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Perl-Users Digest           Tue, 16 Feb 2010     Volume: 11 Number: 2819

Today's topics:
        Extracting PDF document metadata in Perl? <anon40629@hotmail.com>
    Re: Extracting PDF document metadata in Perl? <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
    Re: How to get offset position from unpack()? <ben@morrow.me.uk>
        Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision:  tadmc@seesig.invalid
        readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginning? <patrickh@gmail.com>
    Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginnin <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
    Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginnin <patrickh@gmail.com>
    Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginnin <patrickh@gmail.com>
    Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginnin <someone@example.com>
    Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginnin <uri@StemSystems.com>
    Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginnin <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim>
        use strict... <robin1@cnsp.com>
    Re: use strict... (Randal L. Schwartz)
    Re: use strict... <xemoth@gmail.com>
    Re: use strict... <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid>
    Re: use strict... <patrickh@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:17:47 -0800
From: "Mark G." <anon40629@hotmail.com>
Subject: Extracting PDF document metadata in Perl?
Message-Id: <zo6dnef9E7y7eeTWnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@posted.palinacquisition>

Good afternoon.

I am using CAM::PDF to extract information from a large library of
PDF files. I cannot determine how to extract standard metadata
(author, title, etc.) Is it possible to do this with CAM::PDF? If not,
can anyone suggest another Perl package that I can use to do this?

Thank you
-Mark




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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:41:06 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: Extracting PDF document metadata in Perl?
Message-Id: <slrnhnjtmn.pp0.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>

Mark G. <anon40629@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Good afternoon.


Please do not multipost, crosspost instead.

    http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/unice.htm#xpost


-- 
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.liamg\100cm.j.dat/"


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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:48:19 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: How to get offset position from unpack()?
Message-Id: <jhoo47-srn.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>


Quoth "jl_post@hotmail.com" <jl_post@hotmail.com>:
> Hi,
> 
>    The unpack() function is very, very useful for me, as I regularly
> do a lot of unpacking of non-Perl-created data strings to see what
> information they hold.  If I didn't have the use of the unpack()
> function, certain tasks would be much more difficult.
> 
>    However, there's something I want to do with unpack() that I
> haven't figured out how to do:  I'd like to unpack part of a string,
> but keep track of where the unpacking ended, so I can resume unpacking
> the string (at a later time) where I left off.

    ~% perl -E'my $x = "aaa"; say for unpack "a2.", $x'
    aa
    2
    ~%

Ben



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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:13:41 -0600
From: tadmc@seesig.invalid
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.9 $)
Message-Id: <OqudnYlyh8sozufWnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@giganews.com>

Outline
   Before posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Must
       - Check the Perl Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
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      Really Really Should
       - Lurk for a while before posting
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      If You Like
       - Check Other Resources
   Posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Is there a better place to ask your question?
       - Question should be about Perl, not about the application area
      How to participate (post) in the clpmisc community
       - Carefully choose the contents of your Subject header
       - Use an effective followup style
       - Speak Perl rather than English, when possible
       - Ask perl to help you
       - Do not re-type Perl code
       - Provide enough information
       - Do not provide too much information
       - Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
      Social faux pas to avoid
       - Asking a Frequently Asked Question
       - Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
       - Asking for emailed answers
       - Beware of saying "doesn't work"
       - Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
      Be extra cautious when you get upset
       - Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
       - Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
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-- 
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.liamg\100cm.j.dat/"


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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:26:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "Patrick H." <patrickh@gmail.com>
Subject: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginning?
Message-Id: <0298ad8c-a26c-4e9f-8d40-60dc95f4a624@h2g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>

Hi, I am toying around with the directory operations chapter of
"Learning Perl" and ran into a bit of a snag.

I am trying to open a directory, output all the -f files to a @files
array and all the -d files to a @folders array. The problem is it
seems to only work for the first instance of readdir I use; they both
work individually when I comment the other out, but when I have them
both only the first array is populated. Do I need to closedir and then
opendir again, or is there a way for me to reset the cursor (if that
is even the right terminology)?

Below is my code, and advice would be appreciated.

Patrick H.


