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Thu Jul 17 23:07:19 1997

Date: Thu, 17 Jul 97 20:01:39 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest           Thu, 17 Jul 1997     Volume: 8 Number: 743

Today's topics:
     Re: None zipped modules <clark@s3i.com>
     Re: opening mail program in NT (Matt DeFoor)
     Re: Oraperl bind_param problem <Tim.Bunce@ig.co.uk>
     Re: Passing hash of hashes from subroutine? <jpm@iti-oh.comNOSPAM>
     Re: perl  V. HTML?? <serginho@alpha.hydra.com.br>
     Re: Perl Database (Cloy D. Tobola)
     Re: perl documentation generator <jpm@iti-oh.comNOSPAM>
     Perl Editor for Win32? (Jason Peak)
     Re: Perl Editors (M. muPe)
     Perl Headers on Win NT (Jason Peak)
     Re: Perl Headers on Win NT <rootbeer@teleport.com>
     Re: PROPOSAL:  comp.lang.perl.nt (A. Deckers)
     regex expression to extract data from a string mmcint@amex-trs.com
     Re: regex: grouping problem <rootbeer@teleport.com>
     SERVER ERROR HELP? (Jason Peak)
     Re: some unexpected output <eike.grote@theo.phy.uni-bayreuth.de>
     Re: Undefined symbol "_stack_base" in perl (Malcolm Beattie)
     Re: Using varaibles from a template file <sfairey@adc.metrica.co.uk>
     What is Truth? (was: Re: 2 xor 0 -> 1) <rootbeer@teleport.com>
     Re: Why: @{$_[0]} for arg in subroutine <Harald.Joerg@mch.sni.de>
     Yyerror in both Perl include and XS header file?? <jheck@merck.com>
     Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 8 Mar 97) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: 16 Jul 1997 11:07:16 -0400
From: Clark Dorman <clark@s3i.com>
Subject: Re: None zipped modules
Message-Id: <dsoxf593v.fsf@s3i.com>


John Nightingale <jxn@realtime.demon.co.uk> writes:
> Could anyone point me in the direction of Perl modules that aren't
> tarred and gzipped. I'm specifically interested in the Penguin stuff and
> can't find the decompressors handy for my machine.
> 
> I'm sure other people have similar problems, or is it just me?
> 
> Thank in advance,
> 
> John Nightingale.
> 
> Ah, It's good to be back on the news server.

If you are going to be able to install Perl modules, then you are
probably going to be able to install GNU tar and gzip.  Tar in
particular keeps the directories in the proper order and it's going to
be hard to have modules that need subdirectories without tar.

Frankly, you should have tar and gzip anyway.  Go to:

ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/
ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu:/systems/gnu/

or one of the other mirrors and get them.  (They were smart enough to
have them in forms such that you don't need them to install them).
They are free, fast, and pretty universal.  Email me if it's really a
problem.  

--
Clark


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Date: 16 Jul 1997 12:37:35 GMT
From: mattd@mik.uky.edu (Matt DeFoor)
Subject: Re: opening mail program in NT
Message-Id: <5qifaf$je5@service3.uky.edu>

Randal Schwartz (merlyn@stonehenge.com) wrote:
: Matt> : $mail_prog = "c:/winnt/system32/blat.exe - -t $recipient";
: Matt> : open (MAIL, "|$mail_prog") || die "cannot open program";
: Matt> : print MAIL $message;
: Matt> : close (MAIL);
: 
: Matt> try:
: Matt> open (MAIL, "blat.exe -t $recipient|") || die "can't open blat!";
: 
: Really?  Are you opening the *output* of blat.exe?  That seems odd.
: Perhaps you wanted the | on the left side!
: 
It works either way for me. But I think I see the problem with Ryan's Blat.exe
options. The - option specifies console input. This won't work. It has to have
an input file.


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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:35:44 GMT
From: Tim Bunce <Tim.Bunce@ig.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Oraperl bind_param problem
Message-Id: <EDEz3L.J9p@ig.co.uk>

In article <5qeagi$7gc@simba>, Thomas Tien <tien@beast.Trenton.EDU> wrote:
> 
> 	I apologize if this is slightly off-topic (it was either here or 
> comp.lang.perl.modules).

Or the dbi-users mailing list. Which is where the README asked you to
report problems (right next to where it says don't post to comp.lang.perl...)

The README also explains, in details, how to report problems and what
information to include.

If you follow the README and send the info it asks for to the dbi-users
mailing list, I'll help you there.

Tim.

p.s. I guess I should include the same info into the on-line docs in
addition to the README.



