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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 17 Mar 2009 Volume: 11 Number: 2280
Today's topics:
Re: FAQ posts <darkon.tdo@gmail.com>
Re: FAQ posts <darkon.tdo@gmail.com>
Re: How to set the message displayed when a Perl Script <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: Most efficient way to do set-comparison <schaitan@gmail.com>
Re: perl/postscript csv->labels HERE-PROGRAM (Tim McDaniel)
Re: perl/postscript csv->labels HERE-PROGRAM <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: perl/postscript csv->labels HERE-PROGRAM <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: tadmc@seesig.invalid
Test jpeg files for corruption under win32? <hitodenashi@alexandria.cc>
Re: Using Imager module, resize before write? <jwcarlton@gmail.com>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:11:20 -0400
From: "darkon" <darkon.tdo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FAQ posts
Message-Id: <AeqdnQnv6oxUeiLUnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@supernews.com>
"Ben Morrow" <ben@morrow.me.uk> wrote in message
news:au2396-eno2.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org...
>
> Quoth "darkon" <darkon.tdo@gmail.com>:
>>
>> If I understand the grep correctly, @files ends up with only one filename
>> in
>> it: the oldest file. But later, in select_faq(), you say
>>
>> my @files = get_files( $config );
>> my $file = $files[rand @files];
>>
>> I see no reason for the call to rand() unless it's just left over from an
>> earlier version. Maybe I'm missing something.
>
> Yes: some of the files have the *same* -A time. In the case that there
> are several oldest files that are equally old, one is picked at random.
Oh, duh. <smacks self> I should have seen that.
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:12:26 -0400
From: "darkon" <darkon.tdo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FAQ posts
Message-Id: <UKSdnalgTfCWdSLUnZ2dnUVZ_uKWnZ2d@supernews.com>
"Randal L. Schwartz" <merlyn@stonehenge.com> wrote in message
news:863addvylv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com...
>>>>>> "darkon" == darkon <darkon.tdo@gmail.com> writes:
>
> darkon> my $time = 0;
> darkon> my @files =
> darkon> map { $_->[0] }
> darkon> grep { $time ||= $_->[1]; $_->[1] == $time }
> darkon> sort { $b->[1] <=> $a->[1] }
> darkon> map { [ $_, -A $_ ] }
> darkon> glob( File::Spec->catfile( $config->FAQ_DIR,
> "perlfaq*.txt" ) );
>
> darkon> If I understand the grep correctly, @files ends up with only one
> filename in
> darkon> it: the oldest file.
>
> Nope. It ends up with all files that have the same mtime as the
> oldest file.
Yeah, I see that now. Can I plead that it was late in the day and I was
tired? :-)
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:46:21 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: How to set the message displayed when a Perl Script fails compilation?
Message-Id: <slrngrvkuu.5ts.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2009-03-17 02:11, Xho Jingleheimerschmidt <xhoster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
>> Krishna Chaitanya wrote:
>>> Hi, I don't know if this is going to help you....but read up on
>>> fatalsToBrowser ...
>>
>> That feature
>>
>> 1) might reveal sensitive information,
>
> What kind? The only sensitive information I've seen it reveal is "Hey,
> this programmer is clueless."
Authentication credentials.
Hash seeds (I think the recent typo3 exploit used this).
Non-public file names.
...
Often you want this kind of information in an error log so that you can
reproduce the error. So you might include them in a die(). But revealing
them to the user would be a bad idea.
hp
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:09:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Krishna Chaitanya <schaitan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Most efficient way to do set-comparison
Message-Id: <f81315af-f15e-4d0f-92cb-06c20a684cb6@p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com>
> So as a general rule, you want to set up methods both public and private, that change state,
> during runtime.
The mention of private methods is interesting...esp. in Perl. Since
there are no C++-like keywords (private, et al), it's a lot more work
to ensure privacy in Perl for OO? Like using file-level scoping,
closures, etc? Would love to know how this is done as an example, so
that I make up my own ways of designing classes in future. Any good
CPAN modules you know that have private method implementation?
One of my biggest problems is how to achieve true-blue data
encapsulation in Perl.....much like in C++/Java. Am looking for the
strong OO-like encapsulation with the beauty and terseness of Perl.
What an amazing combo that would be!
> Most of the parameters are consumed as local to the method,
> however with complex data, processing sometimes permutes to sub calls to private helper methods
> and area's of $self are sometimes used for scratch instead of passing around the data again.
Yep, in 1 of the .pm I am writing, I've resorted to create more $self
keys "internally" to store some of the results of my calculations
using user input, but which I want the object to "remember" and not be
evaluated again and again (the user doesn't know about these keys as
they are not documented). So, the first-time call to this method would
calculate something, create a key on $self for it and store it. I know
this won't change with repeated calls to this function, so the
subsequent calls will just examine if this key is defined or not and
return the value if defined.
> If its a big item, you may want
> to build a reporting truss within it that can be called by methods. There may be different levels
> of errors from fatal to misdemeaner. A good logging system is always recommended.
>
What is a reporting truss, pls? I've searched but didn't find much on
it. Also, about this truss and good logging system, again, could you
pls. site examples of good CPAN modules that already do all this? I am
prepared to read every line of them to understand these concepts. Pls.
don't mind if I ask for examples, but they really drive home all of
you guys' points...
Thanks for all of your time, help...means much.
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:16:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: tmcd@panix.com (Tim McDaniel)
Subject: Re: perl/postscript csv->labels HERE-PROGRAM
Message-Id: <gpoich$ft1$1@reader1.panix.com>
In article <slrngruf30.5s6.nospam-abuse@chorin.math.berkeley.edu>,
Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> wrote:
>On 2009-03-17, Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>
>> Ask for all the help you can get:
>>
>> use strict;
>> use warnings;
>
>Or, better, add -w ot the #!-line...
