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Today's topics:
        create directory in other domain <elgato.andrey@gmail.com>
    Re: create directory in other domain <mail@bananas-playground.net>
    Re: create directory in other domain <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid>
    Re: create directory in other domain <elgato.andrey@gmail.com>
    Re: create directory in other domain <elgato.andrey@gmail.com>
    Re: create directory in other domain <mail@bananas-playground.net>
    Re: create directory in other domain <elgato.andrey@gmail.com>
    Re: create directory in other domain <c7eqjyg02@sneakemail.com>
    Re: getting return value of external application on win <c7eqjyg02@sneakemail.com>
        How to avoid \x{...} when converting unicode to latin1? <OJZGSRPBZVCX@spammotel.com>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:03:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrey <elgato.andrey@gmail.com>
Subject: create directory in other domain
Message-Id: <cc2dbc93-1131-4b1e-9b92-37e12cbea596@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>

Hi!

I have 2 sites in same server (it is dedicated one not shared)

I need to create a directory in one site by using perl-script on other
site.

Then I try to create a new directory I got error "Permission denied".
But then I try to create directory in same directory it works fine.
(Parent's directory access is OK  0777 )

I guess there some setting in httpd.conf (or somewhere else ) that
perform that "protection".

Thanks!


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:16:15 +0200
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22j=2Eke=DFler=22?= <mail@bananas-playground.net>
Subject: Re: create directory in other domain
Message-Id: <h41u7f$m7t$01$1@news.t-online.com>

Andrey wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have 2 sites in same server (it is dedicated one not shared)
> 
> I need to create a directory in one site by using perl-script on other
> site.
> 
> Then I try to create a new directory I got error "Permission denied".
> But then I try to create directory in same directory it works fine.
> (Parent's directory access is OK  0777 )
> 
> I guess there some setting in httpd.conf (or somewhere else ) that
> perform that "protection".
> 
> Thanks!
Hello,

as far as I understand, those are perl script which are run by the webserver.

Could it be that the two different domains are run by two different system
users  ?

regrads,
j.keßler


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:23:18 -0500
From: "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid>
Subject: Re: create directory in other domain
Message-Id: <4a64ab57$0$1328$815e3792@news.qwest.net>

Andrey wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have 2 sites in same server (it is dedicated one not shared)
> 
> I need to create a directory in one site by using perl-script on other
> site.

Why do you feel you need to do that?

> 
> Then I try to create a new directory I got error "Permission denied".
> But then I try to create directory in same directory it works fine.
> (Parent's directory access is OK  0777 )

How are you trying to do that?

> 
> I guess there some setting in httpd.conf (or somewhere else ) that
> perform that "protection".

Make sure you're in the correct directory, when you try to create
a directory.  Add that to the error message, to show what
directory the process is in.

Make sure the ID that's running the Web server process, can
create a directory there.

Making a directory 777, under your DOCUMENT_HOME, typically
isn't 'OK'.  Make it writable by the owner of the Web
server's process, or by a group, but not by other.

Finally, show us your code.  Make it as short as possible and
possibly the permissions on the directory in question.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:20:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrey <elgato.andrey@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: create directory in other domain
Message-Id: <6ad945de-edb1-483b-88b3-ff80bad888c6@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>

On 20 =D0=B8=D1=8E=D0=BB, 21:16, "j.ke=C3=9Fler" <m...@bananas-playground.n=
et> wrote:
> Andrey wrote:
> > Hi!
>
> > I have 2 sites in same server (it is dedicated one not shared)
>
> > I need to create a directory in one site by using perl-script on other
> > site.
>
> > Then I try to create a new directory I got error "Permission denied".
> > But then I try to create directory in same directory it works fine.
> > (Parent's directory access is OK =C2=A00777 )
>
> > I guess there some setting in httpd.conf (or somewhere else ) that
> > perform that "protection".
>
> > Thanks!
>
> Hello,
>
> as far as I understand, those are perl script which are run by the webser=
ver.
>
> Could it be that the two different domains are run by two different syste=
m
> users =C2=A0?
>
> regrads,
> j.ke=C3=9Fler

Yes, these domains are run by two different users.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrey <elgato.andrey@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: create directory in other domain
Message-Id: <10bf24b0-343b-451f-b0c4-281dd64570e3@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>

On 21 =D0=B8=D1=8E=D0=BB, 01:23, "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-s...@qwest-spam-no.=
invalid>
wrote:
> Andrey wrote:
> > Hi!
>
> > I have 2 sites in same server (it is dedicated one not shared)
>
> > I need to create a directory in one site by using perl-script on other
> > site.
>
> Why do you feel you need to do that?

