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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 1757 Volume: 8

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Thu Jan 29 03:07:15 1998

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 98 00:00:36 -0800
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To: Perl-Users@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (Perl-Users Digest)

Perl-Users Digest           Thu, 29 Jan 1998     Volume: 8 Number: 1757

Today's topics:
    Re: FAQ too big (Was: Re: PERL forking) (Martin Vorlaender)
    Re: Help with SORT <joseph@5sigma.com>
    Re: Looking for a really basic mailto/form script (Martin Vorlaender)
    Re: Perl CGI real-time database application (brian d foy)
        Problem entering URL in HTTP::Request (stewart samuel bushman)
    Re: Problem entering URL in HTTP::Request (brian d foy)
    Re: Problem entering URL in HTTP::Request (stewart samuel bushman)
    Re: Profiler for Perl4 (yup. Perl4) (brian d foy)
    Re: Question about answering (older) questions in c.l.p <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu>
    Re: Split <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu>
    Re: Survival Of perl <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
        Text Parsing and AI help <MetatonCSI@worldnet.att.net>
    Re: Text Problems With Explorer 4.0 (brian d foy)
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 8 Mar 97) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:36:03 +0100
From: martin@RADIOGAGA.HARZ.DE (Martin Vorlaender)
Subject: Re: FAQ too big (Was: Re: PERL forking)
Message-Id: <34d01543.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>

Tom Christiansen (tchrist@mox.perl.com) wrote:
: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M. Langmead) writes:
: :OK, so many Windows users don't realize that ...
: :And these people would rather post to Usenet to find their answers
: :rather than do _anything_ to get themselves out of this situation?
: :Then can someone remind my why I spend my time here?

: Excellent question.  Notice I kill as much as I can related that
: would appear related to POBs and KLBs.

Exactly my opinion, too, with regard to PoBs. What the hell is a "KLB"??

cu,
  Martin
--
                          | Martin Vorlaender | VMS & WNT programmer
 Ceterum censeo           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de
 Redmondem delendam esse. |       http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/
                          | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de


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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:01:04 -0700
From: "Joseph N. Hall" <joseph@5sigma.com>
Subject: Re: Help with SORT
Message-Id: <34D028D6.301E1452@5sigma.com>

First, note that as numbers, 1.1 and 1.10 are the same thing.

Here's an option (using my shiny new Sort::Fields module):

use Sort::Fields;
my @list = qw(0 1 1.1 1.10 1.2 2.1 2 0.1);
{
    local $^W;  # otherwise "0", "1" etc will generate warnings
    print join " ", fieldsort q/\./, ['1n', '2n'], @list;
}

	-joseph

Dave Downin wrote:
> 
> Help!  I'm trying to sort a list into sort of an index fashion.  I have the
> following code which doesn't do the full job:
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> 
> @list = (0,1,1.1,1.10,1.2,2.1);

-- 
Joseph N. Hall, prop., 5 Sigma Productions       mailto:joseph@5sigma.com
Author, Effective Perl Programming . . . . . http://www.effectiveperl.com
Perl Training  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  http://www.perltraining.com


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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:44:41 +0100
From: martin@RADIOGAGA.HARZ.DE (Martin Vorlaender)
Subject: Re: Looking for a really basic mailto/form script
Message-Id: <34d01749.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>

Martin Vorlaender (martin@RADIOGAGA.HARZ.DE) wrote:
: (Regards to Chipmunk - I like your style)

I just realized I copied Chip Salzenberg's style. Sorry.
(I like the style of both of you)

cu,
  Martin
--
                          | Martin Vorlaender | VMS & WNT programmer
 Ceterum censeo           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de
 Redmondem delendam esse. |       http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/
                          | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de


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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:46:25 -0500
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Perl CGI real-time database application
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R2901980146250001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker

In article <886028210.399179788@dejanews.com>, Sarah.Kamal@cgy.valmet.com posted:

>The application has to display data from a UNIX server on a PC.  I was
>thinking that I would write a perl cgi script for this and display with
>an html page of tables.  The real problem is that the data on the page
>has to update continuously while the page is open and I'm not sure how a
>cgi script can run continuously.

this isn't a perl specific issue.  the folks in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi may be of assitance.

