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Today's topics:
Re: converting from 'use' to 'require' (Seymour J.)
Re: converting from 'use' to 'require' (Seymour J.)
perl compiler to exe <robin1@cnsp.com>
Re: perl compiler to exe <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: significant figures (Seymour J.)
some perl programs I wrote <robin1@cnsp.com>
Re: some perl programs I wrote <uri@StemSystems.com>
Re: some perl programs I wrote <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: synchronistaion of STDIN with redirected STDOUT <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: synchronistaion of STDIN with redirected STDOUT <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: synchronistaion of STDIN with redirected STDOUT <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: synchronistaion of STDIN with redirected STDOUT <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: Web recognition <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Re: Web recognition <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: Web recognition <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: Web recognition <smallpond@juno.com>
Re: Web recognition <sysadmin@example.com>
Re: Web recognition sln@netherlands.com
Re: Web recognition <kst-u@mib.org>
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:11:36 -0500
From: Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Subject: Re: converting from 'use' to 'require'
Message-Id: <4b45eb98$4$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>
In <T_ydnVPLCrNBT9jWnZ2dnUVZ8lqdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, on 01/07/2010
at 12:25 PM, bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> said:
>No; check what require does, and check what "use" does.
Yes; check what eval does. What the OP requested is possible; whether it
is a good idea is open to discussion.
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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:44:44 -0500
From: Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Subject: Re: converting from 'use' to 'require'
Message-Id: <4b4639ac$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>
In <VsmdnQX2_MhYkNvWnZ2dnUVZ8o1i4p2d@brightview.co.uk>, on 01/07/2010
at 04:37 PM, bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> said:
>How does changing from "use" to "require" speed anything up
>(unless import is a lot slower than I thought)
By using eval inside of an if you can cause the require to be
conditionally executed.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:02:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Robin <robin1@cnsp.com>
Subject: perl compiler to exe
Message-Id: <390ff4b2-adf1-496a-a485-3a2ed1ca56ce@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
Does anyone know of a good program I can use to change perl programs
to exe's that is free. I know there is the activestate one is good,
but too expensive.
Thanks and best wishes,
-Robin
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:26:57 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: perl compiler to exe
Message-Id: <1k4327-9dn.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth Robin <robin1@cnsp.com>:
> Does anyone know of a good program I can use to change perl programs
> to exe's that is free. I know there is the activestate one is good,
> but too expensive.
pp, part of PAR::Packer.
Ben
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:26:42 -0500
From: Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Subject: Re: significant figures
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In <866376i2g4.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>, on 01/13/2010
at 05:01 AM, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) said:
>I believe Awk also did this just fine. Does Rexx predate Awk?
Wiki says that AWK is from the 1970's, which is before the general
availability of Rexx.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:00:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Robin <robin1@cnsp.com>
Subject: some perl programs I wrote
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check out some of my perl programs,
http://offlame.memebot.com
let me know if you like them.... :-)
Thanks
-robin
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:31:06 -0500
From: "Uri Guttman" <uri@StemSystems.com>
Subject: Re: some perl programs I wrote
Message-Id: <87iqb5nicl.fsf@quad.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "R" == Robin <robin1@cnsp.com> writes:
R> check out some of my perl programs,
R> http://offlame.memebot.com
you have a lot of perl and programming to learn still.
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
my $npflag = 0;
my $n;
my @z;
you don't use @z anywhere
print "Prime number generator starting at 3 and going up....\n";
foreach my $q (4 .. 10000) {
$npflag = 0;
foreach my $m (1 .. $q) {
you only need to test factors up to the square root of the goal. this is
a very well known optimization
next if $m == 1;
next if $m == $q;
your inner loop already is up to $q so why do you need to test for this
again? if you really wanted this make the inner loop go to $q -1
$_ = "$q" / "$m";
that is horrible in so many ways. why did you put "" around the
variables? especially since you then do a math operation on them. why
did you assign the result to $_ instead of a named variable?
if ($_ !~ /\./) {
did you know you could use named variables with the !~ operator? and
checking if a number has a fractional part with a regex is very
clunky. it is better to stick to pure math ops like int(), * and /.
$npflag = 1;
now, you know this number isn't a prime. why do you continue to test it
for being a prime?
}
}
if (! $npflag) {
ever heard of unless?
print "We have found prime : $q\n";
sleep 1;
so when you learn about all the corrections i said and understand what
they mean and don't do any of them again, post more code here. keep on
trying to get better.
uri
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:58:56 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: some perl programs I wrote
Message-Id: <slrnhktqn2.ai4.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2010-01-14 09:31, Uri Guttman <uri@StemSystems.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "R" == Robin <robin1@cnsp.com> writes:
>
> R> check out some of my perl programs,
> R> http://offlame.memebot.com
>
> you have a lot of perl and programming to learn still.
