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Today's topics:
Re: how to make a perl tk like thing <cartercc@gmail.com>
Re: how to make a perl tk like thing <uri@StemSystems.com>
Re: how to make a perl tk like thing <sherm.pendley@gmail.com>
Re: how to make a perl tk like thing <cartercc@gmail.com>
Re: how to make a perl tk like thing <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Re: how to make a perl tk like thing <uri@StemSystems.com>
Re: how to make a perl tk like thing <sherm.pendley@gmail.com>
Regex help <hara.acharya@gmail.com>
Re: Regex help <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Re: Regex help <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid>
Re: Regex help <marc.girod@gmail.com>
Who will win the battle for control of the web? <cartercc@gmail.com>
Re: Who will win the battle for control of the web? <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Re: Who will win the battle for control of the web? <cartercc@gmail.com>
Re: Who will win the battle for control of the web? <sherm.pendley@gmail.com>
Re: Who will win the battle for control of the web? <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:22:39 -0800 (PST)
From: ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: how to make a perl tk like thing
Message-Id: <f5a4e019-7081-43f8-9ba6-6833f60d3682@n10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 28, 6:27=A0pm, Robin <r...@thevoid1.net> wrote:
> How can I design my own graphical tookit like perl tk.
> Thanks very much in advance.
Why would you want to do such a thing? As good a tool as Perl is,
there are some tasks for which other languages are better suited. If
you are wanting to play with graphical user interfaces (assuming that
this is the thrust of your question) you probably are targeting PCs
running Windows, and these days you would probably want to use
something that works with either the JVM or .NET, or if you are really
a masochist, the underlying C system libraries.
I'm certainly not advocating the use of VB or the like, but building a
GUI app with VS is much easier and a lot faster than with Perl, even
if you use C++ and especially the MSIL extensions.
CC.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:55:14 -0500
From: "Uri Guttman" <uri@StemSystems.com>
Subject: Re: how to make a perl tk like thing
Message-Id: <87d3ponhfh.fsf@quad.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "c" == ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> writes:
c> On Nov 28, 6:27 pm, Robin <r...@thevoid1.net> wrote:
>> How can I design my own graphical tookit like perl tk.
>> Thanks very much in advance.
c> Why would you want to do such a thing? As good a tool as Perl is,
c> there are some tasks for which other languages are better suited. If
c> you are wanting to play with graphical user interfaces (assuming that
c> this is the thrust of your question) you probably are targeting PCs
c> running Windows, and these days you would probably want to use
c> something that works with either the JVM or .NET, or if you are really
c> a masochist, the underlying C system libraries.
c> I'm certainly not advocating the use of VB or the like, but building a
c> GUI app with VS is much easier and a lot faster than with Perl, even
c> if you use C++ and especially the MSIL extensions.
you misinterpreted our dear robin's insane request. there are several
major gui libs out there. she wants to write a new one in perl! given
robin's lackluster coding and perl skills, it would be amusing to
watch. i can just see the x11 manuals going up in smoke.
uri
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:27:10 -0500
From: Sherm Pendley <sherm.pendley@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: how to make a perl tk like thing
Message-Id: <m2hbf0rnnl.fsf@sherm.shermpendley.com>
ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> writes:
> On Nov 28, 6:27Â pm, Robin <r...@thevoid1.net> wrote:
>> How can I design my own graphical tookit like perl tk.
>> Thanks very much in advance.
>
> Why would you want to do such a thing?
Given Robin's past history of combining incompetence with arrogance, I
assume it's because he couldn't figure out Tk, so therefore assumes he
can write something "better."
> I'm certainly not advocating the use of VB or the like, but building a
> GUI app with VS is much easier and a lot faster than with Perl
For you perhaps. Some of us *do* have the skill and maturity to write
huge code bases of well-structured code without needing to use a B&D
language that forces us to do so. It isn't Perl's fault if you don't.
sherm--
--
Sherm Pendley
<http://camelbones.sourceforge.net>
Cocoa Developer
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:55:21 -0800 (PST)
From: ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: how to make a perl tk like thing
Message-Id: <9b8f5d76-1c79-442f-a5ae-b27a18c965e3@a7g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 29, 1:27=A0pm, Sherm Pendley <sherm.pend...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm certainly not advocating the use of VB or the like, but building a
> > GUI app with VS is much easier and a lot faster than with Perl
>
> For you perhaps. Some of us *do* have the skill and maturity to write
> huge code bases of well-structured code without needing to use a B&D
> language that forces us to do so. It isn't Perl's fault if you don't.