-- 
brian d foy                                  <comdog@computerdog.com>
CGI Meta FAQ <URL:http://computerdog.com/CGI_MetaFAQ.html>
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN) <URL:http://www.perl.com>


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Date: 29 Jan 1998 05:48:28 GMT
From: sbushman@students.uiuc.edu (stewart samuel bushman)
Subject: Problem entering URL in HTTP::Request
Message-Id: <6ap57c$qg2$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>

I'm trying to just get a script to call up a web page and download the
text (easy, huh?)  Well, I'm having problems with the initial URL call,
everything else works fine.  The text of the call is:

 my $req = new HTTP::Request POST=>'http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=orcl';

Entering that URL into Netscape brings up the desired page, but apparantly
either the question mark or the equal sign is prohibiting perl from
entering the URL correctly.  Any ideas?

-stu

--
                   |
Stewart S. Bushman | The more I study religions the more convinced I become 
sbushman@uiuc.edu  | that man never worshipped anything but himself.
                   |     		- Sir Richard Francis Burton


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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:44:50 -0500
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Problem entering URL in HTTP::Request
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R2901980144500001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker


[ there is no need to post the same message twice under different
subject lines.  ]

In article <6ap57c$qg2$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, sbushman@students.uiuc.edu (stewart samuel bushman) posted:

>I'm trying to just get a script to call up a web page and download the
>text (easy, huh?)  Well, I'm having problems with the initial URL call,
>everything else works fine.  The text of the call is:
>
> my $req = new HTTP::Request POST=>'http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=orcl';

that works fine for me.  perhaps your problem is somewhere else.

-- 
brian d foy                                  <comdog@computerdog.com>
CGI Meta FAQ <URL:http://computerdog.com/CGI_MetaFAQ.html>
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN) <URL:http://www.perl.com>


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Date: 29 Jan 1998 06:41:47 GMT
From: sbushman@students.uiuc.edu (stewart samuel bushman)
Subject: Re: Problem entering URL in HTTP::Request
Message-Id: <6ap8bb$sus$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker

comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy) writes:

Here's the rest of the code, if you think it may be there:

       # Create a user agent object
       use LWP::UserAgent;
       $ua = new LWP::UserAgent;
       $ua->agent("AgentName/0.1 " . $ua->agent);

       # Create a request
      my $req = new HTTP::Request POST=>'http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=orcl';
       $req->content_type('application/x-www-form-urlencoded');
       $req->content('match=www&errors=0');

       # Pass request to the user agent and get a response back
       my $res = $ua->request($req);

       # Check the outcome of the response
       if ($res->is_success) {
           print $res->content;
       } else {
           print "Bad luck this time\n";
       }


>[ there is no need to post the same message twice under different
>subject lines.  ]

>In article <6ap57c$qg2$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, sbushman@students.uiuc.edu (stewart samuel bushman) posted:

>>I'm trying to just get a script to call up a web page and download the
>>text (easy, huh?)  Well, I'm having problems with the initial URL call,
>>everything else works fine.  The text of the call is:
>>
>> my $req = new HTTP::Request POST=>'http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=orcl';
>that works fine for me.  perhaps your problem is somewhere else.

