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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 28 Sep 2010 Volume: 11 Number: 3151
Today's topics:
Re: Claimed to be an "old hack" (Randal L. Schwartz)
Re: Claimed to be an "old hack" <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: Displaying 'umlaut' character <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid? <peter@makholm.net>
Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid? (David Canzi)
Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid? <Joey@still_Learning.invalid>
Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid? <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid? <Joey@still_Learning.invalid>
Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid? <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: Long script "just stops" sometime <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: Need Regex for phone number <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Re: Need Regex for phone number <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Re: Need Regex for phone number sln@netherlands.com
Re: Need Regex for phone number (Randal L. Schwartz)
Re: Need Regex for phone number <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Re: Need Regex for phone number <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Re: toy list processing problem: collect similar terms <xahlee@gmail.com>
Re: toy list processing problem: collect similar terms <john@castleamber.com>
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 08:35:51 -0700
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Claimed to be an "old hack"
Message-Id: <86pqvxop7s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>
>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk> writes:
Ben> I know it's not *equivalent*. But, in this case, that *is* how it's
Ben> being used. It's a very usual way of doing a compact if-then-else in
Ben> shell, which is probably where it comes from.
No, it's a broken cargo-culted way of doing a compact if-then-else.
Please don't repeat it.
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:04:32 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Claimed to be an "old hack"
Message-Id: <g9g9n7-it42.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz):
> >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk> writes:
>
> Ben> I know it's not *equivalent*. But, in this case, that *is* how it's
> Ben> being used. It's a very usual way of doing a compact if-then-else in
> Ben> shell, which is probably where it comes from.
>
> No, it's a broken cargo-culted way of doing a compact if-then-else.
>
> Please don't repeat it.
I agree entirely. I was attempting to make that clear to the OP (in fact
I was attempting to make it clear that the whole approach was broken and
should be replaced with File::Basename). I'm sorry if I failed to do so.
Ben
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:58:40 +0200
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: Displaying 'umlaut' character
Message-Id: <slrnia4ena.ack.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2010-09-26 15:26, Frank van Bortel <fbortel@home.nl> wrote:
> On 09/22/2010 06:35 PM, joel garry wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 12:20 am, Frank van Bortel<fbor...@home.nl> wrote:
>>> Maybe this helps: (shameless self promotion)http://vanbortel.blogspot.com/2009/04/special-characters-part-i.html
>>> Last part is here:http://vanbortel.blogspot.com/2010/01/special-characters-part-iv.html
>>
>> Thanks for that Frank, I'm always forgetting where I've seen the
>> excellent write-up.
I disagree. It isn't excellent. It is at best didactically inept and at
worst dangerously wrong.
> Thanks for the thumbs up.
>
> However - one thing I was trying to clarify,
> is the fact that
> * you do not store characters; you store code points
Nope. Of course from a very low-level point of view you only store
bytes. But those bytes have a meaning for Oracle - in the case of a
varchar2 field they mean characters, just as they mean floating point
numbers in a number field or dates in date field.
> * there's no such thing as a wrong database character set
The database character set is wrong if it isn't able to represent the
characters you want to store.
> (a.k.a. there's always one way to screw up, at least!)
There is also a way to not screw up. That would be the way most people
prefer.
hp
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:10:17 +0200
From: Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net>
Subject: Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid?
Message-Id: <874oda2n7a.fsf@vps1.hacking.dk>
"Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+usenet@xs4all.nl> writes:
> On 2010-09-28 00:11, Joey@still_Learning.invalid wrote:
>
>> Is the syntax $A = $B = $C = number acceptable?
> my $foo = my $bar = my $baz = number;
While perfectly fine, I would probably write this as
my ($foo, $bar, $baz) = (number) x 3;
But I'm not sure it has ever come up in my code before. The situation
where you would need to store a variable in a local variable and a
more global hash is much more common, like in the Catalyst example.
//Makholm
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:06:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: dmcanzi@remulak.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi)
Subject: Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid?
Message-Id: <i7t7am$aos$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <slrnia2frk.vn8.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>,
Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>Joey@still_Learning.invalid <Joey@still_Learning.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Is the syntax $A = $B = $C = number acceptable?
>
>
>It is awfully rude of you to ask people when a machine could be asked
>instead.
>
> perl -ce '$A = $B = $C = 42'
>
>-e syntax OK
$ perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e '$A = $B = $C = 42'
Global symbol "$A" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
Global symbol "$B" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
Global symbol "$C" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
-e had compilation errors.
$ perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e 'my $A = my $B = my $C = 42'
-e syntax OK
--
David Canzi | "If you can't learn to do something well, learn
| to enjoy doing it poorly." -- Ashleigh Brilliant
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:23:41 -0700
From: "Joey@still_Learning.invalid" <Joey@still_Learning.invalid>
Subject: Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid?