#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;

# folder to scan
my $folder = 'c:/';

# open folder
opendir C_DRIVE, $folder or die "problem reading $folder: $!";

my @files = grep { -f "$folder/$_" } readdir(C_DRIVE);      # all
files
my @folders = grep { -d "$folder/$_" } readdir(C_DRIVE);    # all
folders

# close folder
closedir C_DRIVE;

# test results
print "your files: @files\n";
print "your folders: @folders\n";




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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:42:40 -0800
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginning?
Message-Id: <tjbkn5l8kh31l7av16l6ptg8se7bu7dkrs@4ax.com>

"Patrick H." <patrickh@gmail.com> wrote:
>I am trying to open a directory, output all the -f files to a @files
>array and all the -d files to a @folders array. The problem is it
>seems to only work for the first instance of readdir I use; they both
>work individually when I comment the other out, but when I have them
>both only the first array is populated. Do I need to closedir and then
>opendir again, or is there a way for me to reset the cursor (if that
>is even the right terminology)?

You could try seek(). Although it is documented only for filehandles,
not directory handles. it just might work on directory handles, too.

>Below is my code, and advice would be appreciated.
>
[...]
># open folder
>opendir C_DRIVE, $folder or die "problem reading $folder: $!";
>
>my @files = grep { -f "$folder/$_" } readdir(C_DRIVE);      # all
>files
>my @folders = grep { -d "$folder/$_" } readdir(C_DRIVE);    # all
>folders

However a better approach would be to loop through all the files in a
single pass and assign them to @files or @folders as you read each
directory entry.

<sketch only, not actual code>

	while (my $direntry = readdir (C_DRIVE))
		if (-f $direntry) {push @files, $direntry};
		if (-d $direntry) {push @folders, $direntry}
	}


Or read then all into a one array, duplicate that array, and then filter

	@folders = @files = readdir(...);
	@folders = grep (-d ...., @folders);
	@files = grep (-f ...., @files);

jue
>
># close folder
>closedir C_DRIVE;
>
># test results
>print "your files: @files\n";
>print "your folders: @folders\n";
>


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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:43:55 -0800 (PST)
From: "Patrick H." <patrickh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginning?
Message-Id: <91e5f52b-83f1-4ad6-a3a4-0cc941c97943@a5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>

On Feb 15, 11:26=A0pm, "Patrick H." <patri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I am toying around with the directory operations chapter of
> "Learning Perl" and ran into a bit of a snag.
>
> I am trying to open a directory, output all the -f files to a @files
> array and all the -d files to a @folders array. The problem is it
> seems to only work for the first instance of readdir I use; they both
> work individually when I comment the other out, but when I have them
> both only the first array is populated. Do I need to closedir and then
> opendir again, or is there a way for me to reset the cursor (if that
> is even the right terminology)?
>
> Below is my code, and advice would be appreciated.
>
> Patrick H.
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> use strict;
>
> # folder to scan
> my $folder =3D 'c:/';
>
> # open folder
> opendir C_DRIVE, $folder or die "problem reading $folder: $!";
>
> my @files =3D grep { -f "$folder/$_" } readdir(C_DRIVE); =A0 =A0 =A0# all
> files
> my @folders =3D grep { -d "$folder/$_" } readdir(C_DRIVE); =A0 =A0# all
> folders
>
> # close folder
> closedir C_DRIVE;
>
> # test results
> print "your files: @files\n";
> print "your folders: @folders\n";

With the risk of looking like I'm talking to myself, I came up with a
different way of doing it through just one readdir - figured I would
post what my solution ended up being.

-Patrick

# scope variables
my (@files,@folders);

# read directory
while (my $name =3D readdir C_DRIVE) {
    push @files, $name if -f "$folder/$name";
    push @folders, $name if -d "$folder/$name";
}



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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:48:25 -0800 (PST)
From: "Patrick H." <patrickh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginning?
Message-Id: <dc23df48-8840-40f4-b142-315b6702ed2f@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>

On Feb 15, 11:42=A0pm, J=FCrgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> However a better approach would be to loop through all the files in a
> single pass and assign them to @files or @folders as you read each
> directory entry.
>
> <sketch only, not actual code>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 while (my $direntry =3D readdir (C_DRIVE))
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 if (-f $direntry) {push @files, $direntry=
};
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 if (-d $direntry) {push @folders, $dirent=
ry}
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 }


Jue, thank you very much for the input. I came up with a similar
approach before I read your post. Always glad to have someone else's
opinion confirm what I was thinking :) .

