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Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...? <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...? <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...? <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...? sln@netherlands.com
Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...? sln@netherlands.com
Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...? <uri@stemsystems.com>
Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...? <uri@stemsystems.com>
Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...? <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: good email parser ?? <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: Perl vs. .NET (was: Re: Programmers (UK)...?) sln@netherlands.com
Re: Perl vs. .NET (was: Re: Programmers (UK)...?) sln@netherlands.com
Re: Perl vs. .NET (was: Re: Programmers (UK)...?) <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: Perl vs. .NET (was: Re: Programmers (UK)...?) <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: Programmers (UK)...? <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk>
Re: Programmers (UK)...? sln@netherlands.com
Re: programming by evolution? <blue.indigo@uatel.com.nospam.bogus.invalid.invalid.invalid>
win32 perl compiling problem <steinbach@gmx-topmail.de>
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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:32:44 -0600
From: Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <slrngoucqs.i9v.tadmc@tadmc30.sbcglobal.net>
Cliff MacGillivray <cliff@excite.com> wrote:
> Uri Guttman wrote:
>>>>>>> "CM" == Cliff MacGillivray <cliff@excite.com> writes:
>>
>> CM> Uri Guttman wrote:
>> >>>>>>> "TJM" == Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> writes:
>> TJM> Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >> Can anyone recommend places (websites) or agencies I should be contacting,
>> >> >> where Perl experience is an advantage rather than a deadweight?
>> >> as for placement agencies, i am the only one in the world that is
>> >> 100%
>> >> dedicated to SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM you
>> >> have been talking to useless agents who do buzzword matching.
>> CM> abuse complaint sent
>>
>> sent to whom and about what?
> If you knew anything about usenet
If you knew anything about usenet you would know that mentioning
your line of business in a .sig is perfectly acceptable.
> it wasn't spam.
> Yes, it was.
No it wasn't.
It was a direct response to an explicit query.
The OP *asked* for info on agents that know about Real Perl Programmers.
> As is that crap you have at the bottom of your messages
> advertising your various scams.
If you knew anything about usenet you would know that mentioning
your line of business in a .sig is perfectly acceptable.
>> if i posted stuff here all the time
>> about it, it would be spam.
> At the bottom of all of your posts is not considered "All the Time" !?!?
If you knew anything about usenet you would know that mentioning
your line of business in a .sig is perfectly acceptable.
--
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"
Hire me for Perl programming! Available for contract or permanent.(no spam here)
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:13:33 -0800
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <n0fuo4t18204qp9e06pisv9l6vn373ml5v@4ax.com>
Cliff MacGillivray <cliff@excite.com> wrote:
>Uri Guttman wrote:
[...]
>abuse complaint sent
Considering that this is only your second contribution to CLPM ever
(first one being vastly off topic about syntax highlighting on web
sites) you are in no a position to critizise a long-standing, active
and valued member of CLPM.
jue
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:14:58 -0800
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <f8fuo4pv9r7rp13sg5p1sa73spmvmel9jd@4ax.com>
Cliff MacGillivray <cliff@excite.com> wrote:
>At the bottom of all of your posts is not considered "All the Time" !?!?
You don't know much about Usenet, do you?
*PLONK*
jue
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:45:41 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <80ouo41l01ra4dfgitcojb61c7fu92dme4@4ax.com>
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:32:44 -0600, Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>Cliff MacGillivray <cliff@excite.com> wrote:
>> Uri Guttman wrote:
>>>>>>>> "CM" == Cliff MacGillivray <cliff@excite.com> writes:
>>>
>>> CM> Uri Guttman wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> "TJM" == Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> writes:
>>> TJM> Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >> >> Can anyone recommend places (websites) or agencies I should be contacting,
>>> >> >> where Perl experience is an advantage rather than a deadweight?
>
>>> >> as for placement agencies, i am the only one in the world that is
>>> >> 100%
>>> >> dedicated to SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM you
>>> >> have been talking to useless agents who do buzzword matching.
>>> CM> abuse complaint sent
>>>
>>> sent to whom and about what?
>> If you knew anything about usenet
>
>
>If you knew anything about usenet you would know that mentioning
>your line of business in a .sig is perfectly acceptable.
