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Today's topics:
Re: 2000 time problem (John Moreno)
Re: @ + @ = % but how? <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Constants and stati <joegottman@worldnet.att.net>
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Constants and stati <joegottman@worldnet.att.net>
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Handling EBCDIC Pac <tom.gebhardt@hboc.com>
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Handling EBCDIC Pac <tom.gebhardt@hboc.com>
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: How to process sign akaleem@ibm.net
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: How to process sign akaleem@ibm.net
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Is there POSIX.pm f (Binh Do)
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Is there POSIX.pm f (Binh Do)
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: map or for : which <brian@criticalpath.net>
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: map or for : which <brian@criticalpath.net>
[Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Perl and MS Excel <swarsi@nmpnet.net>
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:45:40 -0400
From: phenix@interpath.com (John Moreno)
Subject: Re: 2000 time problem
Message-Id: <1997102109094126321090N@roxboro-183.interpath.net>
Mike Heins <mheins@prairienet.org> wrote:
] Steffen Beyer (sb@en.muc.de) wrote:
] : Petri Backstrom <petri.backstrom@icl.fi> wrote:
] :
] : > Now, if I'd venture a guess, you will not be using Windows 95
] : > or the current release of Perl in 2038 (less in 2050), and I'm
] : > sure that long before 2038 you'll have a computer where this
] : > won't be a problem (in the Perl current then or anything else).
True.
] : That's exactly what the argument was back in the fifties or so when
] : the assembler and COBOL code was created that is going to break in
] : 2000...
No it's not. And even if it was there is a fudemental difference in the
type of the problem. More on this below.
] The difference was that their decision one was code-related, and could
] not be saved by a doubling of integer size. It is guaranteed that
] even Windows will be 64-bit by then...
Their problem was going with a lowest common denominator standard. They
issue wasn't really one of space since their "solution" took up more
(ever so slightly) than twice the space needed.
The problem was one of data type - instead of using a binary value for
the year they used a ASCII value. This presents all kinds of problems,
but did make the data bases more human readable and portable.
Now the problem is not one of data type but instead one of data SIZE.
Most modern OS's have a "date" type which counts the number of seconds
since X. This value is mainly being kept in a 32 bit field and is what
most programs use whenever there is call to use a date. When these
OS's go to 64 bit system this data type will almost certainly be one of
the ones that get's bumped up. And after that happens the only problem
will be old databases and conversion between the two.
But when this does start to happen I hope that the people designing this
data type set a better X than either 1904 or 197(?) - one that goes back
a little farther for people doing historical work.
--
John Moreno
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Date: 21 Oct 1997 07:27:59 -0700
From: Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
To: "Richard Butcher" <mailus@web-uk.com>
Subject: Re: @ + @ = % but how?
Message-Id: <8c90vnxkb4.fsf@gadget.cscaper.com>
>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Butcher <mailus@web-uk.com> writes:
Richard> I guess combining two arrays of equal length into one hash
Richard> is such a frequently used routine that I have missed it somewhere
Richard> in the first few pages of the book.
Richard> So how do I do this?
Just use a hash slice (which, contrary to popular rumors, is *not*
a very bad tasting soft drink)...
@keys = qw(a b c d e f g h);
@values = qw(0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1);
%hash = (); @hash{@keys} = @values;
print "Just another Perl hacker," # but not what the media calls "hacker!" :-)
## legal fund: $20,990.69 collected, $186,159.85 spent; just 315 more days
## before I go to *prison* for 90 days; email fund@stonehenge.com for details
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:44:54 -0400
From: Joe Gottman <joegottman@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: [Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Constants and statics
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As long as they are putting new syntax elements into Perl, how about
constant
and static variables. I know of 2 ways of doing constants in Perl, and
both have
disadvantages. The first way,
*PI = \3.1415;
does not work for a variable declared with my, or for a hash or array.
The second
way,
sub PI() {3.1415;}
cannot be declared either local or my.
Static variables are possible, but tedious. Why not steal the syntax
for static,
constant (and volatile while we're at it) from C?
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As long as they are putting new syntax elements into Perl, how about
constant
and static variables. I know of 2 ways of doing constants in Perl, and
both have
disadvantages. The first way,
*PI = \3.1415;
does not work for a variable declared with my, or for a hash or array.
The second
way,
sub PI() {3.1415;}
cannot be declared either local or my.
Static variables are possible, but tedious. Why not steal the syntax
for static,
constant (and volatile while we're at it) from C?
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Subject: [Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: map or for : which is better in this case?
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ok. $list is a reference to an array of objects( which respond to a
header() method) and $hdr is a string; both $list and $hdr have been
passed into this particular sub.
i want to create a hash with key "value of this object's $hdr header"
and value "index of this object in @$list", such that i can create
@sorted_table = sort keys %table;
and then build a new sorted array of objects.
which of the below pieces of code is preferable, in terms of speed,
readability, and overall niceness?
candidate 1:
my %table;
for ( my $idx = 0; $idx < ( scalar @$list ); $idx++ ) {
my $val = $list->[$idx]->header( $hdr );
$table{$val} = $idx;
}
candidate 2:
my $idx = 0;
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$_->header( $hdr ), $idx++
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From: brian moseley <brian@criticalpath.net>
Subject: [Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: map or for : which is better in this case?
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ok. $list is a reference to an array of objects( which respond to a
header() method) and $hdr is a string; both $list and $hdr have been
passed into this particular sub.
i want to create a hash with key "value of this object's $hdr header"
and value "index of this object in @$list", such that i can create
@sorted_table = sort keys %table;
and then build a new sorted array of objects.
which of the below pieces of code is preferable, in terms of speed,
readability, and overall niceness?
candidate 1:
my %table;
for ( my $idx = 0; $idx < ( scalar @$list ); $idx++ ) {
my $val = $list->[$idx]->header( $hdr );
$table{$val} = $idx;
}
candidate 2:
my $idx = 0;
my %table = map {
$_->header( $hdr ), $idx++
} @$list;
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Does any one know if there is anything for perl that allows it to access
MS Excel files?
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:27:36 -0400
From: Suhail Warsi <swarsi@nmpnet.net>
Subject: [Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Perl and MS Excel
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Does any one know if there is anything for perl that allows it to access
MS Excel files?
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:09:48 GMT
From: tim.villa@uwa.edu.au (Tim Villa)
Subject: [Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Perl interface to Sun NIS+?
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Hi all,
Not sure if such a beast exists but are there any Perl libraries around for
accessing Solaris NIS+ tables without having to use system() or ``? I'm
trying to speed up some routines that talk to the NIS+ a lot.
Thanks
Tim
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:09:48 GMT
From: tim.villa@uwa.edu.au (Tim Villa)
Subject: [Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: Perl interface to Sun NIS+?
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Hi all,
Not sure if such a beast exists but are there any Perl libraries around for
accessing Solaris NIS+ tables without having to use system() or ``? I'm
trying to speed up some routines that talk to the NIS+ a lot.
Thanks
Tim
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