[...]
> $_ = "$q" / "$m";
>
> that is horrible in so many ways. why did you put "" around the
> variables? especially since you then do a math operation on them. why
> did you assign the result to $_ instead of a named variable?
>
> if ($_ !~ /\./) {
>
> did you know you could use named variables with the !~ operator? and
> checking if a number has a fractional part with a regex is very
> clunky. it is better to stick to pure math ops like int(), * and /.
And especially %.
hp
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:45:55 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: synchronistaion of STDIN with redirected STDOUT
Message-Id: <slrnhkrn54.p55.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2010-01-13 13:41, Dilbert <dilbert1999@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 13 jan, 13:29, "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usen...@hjp.at> wrote:
>> Maybe a function "flush that stream before reading from this stream". Or
>> - even more generic - just a hook which is called for certain ops.
>
> Adding a hook which is called for certain ops is the way I want to go.
>
>> So you could do something like
>>
>> $in->add_hook(pre_read => sub { $out->flush });
>
> Can this hook also be added to a simple
> my $answer = <STDIN>;
>
> Maybe the following ?
> use IO::Handle;
> STDIN->add_hook(pre_read => sub { STDOUT->flush });
>
> ...but that gave me an error:
> Can't locate object method "add_hook" via package "IO::Handle"
This was an idea how such a feature could look like in a future version
of perl. It doesn't currently exist (as far as I know).
I think the simplest solution for you is to just set $|. Since you
you send the output to the screen anyway, this is unlikely to degrade
performance noticeably.
hp
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:19:52 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: synchronistaion of STDIN with redirected STDOUT
Message-Id: <8jb227-57h.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>:
> On 2010-01-13 09:40, Dilbert <dilbert1999@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What I would like to achieve is to teach perlio *not* to forget this
> > behaviour in this particular case when STDOUT is re-opened to a pipe
> > that tee's back to the terminal.
>
> Yes, I understood that. But the behaviour you want is *not* allowed by
> the C standard. Of course the C standard is only marginally relevant to
> perl, so perl could implement a more intelligent flushing scheme.
> However, it cannot detect what the program on the other end of the pipe
> (tee in this case) does, so it either needs to be a better heuristic
> (which may be difficult because "better" includes "doesn't break
> existing programs") or it needs to be user/programmer-controllable.
> Maybe a function "flush that stream before reading from this stream". Or
> - even more generic - just a hook which is called for certain ops. So
> you could do something like
>
> $in->add_hook(pre_read => sub { $out->flush });
This is called a 'PerlIO layer'. Writing something like this should be
trivial with PerlIO::via, at least once you've worked out how to pass
the handle that should be flushed (binmode only accepts a string), and
not terribly difficult from XS using the real API.
Ben
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:31:22 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: synchronistaion of STDIN with redirected STDOUT
Message-Id: <slrnhktlir.71c.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2010-01-14 02:19, Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk> wrote:
> Quoth "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>:
>> Maybe a function "flush that stream before reading from this stream". Or
>> - even more generic - just a hook which is called for certain ops. So
>> you could do something like
>>
>> $in->add_hook(pre_read => sub { $out->flush });
>
> This is called a 'PerlIO layer'.
Duh! You are right of course. I haven't thought of that. (I did think of
subclassing IO::Handle, but I couldn't figure out how to make STDOUT use
the new class).
hp
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:25:41 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: synchronistaion of STDIN with redirected STDOUT
Message-Id: <lh4327-9dn.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>:
> On 2010-01-14 02:19, Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk> wrote:
> > Quoth "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>:
> >> Maybe a function "flush that stream before reading from this stream". Or
> >> - even more generic - just a hook which is called for certain ops. So
> >> you could do something like
> >>
> >> $in->add_hook(pre_read => sub { $out->flush });
> >
> > This is called a 'PerlIO layer'.
>
> Duh! You are right of course. I haven't thought of that. (I did think of
> subclassing IO::Handle, but I couldn't figure out how to make STDOUT use
> the new class).
IO::Handle is a disgusting hack. I expect it could be done, but it
wouldn't be easy: an IO::Handle is a blessed glob containing a tied
filehandle, so you would have to tie *main::STDOUT{IO} and then either
(re)bless *main::STDOUT or assign it into a new glob which could be
blessed.
You could also, of course, tie STDOUT directly. I have never really
understood why it appears to have been necessary for Perl to end up with
three different systems for attaching magic to filehandles, none of
which quite works right.
Ben
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:30:05 -0600
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: Web recognition
Message-Id: <87skaaxeky.fsf@lifelogs.com>
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:04:53 -0800 (PST) Nathan <nathanabu@gmail.com> wrote:
N> Its not really related to code, and more related to an algorithem.
