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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 3943 Volume: 11

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Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 15:09:08 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest           Tue, 7 May 2013     Volume: 11 Number: 3943

Today's topics:
    Re: oh perlbal you!!! you got what i need....but you do <ben@morrow.me.uk>
    Re: oh perlbal you!!! you got what i need....but you do <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
    Re: oh perlbal you!!! you got what i need....but you do <peter@makholm.net>
    Re: printf question <ben@morrow.me.uk>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <ben@morrow.me.uk>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <ben@morrow.me.uk>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <kst-u@mib.org>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <ben@morrow.me.uk>
    Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python <ignoramus30465@NOSPAM.30465.invalid>
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 23:34:46 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: oh perlbal you!!! you got what i need....but you dotn work with 5 16
Message-Id: <6pnl5a-get1.ln1@anubis.morrow.me.uk>


Quoth johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com>:
> dont work with 5.16.3
> 
> oh perbal uuuuuuuu 

Do you have something intelligible to say?

Ben



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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 16:47:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: oh perlbal you!!! you got what i need....but you dotn work with 5 16
Message-Id: <8f526d44-0da1-4d75-8e52-f735cab47297@googlegroups.com>

On Monday, May 6, 2013 3:34:46 PM UTC-7, Ben Morrow wrote:
> Quoth johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com>:
> 
> > dont work with 5.16.3
> 
> > 
> 
> > oh perbal uuuuuuuu 
> 
> 
> 
> Do you have something intelligible to say?
> 
> 
> 
> Ben

perlbal does not install when I use 5.16.3 perl and cpanm

did you have luck?


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Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 08:57:50 +0200
From: Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net>
Subject: Re: oh perlbal you!!! you got what i need....but you dotn work with 5 16
Message-Id: <87y5brcm4x.fsf@vps1.hacking.dk>

johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com> writes:

> perlbal does not install when I use 5.16.3 perl and cpanm

'Does not install' is a pretty vague probelm description. If you expect
some useful respons you would probably need to describe the problem a
bit more. For example by quoting the failing tests.

Looking at http://www.cpantesters.org/distro/P/Perlbal.html#Perlbal-1.80
it doesn't seem to be in a fully working state, but the actual failures
differs quite a bit and none of them seems to be obvious based on my
generic knowledge of perl.

//Makholm


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Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 00:07:58 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: printf question
Message-Id: <enpl5a-lpt1.ln1@anubis.morrow.me.uk>


Quoth John Black <jblack@nospam.com>:
> In article <51880e40$0$36530$862e30e2@ngroups.net>,
> hymie@lactose.homelinux.net says...
> > 
> > In our last episode, the evil Dr. Lacto had captured our hero,
> >   John Black <jblack@nospam.com>, who said:
> > >Hopefully a simple question...
> > >
> > >Given this printf that specifies some fixed length left justified columns:
> > >
> > >   printf "%-30s, %-30s, %-30s\n", $a, $b, $c;
> > >
> > >How can I make the hardcoded number 30 use a variable, say $len instead?
> > 
> > $format = "%-${len}s, %-${len}s, %-${len}s\n";
> > printf $format, $a, $b, $c;
> 
> I like the idea of putting $format in its own variable for readability
> and for use in 
> multiple printf statements.  Thanks.

    my $format = sprintf "%%-%ds", $len;
    $format = join ", ", ($format) x 3;
    printf "$format\n", $a, $b, $c;

Ben



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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 15:56:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <59ec2748-dfb3-49bb-a21a-e091e6432d00@googlegroups.com>

On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:17:22 PM UTC-7, Henry Law wrote:
> On 06/05/13 21:39, johannes falcone wrote:
> 
> > on TV pier morgan was nuked by VA gun advocate who shoed Uk has 988 gun deaths 2011
> 
> 
> 
> Are you a bot or just a fool? Or maybe you just watch Fox and listen to 
> 
> Beck.  Which makes you a fool anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> 2011 UK (pop ~60M) gun deaths: 51.  Virginia (pop ~8M) 303 homicides, 
> 
> 69% by firearm = 209.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> Henry Law            Manchester, England

no the cops in uk say 988, government numbers are lie
:)
look on youtube the guy from VA nuked piers morgan into the stoine age


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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 15:57:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <4f79e29d-7ce1-4ae3-98d3-424bbf7d0eae@googlegroups.com>

On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:34:37 PM UTC-7, J=FCrgen Exner wrote:
> johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> >on TV pier=20
>=20
>=20
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> Is a TV pier something like a harbour pier, i.e. like the cruise ship
>=20
> pier 91 or the famous tourist pier 54 in Seatlle?
>=20
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> >morgan was nuked by VA gun advocate who shoed=20
>=20
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> What shoe? Left shoe or right shoe? And what kind of shoe, there are so
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> many different styles to choose from?
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> >Uk has 988 gun deaths 2011 and VA area 10% of that by population!!=20
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> >boom!!
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> >
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> >pier nuked again into anonimty!
>=20
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> What??????
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> Would you mind translating this into English?
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> jue

pier was a moron and got made a monkey of lol
bigtime
stop watching cnn its all lies
like when they said obama care will make insurance cheaper LOL


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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 15:58:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <f8b4888d-258d-4573-9c17-0fa6c72a29a1@googlegroups.com>

