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Fri Mar 14 20:37:23 1997
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 97 17:00:22 -0800
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Perl-Users Digest Fri, 14 Mar 1997 Volume: 8 Number: 120
Today's topics:
Re: 3 Easy questions. - PLEASE HELP <axvu@netmail.mnet.uswest.com>
Re: [HELP] !@#$% sort subroutines... <billc@tibinc.com>
Re: [HELP] !@#$% sort subroutines... (Tad McClellan)
Re: Am I hosed? (Can't compile modules) <scotth@sgi.com>
Can 5.01 handle 4.0.1.8 scripts? (Marshall Pierce)
can't compile perl5.003/linux <juergen.jaeschke@rz.hu-berlin.de>
Re: Counter help me peez >:P (Tad McClellan)
Re: exec & nohup <axvu@netmail.mnet.uswest.com>
Re: How can I use #! w/o knowing where perl lives? <gwstern@netmail.mnet.uswest.com>
Re: Install help for 5.003 on Solaris? <juergen.jaeschke@rz.hu-berlin.de>
Is globbing still useful? <mikenak@best.com>
learning perl <henriques@pobox.com>
Nintendo game on AS/400 <marco@elvis.com>
Re: Perl and ypcat <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Re: Perl Interpretors <brinthl@ch.etn.com>
Re: perl religion (was: Re: Which one is the best (patt (Clay Irving)
Perl Scripting <mstich@erols.com>
Re: Problems with search engine. Please help <chris@organic.com>
Re: random perl core dumps with obscure message <eryq@enteract.com>
Re: Sockets Question <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Re: Sockets Question (Nathan V. Patwardhan)
Re: What language do Perl REs recognize? <eryq@enteract.com>
Re: What's wrong with "an email" (was: How to spam - le <mkruse@shamu.netexpress.net>
Win32/ODBC <brian@shepmark.com>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 8 Mar 97) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:04:59 -0600
From: Alan Vu <axvu@netmail.mnet.uswest.com>
Subject: Re: 3 Easy questions. - PLEASE HELP
Message-Id: <332833BB.5A5E@netmail.mnet.uswest.com>
Hi Nick:
1. Use tr/a-z/A-Z/; to convert to upper case
Example: $myString = "abcd";
$myString =~ tr/a-z/A-Z/;
2. Use substr function in Perl
3. You have incorrect syntax. It should be:
foreach $key (sort keys(%ENV)) {print "$key = $ENV{$key}\n};
You did not study your Perl lesson in the manual. Eveything is in the
manual
Good luck ^ ^
ALan Vu
Nick Curtis wrote:
> OK, I have three little posers that I need to ask.
> 1. How do you change a string to be either all caps or all non-caps?
> 2. How do you truncate a string, or get a substring?
> 3. How do I get a list of all environment variables sent from a web
> browser???
> I tried
> foreach $key (sort keys(%ENV)) {print "$key = $ENV($key)\n};
> but with perlIS.dll it only shows PERLXS = PERLIS.DLL
> Help much appreciated.
> NickC (told you it was quick and easy!!!!).
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:30:51 -0500
From: Bill Cowan <billc@tibinc.com>
To: mblase@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: [HELP] !@#$% sort subroutines...
Message-Id: <3329D19B.7830@tibinc.com>
mblase@ncsa.uiuc.edu wrote:
>
> I know I have the syntax right, because the thing runs. It even runs
> in the debugger. The only thing it doesn't do is sort the array
> it's given. Could some kind soul glance through this and tell me
> what I'm doing wrong?
>
> Thanks in advance --
>
> -- Marty Blase
> mblase@ncsa.uiuc.edu
>
> sub AlphaSort {
> local(@array) = @_;
> return sort Alphabetical @array; # return the sorted array
> }
>
> sub Alphabetical {
> local($a,$b) = @_;
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Delete this line.
> foreach($a,$b) {
> tr/A-Z/a-z/;
> s/^\s+//; # remove any leading whitespace
> s/^the\s+//;
> s/^a?\s+//; # remove either 'a' or 'an'
> }
> return $a cmp $b;
> }
>
---------------- Sample test ----------------------------------
@test = ('B', 'd','a','C','e');
@test = &AlphaSort(@test);
print join(',', @test); # prints out a,b,c,d,e
sub AlphaSort {
local(@array) = @_;
return sort Alphabetical @array; # return the sorted array
}
sub Alphabetical {
#### local($a,$b) = @_; # see doc about special handling of $a, $b.
foreach($a,$b) {
tr/A-Z/a-z/;
s/^\s+//; # remove any leading whitespace
s/^the\s+//;
s/^a?\s+//; # remove either 'a' or 'an'
}
return $a cmp $b;
}
-- Bill
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Cowan <billc@tibinc.com> Voice:919-490-0034 Fax:919-490-0143
Tiburon, Inc./3333 Durham-Chapel Hill Blvd Suite E-100/Durham, NC 27707
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:47:05 -0600
From: tadmc@flash.net (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: [HELP] !@#$% sort subroutines...