N> (which will be implemented in perl)
N> my problem is as follows, given a website, for example, http://www.nokia.com,
N> how can I really determine whether its the manufacturer site (official
N> nokia's site...) or not? (for example, htttp://www.nokia-fans.com is
N> not, assuming there is something like that...).
N> The real problem arises when the manufacturer name does NOT
N> corresponds the site name, for example, manufactuere name : YTXT , and
N> website http://www.XXX.co.uk
None of the following are exact but they may be useful to you, depending
on your purpose.
You can look at search engine rankings. Google's ranking may be
relevant, since it qualifies how well-liked the site is and tries to
rank "manufacturer's" websites higher on the manufacturer's keyword.
You could also crawl the site and run a statistical spam filter against
it. Compare the results to known legitimate sites and known unofficial
sites in the same language.
Ted
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:49:35 -0800
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Web recognition
Message-Id: <1r1sk5phpp3804ojd1klppg2cc16pvvt6i@4ax.com>
Nathan <nathanabu@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 13, 3:36 pm, Jürgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Nathan <nathan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Its not really related to code, and more related to an algorithem.
>> >(which will be implemented in perl)
>> >my problem is as follows, given a website, for example,http://www.nokia.com,
>> >how can I really determine whether its the manufacturer site (official
>> >nokia's site...) or not? (for example, htttp://www.nokia-fans.comis
>> >not, assuming there is something like that...).
>>
>> >The real problem arises when the manufacturer name does NOT
>> >corresponds the site name, for example, manufactuere name : YTXT , and
>> >websitehttp://www.XXX.co.uk
>>
>> How do _you_ define "real manufacturer web site"? Manufacturer of what?
>> Maybe Nokia-fans is a legitimate business, too, and has created and is
>> marketing their own products, maybe related to Nokia, maybe not. Then
>> which one is the correct "manufacturer" web site? Now how do _you_
>> know?
>
>first of all, thanks you all for replying.
>secondly, I consider a web site as a manufacturer website if and only
>if its the official site.
>you folks already gave some points which I would go and try, of course
>im not looking for 100% accuracy, but 90-95% would meet my
>expectations.
Ok, let me put it more bluntly: how is the program supposed to know,
that a given item has been manufactured by Nokia and not by Nokia-fans?
jue
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:37:56 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: Web recognition
Message-Id: <slrnhks88l.4b5.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2010-01-13 17:49, Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Nathan <nathanabu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Jan 13, 3:36 pm, Jürgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Nathan <nathan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Its not really related to code, and more related to an algorithem.
>>> >(which will be implemented in perl) my problem is as follows,
>>> >given a website, for example,http://www.nokia.com, how can I really
>>> >determine whether its the manufacturer site (official nokia's
>>> >site...) or not? (for example, htttp://www.nokia-fans.com is not,
>>> >assuming there is something like that...).
>>>
>>> >The real problem arises when the manufacturer name does NOT
>>> >corresponds the site name, for example, manufactuere name : YTXT ,
>>> >and websitehttp://www.XXX.co.uk
>>>
>>> How do _you_ define "real manufacturer web site"? Manufacturer of what?
>>> Maybe Nokia-fans is a legitimate business, too, and has created and is
>>> marketing their own products, maybe related to Nokia, maybe not. Then
>>> which one is the correct "manufacturer" web site? Now how do _you_
>>> know?
>>
>>first of all, thanks you all for replying.
>>secondly, I consider a web site as a manufacturer website if and only
>>if its the official site.
>>you folks already gave some points which I would go and try, of course
>>im not looking for 100% accuracy, but 90-95% would meet my
>>expectations.
>
> Ok, let me put it more bluntly: how is the program supposed to know,
> that a given item has been manufactured by Nokia and not by Nokia-fans?
And for the sake of the argument assume that there is a company called
"Nokia Fans" which produces fans, turbines and propellers.
hp
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:07:40 -0800 (PST)
From: smallpond <smallpond@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Web recognition
Message-Id: <f9ae7d96-098f-4d93-97c5-49c76ec67cbf@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
On Jan 13, 2:37=A0pm, "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usen...@hjp.at> wrote:
> On 2010-01-13 17:49, J rgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Nathan <nathan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>On Jan 13, 3:36 pm, J rgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Nathan <nathan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >Its not really related to code, and more related to an algorithem.
> >>> >(which will be implemented in perl) my problem is as follows,
> >>> >given a website, for example,http://www.nokia.com, how can I really
> >>> >determine whether its the manufacturer site (official nokia's
> >>> >site...) or not? (for example, htttp://www.nokia-fans.comis not,
> >>> >assuming there is something like that...).