Thanks,
Patrick




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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:35:09 -0800
From: "John W. Krahn" <someone@example.com>
Subject: Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginning?
Message-Id: <OUren.96528$1m3.56209@newsfe11.iad>

Patrick H. wrote:
> Hi, I am toying around with the directory operations chapter of
> "Learning Perl" and ran into a bit of a snag.
> 
> I am trying to open a directory, output all the -f files to a @files
> array and all the -d files to a @folders array. The problem is it
> seems to only work for the first instance of readdir I use; they both
> work individually when I comment the other out, but when I have them
> both only the first array is populated. Do I need to closedir and then
> opendir again, or is there a way for me to reset the cursor (if that
> is even the right terminology)?

perldoc -f rewinddir


> Below is my code, and advice would be appreciated.
> 
> Patrick H.
> 
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> use strict;
> 
> # folder to scan
> my $folder = 'c:/';
> 
> # open folder
> opendir C_DRIVE, $folder or die "problem reading $folder: $!";
> 
> my @files = grep { -f "$folder/$_" } readdir(C_DRIVE);      # all
> files
> my @folders = grep { -d "$folder/$_" } readdir(C_DRIVE);    # all
> folders

my ( @files, @folders );
while ( my $file = readdir C_DRIVE ) {
     push @files   if -f "$folder/$file";
     push @folders if -d "$folder/$file";
     }


> # close folder
> closedir C_DRIVE;
> 
> # test results
> print "your files: @files\n";
> print "your folders: @folders\n";



John
-- 
The programmer is fighting against the two most
destructive forces in the universe: entropy and
human stupidity.               -- Damian Conway


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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:48:23 -0500
From: "Uri Guttman" <uri@StemSystems.com>
Subject: Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginning?
Message-Id: <87iq9xk4e0.fsf@quad.sysarch.com>

>>>>> "JWK" == John W Krahn <someone@example.com> writes:

  JWK> Patrick H. wrote:
  >> Hi, I am toying around with the directory operations chapter of
  >> "Learning Perl" and ran into a bit of a snag.
  >> 
  >> I am trying to open a directory, output all the -f files to a @files
  >> array and all the -d files to a @folders array. The problem is it
  >> seems to only work for the first instance of readdir I use; they both
  >> work individually when I comment the other out, but when I have them
  >> both only the first array is populated. Do I need to closedir and then
  >> opendir again, or is there a way for me to reset the cursor (if that
  >> is even the right terminology)?

  JWK> perldoc -f rewinddir

i recalled that was in there. but it isn't needed as you note below

  JWK> my ( @files, @folders );
  JWK> while ( my $file = readdir C_DRIVE ) {
  JWK>     push @files   if -f "$folder/$file";
  JWK>     push @folders if -d "$folder/$file";
  JWK>     }

i hate all the duplicate pushes. try this on for size (untested :):

use File::Slurp ;
push( @{ -d "$folder/$_" ? \@folders : \@files }, $_ ) for read_dir( 'C:' );

that assumes if it ain't a dir, it is a file.

uri

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:36:33 +0000
From: bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim>
Subject: Re: readdir: is there a way to reset cursor to beginning?
Message-Id: <_a-dnV7iToW_-ufWnZ2dnUVZ8tti4p2d@brightview.co.uk>

