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Today's topics:
Re: Exiting threads via signal <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
How to get a program output into array <txbarth@web.de>
Re: How to get a program output into array <txbarth@web.de>
Re: How to get a program output into array sharma__r@hotmail.com
Re: How to get a program output into array <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: How to get a program output into array <uri@StemSystems.com>
How to identify double bytes language? <sqlcamel@yahoo.com.hk>
Re: How to identify double bytes language? <rvtol+usenet@xs4all.nl>
Re: How to identify double bytes language? <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: How to identify double bytes language? <rvtol+usenet@xs4all.nl>
how to install WWW::Mechanize using yum <bennett@peacefire.org>
Re: how to install WWW::Mechanize using yum <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: how to install WWW::Mechanize using yum <jmg3000@gmail.com>
Re: how to install WWW::Mechanize using yum <m@rtij.nl.invlalid>
mingw Perl: no long doubles? <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org>
Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: tadmc@seesig.invalid
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:13:56 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: Exiting threads via signal
Message-Id: <slrnhfpg1s.jcp.tadmc@tadbox.sbcglobal.net>
Wanna-Be Sys Admin <sysadmin@example.com> wrote:
> sln@netherlands.com wrote:
> Are you replying to yourself
It does that all the time.
Please do not feed the troll.
--
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:00:54 +0100
From: Thomas Barth <txbarth@web.de>
Subject: How to get a program output into array
Message-Id: <7m573vF3f5a1hU1@mid.individual.net>
Hi,
any Idea how to get the output of this command into an array? The output
is still printed to the screen. The array @soxin keeps empty.
open(SOXIN, "sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/$basename.vox stat |");
my @soxin = <SOXIN>;
close(SOXIN);
Thomas B
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:31:14 +0100
From: Thomas Barth <txbarth@web.de>
Subject: Re: How to get a program output into array
Message-Id: <7m58srF3gh5eoU1@mid.individual.net>
Thomas Barth schrieb:
> Hi,
> any Idea how to get the output of this command into an array? The output
> is still printed to the screen. The array @soxin keeps empty.
>
> open(SOXIN, "sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/$basename.vox stat |");
> my @soxin = <SOXIN>;
> close(SOXIN);
>
Hi,
its cleared, I got it with the command
open(SOXIN, "sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/$basename.vox stat 2>&1 |");
Thomas B
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:35:43 -0800 (PST)
From: sharma__r@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: How to get a program output into array
Message-Id: <a55b0307-4610-4275-b973-89830557fedb@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 13, 7:31=A0pm, Thomas Barth <txba...@web.de> wrote:
> Thomas Barth schrieb:
>
> > Hi,
> > any Idea how to get the output of this command into an array? The outpu=
t
> > is still printed to the screen. The array @soxin keeps empty.
>
> > =A0 =A0 open(SOXIN, "sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/$basename.vox stat=
|");
> > =A0 =A0 my @soxin =3D <SOXIN>;
> > =A0 =A0 close(SOXIN);
>
> Hi,
> its cleared, I got it with the command
> open(SOXIN, "sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/$basename.vox stat 2>&1 |");
>
> Thomas B
Or this:
my @soxin =3D split /\n/, qx/ sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/
$basename.vox stat /;
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:34:26 -0800
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: How to get a program output into array
Message-Id: <ei9rf59mjsebhftu1jugnmgo116lfp68ul@4ax.com>
Thomas Barth <txbarth@web.de> wrote:
>Hi,
>any Idea how to get the output of this command into an array? The output
>is still printed to the screen. The array @soxin keeps empty.
>
> open(SOXIN, "sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/$basename.vox stat |");
> my @soxin = <SOXIN>;
> close(SOXIN);
You could use simple backticks. But that shouldn't be much different
from the pipe. Maybe your sox command is writing to STDERR instead of
STDOUT?
jue
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:40:53 -0500
From: "Uri Guttman" <uri@StemSystems.com>
Subject: Re: How to get a program output into array
Message-Id: <87fx8imfnu.fsf@quad.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "sr" == sharma r <sharma__r@hotmail.com> writes:
sr> On Nov 13, 7:31 pm, Thomas Barth <txba...@web.de> wrote:
>> Thomas Barth schrieb:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> > any Idea how to get the output of this command into an array? The output
>> > is still printed to the screen. The array @soxin keeps empty.
>>
>> > open(SOXIN, "sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/$basename.vox stat |");
>> > my @soxin = <SOXIN>;
>> > close(SOXIN);
>>
>> Hi,
>> its cleared, I got it with the command
>> open(SOXIN, "sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/$basename.vox stat 2>&1 |");
>>
>> Thomas B
sr> Or this:
sr> my @soxin = split /\n/, qx/ sox $path -r 8000 -c 1 $src_dir/
sr> $basename.vox stat /;
no need for the split. backticks/qx will split on \n in a list context.
also that won't work as you are using / for the delimiter and / is on
the data. so use another delimiter and {} is usually the best choice
there.
uri
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:04:20 -0800 (PST)
From: sqlcamel <sqlcamel@yahoo.com.hk>
Subject: How to identify double bytes language?