>
> >>> >The real problem arises when the manufacturer name does NOT
> >>> >corresponds the site name, for example, manufactuere name : YTXT ,
> >>> >and websitehttp://www.XXX.co.uk
>
> >>> How do _you_ define "real manufacturer web site"? Manufacturer of wha=
t?
> >>> Maybe Nokia-fans is a legitimate business, too, and has created and i=
s
> >>> marketing their own products, maybe related to Nokia, maybe not. Then
> >>> which one is the correct "manufacturer" web site? Now how do _you_
> >>> know?
>
> >>first of all, thanks you all for replying.
> >>secondly, I consider a web site as a manufacturer website if and only
> >>if its the official site.
> >>you folks already gave some points which I would go and try, of course
> >>im not looking for 100% accuracy, but 90-95% would meet my
> >>expectations.
>
> > Ok, let me put it more bluntly: how is the program supposed to know,
> > that a given item has been manufactured by Nokia and not by Nokia-fans?
>
> And for the sake of the argument assume that there is a company called
> "Nokia Fans" which produces fans, turbines and propellers.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hp
Also, there are supporters of that company called Nokia Fan fans
who sell mugs with the Nokia Fan Fan logo from their official website
which is hosted by eBay.
I think the best bet is to look up the site in one of the directories
like dir.yahoo.com. If the site domain matches the company listing
then you have it. For example if you look up MySQL it will give you
a link to www.sun.com.
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:22:23 -0800
From: Wanna-Be Sys Admin <sysadmin@example.com>
Subject: Re: Web recognition
Message-Id: <QAs3n.5677$ap2.5391@newsfe18.iad>
Nathan wrote:
> Hello,
> Its not really related to code, and more related to an algorithem.
> (which will be implemented in perl)
> my problem is as follows, given a website, for example,
> http://www.nokia.com, how can I really determine whether its the
> manufacturer site (official nokia's site...) or not? (for example,
> htttp://www.nokia-fans.com is not, assuming there is something like
> that...).
>
> The real problem arises when the manufacturer name does NOT
> corresponds the site name, for example, manufactuere name : YTXT , and
> website http://www.XXX.co.uk
>
> any idea?
There's no way to do this automatically, without verifying it manually
first, it's got to be determined by someone, at some point. This is
whatsoever not a Perl question.
--
Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:07:20 -0800
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: Web recognition
Message-Id: <i7nsk55s06b3cq02m1osqdbbafg3m1aho9@4ax.com>
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:49:54 -0800 (PST), Nathan <nathanabu@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 13, 3:36 pm, Jürgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Nathan <nathan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Its not really related to code, and more related to an algorithem.
>> >(which will be implemented in perl)
>> >my problem is as follows, given a website, for example,http://www.nokia.com,
>> >how can I really determine whether its the manufacturer site (official
>> >nokia's site...) or not? (for example, htttp://www.nokia-fans.comis
>> >not, assuming there is something like that...).
>>
>> >The real problem arises when the manufacturer name does NOT
>> >corresponds the site name, for example, manufactuere name : YTXT , and
>> >websitehttp://www.XXX.co.uk
>>
>> How do _you_ define "real manufacturer web site"? Manufacturer of what?
>> Maybe Nokia-fans is a legitimate business, too, and has created and is
>> marketing their own products, maybe related to Nokia, maybe not. Then
>> which one is the correct "manufacturer" web site? Now how do _you_
>> know?
>>
>> jue
>
>first of all, thanks you all for replying.
>secondly, I consider a web site as a manufacturer website if and only
>if its the official site.
>you folks already gave some points which I would go and try, of course
>im not looking for 100% accuracy, but 90-95% would meet my
>expectations.
I think what you need is to hack domain registrar' database and
do a heuristic comparison of corporate addresses gleaned from info
gathered from registered stock symbols of known companys.
Create your own database set to do weekly updates.
Somewhere in between all this, as the reliability approaches %100
(never reaching it, of course), your custom database will shrink.
This is using the if/if/if/if..., think outside the box, method.
Another absolute %99.99 method, is to be some resource compactor
like Bill Gates.
-sln
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:31:18 -0800
From: Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Subject: Re: Web recognition
Message-Id: <lniqb5f8hl.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org>
Nathan <nathanabu@gmail.com> writes:
> Its not really related to code, and more related to an algorithem.
> (which will be implemented in perl) my problem is as follows, given
> a website, for example, http://www.nokia.com, how can I really
> determine whether its the manufacturer site (official nokia's
> site...) or not?
[...]
Yeah, that's us. 8-)}
--
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Nokia
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Administrivia:
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#For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
#perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
#sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
#answer them even if I did know the answer.
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