Let me clarify. It doesn't take one little bit of skill or maturity to
sit down with Visual Studio, open a new GUI app, drag and drop a few
controls on the canvas, write a little code for each control, package
it up, and deliver it to the user. It only takes a little bit of skill
and maturity to connect the app to a database, say Access or SQL
Server, and deliver graphical front end to a database.
If there's a D&D IDE for Perl, I don't know of it.
I had a good taste of MIS taking a management course in graduate
school. In business and management schools, they don't teach Perl, but
Microsoft products, in particular, Visual Basic, Visual Studio, and
Access. These guys could bash out little VB apps all day long and not
break into a sweat. But I had the last laugh ... they had errors with
embedded commas in their data, and I rode to the rescue with Perl and
a regex that solved the problem. They regarded the regex the same way
that I imagine the Aztecs regarded the Spanish muskets and horses --
as something that worked but was completely unexplainable in human
terms. ;-)
CC.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:00:58 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: how to make a perl tk like thing
Message-Id: <slrnif827s.i9g.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>
Uri Guttman <uri@StemSystems.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "c" == ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> writes:
> c> On Nov 28, 6:27Â pm, Robin <r...@thevoid1.net> wrote:
> >> How can I design my own graphical tookit like perl tk.
> c> Why would you want to do such a thing?
> you misinterpreted our dear robin's insane request.
^
^
You have too many letters in that word.
--
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.liamg\100cm.j.dat/"
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:27:39 -0500
From: "Uri Guttman" <uri@StemSystems.com>
Subject: Re: how to make a perl tk like thing
Message-Id: <87ipzflvt0.fsf@quad.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "c" == ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> writes:
c> On Nov 29, 1:27 pm, Sherm Pendley <sherm.pend...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm certainly not advocating the use of VB or the like, but building a
>> > GUI app with VS is much easier and a lot faster than with Perl
>>
>> For you perhaps. Some of us *do* have the skill and maturity to write
>> huge code bases of well-structured code without needing to use a B&D
>> language that forces us to do so. It isn't Perl's fault if you don't.
c> Let me clarify. It doesn't take one little bit of skill or maturity to
c> sit down with Visual Studio, open a new GUI app, drag and drop a few
c> controls on the canvas, write a little code for each control, package
c> it up, and deliver it to the user. It only takes a little bit of skill
c> and maturity to connect the app to a database, say Access or SQL
c> Server, and deliver graphical front end to a database.
again, you are way off base. robin wasn't asking about using a gui kit
in perl but how to WRITE one from scratch in perl. very different
animals. so stop this nonsense thread now.
uri
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:02:32 -0500
From: Sherm Pendley <sherm.pendley@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: how to make a perl tk like thing
Message-Id: <m2d3pnsv13.fsf@sherm.shermpendley.com>
ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> writes:
> On Nov 29, 1:27Â pm, Sherm Pendley <sherm.pend...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm certainly not advocating the use of VB or the like, but building a
>> > GUI app with VS is much easier and a lot faster than with Perl
>>
>> For you perhaps. Some of us *do* have the skill and maturity to write
>> huge code bases of well-structured code without needing to use a B&D
>> language that forces us to do so. It isn't Perl's fault if you don't.
>
> Let me clarify.
You misspelled "change the subject and ramble endlessly."
Skilled programmers can be just as productive with Perl as with any
other language, if not more so. The fact that unskilled programmers
cannot do so isn't Perl's fault.
It's a poor workman that blames his tools.
sherm--
--
Sherm Pendley
<http://camelbones.sourceforge.net>
Cocoa Developer
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:56:59 -0800 (PST)
From: king <hara.acharya@gmail.com>
Subject: Regex help
Message-Id: <2e958e6c-5983-4161-a7be-eb4e87939a4c@c17g2000prm.googlegroups.com>
I have the below text:
Want to store it in array using regular expression.
The script is as below.