>
>
>> it wasn't spam.
>> Yes, it was.
>
>
>No it wasn't.
>
>It was a direct response to an explicit query.
>
>The OP *asked* for info on agents that know about Real Perl Programmers.
>
>
>> As is that crap you have at the bottom of your messages
>> advertising your various scams.
>
>
>If you knew anything about usenet you would know that mentioning
>your line of business in a .sig is perfectly acceptable.
>
>
>>> if i posted stuff here all the time
>>> about it, it would be spam.
>> At the bottom of all of your posts is not considered "All the Time" !?!?
>
>
>If you knew anything about usenet you would know that mentioning
>your line of business in a .sig is perfectly acceptable.
I kind of agree with this. Although, I would like to see hobbies also..
--
sln.. PS: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately.
Telecomute only. Full-Time or contract.
Regex/XML/Database/Parsing(et all) Expert.
Will work for 60k the first year guaranteed !!
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:58:44 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <nlouo4hsnbekmfbss73ltqunggd238b6ni@4ax.com>
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:14:58 -0800, Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Cliff MacGillivray <cliff@excite.com> wrote:
>>At the bottom of all of your posts is not considered "All the Time" !?!?
>
>You don't know much about Usenet, do you?
>
>*PLONK*
>
>jue
Ya know what the thing about plonks is ?
- sln
My *plonk*'s bigger than your *plonk*, my *plonk*'s bigger
than yours, my *plonk*'s bigger than your *plonk*, all the live long day, hey!!
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:32:18 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <x7ljsgpksd.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "VC" == Vicky Conlan <comps@riffraff.plig.net> writes:
VC> According to <uri@stemsystems.com>:
>> also the london perl monger's manage their own jobs list so you would
>> get more a more focused group. and i know several UK hackers who might
>> be available. but maybe hiring in 2 months is not useful immediately.
VC> I was going to suggest LPM, but he did say Leeds not London. In my
VC> experience the problem he's going to have is that if you want Perl
VC> programmers, most of them are very firmly based in London.
i don't know uk geography other than most pm'ers are around london. but
i do know there are perl hackers all over the uk and i have seen job
leads outside of london as well. i don't subscribe to the london.pm jobs
list but my understanding is that it kinda covers most/all of the uk.
uri
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:37:56 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <x7hc34pkiz.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "TJM" == Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> writes:
TJM> If you knew anything about usenet you would know that mentioning
TJM> your line of business in a .sig is perfectly acceptable.
best to ignore this troll (as with all trolls). he has stalked me on irc
as well. not sure why i am his target but he also defended moronzilla
too which says a lot.
>> it wasn't spam.
>> Yes, it was.
it is stalking by this troll. he will deny it.
as for my being unemployed, one of my businesses is helping others get
employed. kind of ironic for the troll to point at that. i am gainfully
employed by myself and have been for many successful years.
also i replied to tad's post since i wish to not even be associated with
this troll by having any of his headers or attributions here.
uri
--
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----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------
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--------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com ---------
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:03:44 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <EpKjl.4417$Kr1.4154@newsfe13.iad>
Cliff MacGillivray wrote:
> Uri Guttman wrote:
>>>>>>> "CM" == Cliff MacGillivray <cliff@excite.com> writes:
>>
>> CM> Uri Guttman wrote:
>> >>>>>>> "TJM" == Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> writes:
>> TJM> Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >> Can anyone recommend places (websites) or agencies I should
>> >> >> be contacting, where Perl experience is an advantage rather
>> >> >> than a deadweight?
>> TJM> http://jobs.perl.org
>> >> also the london perl monger's manage their own jobs list so you
>> >> would get more a more focused group. and i know several UK
>> >> hackers who might be available. but maybe hiring in 2 months is
>> >> not useful immediately. as for placement agencies, i am the only
>> >> one in the world that is 100%
>> >> dedicated to SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM you
>> >> have been talking to useless agents who do buzzword matching.
>> CM> abuse complaint sent
>>
>> sent to whom and about what?
> If you knew anything about usenet you would know that your message
> headers contain an "abuse@" address to direct complaints of this
> nature. In your case, "abuse@albasani.net".
>
> it wasn't spam.