Message-Id: <9hkcg5.m64.ln@localhost>
mblase@ncsa.uiuc.edu wrote:
: I know I have the syntax right, because the thing runs. It even runs
: in the debugger. The only thing it doesn't do is sort the array
: it's given. Could some kind soul glance through this and tell me
: what I'm doing wrong?
: Thanks in advance --
Uh huh.
: sub AlphaSort {
: local(@array) = @_;
: return sort Alphabetical @array; # return the sorted array
: }
: sub Alphabetical {
: local($a,$b) = @_;
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Read The !@#$% Manual before you start with the name calling.
Looking under 'sort' in perlfunc, I see:
In the interests of efficiency the normal calling code for subroutines is
bypassed, with the following effects: the subroutine may not be a
recursive subroutine, and the two elements to be compared are passed into
the subroutine not via @_ but as the package global variables $a and
^^^^^^^^^^
$b (see example below). They are passed by reference, so don't
modify $a and $b. And don't try to declare them as lexicals either.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do as you're told, and it has at least a chance of working...
!@#$% people who post without taking a few minutes to search
the !@#$% free documentation included with the perl distribution...
--
Tad McClellan SGML Consulting
Tag And Document Consulting Perl programming
tadmc@flash.net
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Date: 14 Mar 1997 16:03:30 -0800
From: Scott Henry <scotth@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: Am I hosed? (Can't compile modules)
Message-Id: <yd8endiggx9.fsf@hoshi.corp.sgi.com>
>>>>> "R" == Russ Allbery <rra@cs.stanford.edu> writes:
R> Unlike pretty much every other OS vendor, SGI not only doesn't ship a
R> compiler with their base OS, they don't even ship the standard header
R> files. And, since those header files are copyrighted, no free compiler
R> distribution can either.
R> Which basically means you get to buy IDO if you want a compiler. gcc
R> won't help.
This *will* be changing, but I don't know any dates. The latest I
heard, it should be available for 6.2 and later. Also, IRIX-6.2 and
later does come with the standard header files, just not installed
by default (subsystem eoe.hdr.lib from your IRIX EOE #1 CD).
--
Scott Henry <scotth@sgi.com> / Help! My disclaimer is missing!
Networking Services, / GIGO *really* means: Garbage in, Gospel Out
Silicon Graphics, Inc / http://reality.sgi.com/scotth/
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Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:10:01 GMT
From: piercem@col.hp.com (Marshall Pierce)
Subject: Can 5.01 handle 4.0.1.8 scripts?
Message-Id: <5gcls9$jb1@nonews.col.hp.com>
I thought 5.01 could correctly deal with 4.0 syntax? If this is not the
case, is there a comprehensive list somewhere which identifies those
things which would have to be changed. Even better, is there a conversion
tool?
Thanks
--
=-=-=-=-= Marshall V Pierce World Wide User Support Program
/_ __ marshall_pierce@hp.com Technology Team
/ //_/ (719) 590-3461
/ http://hpweb.cs.itc.hp.com/solutions/wwsms.html
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:38:25 +0100
From: Juergen Jaeschke <juergen.jaeschke@rz.hu-berlin.de>
Subject: can't compile perl5.003/linux
Message-Id: <3329EF81.763DB04E@rz.hu-berlin.de>
Hi,
I'm not able to compile perl 5.003 on
my linux slackware systems (2.015, gcc 2.7.0).
If I don't try dynamic loading everything works
ok. If I try to compile with dynamic loading
(some of the modules I want to use seems to
need it) I get "dynamic loading not supported
in this perl version".
What to do ?
Thanks in advance,
Juergen
(please reply via eMail[too])
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:38:26 -0600
From: tadmc@flash.net (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: Counter help me peez >:P
Message-Id: <21kcg5.j54.ln@localhost>
Dave (dhodgson@incyte.com) wrote:
: You are attempting to both read from and write the same file handle. I
: don't think
: Perl allows you to do this.