"
open(SYSCMD, "dccmd -listmodes |");
while(<SYSCMD>)
{
if(/^(\d+)[\s+](\d+)/)
{
chomp;
push(@X_Cord, $1);
}
if(/[\s+](\d+)[\s+](.*)$/)
{
chomp;
push(@Y_Cord, $1);
}
if(/(\d+)(\s+)(\d+)$/)
{
chomp;
push(@depth, $1);
}
if(/(\s+)(\d+)$/)
{
chomp;
push(@refresh, $1);
}
}
close(SYSCMD);
foreach(@X_Cord)
{
print "$_\n";
}
foreach(@Y_Cord)
{
print "$_\n";
}
foreach(@depth)
{
print "$_\n";
}
foreach(@refresh)
{
print "$_\n";
}
"
The output of dccmd command is
"Resolution Changer 3.12 from 12noon (12noon.com)
Width Height Depth Rate
320 200 8 60
320 200 16 60
320 200 32 60
512 384 8 60
512 384 16 60
512 384 32 60
640 400 8 60
640 400 16 60
640 400 32 60
640 480 8 60
640 480 16 60
640 480 32 60
800 600 8 60
800 600 16 60
800 600 32 60
1024 768 8 60
1024 768 16 60
1024 768 32 60
1280 800 8 60
1280 800 16 60
1280 800 32 60
"
From the script I am getting only X_cord and Y_cord. But I am not
getting the depth and refresh.
Can anybody help me with the refresh rate.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:39:38 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: Regex help
Message-Id: <slrnif7fda.hal.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>
king <hara.acharya@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have the below text:
> Want to store it in array using regular expression.
Why must it be by using a regular expression?
If there is a solution that does not use a regular expression,
then you do not want to see that solution?
The best solution to your problem does not use regular expressions at all.
> while(<SYSCMD>)
> {
> if(/^(\d+)[\s+](\d+)/)
> {
> chomp;
Why do you think that chomp() should be there?
It does not do anything useful.
It removes the newline from $_, but your code never does anything with $_!
> push(@X_Cord, $1);
> }
> if(/[\s+](\d+)[\s+](.*)$/)
Why do you think that the square brackets should be there?
They do not do anything useful here either.
In fact, the do something *harmful* as they match plus characters (+)
as well as whitespace characters!
Try it:
$_ = '+42+';
print "matched $_ \$1=$1\n" if /[\s+](\d+)[\s+](.*)$/;
If you remove the square brackets, then it would make no output...
>
> {
> chomp;
> push(@Y_Cord, $1);
> }
> if(/(\d+)(\s+)(\d+)$/)
>
> {
> chomp;
> push(@depth, $1);
>
> }
> if(/(\s+)(\d+)$/)
whitespace goes into $1 and digits go into $2...
> {
> chomp;
> push(@refresh, $1);
...now you push those whitespaces into the @refresh array.
> }
>
> }
Having 4 "parallel" arrays like that is an indication that you
have chosen the wrong data structure.
An array of hashes (LoH) would be a better choice here.
See
perldoc perllol
> The output of dccmd command is
> "Resolution Changer 3.12 from 12noon (12noon.com)
>
> Width Height Depth Rate
>
> 320 200 8 60
>
> 320 200 16 60
>
> 320 200 32 60
>
> 512 384 8 60
>
> 512 384 16 60
---------------------
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;
my @data;
while (<DATA>) {
next unless /^\d/;
my %h;
@h{qw/ x y depth rate /} = split; # a "Hash Slice", see perldata.pod
push @data, \%h;
}
print "$_->{x}\n" for @data;
print "$_->{y}\n" for @data;
__DATA__
"Resolution Changer 3.12 from 12noon (12noon.com)
Width Height Depth Rate
320 200 8 60
320 200 16 60
320 200 32 60
512 384 8 60
512 384 16 60
---------------------
> From the script I am getting only X_cord and Y_cord. But I am not
> getting the depth and refresh.
> Can anybody help me with the refresh rate.
Count the opening parenthesis in your regular expression, then
access the correct dollar-digit variable.
--
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.liamg\100cm.j.dat/"
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:11:00 -0600
From: "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid>
Subject: Re: Regex help
Message-Id: <4cf3fac5$0$4363$815e3792@news.qwest.net>
king wrote:
> I have the below text:
> Want to store it in array using regular expression.
>
> The script is as below.