> Yes, it was. As is that crap you have at the bottom of your messages
> advertising your various scams.
> I find it more than mildly ironic that a morbidly obese chronically
> unemployed person is advertising both a recruiting service AND hot
> cocoa!
>
>> i was just telling him that
>> there are agents who do understand perl and the perl job market. i
>> just happen to be the only one. bfd. if i posted stuff here all the
>> time about it, it would be spam.
> At the bottom of all of your posts is not considered "All the Time"
> !?!?
You've done a poor job of selecting this newsgroup to try and defame
Uri. He's pretty well respected and known here. He's not a spammer,
nor is a usenet signature. He offers a site and method to help people
gain employment, that was the question, that was why he also posted
that information. Trust me, your efforts here are not going to go over
well with the community or win you any support.
--
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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:08:44 +0100
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: good email parser ??
Message-Id: <slrngoueuc.nir.hjp-usenet2@hrunkner.hjp.at>
On 2009-02-07 23:59, Jack <jack_posemsky@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi I havent had any luck with the CPAN email modules, I just want to
> parse multipart and mime and base64, with all the varieties of email
> files out there, these modules just dont work...
MIME::Parser works for me. It is a bit slow and tends to use ridiculuous
amounts of memory if you want to avoid temporary files, but I have yet
to find a (syntactically correct) email which can't parse.
hp
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:18:40 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: Perl vs. .NET (was: Re: Programmers (UK)...?)
Message-Id: <01quo4pqooaqioucl4bkvq4huo6gea9q5t@4ax.com>
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:33:52 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>cartercc wrote:
>
>> I've taught Perl and VB on a post-secondary level, and
>> I have observed that a group of students (not university level or
>> computer scientists, but ordinary young people) can do quite a bit
>> more after a quarter of VB than after a quarter of Perl.
>
>No offense, but how are you qualified to judge this, let alone to teach
>it, when you're here on this group the last couple of months asking
>very basic questions and still posting with questions that result from
>you still not using what you've been taught here? I'm not trying to be
>mean, and maybe you can code fine in VB or other languages, but what
>you've demonstrated about your lack of Perl knowledge doesn't really
>fairly and accurately portray what amount people could know and use,
>had they been taught by someone more qualified. I'm not attacking you,
>but I find your claims of Perl comparisons without merit, based on
>these reasons.
Educate him Tim, hahahaa !!
- sln
No offense, but how are you qualified to judge this,
let alone teach it? I'm not trying to be mean, but what
you've demostrated about your lack of Perl knowledge makes
all the posters here double over in laughter.
I'm not attacking you btw, just constructive criticism.
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:54:52 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: Perl vs. .NET (was: Re: Programmers (UK)...?)
Message-Id: <kiruo4d81o08f7ihoonc6rgtfa6hn71klp@4ax.com>
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:03:05 -0800 (PST), cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 7, 3:23 pm, "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+use...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> cartercc wrote:
>> > I've had some
>> > recent experience programming in .NET, and while it's true that you
>> > can do bunches of things in .NET that you can't do in Perl, it's also
>> > true that you can do bunches of things in Perl that you can't do
>> > in .NET. But of course you already know that.
>>
>> Can you give examples? In my view there aren't any.
>>
>> --
>> Ruud
>
>When I say .NET, I'm referring to the whole shootin' match, Visual
>Studio and all. I've taught Perl and VB on a post-secondary level, and
>I have observed that a group of students (not university level or
>computer scientists, but ordinary young people) can do quite a bit
>more after a quarter of VB than after a quarter of Perl. Also,
>building Windows apps is a lot easier with all the Microsoft libraries
>that attempted to do it with Perl. In fact, if I were building a
>Windows app, I wouldn't even consider using Perl -- Visual Studio
>makes it pretty easy.
I think that Perl is relageted to the, pardon my [_fill_in_blank_],
Aplication AFTERMARKET in Windows, and FIRST TIER in Unix.
That tells you what the focus is for Perl. Imagine doing Windows database
operations in Perl. What a joke, total hillarity.
Imagine doing anything in Perl in Windows, anything. It doesen't exist.
Unix has a need, all it does is web pages, %90 of the crap is web-pages.
You wouldn't use Perl for data-mining... not you wouldn't.