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Date: 17 Jul 1997 13:42:43 GMT
From: "Noone Special" <jpm@iti-oh.comNOSPAM>
Subject: Re: Passing hash of hashes from subroutine?
Message-Id: <01bc92b7$457f6aa0$36601ec6@bach>

I would handle your hash like normal in the sub, then return the reference
to it...
EX...
sub one
{
	my (%hash);
	#hash stuff here...
	return (\%hash);
}

sub two
{
	$hash = one();
	foreach $member (keys %{$hash})
	{
	   #whatever
	}
}

Getit?
If not, gimmie an e-mail... and I'll help out.
-- 
Josh,
Gavin Dragon...
Remove NOSPAM from address...



Trey Valenta <trey@zipcon.net> wrote in article
<869117020.164009@ran.zipcon.net>...
> In a quest for insight:
> 
> I have a script which parses through an array of about 1400 lines or so
> and builds a hash of hashes. I want to build the HoHes in a subroutine
> and then pass the has to another subroutine so it can be handled. How
> can I properly pass this out from the subroutine? I don't want the hash
> to be filled globally but when I declare the hash in the beginning like
> 	my %hash;
> I have a feeling I only declare a single depth hash and I can't pass it.
> Can someone point me in the right direction since the book isn't
> helping?
> 
> And as a bonus question, I'm building the hash from an array of about
> 1400-2000 lines at a time. As I deal with each line from the array, do I
> gain much by undefining or deleting the element?
> 
> thanks tons.
> trey
> 
> --
> Trey Valenta	trey@zipcon.net	 Seattle, WA
> 
> 


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Date: 16 Jul 1997 13:00:33 GMT
From: "Sergio Stateri Jr" <serginho@alpha.hydra.com.br>
Subject: Re: perl  V. HTML??
Message-Id: <01bc91e8$9bb4f860$6875e7c8@Term104>


Fan Ng <FANNGMAIL@prodigy.net> escreveu no artigo
<33cc36cf.489940@news.prodigy.net>...
> Hello everybody:
> 
> Can HTML do everything perl does??
> Like Image or song or video??
> Thanks
> 
> fanng@prodigy.net
> 

Of course that not. Perl is a language like any other High Level language,
and HTML is a script language to do Home Pages.


-- 
--------------------------------------------
Sergio Stateri Jr
Sco Paulo (SP) - Brazil
e-mail: serginho@usa.net
--------------------------------------------


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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 07:00:16 -0500
From: ctobola@nospam.rrnet.com (Cloy D. Tobola)
Subject: Re: Perl Database
Message-Id: <ctobola-ya023180001607970700160001@snews.zippo.com>

In article <33CBE869.F4B6F63F@ix.netcom.com>, sray@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>I recently read an article by someone who had implemented a small
>database in Perl, but I never thought I would need it, and didn't save
>it. Now I'm renting a small amount of space on a WWW server and can
>really use it... does anyone recall seeing anything like that?
>
>May the fleas of a thousand camels infest the armpits of anyone who
>flames me because of this question.

Stephanie,

   Brent Michalski recently posted about  a simple database program he'd
written in Perl. Check out his page at:
http://www.rapidcity.com/~brent/simple/

Excelsior!   -Cloy
============================================= 
           Some people never see the light,
          Til it shines through bullet holes.
                        -Bruce Cockburn

For more 80s trivia, visit my New Wave 80s Page
at    http://rrnet.com/~ctobola/newwave.html
=============================================


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Date: 16 Jul 1997 13:46:42 GMT
From: "Noone Special" <jpm@iti-oh.comNOSPAM>
Subject: Re: perl documentation generator
Message-Id: <01bc91ee$ab7ef740$36601ec6@bach>

I'm afraid you won't find very much...
If the code is simple it would not take to much time to create a perl
documentor in perl...
just use comment "tags".
For example
^ip     means input paramater... then in your code have something like:
#^ip foo foo is an input param for the sub foo1.
Then in your generator, look for #'s... if you find one, search for ^pi and
all info afterword, you store...
Hope this helps,
-- 
Josh,
Gavin Dragon...
Remove NOSPAM from address...



Petrucci Anna <petrucci@intecs2.intecs.it> wrote in article
<33CC7836.8E7BCC54@intecs2.intecs.it>...
> Hi, it is URGENT!!!
> Im seeking a tool that have the same feature of javadoc for perl, a
> tool that generate help documentation from the perl source code. Does it
> exist?
> Please answer to my question.
> Thanks for your attention
> Anna Petrucci
> 
> e-mail petrucci@roma.intecs.it
> 
> 
> 


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Date: 16 Jul 1997 15:22:12 GMT
From: peak@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu (Jason Peak)
Subject: Perl Editor for Win32?
Message-Id: <5qiov4$50n@smash.gatech.edu>


Does anyone know of a Perl editor for 
Win32 Platforms?  If so, please post or reply.
Thanks.

