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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 2089 Volume: 8
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Fri Mar 13 11:08:52 1998
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 08:00:43 -0800
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Perl-Users Digest Fri, 13 Mar 1998 Volume: 8 Number: 2089
Today's topics:
building perl 5.004.04 on hpux10.20 -- pxdb problem?? <tstirrat@lvld.hp.com>
Re: cgi-lib.pl available on oracle webserver3.0.1.8 ? (I R A Aggie)
closing files (sometimes not & effiency) (dk smith)
Closure with magical $_ as parameter (instead of @_) <mancuso@rimes.com>
Re: cookies? (Keith L. Miller)
Re: detecting failures in glob (Andrew M. Langmead)
file locking info (dk smith)
Re: find a word (Greg Bacon)
Re: find a word <jdf@pobox.com>
Re: Good Perl book (User)
Re: Good Perl book (Ed Jamison)
Re: got a problem... <kmiles@erols.com>
Help ! I'm begginer..... <belle@iki.rssi.ru>
Help sought with web programming security problem <wd@isporg.com>
Re: Help: Better way to retrieve the configuration file (Andrew M. Langmead)
Help: ERROR 33 Code <robertc@mall.it.NOSPAM>
Re: Help: ERROR 33 Code (I R A Aggie)
Re: Help: Getting rid of warning messages <areeves@us.ibm.com>
Re: How to export an environment variable ? <Mike_Lacey@Cargill.Com>
Re: How to use Perl for Win95? <mark@imp.net>
Re: How to use Perl for Win95? <jwilson@ic.ac.uk>
Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl? <stackhou@elk.cray.com>
Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl? (I R A Aggie)
Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl? (I R A Aggie)
Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl? <stackhou@elk.cray.com>
ls -l to an array and pull 3 columns on data grindrod@tfn.com
Re: ls -l to an array and pull 3 columns on data <Tony.Curtis+usenet@vcpc.univie.ac.at>
Re: ls -l to an array and pull 3 columns on data (Collin Rogowski)
Re: New problem .... <ben@wallroyds.demon.co.uk>
Re: Perl4 vs Perl 5 - SUMMARY (perl4/5 - Upgrade to Per (User)
Re: Perl4 vs Perl 5 (User)
perldoc -f question <rxruck2@uswest.com>
Re: Q: Threads (in 5.004_62) and signals (Malcolm Beattie)
Re: read/write file while locked <jdf@pobox.com>
Redirecting to a script on another server. <G.S.Cooper@iti.salford.ac.uk>
Re: tainted glob confusion (Greg Bacon)
Trimming a Variable payne.jim@hq.navy.mil
Re: Trimming a Variable <qdtcall@esb.ericsson.se>
Re: What is PERL? Learn JAVA instead? <jdporter@min.net>
Re: Why no "next/last/redo" with do? <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
Win32 Perl question keydet89@yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:26:45 -0700
From: Tom Stirrat <tstirrat@lvld.hp.com>
Subject: building perl 5.004.04 on hpux10.20 -- pxdb problem??
Message-Id: <35095034.AC39B6F4@lvld.hp.com>
Hi all:
When I try to build perl on a 725/60 I get a couple hundred of these
warnings before the
build aborts. When I try the same build on a C-180 there are no
problems.
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11245] out of synch
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11246] out of synch
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11247] out of synch
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11248] out of synch
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11249] out of synch
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11250] out of synch
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11251] out of synch
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11252] out of synch
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11253] out of synch
pxdb internal warning: cu[4]: SLT_SRCFILE[11254] out of synch
I am assuming something is wrong with the environment or there is some
type of
compiler option incompatibility, but I need to know how to fix it. Can
anyone help???
Thanks in advance.
--
Tom Stirrat
tstirrat@lvld.hp.com
970-679-3756
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:45:27 -0500
From: fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: cgi-lib.pl available on oracle webserver3.0.1.8 ?
Message-Id: <fl_aggie-1303980945270001@aggie.coaps.fsu.edu>
In article <6eajk6$o0t$1@green.kreonet.re.kr>, passman@taewool.co.kr (Lee
Sang Joon) wrote:
+ cgi-lib.pl available on oracle webserver3.0.1.8 ?
+ Plz tell me about that by detail.
Don't use it cgi-lib.pl.
James - rather important detail...
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:33:03 -0800
From: dks@mediaweb.com (dk smith)
Subject: closing files (sometimes not & effiency)
Message-Id: <dks-1303980633030001@tulini.mediaweb.com>
In the Blue Camel book on page 151, the text says that you do not have to
explicitly close a FILEHANDLE if you are immediately going to do another
open on it.
What consititutes immediately?
Does this also hold true for files that opened for writing/appending as
well as for files that are opened for reading?
Seems like really bad form to me; to write a program that behaves this
way. Is the imprvement in efficiency of not making an extra close() call
worth the extra headache and maintenance required to mange code that is
written this way? Whenever I see code like this it is usually not very
strcutured and accompanied by sudden logic breaks and/or subroutines that
have multiple return lines depending on various conditions, kinda
goto-ish.
