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Today's topics:
Re: Function Application is not Currying sln@netherlands.com
Re: Function Application is not Currying <wuwei23@gmail.com>
Re: Function Application is not Currying <kkylheku@gmail.com>
Re: Function Application is not Currying <Russ.Paielli@gmail.com>
Re: Function Application is not Currying <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute sln@netherlands.com
Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute sln@netherlands.com
Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
Re: Is syswrite faster or print <No_4@dsl.pipex.com>
Re: Is syswrite faster or print <uri@stemsystems.com>
Re: Is syswrite faster or print <someone@example.com>
MIME:Lite email address issue <edMbj@aes-intl.com>
Re: Perl Peeves <whynot@pozharski.name>
Re: problem using memoize in folder where a module Conf sln@netherlands.com
Re: Regex for <option> ... </option> <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Re: Regex for <option> ... </option> sln@netherlands.com
Re: Which is faster - hash or array lookup sln@netherlands.com
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:17:13 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: Function Application is not Currying
Message-Id: <7lp1o4dhnesn9uflq1nv1hrui4ke0mpd9d@4ax.com>
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:32:29 -0800 (PST), Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote:
>Function Application is not Currying
>
>Xah Lee, 2009-01-28
>
>In Jon Harrop's book Ocaml for Scientist at
>http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/chapter1.html
>
>It says:
>
> Currying
>
> A curried function is a function which returns a function as its
>result.
>
Curry, is that like chicken soup or some Indian mash?
Why ? How about returning an index number into an array of function pointers
as handlers from packet data?
Oh, thats network communications.
sln
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:28:22 -0800 (PST)
From: alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Function Application is not Currying
Message-Id: <8837ddd8-1c53-4f13-b659-d75e0c0c04f7@r15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
On Jan 29, 7:32=A0am, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But he is really a asshole, and
> take every chance to peddle his book.
As opposed to really being an asshole and peddling one's website at
every opportunity?
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:49:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: Kaz Kylheku <kkylheku@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Function Application is not Currying
Message-Id: <20090203171740.143@gmail.com>
On 2009-01-28, Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote:
> Function Application is not Currying
That's correct, Xah. Currying is a special case of function application.
A currying function is applied to some other function, and returns function
that has fewer arguments.
In some languages, you don't see the currying function. It's invisibly
performed whenever you forget an argument. Hit a three argument function with
only two arguments, and you don't get a nice ``insufficient arguments in
function call'' error, but the call is diverted to the currying function, which
gives you back a function of one argument, which you can then call with the
missing argument to compute the original function.
> Xah Lee, 2009-01-28
>
> In Jon Harrop's book Ocaml for Scientist at
> http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists/chapter1.html
Figures you'd be reading this. Learning anything?
> It says:
>
> Currying
>
> A curried function is a function which returns a function as its
> result.
>
> LOL. That is incorrect.
Yawn. Say it isn't so.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:14:02 -0800 (PST)
From: "Russ P." <Russ.Paielli@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Function Application is not Currying
Message-Id: <5d34610d-5a70-4851-8e24-6a86230edaaf@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
On Jan 28, 1:32=A0pm, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Function Application is not Currying
>
> Xah Lee, 2009-01-28
>
> In Jon Harrop's book Ocaml for Scientist athttp://www.ffconsultancy.com/p=
roducts/ocaml_for_scientists/chapter1.html
>
> It says:
>
> =A0 =A0 Currying
>
> =A0 =A0 A curried function is a function which returns a function as its
> result.
>
> LOL. That is incorrect.
What does that have to do with the price of bananas in Costa Rica?
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:31:07 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: Function Application is not Currying
Message-Id: <0q9gl.109224$zJ2.519@newsfe23.iad>
Russ P. wrote:
> On Jan 28, 1:32 pm, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Function Application is not Currying
>>
>> Xah Lee, 2009-01-28
>>
>> In Jon Harrop's book Ocaml for Scientist
>> athttp://www......./chapter1.html
>>
>> It says:
>>
>> Currying
>>
>> A curried function is a function which returns a function as its
>> result.
>>
>> LOL. That is incorrect.
>
> What does that have to do with the price of bananas in Costa Rica?
Xah Lee does this stuff in 4 or 5 groups he's decided to post random
things to. They rarely have any relevance or substance, just his
personal thoughts. He liked to provoke arguing and tell everyone he's
a genius in his own mind. It's best to just filter his posts out like
most of us have already done. I don't know what group you're seeing
his post in, but he bugs us in the Perl group all the time, cross
posting things that have nothing to do with Perl (same with his cross
posts to Python, too). :-)
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:11:58 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute only. Full-Time. Regex/XML/Database/Parsing(et all) Expert. Will work for 60k the first year guaranteed !!
Message-Id: <gD5gl.58849$2o3.8606@newsfe10.iad>
sln@netherlands.com wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:33:58 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
> wrote:
>
>>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>
>>> $txt = "i need a job rast";
>>> $txt =~ s/rast/fast/;
>>
>>No my? No $txt =~ s/f(ast)/r$1/; or something more interesting?
>>
>>> Perl related.
