's imported, it's done so as a package global with a
preset name. If it's not imported, it must then be further copied
to some other location (my %config = %Utility::Config::ConfigInfo).
While this would allow for multiple config variables to be set at
once in a single file, this can also be done with a simple
multi-level structure.
The second problem is that use is a compile time directive that can
not be wrapped nicely in an eval(), or at least not a block eval().
This makes it harder to reload the file later. The exact names of
the variables would also need to be known even if an eval("") was
done later. -Yes, it's vary common for a server to need to reload
it's config on the fly without needing to be restarted.
The use of a module has no advantages over a required file. It's
basically the same, with the compile time (in this case) problem.
: use Utility::Config('%ConfigInfo');
Forces me to call it %ConfigInfo, as a package global.
: %ThisCopy = %Utility::ConfigInfo;
Actually, this would be:
my %ThisCopy = %Utility::Config::ConfigInfo;
: # another...
: use vars '%ConfigInfo';
: %ThisCopy = %ConfigInfo;
Actually, this would still be:
%ThisCopy = %Utility::Config::ConfigInfo;
Unless you import %ConfigInfo, which kind of eliminates the reason
to copy it to %ThisCopy.
do() and/or require() (IMHO) are the best ways to do this. The
reload problem is one of my main concerns. Also, since it's built
as an anonymous structure the package it's built in doesn't matter.
The file also can be located in any directory to be found, instead
of needing to be in Utility/ or whathaveyou since I can give
do()/require() the actual filename. -The use statement requires the
use of a bare word module name, requiring that I add the base config
directory to @INC and any package structure as directories if used.
If I want to use /etc/mydaemon.conf I have to add /etc to my @INC,
which I'd rather not do. :-)
--
-Zenin
zenin@archive.rhps.org
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:08:22 GMT
From: Webmaster <webmaster@fccjmail.fccj.cc.fl.us>
Subject: Re: Wanted: email address gleaner
Message-Id: <3517305B.115919A9@fccjmail.fccj.cc.fl.us>
John Moreno wrote:
> Well, I've already written one that works well enough for what I needed
> it for - I'll volunteer to provide it for a measly 3k (I need a G3, but
> not the Ultrasparc).
>
> --
> John Moreno
G3 - Ultrasparc :-)
OK, You get a G3, I get an Ultrasparc :-)
Deal?
Sneex :-)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:37:43 -0700
From: NerveGas <NerveGas@see_signature.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: email address gleaner
Message-Id: <35168FD7.A46@see_signature.com>
> >Please give a reason why sending the same unsolicited message to thousands of
> >people *isn't* spam.
>
> So the Perl MiniFAQ that everybody that posts in this newsgroup for the
> first time, gets, is spam? It must be.
No, because they made a request for the information in the first place
by posting a question. They're just getting the info via email, not
usenet.
steve
--
----------------------------------------
Domain name for replying is "inconnect".
----------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:39:50 -0700
From: NerveGas <NerveGas@see_signature.com>
Subject: Re: Wanted: email address gleaner
Message-Id: <35169056.69CB@see_signature.com>
> Actually, I don't mind the tone. I'm just looking for the facts.
> So far Stanley has seemed to be wrong, has omitted pertinent
> facts. See my last post above if it ain't all too boring for you yet.
> I'm willing to be convinced that my project is spammish, but they
> haven't done it yet.
Maybe what you should be willing to admit is that if you haven't
already gotten help from someone in this group, you probably aren't
going to. Besides, it looks like you've spent enough time refuting the
allegations of spamming that you could have just learned how to write
the program yourself, not to mention finding many pre-made programs that
do exactly what you want.
steve
--
----------------------------------------
Domain name for replying is "inconnect".
----------------------------------------
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:07:18 -0600
From: "Lennart Wong" <lenyywong@gulf.net>
Subject: Where to get Perl compiler for Win95 or Win NT?
Message-Id: <6f7f1n$42k@cobia.gulf.net>
I am a newcomer of Perl. Yet, all I have in hand is the "Learning Perl"
book. I want to get a compiler to try Perl out. I have close-to-none
experience with UNIX and have a PC with Win95 and Win NT. Can anyone tell
me where I can get a FREE Perl compiler for Win95 or Win NT? Thank you very
much!
------------------------------
Date: 8 Mar 97 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
Subject: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 8 Mar 97)
Message-Id: <null>
Administrivia:
The Perl-Users Digest is a retransmission of the USENET newsgroup
comp.lang.perl.misc. For subscription or unsubscription requests, send
the single line:
subscribe perl-users
or:
unsubscribe perl-users
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu.
To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.misc (and this Digest), send your
article to perl-users@ruby.oce.orst.edu.
To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.announce, send your article to
clpa@perl.com.
To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
The Meta-FAQ, an article containing information about the FAQ, is
available by requesting "send perl-users meta-faq". The real FAQ, as it
appeared last in the newsgroup, can be retrieved with the request "send
perl-users FAQ". Due to their sizes, neither the Meta-FAQ nor the FAQ
are included in the digest.
The "mini-FAQ", which is an updated version of the Meta-FAQ, is
available by requesting "send perl-users mini-faq". It appears twice
weekly in the group, but is not distributed in the digest.
For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
------------------------------
End of Perl-Users Digest V8 Issue 2169
**************************************