Anybody else experience this? Or know waht would happen if this file open
for appending is NOT closed many many times?
dk
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:10:04 -0500
From: Frederic Mancuso <mancuso@rimes.com>
Subject: Closure with magical $_ as parameter (instead of @_)
Message-Id: <35094C4C.2841B3EE@rimes.com>
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Is there a way to write closures or subroutines (for storage in a hash
for example) in the same style as with grep or map.
I would like to wite something like :
$subs{FOO}= sub { $_+1 };
in the same way as I would write
map { $_+1 } @list;
Obviously I could use $_[0] instead, but I was wondering.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:20:19 GMT
From: miller@bigsky.net (Keith L. Miller)
Subject: Re: cookies?
Message-Id: <35094e2d.60501171@news.bigsky.net>
Ooops, sorry about that. Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I want my
perl cgi script to read the data from the form, put it into a cookie,
and then send it off to another server running a different script.
Both scripts will be displayed in its own frame. The reason I need
the cookie is because I don't know of any other way to call two perl
scripts from one form. Now, can anyone help me with this problem?
On 13 Mar 1998 08:47:19 +0100, Calle Dybedahl
<qdtcall@esb.ericsson.se> wrote:
>"Keith L. Miller" <miller@bigsky.net> writes:
>
>> Can anyone tell me how to use cookie's to bring information into my
>> forms? I have seen some things on this, but really would like more
>> details.
>
>Someone in one of the www-technical newsgroups probably can. This is a
>newsgroup about the Perl programming language. May I suggest that you
>upgrade to a newsreader that tells which group you're posting to, so
>that you won't make this silly mistake again?
>--
> Calle Dybedahl, UNIX Sysadmin
> qdtcall@esavionics.se http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:07:46 GMT
From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M. Langmead)
Subject: Re: detecting failures in glob
Message-Id: <EprJCy.8nD@world.std.com>
Andrew Simms <andrew@corp.webtv.net> writes:
>Stepping in the debugger I found that a call to glob before the cleanup
>code was returning empty list instead of the files (which were present
>in readable directories) to be cleaned up.
How about if you work around your problem by using the
opendir()/readdir()/closedir() calls instead of glob()?
--
Andrew Langmead
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:40:33 -0800
From: dks@mediaweb.com (dk smith)
Subject: file locking info
Message-Id: <dks-1303980640330001@tulini.mediaweb.com>
Hi,
Is there any perl-specific documentation on the subject of when to lock
files for reading and or writing? Can someone suggest where I could this
info? Does Berkeley-DB lib implement a file access policy or must it be
handled by the programmer?
Thanks
dk
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Date: 13 Mar 1998 15:09:21 GMT
From: gbacon@cs.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: find a word
Message-Id: <6ebi71$hom$2@info.uah.edu>
[Posted and mailed]
In article <35091FC2.E7DBC8F3@etsetb.upc.es>,
Francesc Guasch <frankie@etsetb.upc.es> writes:
: I'd appreaciate if someone could give me an example
: of how to find the first word in a string.
$first_word = (split ' ', $string, 2)[0];
Hope this helps,
Greg
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d2ac158c84c4ece4d22d1000118a8d5491000000
EOF
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Date: 13 Mar 1998 10:37:55 -0500
From: Jonathan Feinberg <jdf@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: find a word
Message-Id: <90qebnzg.fsf@news.concentric.net>
Francesc Guasch <frankie@etsetb.upc.es> writes:
> Hi. I've been doing perl thingies for a short time
> Now I'm trying some regexp. I got the camel but the
> explanations I found are too short for me.
Have you read perlre? That's the definitive manual for Perl regular
expressions. But the explanation in the Camel book is more than
adequate for the task at hand, which is to match the first word in a
string. Go back to the Camel (2nd edition) and see pages 58-76. On
the very bottom of page 70 you'll find an example that, with some
modification, will do what you need.
If you have not yet read _Learning Perl_, you should do so before
tackling the Camel.
--
Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:34:19 GMT
From: you@somehost.somedomain (User)
Subject: Re: Good Perl book
Message-Id: <350943a0.3180823@news.btinternet.com>
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:05:57 -0600, bwb@acm.org wrote:
8-< Snip !
I'll vouce for Perl for Dummies, geat book , you can actually read it
as a book rather than a dry text book, not geat at the advanced stuff
but really good for beginners.
>
> http://www.flathill.com/languages/perl/
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:21:06 GMT
From: edwardt@i.really.really.hate.spam.jamison.com (Ed Jamison)
Subject: Re: Good Perl book
Message-Id: <MPG.f73078a14fb8766989682@news.ais.net>
Hmmm, no. Avoid this one if you can. It fits well in the listings with
the other ones. Sub par quality. Stick with Learning Perl, or
Programming Perl.
Ed
Long ago (Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:34:19 GMT), in a land far far away,
you@somehost.somedomain spouted nonsense similar to this...
> On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:05:57 -0600, bwb@acm.org wrote:
>
> 8-< Snip !
