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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:09:09 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest           Tue, 7 Apr 2009     Volume: 11 Number: 2324

Today's topics:
    Re: Extremely long Perl debugger output in Windows <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
    Re: Extremely long Perl debugger output in Windows <cartercc@gmail.com>
        Function alias <n@solenttechnology.co.uk>
        Function alias <n@solenttechnology.co.uk>
    Re: Function alias <devnull4711@web.de>
    Re: Function alias <bigiain@mightymedia.com.au>
    Re: Function alias <smallpond@juno.com>
    Re: Function alias <devnull4711@web.de>
    Re: Function alias <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
    Re: Function alias <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
        Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision:  tadmc@seesig.invalid
        Proper Technique for DBD::mysql install <sunckell@gmail.com>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:15:50 -0500
From: Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: Extremely long Perl debugger output in Windows
Message-Id: <slrngtmgvm.3og.tadmc@tadmc30.sbcglobal.net>

Artemis Fowl <neokrish@gmail.com> wrote:


> I am facing a minor issue while I am debugging my perl script. It
> contains a lot of "PRINT" statements


Then it contains a lot of syntax errors and will not execute at all.


-- 
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Extremely long Perl debugger output in Windows
Message-Id: <96614a1b-41ad-444c-988e-df3c941cc04e@k41g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>

On Apr 7, 12:42=A0am, Artemis Fowl <neokr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Experts,

This isn't a Perl expert question, but an OS expert question.

> I am facing a minor issue while I am debugging my perl script. It
> contains a lot of "PRINT" statements and when I let it run in the
> debugger, in the command prompt in Windows, I lose out on a lot of
> output. But I would like to capture this.

Use the redirect output operator. If you run your command like this:
%perl my_prog.plx

run it like this
%perl my_prog.plx > output.txt

The redirect part (> output.txt) redirects console output to a file
named output.txt in the same directory.

CC


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:37:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: neilsolent <n@solenttechnology.co.uk>
Subject: Function alias
Message-Id: <eadea57a-61e1-49a0-81b6-64000fba96d2@3g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>

I have a question on Perl syntax. Given a couple of functions:

#########
sub Test1
{
	print "Test1\n";
}

sub Test2
{
	print "Test2\n";
}

#######

How can I call the subroutine that is named in a scalar variable
$func?
Here, the scalar $func will contain either "Test1" or "Test2"

e.g. this doesn't work:

&($func)

Thanks,
Neil


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:37:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: neilsolent <n@solenttechnology.co.uk>
Subject: Function alias
Message-Id: <ea137925-54c3-4490-8608-5e6b5996377c@o6g2000yql.googlegroups.com>

I have a question on Perl syntax. Given a couple of functions:

#########
sub Test1
{
	print "Test1\n";
}

sub Test2
{
	print "Test2\n";
}

#######

How can I call the subroutine that is named in a scalar variable
$func?
Here, the scalar $func will contain either "Test1" or "Test2"

e.g. this doesn't work:

&($func)

Thanks,
Neil


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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:16:33 +0200
From: Frank Seitz <devnull4711@web.de>
Subject: Re: Function alias
Message-Id: <740ng1F1012a1U5@mid.individual.net>

neilsolent wrote:
>
> How can I call the subroutine that is named in a scalar variable
> $func?

{ no strict 'refs'; &$func(); }

Frank
-- 
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:20:48 +1100
From: Iain Chalmers <bigiain@mightymedia.com.au>
Subject: Re: Function alias
Message-Id: <bigiain-E535B4.20204707042009@news.usenetmonster.com>

In article 
<ea137925-54c3-4490-8608-5e6b5996377c@o6g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
 neilsolent <n@solenttechnology.co.uk> wrote:

> I have a question on Perl syntax. Given a couple of functions:
> 
> #########
> sub Test1
> {
> 	print "Test1\n";
> }
> 
> sub Test2
> {
> 	print "Test2\n";
> }
> 
> #######
> 
> How can I call the subroutine that is named in a scalar variable
> $func?
> Here, the scalar $func will contain either "Test1" or "Test2"
> 
> e.g. this doesn't work:
> 
> &($func)

You _can_ do that, but there are some really good reasons why it's 
usually not a good idea... 

Maybe tell us what you're _actually_ trying to do? 