Message-Id: <8394a6hca8u4k0utqg6mtn1amrkj0idge4@4ax.com>
David Canzi wrote:
>In article <slrnia2frk.vn8.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>,
>Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>>Joey@still_Learning.invalid <Joey@still_Learning.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Is the syntax $A = $B = $C = number acceptable?
>>
>>
>>It is awfully rude of you to ask people when a machine could be asked
>>instead.
>>
>> perl -ce '$A = $B = $C = 42'
>>
>>-e syntax OK
>
>$ perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e '$A = $B = $C = 42'
>Global symbol "$A" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
>Global symbol "$B" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
>Global symbol "$C" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
>-e had compilation errors.
>
>$ perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e 'my $A = my $B = my $C = 42'
>-e syntax OK
Thanks. This begs the question 'what if the variables are intended to be
global?'
--
Joey
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:55:15 -0500
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid?
Message-Id: <slrnia4b1o.8mv.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>
Joey@still_Learning.invalid <Joey@still_Learning.invalid> wrote:
> David Canzi wrote:
>
>>In article <slrnia2frk.vn8.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>,
>>Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>>>Joey@still_Learning.invalid <Joey@still_Learning.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is the syntax $A = $B = $C = number acceptable?
>>>
>>>
>>>It is awfully rude of you to ask people when a machine could be asked
>>>instead.
>>>
>>> perl -ce '$A = $B = $C = 42'
>>>
>>>-e syntax OK
>>
>>$ perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e '$A = $B = $C = 42'
>>Global symbol "$A" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
>>Global symbol "$B" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
>>Global symbol "$C" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
>>-e had compilation errors.
>>
>>$ perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e 'my $A = my $B = my $C = 42'
>>-e syntax OK
>
> Thanks. This begs the question 'what if the variables are intended to be
> global?'
Then declare them to be global:
perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e 'our $A = our $B = our $C = 42'
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:59:45 -0700
From: "Joey@still_Learning.invalid" <Joey@still_Learning.invalid>
Subject: Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid?
Message-Id: <97b4a65dcoqu1jv9cfhb4br1tltmorvgei@4ax.com>
Tad McClellan wrote:
>Joey@still_Learning.invalid <Joey@still_Learning.invalid> wrote:
>> David Canzi wrote:
>>
>>>In article <slrnia2frk.vn8.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>,
>>>Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>>>>Joey@still_Learning.invalid <Joey@still_Learning.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is the syntax $A = $B = $C = number acceptable?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is awfully rude of you to ask people when a machine could be asked
>>>>instead.
>>>>
>>>> perl -ce '$A = $B = $C = 42'
>>>>
>>>>-e syntax OK
>>>
>>>$ perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e '$A = $B = $C = 42'
>>>Global symbol "$A" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
>>>Global symbol "$B" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
>>>Global symbol "$C" requires explicit package name at -e line 1.
>>>-e had compilation errors.
>>>
>>>$ perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e 'my $A = my $B = my $C = 42'
>>>-e syntax OK
>>
>> Thanks. This begs the question 'what if the variables are intended to be
>> global?'
>
>
>Then declare them to be global:
>
> perl -c -Mstrict -Mwarnings -e 'our $A = our $B = our $C = 42'
Doh! Thanks.
--
Joey
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:07:47 +0200
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: Is $A = $B = n; valid?
Message-Id: <slrnia4f83.ack.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2010-09-28 02:59, Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
> Joey@still_Learning.invalid <Joey@still_Learning.invalid> wrote:
>> Ben Morrow wrote:
>>>
>>>Quoth "Joey@still_Learning.invalid" <Joey@still_Learning.invalid>:
>>>> Is the syntax $A = $B = $C = number acceptable?
>>>
>>>What happened when you tried it?
>
>
>> I was
>> inquiring about its acceptability in practice.
>
>
> You may have intended to ask that, but that is not what you in fact asked.
So what? He clarified it.
hp
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:01:10 +0200
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: Long script "just stops" sometime
Message-Id: <slrnia4erm.ack.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2010-09-26 23:06, Xho Jingleheimerschmidt <xhoster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Peter J. Holzer wrote:
>> In this case, if your guess is right, strace would show that the process
>> is currently waiting for a read on fd 0 to complete, and then lsof could
>> be used to find out which file fd 0 is (ok, so for fd 0 you may know
>> that it's the tty, for for (say) fd 43 you want a tool to look it up).
>
> Unfortunately, if you use strace "-p" option to attach to an
> already-running process, if often doesn't show you what call the process
> was waiting on at the time of the attachment.
I don't think that ever happened to me in many years of using strace.