Jason Peak
peak@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu



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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:25:11 GMT
From: mupe@desk.nl (M. muPe)
Subject: Re: Perl Editors
Message-Id: <5qh88c$hc$1@news2.xs4all.nl>

In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970715074758.8627A-100000@ehsn8.cen.uiuc.edu>, perrella andrew c <perrella@ehsn8.cen.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>        Does anybody know of any programming editors for perl.  I am just
>looking for simple text editor that colors codes important stuff like sub,
>{, $, @, etc..
>
>thanks, 
>
>Andrew Perrella
>perrella@uiuc.edu
> 
>
Besides the famous unix editors, there are some GUI editors which are
easy to start with and support color;  ted,nedit , xcoral 


Mathilde muPe


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Date: 16 Jul 1997 15:27:31 GMT
From: peak@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu (Jason Peak)
Subject: Perl Headers on Win NT
Message-Id: <5qip93$50n@smash.gatech.edu>


I'm trying to get an NT server to run some perl scripts for me.
I've discovered that I have to make them .bat files and somehow
call the perl.exe with the .bat file.  

Does anyone know how to do this?  I've tried giving the 
c:\perl5\perl.exe test.bat in both a .bat and a .pl file.
with no avail.  Also, I've tried calling on a perl.exe with a
 .pl file and stil get server errors.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Jason Peak
peak@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu



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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:58:28 -0700
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
To: Jason Peak <peak@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu>
Subject: Re: Perl Headers on Win NT
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970716085507.14876Q-100000@kelly.teleport.com>

On 16 Jul 1997, Jason Peak wrote:

> I'm trying to get an NT server to run some perl scripts for me.
> I've discovered that I have to make them .bat files and somehow
> call the perl.exe with the .bat file.  
> 
> Does anyone know how to do this?  

If this isn't covered in the release notes which come with Perl for NT, it
ought to be. If you can't find it, could you let the developers know? 
Their address should be easy to find in the release notes. Thanks! 

-- 
Tom Phoenix           http://www.teleport.com/~rootbeer/
rootbeer@teleport.com  PGP   Skribu al mi per Esperanto!
Randal Schwartz Case:  http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/



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Date: 14 Jul 1997 23:43:41 GMT
From: I-hate-cyber-promo@man.ac.uk (A. Deckers)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL:  comp.lang.perl.nt
Message-Id: <slrn5sledc.imp.I-hate-cyber-promo@news.rediris.es>

[NB: Followup-To: news.groups]

In <slrn5siriq.g8b.grobe+news@worf.netins.net>,
	Jonathan Grobe <grobe+news@netins.net> wrote:
>In article <33c9624f.722194@news.accesscom.net>, Webmaster wrote:
>>
>>NEWSGROUP:    comp.lang.perl.nt
>>
>>REASON:  Other perl groups deal with UNIX scripting.  I have struggled
>>with these groups for quite some time.  There is a definite need for
>>this group and quite a few NT users online that desperately need this.
>>
>>I have been asking in the other perl groups and the NT users agree
>>that this group is needed.
>>
>>Disregard the previous proposal for "alt.perl.for.nt".  This request
>>supercedes that submission.
>>
>alt.config is only for the discussion of proposed alt.groups. There is
>currently a comp.lang.perl.* reorganization being discussed in 
>news.groups.

Yup, I'm one of the proponent, and I'm confident I speak for all the
proponents when I say that we will not be including a clp.nt or
clp.win32 group in the current proposal.

As a side note, it might be a while before I get round to publishing
the 2nd RFD. Work, real life and all that Jazz is getting in the way at
the moment.

Cheers,

Alain

-- 
Introduction to news.groups:
   <URL:http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/new-users-please-read.txt>
Guidelines for Usenet Group Creation:
   <URL:ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1>


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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:39:49 -0600
From: mmcint@amex-trs.com
Subject: regex expression to extract data from a string
Message-Id: <869014950.5414@dejanews.com>

Can someone help me solve this problem:

After loading $string with a text file I'm tring to extract a range of
text between TAG1 and TAG2. Therefore I want to eliminate all text before
and after those two tags. The problem is that my regular expression is not
matching the .* pattern as the first character in the string. Here's what
I got:

$string =~ s#(.*)(<TAG1>.*<TAG2>)(.*)#$2#gm;

I thought this would perform the match, but it doesn't. Can anyone help?
Does this make sense? Should I give up and go eat supper?