This is a part of big and comoplex CMS.



> > Then I try to create a new directory I got error "Permission denied".
> > But then I try to create directory in same directory it works fine.
> > (Parent's directory access is OK =C2=A00777 )
>
> How are you trying to do that?

my $dir =3D "/var/www/vhosts/site1/..../upload/test_mkdir";
mkdir($dir);
And this command makes error too:
if (-d $dir) ...



> > I guess there some setting in httpd.conf (or somewhere else ) that
> > perform that "protection".
>
> Make sure you're in the correct directory, when you try to create
> a directory. =C2=A0Add that to the error message, to show what
> directory the process is in.

I trying to make new dir with absolute path. I mean it starts with "/
var/..."



> Make sure the ID that's running the Web server process, can
> create a directory there.

The 'upload' directory have 0777 rights. I think it is enough. Isn't
it?


> Making a directory 777, under your DOCUMENT_HOME, typically
> isn't 'OK'. =C2=A0Make it writable by the owner of the Web
> server's process, or by a group, but not by other.
>
> Finally, show us your code. =C2=A0Make it as short as possible and
> possibly the permissions on the directory in question.

It is deep nested directory. I mean DOCUMENT_ROOT/dir1/dir2/dir3/
upload/test_mkdir
I know that 0777 isn't good. I give 0777 rights to eliminate other
access errors.
So only 'upload' directory have 0777.


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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:34:02 +0200
From: =?UTF-8?B?Imoua2XDn2xlciI=?= <mail@bananas-playground.net>
Subject: Re: create directory in other domain
Message-Id: <h43r1a$27g$00$3@news.t-online.com>

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Andrey wrote:
> On 21 июл, 01:23, "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-s...@qwest-spam-no.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Andrey wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I have 2 sites in same server (it is dedicated one not shared)
>>> I need to create a directory in one site by using perl-script on other
>>> site.
>> Why do you feel you need to do that?
> 
> This is a part of big and comoplex CMS.
> 
> 
> 
>>> Then I try to create a new directory I got error "Permission denied".
>>> But then I try to create directory in same directory it works fine.
>>> (Parent's directory access is OK  0777 )
>> How are you trying to do that?
> 
> my $dir = "/var/www/vhosts/site1/..../upload/test_mkdir";
> mkdir($dir);
> And this command makes error too:
> if (-d $dir) ...
> 
> 
> 
>>> I guess there some setting in httpd.conf (or somewhere else ) that
>>> perform that "protection".
>> Make sure you're in the correct directory, when you try to create
>> a directory.  Add that to the error message, to show what
>> directory the process is in.
> 
> I trying to make new dir with absolute path. I mean it starts with "/
> var/..."
> 
> 
> 
>> Make sure the ID that's running the Web server process, can
>> create a directory there.
> 
> The 'upload' directory have 0777 rights. I think it is enough. Isn't
> it?
> 
> 
>> Making a directory 777, under your DOCUMENT_HOME, typically
>> isn't 'OK'.  Make it writable by the owner of the Web
>> server's process, or by a group, but not by other.
>>
>> Finally, show us your code.  Make it as short as possible and
>> possibly the permissions on the directory in question.
> 
> It is deep nested directory. I mean DOCUMENT_ROOT/dir1/dir2/dir3/
> upload/test_mkdir
> I know that 0777 isn't good. I give 0777 rights to eliminate other
> access errors.
> So only 'upload' directory have 0777.
well, it lokks for me, that there is no "big" mistake.