A hash of coderefs is the most likely answer, something like this:

#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;

my $mysubs = {
   'x'=> sub {print "x:".shift."\n"},
   'y' => sub {print "y:".shift."\n"},
   };

my $z='x';

&{$mysubs->{$z}}('here');

$z='y';

&{$mysubs->{$z}}('here');


__END__

Here's how you can do it (not, it's not "use strict" safe)

#!/usr/bin/perl
#use strict;
use warnings;

sub x{print "x:".shift."\n"}

sub y{print "y:".shift."\n"}

my $z='x';

&{$z}('here');

$z='y';

&{$z}('here');

__END__

But _bad_ things can happen if $z contains something unexpected... You 
almost certainly _don't_ want to do that...

big

-- 
As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And 
you'll need the cocaine. Tape recorder for special music. Acapulco shirts. 
Get the hell out of L.A. for at least 48 hours. Blows my weekend.


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:40:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: smallpond <smallpond@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Function alias
Message-Id: <92eabff5-b7af-45f9-a205-87a6b9c326a5@e18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>

On Apr 7, 6:16=A0am, Frank Seitz <devnull4...@web.de> wrote:
> neilsolent wrote:
>
> > How can I call the subroutine that is named in a scalar variable
> > $func?
>
> { no strict 'refs'; &$func(); }
>
> Frank


What's wrong with being strict?

#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;

sub Test1
{
        print "Test1\n";
}

sub Test2
{
        print "Test2\n";
}

foreach my $func ( \&Test1, \&Test2 ) {
  &$func();
}

Test1
Test2



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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:46:18 +0200
From: Frank Seitz <devnull4711@web.de>
Subject: Re: Function alias
Message-Id: <740p7qF1012a1U6@mid.individual.net>

smallpond wrote:
> On Apr 7, 6:16 am, Frank Seitz <devnull4...@web.de> wrote:
>> neilsolent wrote:
>>
>>> How can I call the subroutine that is named in a scalar variable
>>> $func?
>> { no strict 'refs'; &$func(); }
> 
> What's wrong with being strict?
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> use warnings;
> use strict;
> 
> sub Test1
> {
>         print "Test1\n";
> }
> 
> sub Test2
> {
>         print "Test2\n";
> }
> 
> foreach my $func ( \&Test1, \&Test2 ) {
>   &$func();
> }
> 
> Test1
> Test2

He has a name not a reference.

Frank
-- 
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Anwendungen für Ihr Internet und Intranet
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:41:12 -0700
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Function alias
Message-Id: <lqemt4t11vvek94pm5s8i1u886ov9ogegn@4ax.com>

neilsolent <n@solenttechnology.co.uk> wrote:
>How can I call the subroutine that is named in a scalar variable
>$func?
>Here, the scalar $func will contain either "Test1" or "Test2"

One quick and dirty way: use eval(), which of course comes with its own
load of risks and issues.

The best way is to use a dispatch table, see DejaNews aka Google Groups
for details, this has been discussed before.

jue


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:13:46 -0500
From: Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: Function alias
Message-Id: <slrngtmgrq.3og.tadmc@tadmc30.sbcglobal.net>

neilsolent <n@solenttechnology.co.uk> wrote:

> I have a question on Perl syntax. 


I suggest that you abandon your current approach altogether.

What is it that you are actually trying to accomplish?

There is almost certainly a way to get what you want without
the potential bugs and obtuse machinations required by 
using Symbolic References.


> Given a couple of functions:
>
> #########
> sub Test1
> {
> 	print "Test1\n";
> }
>
> sub Test2
> {
> 	print "Test2\n";
> }
>
> #######
>
> How can I call the subroutine that is named in a scalar variable
> $func?


One way would be to look it up directly in the Symbol Table hash:

    $main::{$func}->();

But don't do that.
    

Another way would be by using a Symbolic Reference (perldoc perlref).

    no strict 'refs';
    $func->();

But don't do that either. 

Using symrefs is a Very Bad Idea...


> Here, the scalar $func will contain either "Test1" or "Test2"


 ... so use real references rather than symbolic references by using
your own hash for the dispatch table rather than using the %main::
hash for your dispatch table.


--------------------------
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;

sub Test1
{
                print "Test1 got called\n";
}

sub Test2
{
                print "Test2 got called\n";
}

my %dispatch = (
    Test1 => \&Test1,
    Test2 => \&Test2,
);

foreach my $func ( 'Test1', 'Test2' ) {
    print "calling $func()...\n";
    $dispatch{$func}->();
}
--------------------------


-- 
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"


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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:11:25 GMT
From: tadmc@seesig.invalid
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.9 $)
Message-Id: <x0DCl.15751$W06.5015@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com>

Outline
   Before posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
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   Posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
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       - Question should be about Perl, not about the application area
      How to participate (post) in the clpmisc community
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       - Use an effective followup style
       - Speak Perl rather than English, when possible
       - Ask perl to help you
       - Do not re-type Perl code
       - Provide enough information
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       - Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
      Social faux pas to avoid
       - Asking a Frequently Asked Question
       - Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
       - Asking for emailed answers
       - Beware of saying "doesn't work"
       - Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
      Be extra cautious when you get upset
       - Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
       - Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
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-- 
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email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"


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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:27:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: sunckell <sunckell@gmail.com>
Subject: Proper Technique for DBD::mysql install
Message-Id: <fa16751a-5d8b-47a5-a69d-2d41f6b41de5@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>

Just wondering........