Yes it does. But you have to open it as below, and seek() at the
appropriate time:
open(COUNTFILE, "+<testct") || die "could not open testct $!";
^^
^^
: So open the file and read the value. Then
: close it and
: reopen it for writing thus:
That's easier if you don't want to have to figure out seek().
--
Tad McClellan SGML Consulting
Tag And Document Consulting Perl programming
tadmc@flash.net
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:12:53 -0600
From: Alan Vu <axvu@netmail.mnet.uswest.com>
Subject: Re: exec & nohup
Message-Id: <33283595.26EE@netmail.mnet.uswest.com>
Hi Greg:
This is UNIX question. It is not Perl. Howerver, you can
do man page on nohup to learn about it. Type the following
line on UNIX prompt:
man nohup
Bye
Greg Sinclair wrote:
> hello,
> i have a simple question concerning the exec command. does exec
> work like 'nohup' in that the executed process/program will
> continue running even if the terminal or session is closed? i am
> seeing this behaviour, but have not seen any documentation describing
> this type of a situation.
> Thanks for your help.
> Greg Sinclair
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:35:17 -0700
From: Greg W Sternberg <gwstern@netmail.mnet.uswest.com>
Subject: Re: How can I use #! w/o knowing where perl lives?
Message-Id: <33283AD5.1FCA@netmail.mnet.uswest.com>
Paul,
>
> Andrew M. Langmead wrote:
> > How about all the variations on
> >
> > #!/bin/sh -- # -*- perl -*- -p
> > eval 'exec perl $0 -S ${1+"$@"}'
> > if 0;
> >
> > That are found in the man pages and the camel book?
[munch]
>
> Unfortunately bash version 1.14.17(1) says "sh: --: bad option".
> However, /usr/bin/env exists on all the systems I use.
However, for those of us that #!/bin/env perl doesn't work on
using ksh (or csh if you're careful) instead of sh works for me.
I do have a couple of questions about the syntax tho:
1) What purpose does the eval statement serve ? You do need it
but I'm not sure what it does ?
2) I've never seen 'if 0;' syntax before - it seems to cause ksh
to ignore the rest of the script (?).
3) I'm also unsure what "$@" does - $@ seems to work to
--
Thanks,
Greg Sternberg
(303)595-2925 "I think we're on the road to coming up
Productive Data Systems with answers that I don't think any of
gwstern@netmail.mnet.uswest.com us in total felt we have the answers
gstern@usa.net to." - Kim Anderson, ex-mayor
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:28:11 +0100
From: Juergen Jaeschke <juergen.jaeschke@rz.hu-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: Install help for 5.003 on Solaris?
Message-Id: <3329ED1B.6E43568E@rz.hu-berlin.de>
Jim Rudolf wrote:
[... probs removed ]
>
> My system: Sun Ultra, Solaris 2.5, gcc 2.5.6, perl 5.003
I didn't encounter any problems with Sun Ultra, Solaris 2.5
and gcc 2.7.2 -- maybe some of the probs rely in the old gcc:
i'm not able to compile on linux with gcc 2.7.0.
Juergen
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:04:47 -0800
From: Mike Nakagawa <mikenak@best.com>
Subject: Is globbing still useful?
Message-Id: <3329E79F.3493@best.com>
In a recent e-mail exchange I found out that the following code snippet
will run the subroutine "file1":
#File: file1.pl
sub file1
{
# stuff
}
#end file1.pl
#File: whatever.pl
require "file1.pl"
$string = "file1";
&$string; # this runs file1, since when can you run a scalar?
#end whatever.pl
In perl 4, trying to do this involved putting "file1" into a glob,
then using the glob in another context.
I guess the question I have is of what use is globbing in Perl 5?
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 19:35:18 -0500
From: sean <henriques@pobox.com>
Subject: learning perl
Message-Id: <3329EEC6.537B@pobox.com>
any suggestions on how a newbie can painlessly pickup the basics of
perl?? Perhaps an online tutorial ??
thanks in advance
pls. respond to mailto://henriques@pobox.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:40:38 -0500
From: Marco <marco@elvis.com>
Subject: Nintendo game on AS/400
Message-Id: <3329C5D6.1325@elvis.com>
Check out Mario Net Quest, a Shockwave game on IBM's AS/400 site. You
can win prizes check it out http://www.as400.ibm.com/nintendo
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Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:32:19 GMT
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Perl and ypcat
Message-Id: <5gcg53$8v3$1@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
In comp.lang.perl.misc,
Bob Maillet <Bob_Maillet@dg.com> writes:
:Is there a command or commands that can invoke ypcat filename to work
:in perl?