>
>>> if ($#ARGV == -1) { $ARGV[0] = "addr.csv"; } #default argument
>
>> $ARGV[0] = "addr.csv" unless defined $ARGV[0]; # default argument
>
>I would write
>
> @ARGV = "addr.csv" unless @ARGV;
I would write
@ARGV = ('addr.csv') if @ARGV == 0;
The parens don't actually cause a list context, but they're visually
reminiscent. In C, where {...} was allowed but not required around
one statement, I used {...} anyway.
I use '...' unless I need variable interpolation.
--
Tim McDaniel, tmcd@panix.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:47:39 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: perl/postscript csv->labels HERE-PROGRAM
Message-Id: <slrngrvl1c.5ts.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2009-03-17 06:00, Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> wrote:
> On 2009-03-17, Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>
>> Ask for all the help you can get:
>>
>> use strict;
>> use warnings;
>
> Or, better, add -w ot the #!-line...
Ok, I'll bite: How is -w better than "use warnings"?
hp
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:59:03 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: perl/postscript csv->labels HERE-PROGRAM
Message-Id: <Xns9BD184139A4A3asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
tmcd@panix.com (Tim McDaniel) wrote in
news:gpoich$ft1$1@reader1.panix.com:
> In article <slrngruf30.5s6.nospam-abuse@chorin.math.berkeley.edu>,
> Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> wrote:
>>On 2009-03-17, Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>>>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>>
>>> Ask for all the help you can get:
>>>
>>> use strict;
>>> use warnings;
>>
>>Or, better, add -w ot the #!-line...
>>
>>>> if ($#ARGV == -1) { $ARGV[0] = "addr.csv"; } #default argument
>>
>>> $ARGV[0] = "addr.csv" unless defined $ARGV[0]; # default
>>> argument
>>
>>I would write
>>
>> @ARGV = "addr.csv" unless @ARGV;
>
> I would write
>
> @ARGV = ('addr.csv') if @ARGV == 0;
I would write:
@ARGV = qw( addr.csv ) unless @ARGV;
Sinan
--
A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
(remove .invalid and reverse each component for email address)
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:10:13 GMT
From: tadmc@seesig.invalid
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.9 $)
Message-Id: <p1Ivl.2186$im1.882@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>
Outline
Before posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
Must
- Check the Perl Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
- Check the other standard Perl docs (*.pod)
Really Really Should
- Lurk for a while before posting
- Search a Usenet archive
If You Like
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Posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
Is there a better place to ask your question?
- Question should be about Perl, not about the application area
How to participate (post) in the clpmisc community
- Carefully choose the contents of your Subject header
- Use an effective followup style
- Speak Perl rather than English, when possible
- Ask perl to help you
- Do not re-type Perl code
- Provide enough information
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- Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
Social faux pas to avoid
- Asking a Frequently Asked Question
- Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
- Asking for emailed answers
- Beware of saying "doesn't work"
- Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
Be extra cautious when you get upset
- Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
- Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
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post.
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Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:58:34 +0100
From: Rodion <hitodenashi@alexandria.cc>
Subject: Test jpeg files for corruption under win32?
Message-Id: <MPG.242a03359a3dafb59896c4@news.metronet.hr>
Unfortunatly there is no Image::TestJPG or similar modules compiled for windows.
Sure, I could find a cli prog and do a system call, but would like to keep it a pure Perl solution.
Any ideas?
--
Professor: Now, be careful, Fry. And if you kill anyone, make sure
to eat their heart to gain their courage. Their rich tasty courage.
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:54:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Carlton <jwcarlton@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Using Imager module, resize before write?
Message-Id: <a8d177bf-7c0f-4e27-a68a-27930f013a54@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
On Mar 16, 4:32=A0am, "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usen...@hjp.at> wrote:
> On 2009-03-16 09:12, Jason Carlton <jwcarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm allowing my site visitor to upload an image. I then resize it to
> > make it fit the dimensions.
>
> > Currently, I'm having to write the image to the server, then read it,
> > resize it, and rewrite it. Like this:
>
> > $picture =3D upload('picture');
>
> > open PIC, ">$basepath/$newpicture";
> > =A0 binmode (PIC);
> > =A0 while ($bytes =3D read($picture,$data,16384)) {
> > =A0 =A0 $length_info +=3D $bytes;
> > =A0 =A0 print PIC $data;
> > =A0 }
> > close PIC;
>
> > # Resize picture
> > my $image =3D Imager->new;
> > $image->read(file =3D> "$basepath/$newpicture");
> > $resize_pic =3D $image->scale(xpixels=3D>400, qtype =3D> 'mixing');
> > $resize_pic->write(file =3D> "$basepath/$newpicture");
>
> > It seems redundant to write it twice,
>
> You don't have to write the picture to a file. $image->read can read
> from a file handle. So
>
> =A0 =A0 $picture =3D upload('picture');
> =A0 =A0 my $image =3D Imager->new;
> =A0 =A0 $image->read(fh =3D> $picture)
>
> should work.
>
> > and it's a waste of bandwidth when someone uploads a 3MB picture just
> > to have it resized to 20kb, but I haven't been able to get it to just
> > read the file to resize before writing it.
>
> You can't resize a picture you don't have, so there isn't anything you
> can do about it, except ask the user (nicely) to resize the pictures
> before uploading them (theoretically it could be done with javascript in
> the browser but I don't think JS has access to the contents of an
> uploaded file).
>
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Thanks, I sort of figured that would be the answer. I'm not entirely
sure how the "upload" function works, though, so I was hoping that
$picture =3D upload('picture') would cache the image or something,
letting me manipulate $picture without having uploaded to the server.
- Jason
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