>
> I'll vouce for Perl for Dummies, geat book , you can actually read it
> as a book rather than a dry text book, not geat at the advanced stuff
> but really good for beginners.
> >
> > http://www.flathill.com/languages/perl/
> >
> >
> >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
> >http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:33:06 -0500
From: Kevin Miles <kmiles@erols.com>
Subject: Re: got a problem...
Message-Id: <350951B2.776D@erols.com>
ENV{'QUERY_STRING'} containes all data after the initial ?
however, CGI.pm is recommended
Magnus "ShockMan" Blikstad wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> i have been working with perl now for some time to write simple cgi
> scripts, and now i got a small problem. So far all input to my scripts
> have been coming from HTML forms. but now im creating a script to handle
> a combined database and search engine and i need to get the input from
> the url... i know that you can pass input to scripts by adding a ? after
> the script in the url and then add what ever you want after that. but
> how do i read it!? to read from forms i use read(STDIN, $buffer,
> ENV{'CONTENT_LENGHT'}; and then split up the variables with the split
> command. well... hope someone can help me with this. please email me
> since i dont have time to check newsgroups to often...
>
> Thanx
>
> -Magnus Blikstad
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:13:37 +0300
From: "T.S.Belle" <belle@iki.rssi.ru>
Subject: Help ! I'm begginer.....
Message-Id: <6ebbcc$8jf$1@zware.space.ru>
it don't work , i don,t know why....
Please , help me...(I'm fresh for Perl) :-)
==================================
#....somecode....
write;
}
format STDOUT =
@<<<<<<<<<< @<<<<<<<<<< @<<<<<<<<<<
$lastname ,$name,$phone
.
format STDOUT_TOP =
Page @<<
$%
Firstname Name Phone
=================== ================ ========
.
belle@iki.rssi.ru
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:47 +0000
From: Woody Durham <wd@isporg.com>
Subject: Help sought with web programming security problem
Message-Id: <3508F97E.61B4@isporg.com>
I am in need of a way of providing web page readers with a visual
certification that they are viewing an "official" web page and
not someone's copy of it. I have been thinking along the lines
of developing a "seal of approval" gif file image which will be kept
secure. At the top of each web page using this scheme would be a request
to a CGI program for the "seal of approval" image. If the requesting
page were a "proper" one (i.e. located on the secured server rather
than on someone's own server) the program would return the gif file.
Otherwise, the program would return a different "seal of unapproval"
gif file contents.
So, can one do this and if so how or what might be another approach?
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:23:26 GMT
From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M. Langmead)
Subject: Re: Help: Better way to retrieve the configuration file?
Message-Id: <EprK32.KtJ@world.std.com>
Tommy <tkho@technologist.com> writes:
>I have a question on how to use configuration file for several perl
>scripts.
>Can I use "use" or "require"? Can I not put the file in the @INC?
With the setup you explain, you can use "require" or "do" on the
file. Yes, require will search @INC for it. (If the file isn't in
@INC, and you don't want to put it there, then all you need to do is
to put a full or relative path to the file.
Using "use" requires a bit of change in the way your configuration
file looks. There is a quite a bit of boilerplate code that is needed
to make a module. One convienient way of generating this boilerplate
code is to use the h2xs utility to create a template for you. You just
need to use some extra switches to tell perl that you aren't linking
in C code.
h2xs -AXcf -n ModuleName
Then you can edit ModuleName/ModuleName.pm as needed.
See the perlmod, perlmodlib, and h2xs man pages for more info.
--
Andrew Langmead
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:50:42 +0100
From: "R.C." <robertc@mall.it.NOSPAM>
Subject: Help: ERROR 33 Code
Message-Id: <350939B2.3ED8F53C@mall.it.NOSPAM>
Hi,
I am installing PERL 5.004 on an SGI IRIX 6.4 box. When I finish the
Configuration utility and run a make, I get the following error
messages:
cc -32 -L/usr/lib -L/lib -o miniperl miniperlmain.o libperl.a
-lm -lc
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "__new_cfgetospeed" -- 1st
referenced by miniperlmain.o.
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "__new_cfsetospeed" -- 1st
referenced by miniperlmain.o.
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "__new_cfgetispeed" -- 1st
referenced by miniperlmain.o.
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "__new_cfsetispeed" -- 1st
referenced by miniperlmain.o.
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "__new_tcgetattr" -- 1st referenced
by miniperlmain.o.
ld: ERROR 33: Unresolved text symbol "__new_tcsetattr" -- 1st referenced
by miniperlmain.o.
ld: INFO 60: Output file removed because of error.
*** Error code 1 (bu21)
can someone please help?
Thanks...Rob.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:44:20 -0500
From: fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Help: ERROR 33 Code
Message-Id: <fl_aggie-1303980944200001@aggie.coaps.fsu.edu>
In article <350939B2.3ED8F53C@mall.it.NOSPAM>, "R.C."
<robertc@mall.it.NOSPAM> wrote:
[posted && cc'd]
+ can someone please help?