Thanks!

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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:54:26 -0700
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
To: "A. Deckers" <deckers@man.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: regex: grouping problem
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970716085223.14876P-100000@kelly.teleport.com>

On 16 Jul 1997, A. Deckers wrote, quoting me:

> >you could take out the outer parens. 

> Can I? Is s/((foo){3})bar/$1/ equivalent to s/(foo){3}bar/$1/? I would have
> thought that in the second case it only remembers /foo/ once.

Oops, you're right. I should have said that you could change the inner
parens to non-memory parens. Have fun with it!

-- 
Tom Phoenix           http://www.teleport.com/~rootbeer/
rootbeer@teleport.com  PGP   Skribu al mi per Esperanto!
Randal Schwartz Case:  http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/



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Date: 16 Jul 1997 14:32:15 GMT
From: peak@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu (Jason Peak)
Subject: SERVER ERROR HELP?
Message-Id: <5qim1f$ro8@smash.gatech.edu>


When trying to run a perl script (perl5 installed) I keep getting
the following error

HTTP/1.0 500 Server Error (87) 


I am using MS Personal Web Server and have tried it with IIS 3.0
If anyone can make a suggestion.
I'm also using the following script which is giving me the error
print "You are a God.... Muahahahahah";

Thanks gang.

Jason Peak
peak@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu



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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:02:34 +0200
From: Eike Grote <eike.grote@theo.phy.uni-bayreuth.de>
Subject: Re: some unexpected output
Message-Id: <33CC8E2A.41C6@theo.phy.uni-bayreuth.de>

Hi,

Kenneth Kin Lum wrote:
> 
> Guess what the following give give?
> 
> $test = "AAA BCBC AAA";
> $test =~ s/([^x])BC/$1y/g;
> print "test is $test\n";
> 
> ----
> Now, the output:
> test is AAA yBC AAA

Looks quite fine to me ...

When Perl does a global search-and-replace, it replaces the
first substring found and then starts to search again _after_ the
first match to find the second one. That means, that in your example
' BC' is matched first and then the search for another match is done
in the substring 'BC AAA' (the rest of $test). That's why you don't
get a second replacement in $test.

> 
> Is this supposed to be so, not
> test is AAA yy AAA
> ??

To achive this result you could enclose the search-and-replace
expression with a loop, like this:

  while($test =~ s/([^x])BC/$1y/g) {}


Bye, Eike
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Date: 16 Jul 1997 09:34:38 GMT
From: mbeattie@sable.ox.ac.uk (Malcolm Beattie)
Subject: Re: Undefined symbol "_stack_base" in perl
Message-Id: <5qi4je$dfb@news.ox.ac.uk>

In article <5qc36r$fu6$1@otis.netspace.net.au>,
Mark Heath <mheath@netspace.net.au> wrote:
>Im copying a web server from one machine to another and are testing perl 
>scripts to see if they work on the new machine.
>
>Here is an error which I cant seem to find in any of the faq/diags files
>
>Can't load '/server/www/perl/auto/Data/Dumper/Dumper.so' for module 
>Data::Dumper: Undefined symbol "_stack_base" in 
>perl:/server/www/perl/auto/Data/Dumper/Dumper.so at 
>/usr/local/lib/perl5/DynaLoader.pm line 140.
>
> at /server/www/perl/Data/Dumper.pm line 28
>
>Does this measn that Dumper.so needs to be recompiled to work on the new 
>machine.  It is the same architecture.  

You probably have the perl on the new machine configured to use
EMBED but not the one on the old machine. With EMBED defined, perl
renames many of its global symbols to keep them out of the way of
other code you want to link in--in particular, stack_base becomes
Perl_stack_base. You'd better rebuild any XSUB extensions...

>Would going from 5.002 to 5.003 cause this problem?

 ...especially in that case.