>-- 
>brian d foy                                  <comdog@computerdog.com>
>CGI Meta FAQ <URL:http://computerdog.com/CGI_MetaFAQ.html>
>Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN) <URL:http://www.perl.com>
--
                   |
Stewart S. Bushman | The more I study religions the more convinced I become 
sbushman@uiuc.edu  | that man never worshipped anything but himself.
                   |     		- Sir Richard Francis Burton


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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:53:53 -0500
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Profiler for Perl4 (yup. Perl4)
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R2901980153530001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker

In article <6ap7lr$154$1@towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au>, bren@fangorn.cs.monash.edu.au (Brendan Macmillan) posted:


>Perhaps you should change the name of this newgroup, then, to
>comp.lang.perl5.misc? And then people who read about how helpful
>the perl community won't be misled?

there is no Perl 5, it's just Perl.

a better suggestion would be comp.lang.perl.archaic  which won't
have a V6 problem like the suggestion above.

-- 
brian d foy                                  <comdog@computerdog.com>
CGI Meta FAQ <URL:http://computerdog.com/CGI_MetaFAQ.html>
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN) <URL:http://www.perl.com>


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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:22:11 -0500
From: Chipmunk <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: Question about answering (older) questions in c.l.p.*
Message-Id: <34D02013.73E0619D@coos.dartmouth.edu>

Steve Linberg wrote:
> 
> [summary of 30 line message:
>  1. found answer to an old question
>  2. ponders people searching dejanews, not find answer to their question, and giving up
>  3. wonders where to provide answer without cluttering newsgroups
> ]

Here's a crazy idea.  Instead of cluttering up the newsgroup with a rambling
message about
cluttering up the newsgroup, you could have just posted the answer you found
and solved the
problem in line 2.

:-)

amused,
Chipmunk


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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:14:17 -0500
From: Chipmunk <rjk@coos.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: Split
Message-Id: <34D01E38.734AE2A1@coos.dartmouth.edu>

Zachary Brown wrote:
> 
> Moshe Aaron Allen  <moshea@jen.co.il> wrote:
> > I'm need to split() a pararaph after every five words. Can anyone help?
> 
> $paragraph =~ s/(\s.*?\s.*?\s.*?\s.*?\s.*?)/$1\n\n/g;

Non-greedy quantifiers are definitely not what you want to use here.
In particular, that last .*? will *never* match anything.
The other .*?'s will be happy to match nothing, allowing the entire regexp
to match something as simple as "     " (five spaces).

This would be closer to what the original poster wants:
$paragraph =~ s/\G(\s*\S+(?:\s+\S+){4})/$1\n\n/g;

Chipmunk


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Date: 28 Jan 1998 16:20:40 GMT
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Survival Of perl
Message-Id: <6anlso$7gf$1@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>

 [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]

In comp.lang.perl.misc, tadmc@flash.net (Tad McClellan) writes:
:FAQs and off-topic posts are "noise". When the noise level crosses
:a person's threshold, they stop participating in the newsgroup.
:
:Objecting to such noise is SOP across nearly all Usenet newsgroups.
:There is nothing particularly Perl-ish about that.

Here is a two column listing of my killfile.  I hope it helps.