Get the pre-compiled, inst'able distribution from Scott Henry?
<url:http://reality.sgi.com/scotth/info/perl5.html>
I know that's not the Perl way. But I couldn't get perl 5.004 to
compile under IRIX, either... :\
James
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To cure your perl CGI problems, please look at:
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:33:17 -0500
From: Adam Reeves <areeves@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Help: Getting rid of warning messages
Message-Id: <3509359D.7F34041F@us.ibm.com>
Sorry... I assumed the message was generated because of the 'use strict'
pragma, but it is really caused by the '-w' or 'use diagnostics' pragma.
But, that still doesn't answer my question. I do have a valid reason for only
using that variable once, because I just want to echo out the values that are
returned by form. So I guess, the next question is am I supposed to use the
'use vars' pragma to solve this problem? If so how? How do other people who
write CGI's solve this problem?
Here's an unrelated question....
Are you supposed to use either '-w' or the 'use diagnostics' pragma? Or can you
use both? In the camel book they say that the 'use diagnostics' enables the
'-w' flag.
Cheers,
Adam Reeves
Abigail wrote:
> Well, yes, $Q::description is fully qualified. But where in the
> above description of the warning does it say anything about
> fully qualified names?
>
> It says 'Name "Q::description" used only once'. And it's only
> used once in your program.
>
> Abigail
> --
> perl -wle 'print "Prime" if (1 x shift) !~ /^1?$|^(11+?)\1+$/'
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:33:58 -0000
From: "Mike Lacey" <Mike_Lacey@Cargill.Com>
Subject: Re: How to export an environment variable ?
Message-Id: <6ebg4o$mn6@wind.cargill.com>
The array %ENV is what you need.
Set it like this in a perl script:
$ENV{'PATH'}='/bin;/usr/bin;/usr/local/bin';
and then do something that shells an external program (like the system()
command) and that command will run with the new $PATH variable.
Mike
myself@technologist.com wrote in message
<6e6bs3$j05$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>Is it possible to export an environment variable in a perl script ?We want
>to call PGP and to pass it some environment variables.Thanks for your help.
>[QSD]
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:21:07 -0500
From: "Mark Polakow" <mark@imp.net>
Subject: Re: How to use Perl for Win95?
Message-Id: <6ebfl9$ndm$1@viper.america.net>
You need to set up script permisssions in whatever directory you put the
perl script and make sure the script's parameters are set properly and then
call the script from a file through yur Win95 webserve whatever that is...
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Date: 13 Mar 1998 15:09:19 GMT
From: "Jeff Wilson" <jwilson@ic.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: How to use Perl for Win95?
Message-Id: <01bd4e91$f6a1b860$d53ec69b@leicester>
I run perl on winnt now but I think the win95 process was as follows ...
Create a perl script with an editor - save it as anything you like, but a
suffix of ".pl" is usual, i.e., fred.pl
Run "pl2bat.exe fred.pl" which will create a dos executable, fred.bat.
Execute fred.bat in a dos window.
Alternatively set a file type for .pl in the My Computer options window.
The command should be something like .. c:\perl\bin\perl.exe % (this may
have been done by the install already).
Then a right-click OPEN on any file suffixed .pl will run it.
Jeff Wilson
London - UK
Maxine G. <*nospam*mg*nospam*@*nospam*pcg*nospam.net> wrote in article
<6e9toj$ih4@examiner.concentric.net>...
> I think I'm missing a very basic concept:
> I've downloaded and installed the Activestate Win32 version of Perl and
> PerlScript on my Win95 machine. Now what do I do? If I double-click on
any of
> the three .exe files in the bin directory, a dos window opens briefly and
then
> closes.
> So, what do I need to do to create and run perl scripts in this
environment? I
> couldn't find anything about this in the documentation, but perhaps I
wasn't
> looking in the right place.It seems like such an obvious question, so I
assume
> that the answer must be obvious too.
>
> tia!
>
>
> *********************************************************
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> Remove "NOSPAM" in the return address
> Maxine Gerber
> PCG Systems
> *********************************************************
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:11:53 -0600
From: Mark P Stackhouse <stackhou@elk.cray.com>
To: Jonathan Feinberg <jdf@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl?
Message-Id: <35093099.1372@elk.cray.com>
Jonathan Feinberg wrote:
>
> Mark Stackhouse <stackhou@execpc.com> writes:
>
Capice!
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> Now, nobody here minds answering questions. But if a question is
> already answered in the documentation that accompanies perl, or --
> worse yet -- is in one of the FAQs, then people get impatient. If you
> don't understand the *answer* that's in the documentation; if you need
> *clarification* on a technical point; if you need *further examples*
> of a usage, then by all means, post here. But make sure you say "I've
> consulted perlfaq6 concerning multiline matches, and I still don't get
> the difference between /m and /s," or whatever, so we'll know 1) that
> you've at least tried to figure it out for yourself and 2) exactly
> where your confusion lies.
>
> Capice?
>
> --
> Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:56:08 -0500
From: fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl?