> "
> open(SYSCMD, "dccmd -listmodes |");
>
> while(<SYSCMD>)
> {
> if(/^(\d+)[\s+](\d+)/)
> {
> chomp;
> push(@X_Cord, $1);
> }
> if(/[\s+](\d+)[\s+](.*)$/)
>
> {
> chomp;
> push(@Y_Cord, $1);
> }
> if(/(\d+)(\s+)(\d+)$/)
>
> {
> chomp;
> push(@depth, $1);
>
> }
> if(/(\s+)(\d+)$/)
> {
> chomp;
> push(@refresh, $1);
>
> }
>
> }
> close(SYSCMD);
>
> foreach(@X_Cord)
> {
> print "$_\n";
> }
> foreach(@Y_Cord)
> {
> print "$_\n";
> }
> foreach(@depth)
> {
> print "$_\n";
> }
> foreach(@refresh)
> {
> print "$_\n";
> }
> "
>
> The output of dccmd command is
> "Resolution Changer 3.12 from 12noon (12noon.com)
>
> Width Height Depth Rate
>
> 320 200 8 60
[...]
>
> 1280 800 16 60
>
> 1280 800 32 60
>
> "
> From the script I am getting only X_cord and Y_cord. But I am not
> getting the depth and refresh.
> Can anybody help me with the refresh rate.
Excessive indentation there..
First, when asking for help, post your code as something we can
run. As it is, everyone would have to cut and paste your data,
modify your open, and likely your while, etc.. If you provide it
as something everyone can simply cut & paste, you'll make it easier
for everyone. e.g. __DATA__ or something similar.
Second, to help you/us, it might be good to show label what is
being printed to STDOUT.
e.g.
print "X Cord:\n";
foreach(@X_Cord)
{
print "$_\n";
}
etc.
You'll see that you are getting a value for everything, but for
refresh, the value is whitespace, at least I do when I go through
the hassle of getting your script to run.
"Why is it whitespace?", you ask.
Because, you're pushing $1, which is the first match (\s+), here.
> if(/(\s+)(\d+)$/)
> {
> chomp;
> push(@refresh, $1);
>
> }
Change it to $2, or better yet don't capture the whitespace:
if( /\s+(\d+)$/ ) { ... }
The other regular expressions could use some work too..
if(/^(\d+)[\s+](\d+)/) {
chomp;
push(@X_Cord, $1);
}
No need to capture the second chunk of digits, since you're not
doing anything with the data, like storing it into an array.
[\s+]
No need for character class [] there..
Possibly, using split, instead of these regular expressions, might
be a better option.
For more help with regular expressions, read through:
perldoc perlre
For split, see:
perldoc -f split
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:53:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Marc Girod <marc.girod@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Regex help
Message-Id: <6c6ec3c3-91ab-43f1-85e8-2ec505843ba9@g25g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 29, 12:01=A0pm, king <hara.acha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> while(<SYSCMD>)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 {
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 if(/^(\d+)[\s+](\d+)/)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 {
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 chomp;
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 push(@X_C=
ord, $1);
You match to the end of height, but you use only width...
Be less verbose--less is more:
use strict;
my (@X_Cord, @Y_Cord, @depth, @refresh);
my $v;
while(<SYSCMD>) {
my @f =3D /\d+/g;
push @X_Cord, $v if $v =3D shift @f;
push @Y_Cord, $v if $v =3D shift @f;
push @depth, $v if $v =3D shift @f;
push @refresh, $v if $v =3D shift @f;
}
Note that if you have wholes in your table, you'll get arrays of
different sizes, not knowing what value to attribute to what index.
Marc
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:37:37 -0800 (PST)
From: ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: Who will win the battle for control of the web?
Message-Id: <f2e1a7fa-1d96-4694-b0d9-1134ca1046f8@z19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
Just finished reading 'Who will win the battle for control of the
web?' It's a worthwhile read, and can be found at:
www.pcpro.co.uk/features/363175/who-will-win-the-battle-for-control-of-the-=
web
Executive summary: "A series of critical breakthroughs =96 massively
increased bandwidth, the demand for rich media, cloud computing, the
advent of wireless connectivity and the rise of mobile devices =96 has
created the foundations for the next generation of rich internet-based
apps." Five contenders: (1) Adobe, (2) Microsoft, (3) Apple, (4)
Google, and (5) HTML5 will vie for the top spot, and each has both
strong points and weak points, and at this point it's a real
melee."The only safe prediction is that there will be plenty more
twists, turns, alliances and battles to come before the war is finally
decided."
Reactions from the Perl community?
My take is this: The core competency of the web is content, not eye-
candy. Perl's strength lies in delivering content -- it's the
Practical Extraction and Reporting Language after all. Perl excels in
connecting data stores to web based interfaces and manipulating the
data to produce information and for delivery to end users, but does
not even compete with the eye-candy apps. I can see the use of Perl to
dynamically spit out HTML, CSS, JavaScript, SVG, ?ML (including Flex),
and occupying a strong position underneath the five contenders (with
the probable exception of Silverlight, which can leverage .NET apps).