Except with multithreaded processes, but for those strace doesn't work
reliably anyway (I don't understand why).
hp
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 08:58:21 -0500
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: Need Regex for phone number
Message-Id: <87pqvyhsw2.fsf@lifelogs.com>
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:00:59 -0700 (PDT) lotug <ernesto@ernestoreyes.com> wrote:
l> Yes, I was looking for regex that would identify the phone number in a
l> txt string regardless of how it was formatted. Different people input
l> phone numbers in different ways. Also, I have regex that identifies a
l> phone number in a string, but I'm looking for perl regex that will
l> identify this particular number within a text string.
l> 3108222400
l> (310) 822-2400
l> 1(310) 822-2400
l> 1-310-822-2400
(assuming you are planning to extend this to multiple phone numbers)
You may want to extract the phone number and convert it into an integer
(so the integer is your normalized representation). Then compare that
integer to the constant 3108222400. This strategy has the advantage
that storing many integers is easier and cheaper than the equivalent
strings and that integer comparison is faster. It will only work for
US-and-Canada-style phone numbers.
So here's one simple way to do it; it's not optimized.
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;
use Data::Dumper;
foreach my $input (<DATA>)
{
chomp $input;
my $original = $input;
$input =~ s/\D//g; # remove all non-digits
foreach my $sought (13108222400) # add more test numbers here
{
my $test = $input;
# prepend the 1 if necessary (so all empty or invalid strings are 1 too)
$test = "1$test" if length $input != length $sought;
print "$original produced normalized $test\n";
print "yes, $test == $sought\n" if $test == $sought;
}
}
__DATA__
3108222400
(310) 822-2400
1(310) 822-2400
1-310-822-2400
nonsense
3108222401
310822240
1310822240
1nonsense3108222400
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:13:08 -0400
From: Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Subject: Re: Need Regex for phone number
Message-Id: <86hbh9alt7.fsf@mithril.chromatico.net>
>>>>> "lotug" == lotug <ernesto@ernestoreyes.com> writes:
lotug> I need Regex to indentify 3108222400 phone number.
One of my favorite job interview questions, as an interviewer, goes
something like this:
We have a text-input field that we ask the user to type a
telephone number into. As part of data validation, we need to
know if it's a valid phone number and to identify the area
code. Please write some code to do that.
Now, yes, in the real world this is a hard problem, but I want to see
how the candidate thinks. Within 10 minutes after asking this question
and handing the candidate the whiteboard marker, I have a solid
impression.
(And some of that impression comes from the questions the candidate
asks, because the specification is vague. "US phone numbers only?" is a
very good question. "You must do this a lot - do you have a library
for it already?" is another very good question.)
It's almost embarrassing how many times I've had to stop a candidate
after 20 minutes of hinting and nudging and say, "Okay, there are
several ways to do this, but here's the regex solution" just so we can
move on with the interview - but at that point it's pretty much over
anyway.
Charlton
--
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cwilbur@chromatico.net
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:36:28 -0700
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: Need Regex for phone number
Message-Id: <9064a6p56rgbq8nsh42mm7cfb5lpp65dti@4ax.com>
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:13:08 -0400, Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net> wrote:
>>>>>> "lotug" == lotug <ernesto@ernestoreyes.com> writes:
>
> lotug> I need Regex to indentify 3108222400 phone number.
>
>One of my favorite job interview questions, as an interviewer, goes
>something like this:
>
> We have a text-input field that we ask the user to type a
> telephone number into. As part of data validation, we need to
> know if it's a valid phone number and to identify the area
> code. Please write some code to do that.
>
>Now, yes, in the real world this is a hard problem, but I want to see
>how the candidate thinks. Within 10 minutes after asking this question
>and handing the candidate the whiteboard marker, I have a solid
>impression.
>
>(And some of that impression comes from the questions the candidate
>asks, because the specification is vague. "US phone numbers only?" is a
>very good question. "You must do this a lot - do you have a library
>for it already?" is another very good question.)
>
>It's almost embarrassing how many times I've had to stop a candidate
>after 20 minutes of hinting and nudging and say, "Okay, there are
>several ways to do this, but here's the regex solution" just so we can
>move on with the interview - but at that point it's pretty much over
>anyway.
>
Given the simplicity of the Perl part, this would favor a phone
number expert.
-sln
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:30:37 -0700
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
To: Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Subject: Re: Need Regex for phone number
Message-Id: <86hbh9omoi.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>
>>>>> "Charlton" == Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net> writes:
Charlton> Within 10 minutes after asking this question
Charlton> and handing the candidate the whiteboard marker, I have a solid
Charlton> impression.