On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:23:05 PM UTC-7, J=FCrgen Exner wrote:
> johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> >On Monday, May 6, 2013 12:44:52 PM UTC-7, J=FCrgen Exner wrote:
>=20
> >> johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>=20
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> >> >On Monday, May 6, 2013 12:20:51 PM UTC-7, J=FCrgen Exner wrote:
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> >>=20
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> >> >> johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>=20
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> >> >>=20
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> >> Please don't falsify quoted text, I did not write that empty line.
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> >> >> >hows the communism in england?
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> >> Please don't falsify quoted text, I wrote only one of those 3 empty
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> >>=20
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> >> lines.=20
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> [...]
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> I guess you find it amusing to litter quotes text with faked emtpy
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> lines, doubling the length of your full-quotes with junk and making the
>=20
> quotes impossible to read..
>=20
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> Well, I don't
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> ****PLONK****
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> jue

wtf you talking about? I am using google groups with 0 trickery here


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Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 00:02:53 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <tdpl5a-lpt1.ln1@anubis.morrow.me.uk>


Quoth Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>:
> johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >being slaves to fascism?
> 
> If I'm not very much mistaken a certain Sir Winston, KG, OM, CH, TD, DL,
> FRS, Hon. RA  took care of that about 70 years ago.

I'm hardly proud of this, but there was also a Sir Oswald who carried on
that sort of unpleasantness for quite a while after that, not to mention
the likes of the BNP which are unfortunately with us to this day.
Unsurprisingly, fascism is not the sort of thing you can get rid of by
winning a war.

> On that note: when did you stop beating your wife?

Mu.

Ben



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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 16:05:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <facfb940-a902-435c-9a20-1694df8c17cf@googlegroups.com>

On Monday, May 6, 2013 2:17:22 PM UTC-7, Henry Law wrote:
> On 06/05/13 21:39, johannes falcone wrote:
> 
> > on TV pier morgan was nuked by VA gun advocate who shoed Uk has 988 gun deaths 2011
> 
> 
> 
> Are you a bot or just a fool? Or maybe you just watch Fox and listen to 
> 
> Beck.  Which makes you a fool anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> 2011 UK (pop ~60M) gun deaths: 51.  Virginia (pop ~8M) 303 homicides, 
> 
> 69% by firearm = 209.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> Henry Law            Manchester, England

looks like you are the fool LOL
"The data that you are using for the murder rate in England is a sham. There's a monumental miss-reporting of what constitutes murder," claimed Pratt. "If three people are murdered, it's likely to be counted as one event."

Of no surprise to those who regularly watch the show, Morgan didn't take too kindly to such a suggestion:

"What an absolute, absolute lie," he exclaimed.

"You are telling me that 50 murders a year, these are simply invented statistics, and in fact the figures in Britain for gun murders are many more times that?" Morgan asked.

"That's exactly what your own constabulary is saying," insisted the guest. "You had 970. I don't know what you're talking about."

http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/09/larry-pratt-disputes-piers-morgans-statistics-of-gun-murders-in-britain-and-wales-you-had-970-i-dont-know-what-youre-talking-about/

BOOOM!!!!


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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 16:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <eb4dd796-70fc-4306-b19e-01faa20d585c@googlegroups.com>

On Monday, May 6, 2013 4:02:53 PM UTC-7, Ben Morrow wrote:
> Quoth J=EF=BF=BDrgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>:
>=20
> > johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > >being slaves to fascism?
>=20
> >=20
>=20
> > If I'm not very much mistaken a certain Sir Winston, KG, OM, CH, TD, DL=
,
>=20
> > FRS, Hon. RA  took care of that about 70 years ago.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I'm hardly proud of this, but there was also a Sir Oswald who carried on
>=20
> that sort of unpleasantness for quite a while after that, not to mention
>=20
> the likes of the BNP which are unfortunately with us to this day.
>=20
> Unsurprisingly, fascism is not the sort of thing you can get rid of by
>=20
> winning a war.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > On that note: when did you stop beating your wife?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Mu.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Ben

so few business do well in england due to crushing taxes and VAT

sad=20

I couldnt live there


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Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 01:05:40 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <k3tl5a-mhu1.ln1@anubis.morrow.me.uk>


Quoth johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com>:
> 
> so few business do well in england due to crushing taxes and VAT
> 
> sad 
> 
> I couldnt live there

Thank God for small mercies...

Ben



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Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 17:30:16 -0700
From: Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <lnk3nb8wdj.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org>

Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> writes:
> johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Monday, May 6, 2013 12:20:51 PM UTC-7, Jürgen Exner wrote:
>>> johannes falcone <visphatesjava@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>
> Please don't falsify quoted text, I did not write that empty line.
>
>>> >hows the communism in england?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>
> Please don't falsify quoted text, I wrote only one of those 3 empty
> lines. 
[...]

Google Groups has a serious bug; it double-spaces quoted text,
quadruple-spaces quoted quoted text, and so on.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"


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Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 01:38:31 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <71vl5a-5iv1.ln1@anubis.morrow.me.uk>


Quoth Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>:
> Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > Please don't falsify quoted text, I wrote only one of those 3 empty
> > lines. 
> 
> Google Groups has a serious bug; it double-spaces quoted text,
> quadruple-spaces quoted quoted text, and so on.

'Don't do that then.'

Honest posters might get the benefit of the doubt, for a while; trolls
do not.

Ben



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Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 20:53:13 -0500
From: Ignoramus30465 <ignoramus30465@NOSPAM.30465.invalid>
Subject: Re: Why do Perl programmers make more money than Python programmers
Message-Id: <n62dnWKoAucUwxXMnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@giganews.com>

On 2013-05-06, Henry Law <news@lawshouse.org> wrote:
> On 05/05/13 18:11, Ignoramus16992 wrote:
>> According to CIO.com
>
> What an amusing thread; lightened my (non-programmer) day.
>

I guess you are from the python newsgroup then. :)


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