I could even see Perl being used to generate eye-candy directly, like
JavaFX, but without the sexiness of Flash, Android, iOS, etc.
Does Perl have a stake in the battle for control of the web? If so,
what is Perl's position?
CC.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:11:40 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: Who will win the battle for control of the web?
Message-Id: <slrnif7oad.hte.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>
ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just finished reading 'Who will win the battle for control of the
> web?' It's a worthwhile read, and can be found at:
> www.pcpro.co.uk/features/363175/who-will-win-the-battle-for-control-of-the-web
>
> Executive summary: "A series of critical breakthroughs – massively
> increased bandwidth, the demand for rich media, cloud computing, the
> advent of wireless connectivity and the rise of mobile devices – has
> created the foundations for the next generation of rich internet-based
> apps." Five contenders: (1) Adobe,
Adobe is a company.
> (2) Microsoft,
Microsoft is a company.
> (3) Apple,
Apple is a company.
> (4)
> Google, and
Google is a company.
> (5) HTML5
HTML5 is not a company.
What is it doing in this list?
> will vie for the top spot, and each has both
> strong points and weak points, and at this point it's a real
> melee."The only safe prediction is that there will be plenty more
> twists, turns, alliances and battles to come before the war is finally
> decided."
Why are there quotation marks around that?
Where are you quoting it from?
--
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.liamg\100cm.j.dat/"
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:34:07 -0800 (PST)
From: ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Who will win the battle for control of the web?
Message-Id: <f8c3c5d3-84d3-41dc-9266-ef0d7da8f147@n10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 29, 12:11=A0pm, Tad McClellan <ta...@seesig.invalid> wrote:
> HTML5 is not a company.
>
> What is it doing in this list?
The article to which I referred evaluated five technologies with
respect to delivering RIAs. HTML5 isn't a company, but might prove
itself a competitor to Flash in the future. I didn't write the
article, and I didn't pick the technologies -- I thought that it was a
reasonably good read IF you are interested in the topic, and wondered
how Perl fit into the picture, if at all. Is Perl totally irrelevant
to this discussion?
> > "The only safe prediction is that there will be plenty more
> > twists, turns, alliances and battles to come before the war is finally
> > decided."
>
> Why are there quotation marks around that?
Because it's a direct quotation from the article.
> Where are you quoting it from?
www.pcpro.co.uk/features/363175/
who-will-win-the-battle-for-control-of-the-web
I'm not trying to pick a fight. I don't like Flash, Silverlight,
Objective C, iOS, Android, JavaFX, or RIAs in general. I think the WWW
is a great way to deliver information, and frequently write HTMLized
interfaces to databases and functionalities. I got my start in IT with
the web, two decades ago, and I'm just trying to figure out how what I
do fits into the world that this article describes.
Do you have anything to say about this? (This isn't intended to be
disrespectful, I would be interested to know your thoughts, if you
care to post them.)
CC.
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:10:20 -0500
From: Sherm Pendley <sherm.pendley@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Who will win the battle for control of the web?
Message-Id: <m2lj4crofn.fsf@sherm.shermpendley.com>
ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> writes:
> Is Perl totally irrelevant to this discussion?
Yes. Print() is print(), and it works the same way no matter what kind
of content you happen to be printing.
sherm--
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Sherm Pendley
<http://camelbones.sourceforge.net>
Cocoa Developer
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:57:31 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: Who will win the battle for control of the web?
Message-Id: <slrnif821e.i9g.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>
ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 12:11Â pm, Tad McClellan <ta...@seesig.invalid> wrote:
> Is Perl totally irrelevant
> to this discussion?
Yes.
>> > "The only safe prediction is that there will be plenty more
>> > twists, turns, alliances and battles to come before the war is finally
>> > decided."
>>
>> Why are there quotation marks around that?
>
> Because it's a direct quotation from the article.
Oh, I see.
There was quote at the beginning and a quote at the end and some
editorial in the middle ("Five contenders...").
The editorial was the part that I was questioning.
I thought the author of the article didn't understand the difference
I pointed out, but that was you, not the author.
> Do you have anything to say about this?
Nope, as it has nothing to do with Perl, it is off-topic here.
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Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.liamg\100cm.j.dat/"
The above message is a Usenet post.
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.
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