Btw, did Microsoft extend MFC to version 8 like they said they would ?
-sln
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:05:12 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: Perl vs. .NET (was: Re: Programmers (UK)...?)
Message-Id: <ZqKjl.4418$Kr1.4408@newsfe13.iad>
sln@netherlands.com wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:33:52 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
> wrote:
>
>>cartercc wrote:
>>
>>> I've taught Perl and VB on a post-secondary level, and
>>> I have observed that a group of students (not university level or
>>> computer scientists, but ordinary young people) can do quite a bit
>>> more after a quarter of VB than after a quarter of Perl.
>>
>>No offense, but how are you qualified to judge this, let alone to
>>teach it, when you're here on this group the last couple of months
>>asking very basic questions and still posting with questions that
>>result from
>>you still not using what you've been taught here? I'm not trying to
>>be mean, and maybe you can code fine in VB or other languages, but
>>what you've demonstrated about your lack of Perl knowledge doesn't
>>really fairly and accurately portray what amount people could know and
>>use,
>>had they been taught by someone more qualified. I'm not attacking
>>you, but I find your claims of Perl comparisons without merit, based
>>on these reasons.
>
> Educate him Tim, hahahaa !!
For a fee, sure.
> - sln
> No offense, but how are you qualified to judge this,
> let alone teach it? I'm not trying to be mean, but what
> you've demostrated about your lack of Perl knowledge makes
> all the posters here double over in laughter.
> I'm not attacking you btw, just constructive criticism.
Talking to yourself again?
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:10:04 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: Perl vs. .NET (was: Re: Programmers (UK)...?)
Message-Id: <AvKjl.8774$E67.5133@newsfe12.iad>
sln@netherlands.com wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:03:05 -0800 (PST), cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 7, 3:23Â pm, "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+use...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>> cartercc wrote:
>>> > I've had some
>>> > recent experience programming in .NET, and while it's true that
>>> > you can do bunches of things in .NET that you can't do in Perl,
>>> > it's also true that you can do bunches of things in Perl that you
>>> > can't do in .NET. But of course you already know that.
>>>
>>> Can you give examples? In my view there aren't any.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ruud
>>
>>When I say .NET, I'm referring to the whole shootin' match, Visual
>>Studio and all. I've taught Perl and VB on a post-secondary level, and
>>I have observed that a group of students (not university level or
>>computer scientists, but ordinary young people) can do quite a bit
>>more after a quarter of VB than after a quarter of Perl. Also,
>>building Windows apps is a lot easier with all the Microsoft libraries
>>that attempted to do it with Perl. In fact, if I were building a
>>Windows app, I wouldn't even consider using Perl -- Visual Studio
>>makes it pretty easy.
>
> I think that Perl is relageted to the, pardon my [_fill_in_blank_],
> Aplication AFTERMARKET in Windows, and FIRST TIER in Unix.
>
> That tells you what the focus is for Perl. Imagine doing Windows
> database operations in Perl. What a joke, total hillarity.
How is that much different from doing database operations in any other
languages out there? In my opinion, most people that are Windows
centric in their "coding" are more likely beginners. Unless you get
paid good money to develop Windows applications. I happen to know you
don't and your own "I need a job" posting shows you allegedly
specialize in languages and frameworks that work better on non Windows
operating systems. Ironic.
> Imagine doing anything in Perl in Windows, anything.
I'm imagining... I see no problems. Would it be my first choice? Not
likely, but I would take any job before I had to develop for Windows in
any language.
> It doesen't
> exist.
What doesn't exist? Perl, Perl for Windows or things written in Perl
for Windows that "do stuff". I'm pretty sure all of those things
exist. What doesn't exist?
> Unix has a need, all it does is web pages, %90 of the crap is
> web-pages.
You think *nix is about web pages?
> You wouldn't use Perl for data-mining... not you wouldn't.
Why not? Don't you know how to?
> Btw, did Microsoft extend MFC to version 8 like they said they would ?
Shouldn't you know, Windows user?
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:18:59 +0000
From: Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <jb2466xqn6.ln2@news.roaima.co.uk>
cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. Advertise for programmers, Perl or otherwise.