Uri Guttman wrote:
>>>>>> "JWK" == John W Krahn <someone@example.com> writes:
> 
>   JWK> Patrick H. wrote:
>   >> Hi, I am toying around with the directory operations chapter of
>   >> "Learning Perl" and ran into a bit of a snag.
>   >> 
>   >> I am trying to open a directory, output all the -f files to a @files
>   >> array and all the -d files to a @folders array. The problem is it
>   >> seems to only work for the first instance of readdir I use; they both
>   >> work individually when I comment the other out, but when I have them
>   >> both only the first array is populated. Do I need to closedir and then
>   >> opendir again, or is there a way for me to reset the cursor (if that
>   >> is even the right terminology)?
> 
>   JWK> perldoc -f rewinddir
> 
> i recalled that was in there. but it isn't needed as you note below
> 
>   JWK> my ( @files, @folders );
>   JWK> while ( my $file = readdir C_DRIVE ) {
>   JWK>     push @files   if -f "$folder/$file";
>   JWK>     push @folders if -d "$folder/$file";
>   JWK>     }
> 
> i hate all the duplicate pushes. try this on for size (untested :):
> 
> use File::Slurp ;
> push( @{ -d "$folder/$_" ? \@folders : \@files }, $_ ) for read_dir( 'C:' );


Yikes. That's a triumph of ingenuity over clarity IMHO.

   BugBear


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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:06:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Robin <robin1@cnsp.com>
Subject: use strict...
Message-Id: <4e6b74e3-fcc0-4d5e-9f61-4cac5e1bdcc1@f8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>

I know this is a pretty stupid question, maybe, but is it better to
use strict? I have never gotten a concise answer to this question
because there reallty isn't any docs on it.
thanks,
-ro9bin


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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:33:44 -0800
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
To: Robin <robin1@cnsp.com>
Subject: Re: use strict...
Message-Id: <86iq9xhn1j.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Robin" == Robin  <robin1@cnsp.com> writes:

Robin> I know this is a pretty stupid question, maybe, but is it better to
Robin> use strict? I have never gotten a concise answer to this question
Robin> because there reallty isn't any docs on it.

    % perldoc strict

    NAME
        strict - Perl pragma to restrict unsafe constructs

    SYNOPSIS
            use strict;

            use strict "vars";
            use strict "refs";
            use strict "subs";

            use strict;
            no strict "vars";

    DESCRIPTION

    [...]

You have a strange meaning of "isn't any".  Care to elaborate?

print "Just another Perl hacker,"; # the original

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:45:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Owen <xemoth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: use strict...
Message-Id: <73c073cf-be53-4de8-8f09-20e1dcabf811@b7g2000pro.googlegroups.com>

On Feb 16, 2:06=A0pm, Robin <rob...@cnsp.com> wrote:
> I know this is a pretty stupid question, maybe, but is it better to
> use strict? I have never gotten a concise answer to this question
> because there reallty isn't any docs on it.
> thanks,
> -ro9bin

There are a number of good reasons to use strict, however, in my case
I use it to help in de-bugging and all other side benefits are a
bonus.

90% of my errors are misspelt variables, IE, somwhere you have

# my $blah;

and later you use $blaj by mistake, it will tell you in its own
fashion that $blaj is perhaps a mistake.

Try this program to get get a message that would not be generated if
'use strict' was not used;

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;

my $blah;

$blaj =3D2;

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

You should also 'use warnings' as well. They all help




Owen


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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:58:22 +0000
From: RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid>
Subject: Re: use strict...
Message-Id: <4b7a6c42$0$2481$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>

On 16/02/2010 03:06, Robin wrote:
> I know this is a pretty stupid question, maybe, but is it better to
> use strict?

Yes. I try to make all my (multi-line) programs start

#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;

> I have never gotten a concise answer to this question
> because there reallty isn't any docs on it.

The subject is discussed in this newsgroup surprisingly often.

There seems to be a strong consensus for strict and warnings. There is a 
respected minority (possibly just one) who argue that `-w` is better 
than `use warnings`. Unless you have read and understood the discussion 
(and how it applies to your current project) you should 'use warnings'.


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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:14:56 -0800 (PST)
From: "Patrick H." <patrickh@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: use strict...
Message-Id: <4f04fe05-2ee8-4a79-9ae1-06b520cff31b@z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>

On Feb 15, 9:06=A0pm, Robin <rob...@cnsp.com> wrote:
> I know this is a pretty stupid question, maybe, but is it better to
> use strict?

I like it because it makes me be constantly aware of scope since I
have to consciously define everything somewhere. That can only help as
your program code gets longer.

Patrick


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