Is there a reason that neither `backticks` nor system() suffices
for your purposes?
--tom
--
Tom Christiansen tchrist@jhereg.perl.com
If you want to program in C, program in C. It's a nice language. I
use it occasionally... :-)
--Larry Wall in <7577@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>
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Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:16:57 GMT
From: "Lee Brinton" <brinthl@ch.etn.com>
Subject: Re: Perl Interpretors
Message-Id: <01bc30ce$7ab7e6c0$f51163a6@brinthl.bid.ch.etn.com>
The Win32 port of perl at www.perl.hip.com should do the trick.
--
H. Lee Brinton
brinthl@ch.etn.com
6xtippet@b4futures.net
I do not speak for Cutler-Hammer
dianne cooper <cooper15@hsonline.net> wrote in article
<3326d7f8.0@news.hsonline.net>...
> Hi,
> I'm setting up my own server and I've been looking all over
> for a perl interpretor for Windows95. The only ones I find are
> for UNIX. Do I need to pay or order one?
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Date: 14 Mar 1997 18:06:14 -0500
From: clay@panix.com (Clay Irving)
Subject: Re: perl religion (was: Re: Which one is the best (pattern matching))
Message-Id: <5gcll7$gku@panix.com>
In <5gbnt3$p7g$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> mlaker@contax.co.uk (Markus Laker) writes:
>roberto@eurocontrol.fr (Ollivier Robert) wrote:
>> In article <slrn5hs1qu.634.erisson@kallisti.sw-tech.com>,
>> E. <erisson@kallisti.sw-tech.com> wrote:
>> > > bless $you;
>> >
>> > my ($child);
>> confess "your sins";
>seek SALVATION, $in, $Jesus;
open BIBLE, "the_book" or die "without religion";
read BIBLE, $your_head, $alot;
close BIBLE;
sleep $peacefully;
--
Clay Irving See the happy moron,
clay@panix.com He doesn't give a damn,
http://www.panix.com/~clay I wish I were a moron,
My God! Perhaps I am!
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:52:17 -0500
From: Matthew Stich <mstich@erols.com>
Subject: Perl Scripting
Message-Id: <3329E4B1.F8C@erols.com>
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I am trying to write/script a guestbook for my site, and have attched
the perl file and html for your evaluation. Could anyone tell me what
is wrong with Kenneth Murphy's script?
I keep getting this error:
Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@erols.com and inform
them of the time the error occurred, and anything you
might have done that may have caused the error.
Attached is the HTML and perl script:
Matthew
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:52:57 -0800
From: Chris Dolan <chris@organic.com>
Subject: Re: Problems with search engine. Please help
Message-Id: <3329E4D8.41C6@organic.com>
Peter Sxnderby wrote:
>
> Hi there..
>
> I4m working with a search engine which has to search a plain txt file. in
> the format:
>
> Filename | filearea | description
>
> I have two problems
>
> 1. When I get the search result the script cuts off the last letter. (eg.
> ZIP becomes .ZI) ????
I imagine its that chop($linkurl); line...looks unnecessary at a glance,
but you could go with chomp to be safe.
> 2 I would like to choose between 8 different txt files to search. I have
> found a Perl script at http:www.technotrade.com which I have rewritten, but
> i can4t implement the part concerning this problem..
???, not really clear what you want to do here, but doesn't sound too
difficult.
> Please take a look at http://www.oc.dk
Sorry, can't read it.
Good luck,
-Chris
>
> Here goes my script.
>
> Please reply in email sonderby@vip.cybercity.dk
>
> --
> Regards. Peter Sxnderby
> Homepage at --> http://www.oc.dk
>
> Name: opg.cgi
> Part 1.2 Type: magnus-internal/cgi
> Encoding: x-uuencode
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:20:56 -0600
From: Eryq <eryq@enteract.com>
Subject: Re: random perl core dumps with obscure message
Message-Id: <3329DD58.25118AB5@enteract.com>
Tom Christiansen wrote:
> Sometimes, but the point is that it's *THE ONLY WAY OUT*
> of a read, etc. For example
>
> $SIG{ALRM} = sub {die};
> alarm 30000;
> eval { $line = <STDIN> };
> alarm 0;
>
> Is the only way you can do a timed-out read.
Wouldn't one have to worry about what $SIG{__DIE__} was currently
set to in this case? That is, imagine this is code in a
reusable module (IO::Timed?)... such a module would need to
temporarily save/restore a possibly-non-signal-safe $SIG{__DIE__}
handler, would it not?