    I am compiling the DBD:mysql perl modules on a Solaris 10 sparc,
machine and seem to have run into an common issue.

    Here is the scenario, Solaris 10 comes with mysql 4 installed in /
usr/sfw,  but I need the mysql 5 client libraries to make remote
connections to a remote mysql 5 database.  So I installed mysql 5 in
another location. (down /export, because the location is
automounted.)  I then compiled the DBD::mysql perl module like so:

perl Makefile.PL --testdb=remote_testdb  --testuser=remote_user --
testpassword=remote_passwd --testhost=remote_host --testport=3306 --
mysql_config=/export/software/mysql-5/bin/mysql_config

mysql_config returns:

Usage: ./mysql_config [OPTIONS]
Options:
        --cflags        [-I/export/software/mysql-5/include  -g -
D_FORTEC_ -DHAVE_RWLOCK_T]
        --include      [-I/export/software/mysql-5/include]
        --libs             [-L/export/software/mysql-5/lib -
lmysqlclient -lz -lposix4 -lgen -lsocket -lnsl -lm]
        --libs_r         [-L/export/software/mysql-5/lib -
lmysqlclient_r -lz -lpthread -lthread -lposix4 -lgen -lsocket -lnsl -
lm  -lpthread -lthread]
        --socket         [/tmp/mysql.sock]
        --port           [0]
        --version        [5.0.67]
        --libmysqld-libs [-L/export/software/mysql-5/lib -lmysqld -lz -
lpthread -lthread -lposix4 -lgen -lsocket -lnsl -lm  -lpthread -
lthread   -lrt]

I am using gcc version 3.4.3 (csl-sol210-3_4-branch+sol_rpath) (which
was also used to build the perl I am using, /export/software/perl/
v5.8.4/bin/perl

When I run a make I get the following warning:

Warning: duplicate function definition 'do' detected in mysql.xs, line
225
Warning: duplicate function definition 'rows' detected in mysql.xs,
line 650

and when I run a make test:

ERROR: install_driver(mysql) failed: Can't load './DBD-mysql-4.010/
blib/arch/auto/DBD/mysql/mysql.so'


I know what the problem is... the mysql.so can't find the
mysqlclient.so file.

so I have to export LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /export/software/mysql-5/lib.
Then the make and make test run properly after that.

But if I run a simple DBI connect script I get:

install_driver(mysql) failed: Can't load '/export/software/perl/v5.8.4/
lib/site_perl/5.8.4/sun4-solaris/auto/DBD/mysql/mysql.so' for module
DBD::mysql: ld.so.1: perl: fatal: libmysqlclient.so.15: open failed:
No such file or directory at /export/software/perl/v5.8.4/lib/5.8.4/
sun4-solaris/DynaLoader.pm line 230.

but yet again if I set my LD_LIBRARY_PATH it runs correctly.

     So after spending the past couple of days "googling,yahooing,
etc" it seems a possible solution is to have the script like so:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
!/apps/perl/5.8.4/bin/perl
BEGIN {
  unless ($ENV{BEGIN_BLOCK}) {
    $ENV{LD_LIBRARY_PATH} = "/export/software/mysql-5/lib";
    $ENV{BEGIN_BLOCK} = 1;
    exec 'env',$0,@ARGV;
  }
}

use strict;
use warnings;
use DBI;

my $db_user   = 'remote_user';
my $db_pass   = 'remote_passwd';
my $db_host   = 'remote_host';
my $db_name   = 'remote_db';
my $db_type   = 'mysql';
my $db_port   = '3306';
my $db_dsn    = "DBI:$db_type:$db_name:$db_host:$db_port";


my $db_con  = DBI->connect($db_dsn, $db_user, $db_pass)
                  || die "Failed DB Connection: $DBI::errstr\n";

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

but it seems like a 1/2 a55ed solution.    I would think I should be
able to compile the DBD::mysql module to have the so always look in
the directory I tell it to for the mysql client and not rely on ld.so.
1 for it's library path or LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

I'm sure other people have had similar experiences.  Is this the way
to go, or is there a better way to do it?


Thanks,
Chad


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