Message-Id: <143be9ee-b12c-49a3-8496-3bea381cc720@x25g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Hello,
I have a text file, there are some double-bytes words in it, like
Chinese, Japanese.
Is there a way to identify them separately with Perl? Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:40:41 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+usenet@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: How to identify double bytes language?
Message-Id: <4afd53ca$0$22933$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
sqlcamel wrote:
> I have a text file, there are some double-bytes words in it, like
> Chinese, Japanese.
> Is there a way to identify them separately with Perl? Thanks.
See
`perldoc perlopentut`,
`perldoc -f open`,
`perldoc open`,
`perldoc PerlIO`
and look for "layer".
--
Ruud
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:56:15 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: How to identify double bytes language?
Message-Id: <v450t6-4om2.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+usenet@xs4all.nl>:
> sqlcamel wrote:
>
> > I have a text file, there are some double-bytes words in it, like
> > Chinese, Japanese.
> > Is there a way to identify them separately with Perl? Thanks.
>
> See
> `perldoc perlopentut`,
> `perldoc -f open`,
> `perldoc open`,
> `perldoc PerlIO`
> and look for "layer".
IMHO you should start with perldoc perlunitut and perldoc perlunicode.
Ben
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:59:03 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+usenet@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: How to identify double bytes language?
Message-Id: <4afd8247$0$22934$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
Ben Morrow wrote:
> Dr.Ruud:
>>> I have a text file, there are some double-bytes words in it, like
>>> Chinese, Japanese.
>>> Is there a way to identify them separately with Perl? Thanks.
>> See
>> `perldoc perlopentut`,
>> `perldoc -f open`,
>> `perldoc open`,
>> `perldoc PerlIO`
>> and look for "layer".
>
> IMHO you should start with perldoc perlunitut and perldoc perlunicode.
I don't understand. Maybe you thought that UTF-16 was meant?
The data in the "double-byte" encoded files (probably Shift-JIS, GB2312
or Big5) will just become normal Perl strings if the right IO-layer is used.
After that, some basic Unicode knowledge will of course help.
--
Ruud
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:50:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Bennett Haselton <bennett@peacefire.org>
Subject: how to install WWW::Mechanize using yum
Message-Id: <ce4b994f-e9fc-4a6b-b83d-9854c7ec5290@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
I'm on CentOS 5.4 with perl 5.8.8 and I'm trying to install
WWW::Mechanize. I try to install Perl modules using "yum" whenever
possible because it seems to keep track of what prerequisites are
missing and install those prerequisites automatically, and other
housekeeping. It seems that if I install some modules with "yum" and
other modules without yum, then yum gets confused about whether those
modules are installed or not...
Anyway, by Googling "yum install" together with "WWW::Mechanize" I
found that I can supposedly install it using "yum install perl-WWW-
Mechanize", if I first add the right repository to /etc/
yum.repos.d/ . I found this page:
http://www.elastix.org/index.php?option=com_openwiki&Itemid=27&id=howto_inatall_elastix_from_centos5
which told me to create elastix.repo in /etc/yum.repos.d/ and copy and
paste the text on that page into that file, which I did. However even
after doing that, I still get the error "No package perl-WWW-Mechanize
available".
I couldn't find any other pages on Google even referring to a
repository that contained perl-WWW-Mechanize. Is there some other way
to install it using yum?
More generally, if I have the name of a package that I want to install
using yum (although this is generalizing beyond Perl-specific issues),
is there a way to search for a repository that contains it? Other
than just Googling. Like a centralized repository search engine?
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:54:58 +0000
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: how to install WWW::Mechanize using yum
Message-Id: <i250t6-4om2.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth Bennett Haselton <bennett@peacefire.org>:
> I'm on CentOS 5.4 with perl 5.8.8 and I'm trying to install
> WWW::Mechanize. I try to install Perl modules using "yum" whenever
> possible because it seems to keep track of what prerequisites are
> missing and install those prerequisites automatically, and other
> housekeeping. It seems that if I install some modules with "yum" and
> other modules without yum, then yum gets confused about whether those
> modules are installed or not...
This is generally true of package management systems, though there are
exceptions. Some systems provide a simple tool for turning a CPAN
distribution into a package you can install, which can be useful when
you want to install a module that isn't packaged.
> Anyway, by Googling "yum install" together with "WWW::Mechanize" I
> found that I can supposedly install it using "yum install perl-WWW-
> Mechanize", if I first add the right repository to /etc/
> yum.repos.d/ . I found this page:
<snip>
These questions are all about using yum. They are nothing to do with
perl. I suggest you ask on a RedHat specific group or mailing list.