Message-Id: <fl_aggie-1303980956080001@aggie.coaps.fsu.edu>
In article <6e9qcv$rb1@newsops.execpc.com>, Mark Stackhouse
<stackhou@execpc.com> wrote:
+ Don't you Pros know that suggesting we look in this perldoc
+ or that perldoc doesn't really help someone who can't
+ understand the docs because we don't know enough about the
+ language yet?
If you can't understand the docs, why are you asking questions here?
Why not go back to the Llama and review the material until you have
a better understanding?
In either case, you should still check the FAQ (perldoc perlfaq) to
see if what you seek is in there. The FAQ answers are usually in a
digestable form.
James
--
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
To cure your perl CGI problems, please look at:
<url:http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html>
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:42:13 -0500
From: fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl?
Message-Id: <fl_aggie-1303981042140001@aggie.coaps.fsu.edu>
In article <3508c605.180930773@news.xmission.com>, doswald@xmission.com wrote:
+ A newbie newsgroup would indeed be a nightmare; a zillion questions
+ (not unlike this group's current state of affairs) and a half zillion
+ wrong answers.
Worse than that, tho. The newbies would avoid such a newsgroup and
go looking for the perl wizards newsgroup.
Say...instead of clp.mod, why not create clp.newbie and clp.wizards.
All the newbies would ask their questions in wizards, and leave newbie
alone...
James
--
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
To cure your perl CGI problems, please look at:
<url:http://www.perl.com/CPAN-local/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html>
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:45:36 -0600
From: Mark P Stackhouse <stackhou@elk.cray.com>
To: doswald@xmission.com
Subject: Re: Is there a "Newsgroup" for Newbies to Perl?
Message-Id: <350954A0.2C67@elk.cray.com>
David Oswald wrote:
>
> But don't you understand? This isn't a helpdesk.
My point exactly! We need a "helpdesk"!
> I've been putting in the effort; got a minor in Comp. Sci., read cover
> to cover (and re-read) the Camel, Llama, Owls, and Mouse books, spent
> a lot of time at www.perl.com, worn holes in the soles of DejaNews,
Do you really expect a "Newbie" to buy and read 4 books at the same
time? I have, and am reading "Learning Perl", but I still get confused
sometimes. Sorry, but my mind isn't a steel trap! I DO, use the
resources available on-line but they're not very friendly... to a
"Newbie", the answer can be more confusing than the question. All we
get from the docs is the syntax...very few examples to learn from.
> and received clarification through the FAQs. There is practically no
> 'newbie' question that isn't answered online already without turning
> to the keyboard and this Usenet group. Why do people resent being
> asked FAQ type questions on this group? Because most of those who
> have a firm grasp on Perl obtained it through nothing less than
> painstaking study and practice; not by asking a bunch of already-asked
> questions on this Usenet group. ...and asking questions here isn't
> really going to help you to learn the language. You'll learn the
> answer to your question (maybe) but not how to think in Perl. You can
> only learn that through time-consuming study.
Agreed... but when you're attempting something new, you want to see
results... I guess I'm a little impatient that way. After all... isn't
that why Perl was developed in the first place... to get results
quickly?
>
> >Don't you Pros know that suggesting we look in this perldoc
> >or that perldoc doesn't really help someone who can't
> >understand the docs because we don't know enough about the
> >language yet? Most of the online docs I've read just add
> >more to the confusion! These are fine for someone who
> >already knows the language and just needs a refresher
> >but for someone just learning... they suck.
>
> They're accurate and to the point. For a more sugar-coated approach
> turn to Learning Perl, www.perl.com, etc.
If you'd read ALL of my original post, you'd know I ALREADY HAVE IT, but
sometimes just stating something from a different perspective or with
different verbiage makes something "click" and it all makes sense.
>
> >We need a good list of tutorials, our own Newsgroup, some
> >good books, and a few mentors who don't mind answering (and
> >explaining) our "Newbie" questions. Then we get out of your
> >bandwidth.
>
> A newbie newsgroup would indeed be a nightmare; a zillion questions
> (not unlike this group's current state of affairs) and a half zillion
> wrong answers. Go to the books; that's where you'll find the truth.
> There are pleanty of mentors at the University. They get paid, and
^
With all your education, I'd think you could at LEAST spell, or learn
how to use a spell checker. The word is "plenty" not "pleanty".
> they're called professors, tutors, teaching assistants, etc.
Sorry... I'm not a student (literally) anymore, although I do believe
life is about learning. Believe me, if I can find an on-line class or a
night class next Fall, (we are in the middle of Spring semester you
know) I'll be the first one in line. Right now, I'm on the "job" and
expected to produce results now, not next Fall.
>
> Your attitude is the Internet's version of a street beggar, who with
> his ragged appearence manages to avoid all of the legitimate channels
^ "appearance" ;-)
> for assistance in favor of bumming quarters off of unsuspecting
> citizens on the street corner. Make something of yourself, don't
> expect our pittance to carry you through your education. We're fresh
> out of quarters.