> 2. Don't fall into the need-to-know trap. A competent programmer who
> doesn't know Perl will do you a lot more good in the long run that an
> incompetent programmer that does know Perl.
> 3. Realize that the Perl world has different parts, and that domain
> knowledge is just as important as language knowledge if not more so. A
> Perl data munger won't help you with Perl sys admin -- hire a sys
> admin even if his knowledge of Perl is rudimentary.
> 4. You should be looking for a competent programmer with domain
> knowledge, rather than someone who knows Perl. Ideally you would find
> a competent programmer who possesses both domain knowledge and Perl.
I've recently recruited another programmer, and coming from a technical
background I do understand these recommendations. (I make them to
others.)
On the other hand, for the specific requirement I have in mind, I need
an experienced Perl programmer. PHP or Ruby won't do (but they would be
very nice adjuncts). Domain knowledge is unlikely, so that will have to
be taught regardless of technical skills.
Thanks to all those of you who took the time to provide some suggestions
and useful feedback. It's nice to return to CLPM after a break of a year
or three (?) and find that much of the helpfulness is still here.
Chris
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:39:40 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: Programmers (UK)...?
Message-Id: <biquo4hfd64nbtl157m6bvtvjhk56b0go6@4ax.com>
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:18:59 +0000, Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote:
>cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 1. Advertise for programmers, Perl or otherwise.
>> 2. Don't fall into the need-to-know trap. A competent programmer who
>> doesn't know Perl will do you a lot more good in the long run that an
>> incompetent programmer that does know Perl.
>> 3. Realize that the Perl world has different parts, and that domain
>> knowledge is just as important as language knowledge if not more so. A
>> Perl data munger won't help you with Perl sys admin -- hire a sys
>> admin even if his knowledge of Perl is rudimentary.
>> 4. You should be looking for a competent programmer with domain
>> knowledge, rather than someone who knows Perl. Ideally you would find
>> a competent programmer who possesses both domain knowledge and Perl.
>
>I've recently recruited another programmer, and coming from a technical
>background I do understand these recommendations. (I make them to
>others.)
>
>On the other hand, for the specific requirement I have in mind, I need
>an experienced Perl programmer. PHP or Ruby won't do (but they would be
>very nice adjuncts). Domain knowledge is unlikely, so that will have to
>be taught regardless of technical skills.
>
>
>Thanks to all those of you who took the time to provide some suggestions
>and useful feedback. It's nice to return to CLPM after a break of a year
>or three (?) and find that much of the helpfulness is still here.
>
>Chris
Your adjectively offensive. You are involved in hiring people ?
I don't think so pal. To troll this group or any group for advice,
in that regard, shows your stripes.
Tell me. What is the average length of employment for programmers,
any country? Explain the definition of full-time and benifits.
PHP and Ruby won't do, but they would be very nice, what; 'adjuncts'?
Your an abomination who doesen't know its ass from its elbow, has no
street cread and a total whack-off, period !!
- sln
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:02:37 -0500
From: blue indigo <blue.indigo@uatel.com.nospam.bogus.invalid.invalid.invalid>
Subject: Re: programming by evolution?
Message-Id: <pan.2009.02.08.21.02.37.336625@uatel.com.nospam.bogus.invalid.invalid.invalid>
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:32:21 +0100, Pascal Costanza wrote:
> Xah Lee wrote:
>> Pascal Constanza is a Common Lisp fanatic.
>
> It's Costanza, not Constanza.
>
>
> Thank you,
> Pascal
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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:06:39 +0100
From: "Thomas Steinbach" <steinbach@gmx-topmail.de>
Subject: win32 perl compiling problem
Message-Id: <gmnhr6$6ft$00$1@news.t-online.com>
Hello NG,
I got an error if I try to compile perl with mingw (Vista)
btw: no problems with VS2008SP1 but mingw doesn't work.
---messagebox---
generate_uudmap.exe has stopped working
---messageend---
but don't know how to fix the error.
at the command line I got the messages
---snip---
..\generate_uudmap.exe >..\uudmap.h
dmake.exe: Error code 133, while making '..\uudmap.h'
dmake.exe: '..\uudmap.h' removed.
---snap---
Does anybody know what this error mean and
what I can do to get this compiling?
Thomas
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