The whiteboard marker without the whiteboard? Is the interview over if
the candidate just starts sniffing it? :)
--
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:05:59 -0400
From: Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Subject: Re: Need Regex for phone number
Message-Id: <868w2lajd4.fsf@mithril.chromatico.net>
>>>>> "RLS" == Randal L Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> writes:
>>>>> "Charlton" == Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net> writes:
Charlton> Within 10 minutes after asking this question and handing
Charlton> the candidate the whiteboard marker, I have a solid
Charlton> impression.
RLS> The whiteboard marker without the whiteboard? Is the interview
RLS> over if the candidate just starts sniffing it? :)
No -- but it's a sign of a potential good fit with our group's culture.
Charlton
--
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cwilbur@chromatico.net
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:05:04 -0400
From: Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Subject: Re: Need Regex for phone number
Message-Id: <86d3rxajen.fsf@mithril.chromatico.net>
>>>>> "sln" == sln <sln@netherlands.com> writes:
>> One of my favorite job interview questions, as an interviewer,
>> goes something like this:
>>
>> We have a text-input field that we ask the user to type a
>> telephone number into. As part of data validation, we need to
>> know if it's a valid phone number and to identify the area code.
>> Please write some code to do that.
sln> Given the simplicity of the Perl part, this would favor a phone
sln> number expert.
You'd think that - but in practice, there are a lot of people who
present themselves as Perl experts convincingly enough to get past HR
people and generalist recruiters. It is quite simple; a candidate who's
got solid Perl skills can answer this in five minutes, and then you can
ask other questions like "How would you solve this if you couldn't
capture things from the m// operator?" Someone who's faking it will
bluster and bumble until the interviewer steps in to answer it.
Charlton
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cwilbur@chromatico.net
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:39:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: toy list processing problem: collect similar terms
Message-Id: <f82ec9f5-d455-4282-be1f-fffed9ced47d@13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 27, 9:34=C2=A0pm, John Bokma <j...@castleamber.com> wrote:
> Seebs <usenet-nos...@seebs.net> writes:
>
> fup set to poster
>
> > On 2010-09-28, John Bokma <j...@castleamber.com> wrote:
> >> Seebs <usenet-nos...@seebs.net> writes:
> >>> On 2010-09-26, J?rgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> It was livibetter who without any motivation or reasoning posted Pyt=
hon
> >>>> code in CLPM.
>
> >>> Not exactly; he posted it in a crossposted thread, which happened to =
include
> >>> CLPM and other groups, including comp.lang.python.
>
> >>> It is quite possible that he didn't know about the crossposting.
>
> >> Oh, he does. It has been Xah's game for years.
>
> > But did "livibetter" know about it? =C2=A0I wasn't defending Xah, who i=
s indeed
> > at the very least clueless and disruptive.
>
> Heh, he's not clueless, the problem is that he knows exactly what he's
> doing. And like most spammers, very hard to get rid off.
>
> > But I was sort of defending
> > the poster who was accused of posting Python code in CLPM, because that
> > poster may not have understood the game.
>
> Ah, clear. Well, the problem is somewhat also in CLPM where people
> somehow have to reply to messages like this :-(. And I am sure Xah
> laughes his ass off each time it happens.
Hi John Bokma,
can you stop this?
doesn't seems fruitful to keep on this.
if you don't like my posts, ignore them? i don't post in
comp.lang.python or comp.lang.perl.misc that often... maybe have done
so 5 times this year.
i visited your home page
http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2010/08/15/
and there are really a lot beautiful photos.
this isn't bribery or something like that. I've been annoyed by you,
of course, but it's not fruitful to keep going on this.
Best,
Xah =E2=88=91 xahlee.org =E2=98=84
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:13:27 -0500
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: toy list processing problem: collect similar terms
Message-Id: <87bp7hybw8.fsf@castleamber.com>
Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> writes:
> can you stop this?
Can you stop crossposting? And if there is really, really a need to
crosspost, can you please set the follow-up to?
> doesn't seems fruitful to keep on this.
>
> if you don't like my posts, ignore them? i don't post in
> comp.lang.python or comp.lang.perl.misc that often... maybe have done
> so 5 times this year.
Which is enough to disrupt those groups for days.
> i visited your home page
> http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2010/08/15/
> and there are really a lot beautiful photos.
Thanks Xah. Like I wrote, your site /does/ have good information, it's
so sad that you somehow think it's necessary to spam Usenet to get
visitors. Or maybe you've another reason, don't know. But it /is/ Usenet
abuse.
> this isn't bribery or something like that. I've been annoyed by you,
> of course, but it's not fruitful to keep going on this.
Well, you annoy me, I annoy you. It's in your hands to make it stop.
My advice is:
1) remove all the excessive swearing from your site. If you have a
point, you don't need it. Your argument(s) without the swearing
should speak for themselves
2) Stop abusing Usenet. Instead focus on writing more good stuff on
your site.
1) & 2) will keep me from linking to your site, ever. And I am sure I am
not alone in this.
--
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