--tom

/Resource Kit/:+                   /tchrist/f:T+
/\bprk\b/:+                        /xref:.*:.*:.*:.*:.*:/Hxref:j
/\bpython/:+                       /!!!/:j
/\btcl/:+                          /(none)/:j
/book/:+                           /PerlII*S\.dll/:j
/camel/:+                          /Windows/:j
/class/:+                          /\bDOS\b/:j
/commercial/:+                     /\bHELP\b/:j
/compil/:+                         /\bMS\b/:j
/courses/:+                        /\bNT\b/:j
/fast[: ]*cgi/:+                   /\bVMS\b/:j
/java/:+                           /\bcounters?\b/:j
/learning perl/:+                  /\be*macs*\b/:j
/llama/:+                          /\bform\b/:j
/mdim/:+                           /\bforms?\b/:j
/multi-*dim/:+                     /\bjob\b/:j
/o.reilly/:+                       /\bnewb[ieys]*\b/:j
/perl conf/:+                      /\bpc\b/:j
/perl resource kit/:+              /\burl\b/:j
/perl\.com/:+                      /\vms\b/:j
/perl\.org/:+                      /^!*US-/:j
/python/:+                         /^test/:j
/reilly/:+                         /attachment/:j
/tcl/:+                            /browser/:j
/train/:+                          /cgi/:j
/training/:+                       /dosperl/:j
/tutorial/:+                       /download/:j
\bMS\b/c:j                         /fast money/:j
/\bJPL\b/c:+                       /help!/:j
/DOS\b/c:j                         /hp-*ux/:j
/FREE/c:j                          /html/:j
/IIS/c:j                           /install prob/:j
/MISSING PERSON/c:j                /install/:j
/NT/c:j                            /installation prob/:j
/\bM*IIS\b/c:j                     /irix/:j
/\bMS\b/c:j                        /jesus/:j
/\bPC\b/c:j                        /macintosh/:j
/^Subject:[Re: ]*[^a-z]*$/c:j      /macperl/:j
/Andy Dougherty/f:+                /make money/:j
/Chip Salzenberg/f:+               /microsoft/:j
/Dean Roehrich/f:+                 /money fast/:j
/Dominus/f:+                       /no subject/:j
/Eric Arnold/f:+                   /novice/:j
/Friedl/f:+                        /ntperl/:j
/Gurusamy Sarathy/f:+              /oracle/:j
/Robert J Seymour/f:+              /oraperl/:j
/Sriram Srinivasan/f:+             /perl *4/:j
/Tim.Bunce/f:+                     /please read/:j
/abigail/f:+                       /quick money/:j
/drew.*eckhardt/f:+                /recruiter/:j
/orwant/f:+                        /server error/:j
/todd.* miller/f:+                 /solaris/:j
/Ategra/f:j                        /sybase/:j
/Dave Beckstrom/f:j                /sybperl/:j
/David Formosa/f:j                 /upload/:j
/Silicon Alley Connections/f:j     /urgent/:j
/dformosa@st.nepean.uws.edu.au/f:j /wanted/:j
/linda lollipop/f:j                /web/:j
/spam/f:j                          /win *32/:j
/Larry Wall/f:T+                   /win *95/:j
/Malcolm Beattie/f:T.              /win3\.1/:j
/Tom Christiansen/f:T+             /winnt/:j
/randal.*schwartz/f:T.             /www/:j
/sharon.*hopkins/f:T.              /Larry Wall/:T+


-- 
	Tom Christiansen	tchrist@jhereg.perl.com


Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things.  -- Dan Quayle


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Date: 29 Jan 1998 07:44:19 GMT
From: "William Lapides" <MetatonCSI@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Text Parsing and AI help
Message-Id: <6apc0j$e85@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>

Is anybody aware of any Text Parsing .Lib out there?
Im attempting to make my own AI aka Elizia, with the twist of being a
conspiracy theory nut.  I've been hacking away at the text parser and Ive
only got simplistic solutions.  Any help or guidance would be much
appreciated.


ken@metatronics.com


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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:49:41 -0500
From: comdog@computerdog.com (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Text Problems With Explorer 4.0
Message-Id: <comdog-ya02408000R2901980149410001@news.panix.com>
Keywords: from just another new york perl hacker

In article <6ap4vo$lv$1@news.greatbasin.net>, webmaster@builderpress.com posted:

>I may be jumping in late on a previous discussion, but this problem
>only recently came to light. I recently learned that a few folks
>submitting to my cgi forms were having problems with their data being
>posted

and this is a perl issue because...?

see a newsgroup that discusses browsers for issues dealing with 
browsers, or a group that discusses HTML for questions about
forms, or a group that discusses CGI for questions about CGI. 
(go figure).

-- 
brian d foy                                  <comdog@computerdog.com>
CGI Meta FAQ <URL:http://computerdog.com/CGI_MetaFAQ.html>
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN) <URL:http://www.perl.com>
it's really getting noisy in here


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