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Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:53:11 GMT
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Sockets Question
Message-Id: <5gchc7$8v3$2@csnews.cs.colorado.edu>
[courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]
In comp.lang.perl.misc,
Rob Wilson <rwilson@eh.net> writes:
:Currently, I can connect to a remote host, read from that
:host, but when I try to print to the host, it just ignores me. Thanks in
:advance.
You forgot to flush.
--tom
--
Tom Christiansen tchrist@jhereg.perl.com
I've got plenty of inputs and outputs. I don't need the video. --Andrew Hume
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Date: 14 Mar 1997 22:09:41 GMT
From: nvp@shore.net (Nathan V. Patwardhan)
Subject: Re: Sockets Question
Message-Id: <5gcib5$rul@fridge-nf0.shore.net>
Rob Wilson (rwilson@eh.net) wrote:
: I have been trying, rather unsuccesfully, for some time now to open a
: socket using connect() that I can actually print to. I can use the send()
: function to write to a socket, but that adds extra characters on the end.
[snip]
Don't forget to flush (the buffers), and if you have a woman in the house,
don't forget to leave the seat down. :-)
$|=1;
--
Nathan V. Patwardhan
nvp@shore.net
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:02:06 -0600
From: Eryq <eryq@enteract.com>
To: Joseph Dane <jdane@honlab.nmfs.hawaii.edu>
Subject: Re: What language do Perl REs recognize?
Message-Id: <3329D8EE.68764806@enteract.com>
Joseph Dane wrote:
> I think maybe what he was referring to was a place somewhere between a
> context free grammar and a regular set. Perl RE's are not regular
> (backreferences, for instance) but they are not as powerful as CFGs
> either.
(snip)
> Maybe someone should come up with a name? Type 2.5 grammars?
> Peregualar Expressions?
I vote for Irregular Expressions. ;-)
--
___ _ _ _ _ ___ _ Eryq (eryq@enteract.com)
/ _ \| '_| | | |/ _ ' / Hughes STX, NASA/Goddard Space Flight Cntr.
| __/| | | |_| | |_| | http://www.enteract.com/~eryq
\___||_| \__, |\__, |___/\ Visit STREETWISE, Chicago's newspaper by/
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Date: 14 Mar 1997 22:53:53 GMT
From: Matt Kruse <mkruse@shamu.netexpress.net>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with "an email" (was: How to spam - legitimately)
Message-Id: <5gcku1$j01@news1-alterdial.uu.net>
Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com> wrote:
: I have come to believe that the linguistic dissonance we're experiencing
: is rooted in this: that the American mass media, a body congenitally
: devoid of all semblance of clue and subtlely, have insistently pushed the
: nontechnical masses on the internet bandwagon, and in so doing, they have
: unknowingly mangled an established term.
With all due respect, I think that's a bunch of bull. I work with highly
technical people, and some of them 'send out a few emails to the group'.
It's just a different way to use the term. Evolution of language - it
happens all the time. (Unless, of course, you're French, in which case
you must not use the words that come natural, but those that some
organization says are the correct 'french' versions).
It's as bad as randal complaining about "CGI's". Who cares if it's not
perfect? I've said "put together a few CGI's to do that" many times, and
although I know it's not technically correct, it gets the point across.
Although there *might* be a strictly correct way to use the term email
(there have even been arguments on how to spell it - e-mail, email,
Email, E-Mail, etc), and I doubt 'emails' will become a common term, it's
really not something to worry about.
The problems comes from internet be a written medium instead of a spoken
one. Do you say Gif with a hard G or like the peanut butter? Do you say
F-A-Q (fingernails on chalkboard) or FACK? Lie-nux or li-nux? Potayto
or Potahto?
Just be happy that on Internet we don't have to hear people "axe"
questions. :)
Matt "Or at least not until Ebonics meats Cybonics..." Kruse
--
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Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:37:33 GMT
From: "Brian Shepard" <brian@shepmark.com>
Subject: Win32/ODBC
Message-Id: <01bc30d9$a9f0d360$ae55b5cf@default>
Does anybody know if Perl/ODBC can be used without putting the files in
their appropiate spot but rather in my CGI bin. The server that I'm using
won't install ODBC files for me.
Anybody have a solution??
Brian Shepard, ShepMark
(416) 267-5985
email: brian@shepmark.com WWW: http://www.shepmark.com
Mail: 18 Ridgemoor Ave, Scarborough, Ontario, Canada M1N 1M4
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