Excuse me... how dare you label me a "street beggar"... you know nothing
of my background, where I come from, or my education! I didn't ask for
any of YOUR quarters anyway. But, this is typical of the response we
get from the Gurus. I'm starting to think you're afraid we just might
learn as much as you already know... do you feel threatened?
Well, enough said, we're both wasting bandwidth.
--
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:01:30 -0600
From: grindrod@tfn.com
Subject: ls -l to an array and pull 3 columns on data
Message-Id: <6ebe4u$c0e$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I am trying to send the output of the ls -l command to and array or filehandle
and the print only 3 of the 9 columns of the output for each line. I did not
see anything in the FAQ or recent messeges addressing this and have exhaused
mey efforts to get the desired result. Can some shed light on how to do this?
I am using perl 5 on SCO Unix.
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Date: 13 Mar 1998 16:23:38 +0100
From: Tony Curtis <Tony.Curtis+usenet@vcpc.univie.ac.at>
To: grindrod@tfn.com
Subject: Re: ls -l to an array and pull 3 columns on data
Message-Id: <7xg1kmzkat.fsf@beavis.vcpc.univie.ac.at>
Re: ls -l to an array and pull 3 columns on data, grindrod
<grindrod@tfn.com> said:
grindrod> I am trying to send the output of the ls -l
grindrod> command to and array or filehandle and the print
grindrod> only 3 of the 9 columns of the output for each
grindrod> line. I did not see anything in the FAQ or recent
grindrod> messeges addressing this and have exhaused mey
grindrod> efforts to get the desired result.
I think it's better to find out about `opendir', `readdir'
and `stat' rather than answer the question above.
hth
tony
--
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Liechtensteinstrasse 22, A-1090 Wien, AT | http://www.vcpc.univie.ac.at/
"Everything I am, I learned on the back of cereal boxes" ~ RJ, "Over the Hedge"
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:25:35 GMT
From: collin@rogowski.de (Collin Rogowski)
Subject: Re: ls -l to an array and pull 3 columns on data
Message-Id: <35094182.694820268@news.uni-X.net>
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:01:30 -0600, grindrod@tfn.com wrote:
@files = `ls -l`;
foreach (@files) {
@rows = split/\s/$_/9;
print $rows[0]; print $rows[5]; #...
}
>I am trying to send the output of the ls -l command to and array or filehandle
>and the print only 3 of the 9 columns of the output for each line. I did not
>see anything in the FAQ or recent messeges addressing this and have exhaused
>mey efforts to get the desired result. Can some shed light on how to do this?
>I am using perl 5 on SCO Unix.
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:11 -0000
From: "Ben" <ben@wallroyds.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: New problem ....
Message-Id: <889794250.7567.0.nnrp-02.c2de5b4a@news.demon.co.uk>
Hello all who answered to my question.
Thank you very much for helping out and giving me the advices.
I did what you all said - I copied (typed) the code to another file - And it
did the trick.
Thanks again for helping me out :)
Is there any newsgroup for newcomers like me? (Ie - full of newcomers, as
there were some people who complained about me posting those questions)
Regards
Ben :)
(PS - Sorry about my bad English - It is my second language)
Ben wrote in message
<889692133.25548.0.nnrp-02.c2de5b4a@news.demon.co.uk>...
>The print stuff problem has solved ... But this one can't be solved by
>myself ....
>
>Can't find string terminator "end_of_html" anywhere before EOF at id2.cgi
>line 3
>.
>
>The code is ...
>
>#!/usr/local/bin/perl
>
>print <<"end_of_html";
>
>Content-Type: text/html\n\n
><HTML>\n
><BODY BGCOLOR=\"#000000\" TEXT=\"#FF0000\">\n\n
><FONT FACE=\"vendana\" SIZE=\"3\">\n
>Your IP address - $ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'}\n\n
></BODY>\n
></HTML>
>
>end_of_html
>
>Anyone?
>
>Sorry again for posting so many questions!
>
>Regards
>
>Ben :)
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:47:40 GMT
From: you@somehost.somedomain (User)
Subject: Re: Perl4 vs Perl 5 - SUMMARY (perl4/5 - Upgrade to Perl 5 - Reasons) (There that should help the poor bugger who gets told to search DN!)
Message-Id: <350952fb.7111115@news.btinternet.com>
FYI
This should be in the FAQ if it asked so much
Summary of reasons to go from Perl 4 to Perl 5
and From perl 5.03 to 5.04
1st there are 2 CERT Advisories
ftp://info.cert.org/pub/cert_advisories/
Search in here for perl and you'll find the two documents, shame you
can search CERT.
2nd Perl 4.0 is not supported for New Operating Systems, such as
Windows 98 and NT 5.0.
If anyone doubts this please post me a copy of an offical reply from
Microsoft that says they will be liable if Perl 4.0 does not work in
NT5.0 or Windows 98. :->
3rd It is very hard to get any material to learn perl 4 from, most
books cover perl 5.xxx
4th Any Perl programming rescources that you will need will likely be
versed in Perl 5 and will require "de-training" back to Perl 4, if
that is what you require.