--Malcolm

-- 
Malcolm Beattie <mbeattie@sable.ox.ac.uk>
Oxford University Computing Services
"I permitted that as a demonstration of futility" --Grey Roger


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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:02:59 +0100
From: Simon Fairey <sfairey@adc.metrica.co.uk>
To: perrella@ehsn28.cen.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: Using varaibles from a template file
Message-Id: <33CE4233.ABD@adc.metrica.co.uk>

perrella andrew c wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>         I am have written a script that takes input from a template file
> (.txt) and returns the value of that template file into a string.
> 
> Namely
> 
> $template = all the stuff that is in the file.
> 
>         This lets me easily append etc. the file contents and then out put
> $template to the screen.
> 
> I am having a problem however using variables in the template file.
> 
> for example.
> 
> lets say I have two variables in my script
> 
> $fname = "andrew";
> $lname = "perrella";
> 
> Now I want to use a template file called template.txt that whose contents
> are:
> 
> Hello,
>         My name is $fname $lname
> 
> Thus, when the script runs, it reads the template file, and outputs to the
> screen
> 
> hello,
>         My name is Andrew Perrella
> 
> Where the script obviously has replaced $fname and $lname with the
> declared values.
> 
> However is I have in the code
> 
> print "$template";
> 
> I get
> 
> hello,
>         my name is $fname $lname
> 
> which is literally the contents of the template file.
> 
> This is an exremely longwinded question, but I tried hard to make it as
> specific as possible.
> 
> I would appreciate any help I could get.
> 
> andrew perrella
> perrella@uiuc.edu

See the Perl FAQ at www.perl.com look for expanding variables in the
strings section. Essentially you want to do:

$text =~ s/\$(\w+)/${$1}/g;

Simon


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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:05:03 -0700
From: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@teleport.com>
To: Doug Seay <seay@absyss.fr>
Subject: What is Truth? (was: Re: 2 xor 0 -> 1)
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970716075300.14876I-100000@kelly.teleport.com>

On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Doug Seay wrote:

> There are three values for False[*] and everything else is True. 

> [*] '', 0, and undefined

I usually consider '0' to be in that list. Depending upon my mood, I can
consider 0.0 to be false as well, since occasionally that comes up. 

The simple rule that I like is this: Make it a string, and if the result
is either '' or '0', it's false, otherwise true.

It naturally falls out from that rule that "000" and "\0" are true, even
though that can surprise folks who are used to some other programming
languages. Some of those same people are surprised to see what this does,
too. 

	perl -e 'print "huh?\n" if false'

Well, that's Perl!  :-)

-- 
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rootbeer@teleport.com  PGP   Skribu al mi per Esperanto!
Randal Schwartz Case:  http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/



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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:50:06 +0000
From: Harald Joerg <Harald.Joerg@mch.sni.de>
To: sajjad@uic.edu
Subject: Re: Why: @{$_[0]} for arg in subroutine
Message-Id: <33CE4D3E.4FEF@mch.sni.de>

Sajjad Lateef wrote:
> Check this out:
> #main
> my @color_array = [ 'Red', 'Blue', 'Yellow'];
> 
> &callsub(@color_array);
> ...
> sub callsub {
> my @list = @{$_[0]};
> 
> # mess with @list
> }

> Now, according to the Camel Book, I can do 'my @list = @_' and then I should
> be able to use @list. I just cannot do that! If I do that, then @list contains
> a hard reference of the type ARRAY(0x12345678).

That's because your @colour_array is not a list, but a list
with one element of references to a list with three elements.
Two other ways to write your code but make the points clearer:

1) my @color_array = ( 'Red', 'Blue', 'Yellow');
   &callsub(@color_array);
   sub callsub {
      my @list = @_;
   }
is what you probably wanted. 
Note the parentheses in the initialisation!

2) my $color_array = [ 'Red', 'Blue', 'Yellow'];
   &callsub($color_array);
   sub callsub {
      my @list = @{$_[0]};
   }
 ...makes it clear that you're talking about a scalar $color_array,
which holds a hard reference to an anonymous list with three elements.
See the perlref manpage for details.

> I can only use @list if I dereference $_[0] using @{...}.
> What am I doing wrong here? 

Not actually wrong. You made an approach using an anonymous list
which may be quite appropriate under certain circumstances, and
you found the correct solution in your sub. But anyway, you 
probably meant what I wrote under 1).
-- 
Oook,
--haj--


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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:31:33 -0400
From: "James J. Heck" <jheck@merck.com>
Subject: Yyerror in both Perl include and XS header file??
Message-Id: <33CCE955.41C6@merck.com>

I am trying to build an XS module that uses yacc to do some of the
parsing.  This C routine has yyerror in it's header file.  The C library
comiles fine.  However, when I try to compile the XS module it complains
about the dupilcated declaration.  It turns out in one of the CORE perl
include files yyerror is defined as well.  
	The work around I have done so far is, compile the C library with the
line in the C header there, comment out the yyerror extern in the C
header file, then compile the Module.  There must be a better way to do
this right?

	James
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--------------------
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Date: 8 Mar 97 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin) 
Subject: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 8 Mar 97)
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