>>
>>How is this Perl related?
>>
>>> Extensive experience,
>>
> [snip]
>>Or do you think only Perl
>>has regular expressions and only Perl does parsing? What qualifies
>>you as an expert?
>>
> I am the most creative regular expression artist you will have the
> privelage to ever see. It comes from 25 years of parsing text,
> starting in assembly.
>
> Where is that job description? I'm rolling on the floor laughing !!
>
> sln
I wouldn't say reading your rude arguments on a newsgroup about how
smart you think you are is somehow a good basis to say it's a
"privilege" to read any of your (what you call) "art".
Honestly, I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm pretty good with regular
expressions and I can't say your contributions have given me an
impression of you being anymore than a beginner.
Your attitude sucks, and it's because you think you're a lot smarter
than you actually are. It would be somewhat bearable if you were
actually pretty skilled in the areas you think you are, but you're
not... so it's just sad.
Again, I'm not trying to be mean, but if you weren't so rude and vulgar
and combative with everyone on this group and stopped trying to push
your old, broken ass regex engine on people, especially when it's not
even relevant to the original topic, it might win you more respect. I
just can't accept that you're some "regex guru" when you don't even
know when to use the /x modifier.
Calm down, be respectful and friendly and even when you're wrong, you'll
find there's no need to argue with people and people will show respect
in response. Just thinking you're the smartest person in the group,
especially without merit, is not a replacement for actually having
skills in the areas you like to claim.
Please understand, I'm not calling you out or trying to embarrass you,
I'm simply making a point. You've made up your mind that you'll
continue to post in this group regardless of being right or wrong, so
whatever motivating reason drives you to post here, if you just show
some respect and humility, instead of arguing and insisting about
things you clearly lack skills in, it would go a long way. Not that I
think you'll care, but there it is.
--
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Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Dedicated & Semi-Dedicated servers
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------------------------------
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:43:50 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute only. Full-Time. Regex/XML/Database/Parsing(et all) Expert. Will work for 60k the first year guaranteed !!
Message-Id: <54r1o4dc0r5pr88gr686h0daba8g3b9e54@4ax.com>
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:11:58 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:33:58 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> $txt = "i need a job rast";
>>>> $txt =~ s/rast/fast/;
>>>
>>>No my? No $txt =~ s/f(ast)/r$1/; or something more interesting?
>>>
>>>> Perl related.
>>>
>>>How is this Perl related?
>>>
>>>> Extensive experience,
>>>
>> [snip]
>>>Or do you think only Perl
>>>has regular expressions and only Perl does parsing? What qualifies
>>>you as an expert?
>>>
>> I am the most creative regular expression artist you will have the
>> privelage to ever see. It comes from 25 years of parsing text,
>> starting in assembly.
>>
>> Where is that job description? I'm rolling on the floor laughing !!
>>
>> sln
>
>I wouldn't say reading your rude arguments on a newsgroup about how
>smart you think you are is somehow a good basis to say it's a
>"privilege" to read any of your (what you call) "art".
>
>Honestly, I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm pretty good with regular
>expressions and I can't say your contributions have given me an
>impression of you being anymore than a beginner.
>
>Your attitude sucks, and it's because you think you're a lot smarter
>than you actually are. It would be somewhat bearable if you were
>actually pretty skilled in the areas you think you are, but you're
>not... so it's just sad.
>
>Again, I'm not trying to be mean, but if you weren't so rude and vulgar
>and combative with everyone on this group and stopped trying to push
>your old, broken ass regex engine on people, especially when it's not
>even relevant to the original topic, it might win you more respect. I
>just can't accept that you're some "regex guru" when you don't even
>know when to use the /x modifier.
>
>Calm down, be respectful and friendly and even when you're wrong, you'll
>find there's no need to argue with people and people will show respect
>in response. Just thinking you're the smartest person in the group,
>especially without merit, is not a replacement for actually having
>skills in the areas you like to claim.
>
>Please understand, I'm not calling you out or trying to embarrass you,
>I'm simply making a point. You've made up your mind that you'll
>continue to post in this group regardless of being right or wrong, so
>whatever motivating reason drives you to post here, if you just show
>some respect and humility, instead of arguing and insisting about
>things you clearly lack skills in, it would go a long way. Not that I
>think you'll care, but there it is.
I won't say: "hey you mindless fucking dope" or anything else like;
"have you had your head extracted from your ass lately", nor anything that
may make me not humble to your gods.
No, I won't say any of that. What I will say is that its amazing that technology
advances even with people like you around.
Wrap that in your pipe and smoke it !!
sln
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:40:33 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute only. Full-Time. Regex/XML/Database/Parsing(et all) Expert. Will work for 60k the first year guaranteed !!
Message-Id: <dW6gl.58858$2o3.29155@newsfe10.iad>
sln@netherlands.com wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:11:58 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
> wrote:
>
>>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:33:58 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> $txt = "i need a job rast";
>>>>> $txt =~ s/rast/fast/;
>>>>
>>>>No my? No $txt =~ s/f(ast)/r$1/; or something more interesting?
>>>>
>>>>> Perl related.