This should hopefullly scare the pants off any Management / Sysadmins
who refuse to upgrade, and persuade them to see the light.
Ian Watkinson
ian @ cyberian . co . ^%$#664 (uk perhaps ? )
SPAM TRAP
abuse@localhost
fred"127.0.0.127
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:51:37 GMT
From: you@somehost.somedomain (User)
Subject: Re: Perl4 vs Perl 5
Message-Id: <3509473e.4106544@news.btinternet.com>
I really hate to follow up my own post (sort of) but FYI Jim
Perl 4 is Y2K compliant, as comliant as a pen is
if you write 1/1/99 with your pen does that mean your pen is not Y2K ?
Searchin Deja news is a pain, theres is so much noise to value, I
prefer to look in the FAQ, acknowlegded reference books an then ask.
To craig, thanks for the Help, that was just what I was looking for.
Ian
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:32:28 -0500, Jim Michael <jim.michael@gecm.com>
wrote:
>User wrote:
>>
>> Ok I've looked in the FAQ
>
>How about dejanews, where I think this topic might have come up before.
>
>> RTFM'd some books, and I still cant find what I want.
>
>dejanews usually works pretty well. You think you have a question that's
>never been asked before on Usenet?
>
>>
>> I am currently working on a project, my team say that we should be
>> programming in Perl 5, another Team Perl 4.
>
>Why don't you just call yourselves Team Perl?
>
>>
>> Can suggest any reasons not to go with Perl 4, specific cases of code
>> not working, or any pointers to such info would be great.
>
>Perl 4 is not Y2K compliant. Is that a good reason?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jim
>--
>To email, rot(13) the part of the From: address before the @, and join
>with the rot(8) of the part after the @. Then subtract 1 from any
>numeric characters, mapping 0 to 9. Now bitwise AND with
>president@whitehouse.gov and use the result as the email address.
>Looking forward to hearing from you!
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:01:17 -0600
From: Ryan Rucker <rxruck2@uswest.com>
Subject: perldoc -f question
Message-Id: <35094A3D.948270BD@uswest.com>
Hello,
In numerous posts here, I see reference to "perldoc -f ...".
I'm running perl 5.002 on an SVR4 flavored Unix system, and I don't have
"-f" as an option. For me, the only available options are -h, -v, -t,
and -u.
I've checked the FAQ, plodded through nearly 400 "perldoc" messages in
dejanews, did a "perldoc perldoc", and flipped through my perl books,
but haven't found an answer.
My assumption is that the "-f" option came after perl 5.002. Could some
verify this?
Granted, I'm not losing sleep over this one, it's just one of those
things that's got me curious, that's all.
Thanks,
Ryan
------------------------------
Date: 13 Mar 1998 15:19:09 GMT
From: mbeattie@sable.ox.ac.uk (Malcolm Beattie)
Subject: Re: Q: Threads (in 5.004_62) and signals
Message-Id: <6ebipd$6o7$1@news.ox.ac.uk>
In article <35083395.1B82@fc.hp.com>, Derek Sherlock <dereks@fc.hp.com> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I hope I've found the right forum for asking this question. If not,
>someone please refer me. Thanks.
>
>My question: Nowhere in the perl builtins, CPAN modules, or Threads
>entensions can I find a way of doing something like sigwait(3).
>
>I want to write signal handlers that can participate in thread-safe
>manipulation of global data. In other words, I want to do
>asynchronous-signal-UNsafe stuff when I receive an asynchronous signal.
>The traditional pthready way of doing this is to dedicate one (or more)
>threads to just waiting for asynchronous signals with sigwait(3), and
>not using traditional handlers at all.
>
>Perhaps someone knows of a module that provides an interface to
>sigwait(3)? Or a workaround that does not depend upon sigwait? Or of
>any intentions to incorporate a sigwait function in some future perl?
>Any information would be greatly appreciated.
use Thread::Signal;
starts up a separate signal handler thread which handles all signals
sent to the process and executes their signal handlers. Or, at least,
it does if it works properly. Of the people I've mentioned this too,
nobody yet has bothered to tell me whether it works or not. If you
need to so a synthetic version of sigwait between that thread and
others then create a queue
$q = new Thread::Queue;
have have the "sigwait" thread block in
$event = $q->dequeue();
whereas the "sender" does a
$q->enqueue($event);
when it wants to send an event to the waiting thread.
--Malcolm
--
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Oxford University Computing Services
"I permitted that as a demonstration of futility" --Grey Roger
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Date: 13 Mar 1998 09:46:46 -0500
From: Jonathan Feinberg <jdf@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: read/write file while locked
Message-Id: <afaubqcp.fsf@news.concentric.net>
Greg Chun <gchun@anim.dreamworks.com> writes:
> The whole open +> seems to blow away the value before I can even
> read it.
That's because you really meant '+<'. See perlfaq5, "How do I change
one line in a file/delete a line in a file/insert a line in the middle
of a file/append to the beginning of a file?"