So it could be a webserver setting, which I can't think of....

regards,
j. keßler
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:57:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrey <elgato.andrey@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: create directory in other domain
Message-Id: <3ff78e6b-73be-4f57-a4d7-d0e8b9cce5eb@k1g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>

Thank you all!

Problem solved!

I have added "execute" rights for group to my DOCUMENT_ROOT (chmod g+x)


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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:03:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: linuxlover <c7eqjyg02@sneakemail.com>
Subject: Re: create directory in other domain
Message-Id: <856974f2-ff9a-4e1f-bd71-5dd1b50dd150@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>

On 21 jul, 04:47, Andrey <elgato.and...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> > > Then I try to create a new directory I got error "Permission denied".

[...]

> my $dir = "/var/www/vhosts/site1/..../upload/test_mkdir";
> mkdir($dir);
> And this command makes error too:
> if (-d $dir) ...
>
> > > I guess there some setting in httpd.conf (or somewhere else ) that
> > > perform that "protection".

[...]

> The 'upload' directory have 0777 rights. I think it is enough. Isn't
> it?

[...]

> It is deep nested directory. I mean DOCUMENT_ROOT/dir1/dir2/dir3/
> upload/test_mkdir
> I know that 0777 isn't good. I give 0777 rights to eliminate other
> access errors.
> So only 'upload' directory have 0777.

Apart from the permission to create a new directory in /var/www/vhosts/
site1/..../upload/ (for which you need 'w' permission in the directory
mode), the process that calls the mkdir also needs access to enter
that directory, so for each step in /, /var, /var/www/, /var/www/
vhosts/, /var/www/vhosts/site1/, /var/www/vhosts/site1/..../upload/
you need 'x' permission.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:11:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: linuxlover <c7eqjyg02@sneakemail.com>
Subject: Re: getting return value of external application on win32
Message-Id: <b145766f-8bb5-4e0d-9966-22be66ecf11b@y19g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>

On 16 jul, 13:30, alfonsobaldaserra <alfonso.baldase...@gmail.com>
wrote:
[...]
>
> any more ideas?

I would recommend module IPC::Run3, which does a very portable and
Perlish way to do the redirects:

[code]
use strict;
use IPC::Run3;
my ($stdout, $stderr);
my @app = ('c:/program files/foo/flarp.exe', 'status',  'quux');
run3(\@app, \undef, \$stdout, \$stderr);
if ( $? == 0 ) { print "yay"; }
[/code]

Note that the external application and its command-line parameters are
in an array, avoiding the detour via cmd.exe and that stdout and
stderr can be captured separately. The \undef connects stdin to /dev/
null (or the Win32 equivalent NUL). Also, pathnames in Win32 Perl may
be written with forward slashes.


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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:55:19 +0200
From: "Jochen Lehmeier" <OJZGSRPBZVCX@spammotel.com>
Subject: How to avoid \x{...} when converting unicode to latin1?
Message-Id: <op.uxewihvnmk9oye@frodo>

Hello,

here is a test script that outputs a unicode string which cannot be  
represented in latin1 to a latin1-encoded file:

	my $unicode="hello \x{010d} world";
	binmode STDOUT,":encoding(latin1)";
	print $unicode,"\n";
	
The output of Perl 5.8.8 is:

	"\x{010d}" does not map to iso-8859-1 at test.pl line 3.
	hello \x{010d} world
	
So far so good. The output is perfectly fine, as expected.

Is there a way to achieve the output "hello ? world" instead? Having  
non-representable characters replaced by the \x{} notation does not help  
much, in my case. Non-technical users will not understand this, but they  
will understand the "?" (or even latin1-\xbf, the inverse question mark).

Important: I would like to achieve this on the I/O level, either while  
opening the file handle, or even with a global setting that catches all  
handles opened later. It would be trivial to remove the \x{} using regular  
expressions, but that would mean I'd have to make lots of changes to my  
scripts.

Thanks in advance!


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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:15:40 -0500
From: tadmc@seesig.invalid
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.9 $)
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        do not post someone *else's* entire program.

    Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
        clpmisc is a text only newsgroup. If you have images or binaries
        that explain your question, put them in a publically accessible
        place (like a Web server) and provide a pointer to that location. If
        you include code, cut and paste it directly in the message body.
        Don't attach anything to the message. Don't post vcards or HTML.
        Many people (and even some Usenet servers) will automatically filter
        out such messages. Many people will not be able to easily read your
        post. Plain text is something everyone can read.

  Social faux pas to avoid
    The first two below are symptoms of lots of FAQ asking here in clpmisc.
    It happens so often that folks will assume that it is happening yet
    again. If you have looked but not found, or found but didn't understand
    the docs, say so in your article.

    Asking a Frequently Asked Question
        It should be understood that you may have missed the applicable FAQ
        when you checked, which is not a big deal. But if the Frequently
        Asked Question is worded similar to your question, folks will assume
        that you did not look at all. Don't become indignant at pointers to
        the FAQ, particularly if it solves your problem.

    Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
        If folks think you have not even tried the obvious step of reading
        the docs applicable to your problem, they are likely to become
        annoyed.

        If you are flamed for not checking when you *did* check, then just
        shrug it off (and take the answer that you got).

    Asking for emailed answers
        Emailed answers benefit one person. Posted answers benefit the
        entire community. If folks can take the time to answer your
        question, then you can take the time to go get the answer in the
        same place where you asked the question.

        It is OK to ask for a *copy* of the answer to be emailed, but many
        will ignore such requests anyway. If you munge your address, you
        should never expect (or ask) to get email in response to a Usenet
        post.

        Ask the question here, get the answer here (maybe).

    Beware of saying "doesn't work"
        This is a "red flag" phrase. If you find yourself writing that,
        pause and see if you can't describe what is not working without
        saying "doesn't work". That is, describe how it is not what you
        want.

    Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
        A "stealth Cc" is when you both email and post a reply without
        indicating *in the body* that you are doing so.

  Be extra cautious when you get upset
    Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
        This is recommended in all Usenet newsgroups. Here in clpmisc, most
        flaming sub-threads are not about any feature of Perl at all! They
        are most often for what was seen as a breach of netiquette. If you
        have lurked for a bit, then you will know what is expected and won't
        make such posts in the first place.

        But if you get upset, wait a while before writing your followup. I
        recommend waiting at least 30 minutes.

    Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
        After you have written your followup, wait *another* 30 minutes
        before committing yourself by posting it. You cannot take it back
        once it has been said.

AUTHOR
    Tad McClellan and many others on the comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup.

-- 
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:17:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mr. Nonsense" <mynonsense@mynonsense.net>
Subject: Require a module, but not fail if not found
Message-Id: <7986e9c6-9560-48d8-a58d-3309079d65cb@d23g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>

I want to require a module, but let the script continue if the module
can not be found. Currently my script will fail if it can not load/
find the module.


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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:27:22 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Require a module, but not fail if not found
Message-Id: <q24fj6-jm2.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>


Quoth "Mr. Nonsense" <mynonsense@mynonsense.net>:
> I want to require a module, but let the script continue if the module
> can not be found. Currently my script will fail if it can not load/
> find the module.

eval { require Module };

Ben



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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:07:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rajpreet <rajpreetsidhu@gmail.com>
Subject: SpreadSHeet::WriteExcel Error
Message-Id: <b9c527d6-858b-430f-bc20-68fc34dbccc8@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

Greetings,

I am trying to generate an excel report using perl. However, I am
getting below error. Below is the sample file and error quote. Can any
one suggest something?

Sample Code:
#!/tools/perl/bin/perl
use Spreadsheet::WriteExcel;

my $logFile;
$logFile ="/users/rajpreet/Perl_Test07012009.xls";
#unlink($logFile);
print ("logfile is $logFile \n");
$workbook           = Spreadsheet::WriteExcel->new('$logFile');
print "At the end of file \n";

Error:
Can't open $logFile. It may be in use or protected at /auto/rajpreet/
test.pl line 8
logfile is /rajpreet/Perl_Test07012009.xls
At the end of file

TIA.


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