Ben
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:13:04 -0800 (PST)
From: John Gabriele <jmg3000@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: how to install WWW::Mechanize using yum
Message-Id: <96375299-5c3b-469b-8a0e-4333604f411c@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 12, 8:50=A0pm, Bennett Haselton <benn...@peacefire.org> wrote:
>
>=A0I try to install Perl modules using "yum" whenever
> possible because it seems to keep track of what prerequisites are
> missing and install those prerequisites automatically, and other
> housekeeping. =A0It seems that if I install some modules with "yum" and
> other modules without yum, then yum gets confused about whether those
> modules are installed or not...
Due to this, I try to always keep the system perl (/usr/bin/perl)
separate and distinct from my own perl (usually installed into either /
opt/perl or else ~/opt/perl).
This way, with your system perl you *only* use `aptitude`/`yum`, and
with your own perl you *only* use `cpanp`/`cpan`.
---John
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:43:23 +0100
From: Martijn Lievaart <m@rtij.nl.invlalid>
Subject: Re: how to install WWW::Mechanize using yum
Message-Id: <rei0t6-30b.ln1@news.rtij.nl>
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:50:32 -0800, Bennett Haselton wrote:
> I couldn't find any other pages on Google even referring to a repository
> that contained perl-WWW-Mechanize. Is there some other way to install
> it using yum?
www.rpmforge.net
HTH,
M4
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:53:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org>
Subject: mingw Perl: no long doubles?
Message-Id: <slrnhfq0jr.lgf.nospam-abuse@powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu>
Inspecting robot reports on module testing (e.g.,
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/11/msg5955376.html
), I see that the version of compiler used for some MSWin32 builds do
not have "honest" long doubles: I see: longdblsize=8.
Can somebody explain the reasoning for such an omission? Or is it a
bug in Configure-stage of Perl build?
Thanks,
Ilya
P.S. Due to a bug in test suite, today it has come to my attension
that similar restrictions exist on s390 and alpha linuxes; but
there it is hardware limitation; while Win32 in question is
ix86...
P.P.S. I know that mingw uses M$'s runtime; maybe it is an ABI
incompatibility between gcc and M$'s compilers? But it should
be trivial to fix by assembler thunks generated by a simple
Perl script...
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:12:49 -0600
From: tadmc@seesig.invalid
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.9 $)
Message-Id: <TsadnYS5toaciGDXnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@giganews.com>
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you include code, cut and paste it directly in the message body.
Don't attach anything to the message. Don't post vcards or HTML.
Many people (and even some Usenet servers) will automatically filter
out such messages. Many people will not be able to easily read your
post. Plain text is something everyone can read.
Social faux pas to avoid
The first two below are symptoms of lots of FAQ asking here in clpmisc.
It happens so often that folks will assume that it is happening yet
again. If you have looked but not found, or found but didn't understand
the docs, say so in your article.
Asking a Frequently Asked Question
It should be understood that you may have missed the applicable FAQ
when you checked, which is not a big deal. But if the Frequently
Asked Question is worded similar to your question, folks will assume
that you did not look at all. Don't become indignant at pointers to
the FAQ, particularly if it solves your problem.
Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
If folks think you have not even tried the obvious step of reading
the docs applicable to your problem, they are likely to become
annoyed.
If you are flamed for not checking when you *did* check, then just
shrug it off (and take the answer that you got).
Asking for emailed answers
Emailed answers benefit one person. Posted answers benefit the
entire community. If folks can take the time to answer your
question, then you can take the time to go get the answer in the
same place where you asked the question.
It is OK to ask for a *copy* of the answer to be emailed, but many
will ignore such requests anyway. If you munge your address, you
should never expect (or ask) to get email in response to a Usenet
post.
Ask the question here, get the answer here (maybe).
Beware of saying "doesn't work"
This is a "red flag" phrase. If you find yourself writing that,
pause and see if you can't describe what is not working without
saying "doesn't work". That is, describe how it is not what you
want.
Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
A "stealth Cc" is when you both email and post a reply without
indicating *in the body* that you are doing so.
Be extra cautious when you get upset
Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
This is recommended in all Usenet newsgroups. Here in clpmisc, most
flaming sub-threads are not about any feature of Perl at all! They
are most often for what was seen as a breach of netiquette. If you
have lurked for a bit, then you will know what is expected and won't
make such posts in the first place.
But if you get upset, wait a while before writing your followup. I
recommend waiting at least 30 minutes.
Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
After you have written your followup, wait *another* 30 minutes
before committing yourself by posting it. You cannot take it back
once it has been said.
AUTHOR
Tad McClellan and many others on the comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup.
--
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"
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