--
Jonathan Feinberg jdf@pobox.com Sunny Brooklyn, NY
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:14:54 +0000
From: Grahame S Cooper <G.S.Cooper@iti.salford.ac.uk>
Subject: Redirecting to a script on another server.
Message-Id: <35094D6E.EDE5CA51@iti.salford.ac.uk>
This could be a Perl question or a CGI question.
Apologies if it is off topic.
I want to redirect from a Perl CGI script to another one
on a different server.
I have tried using the Location: directive, but it
doesn't seem to work for this purpose, and I can't see
how I would specify whether to use PUT or GET, etc.
Has anyone done this themselves and have a quick answer?
Cheers
--
--------------------------------------------------
Dr Grahame S Cooper
Director
Information Technology Institute
University of Salford
Salford, M5 4WT, ENGLAND
(Remove the anti spam field to EMail me.)
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Date: 13 Mar 1998 15:07:36 GMT
From: gbacon@cs.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: tainted glob confusion
Message-Id: <6ebi3o$hom$1@info.uah.edu>
[Posted and mailed]
In article <Pine.A41.3.95a.980312231812.72894A-100000@rsplus09.cern.ch>,
"Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch> writes:
: I'm trying to use glob while I've got -T on, and I keep getting:
:
: Insecure dependency in glob while running with -T switch
>From perlsec:
@files = <*.c>; # Always insecure (uses csh)
@files = glob('*.c'); # Always insecure (uses csh)
If you try to do something insecure, you will get a fatal
error saying something like "Insecure dependency" or
"Insecure PATH".
: Following the usual recipe for un-tainting things, I tried laundering
: the argument with a regexp and then using $1 as the argument of the
: glob, but the error message still triggers.
It's not a tainting issue. Currently, glob() cannot be made secure.
Until a better solution arrives, you'll want to grep readdir.
Note to the wise: be extremely careful with filenames returned from
readdir. Treat them as though they were tainted (else someone will
hand you filenames like `rm -f *|').
Hope this helps,
Greg
--
open(G,"|gzip -dc");$_=<<EOF;s/[0-9a-f]+/print G pack("h*",$&)/eg
f1b88000b620f22320303fa2d2e21584ccbcf29c84d2258084
d2ac158c84c4ece4d22d1000118a8d5491000000
EOF
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:49:37 -0600
From: payne.jim@hq.navy.mil
Subject: Trimming a Variable
Message-Id: <6ebdej$bid$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I want to only get 3 characters of a variable. Can anybody tell me how I can
do this.
Thank you
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Date: 13 Mar 1998 15:10:11 +0100
From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esb.ericsson.se>
Subject: Re: Trimming a Variable
Message-Id: <isn2eun0l8.fsf@godzilla.kiere.ericsson.se>
payne.jim@hq.navy.mil writes:
> I want to only get 3 characters of a variable. Can anybody tell me how I can
> do this.
RTFM substr
--
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:27:10 -0500
From: John Porter <jdporter@min.net>
Subject: Re: What is PERL? Learn JAVA instead?
Message-Id: <3509423E.BE@min.net>
The word is Spanish. "Java" in Spanish is pronounced
"Hava", and is a reference to the famous Jewish dance.
It is rumored that the name is a secret reference to
a cabal of Sephardic scholars in Spain, contemporaries
of Blaise Pascal. Apparently these scholars had
developed a rudimentary algorithmic symbolic language.
(Wasn't Lord Byron a closet Jew?)
John Porter
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Date: 13 Mar 1998 08:09:51 -0700
From: Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
To: kwhite@apache.tsc.ohio-state.edu (Kevin White)
Subject: Re: Why no "next/last/redo" with do?
Message-Id: <8c4t12k4ow.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com>
>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin White <kwhite@apache.tsc.ohio-state.edu> writes:
Kevin> The footnote on the first page of chapter 9 (p. 101) in the Blue Llama
Kevin> says this:
Kevin> "Note that the do {} while/uttil construct does not count as a loop
Kevin> for purposes of next, last, and redo."
Kevin> My question (the obvious): why?
Kevin> I've scoured the FAQ and the Blue Camel, and nothing. I did catch a
Kevin> reference here once to justification for fixing that, but I'm curious
Kevin> as to the logic that created the condition in the first place.
Because it's not really a loop-block block. The "do {} while" loop
is really the form
EXPR1 while EXPR2;
where EXPR1 is a "do block". The curly braces of that do-block are
more like the curly braces of a hash key... they really don't form a
real block with real block semantics, with respect to last/next/redo.
OK, I suppose they could have, a long long time ago. But they didn't,
a long long time ago, and therefore "fixing" them will likely break
existing code, something that is taken very seriously by the Perl
development team.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:30:14 -0600
From: keydet89@yahoo.com
Subject: Win32 Perl question
Message-Id: <6ebfr6$db4$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
I have written a couple of small scripts for accessing shares on remote
computers using "net use". In some cases, I need to supply a username
and password.
Is there a way in Perl to set up a connection using a different username
and password, without using something like "open(NET,"net use.....")"?
Thanks
H. Carvey
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