>>>>
>>>>How is this Perl related?
>>>>
>>>>> Extensive experience,
>>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>>Or do you think only Perl
>>>>has regular expressions and only Perl does parsing? What qualifies
>>>>you as an expert?
>>>>
>>> I am the most creative regular expression artist you will have the
>>> privelage to ever see. It comes from 25 years of parsing text,
>>> starting in assembly.
>>>
>>> Where is that job description? I'm rolling on the floor laughing !!
>>>
>>> sln
>>
>>I wouldn't say reading your rude arguments on a newsgroup about how
>>smart you think you are is somehow a good basis to say it's a
>>"privilege" to read any of your (what you call) "art".
>>
>>Honestly, I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm pretty good with regular
>>expressions and I can't say your contributions have given me an
>>impression of you being anymore than a beginner.
>>
>>Your attitude sucks, and it's because you think you're a lot smarter
>>than you actually are. It would be somewhat bearable if you were
>>actually pretty skilled in the areas you think you are, but you're
>>not... so it's just sad.
>>
>>Again, I'm not trying to be mean, but if you weren't so rude and
>>vulgar and combative with everyone on this group and stopped trying to
>>push your old, broken ass regex engine on people, especially when it's
>>not
>>even relevant to the original topic, it might win you more respect. I
>>just can't accept that you're some "regex guru" when you don't even
>>know when to use the /x modifier.
>>
>>Calm down, be respectful and friendly and even when you're wrong,
>>you'll find there's no need to argue with people and people will show
>>respect
>>in response. Just thinking you're the smartest person in the group,
>>especially without merit, is not a replacement for actually having
>>skills in the areas you like to claim.
>>
>>Please understand, I'm not calling you out or trying to embarrass you,
>>I'm simply making a point. You've made up your mind that you'll
>>continue to post in this group regardless of being right or wrong, so
>>whatever motivating reason drives you to post here, if you just show
>>some respect and humility, instead of arguing and insisting about
>>things you clearly lack skills in, it would go a long way. Not that I
>>think you'll care, but there it is.
>
> I won't say: "hey you mindless fucking dope" or anything else like;
> "have you had your head extracted from your ass lately", nor anything
> that may make me not humble to your gods.
>
> No, I won't say any of that. What I will say is that its amazing that
> technology advances even with people like you around.
>
> Wrap that in your pipe and smoke it !!
>
> sln
Humble before what gods? Just have some respect and act like a civil
person, is all I was suggesting. What's amazing to me, is when
someone's lacking in intellect and they happen to always be the one
that thinks they are smarter and thus act so aggressively. No matter
what someone points out, they lash back and refuse to accept the
reality. Out of all of those facts, the person still thinks they are
smarter. It's ironic, sad and absolutely misplaced. That said, by all
means, continue to embarrass yourself, but don't sit around wondering
why you're unable to get work and have to resort to posting off topic
threads begging for a job, and still don't get one.
--
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------------------------------
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:12:25 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute only. Full-Time. Regex/XML/Database/Parsing(et all) Expert. Will work for 60k the first year guaranteed !!
Message-Id: <v902o4tadj8arquojp09qhv3ks3fr63auf@4ax.com>
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:40:33 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:11:58 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:33:58 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> $txt = "i need a job rast";
>>>>>> $txt =~ s/rast/fast/;
>>>>>
>>>>>No my? No $txt =~ s/f(ast)/r$1/; or something more interesting?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Perl related.
>>>>>
>>>>>How is this Perl related?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Extensive experience,
>>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>>Or do you think only Perl
>>>>>has regular expressions and only Perl does parsing? What qualifies
>>>>>you as an expert?
>>>>>
>>>> I am the most creative regular expression artist you will have the
>>>> privelage to ever see. It comes from 25 years of parsing text,
>>>> starting in assembly.
>>>>
>>>> Where is that job description? I'm rolling on the floor laughing !!
>>>>
>>>> sln
>>>
>>>I wouldn't say reading your rude arguments on a newsgroup about how
>>>smart you think you are is somehow a good basis to say it's a
>>>"privilege" to read any of your (what you call) "art".
>>>
>>>Honestly, I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm pretty good with regular
>>>expressions and I can't say your contributions have given me an
>>>impression of you being anymore than a beginner.
>>>
>>>Your attitude sucks, and it's because you think you're a lot smarter
>>>than you actually are. It would be somewhat bearable if you were
>>>actually pretty skilled in the areas you think you are, but you're
>>>not... so it's just sad.
>>>
>>>Again, I'm not trying to be mean, but if you weren't so rude and
>>>vulgar and combative with everyone on this group and stopped trying to
>>>push your old, broken ass regex engine on people, especially when it's
>>>not
>>>even relevant to the original topic, it might win you more respect. I
>>>just can't accept that you're some "regex guru" when you don't even
>>>know when to use the /x modifier.
>>>
>>>Calm down, be respectful and friendly and even when you're wrong,
>>>you'll find there's no need to argue with people and people will show
>>>respect
>>>in response. Just thinking you're the smartest person in the group,
>>>especially without merit, is not a replacement for actually having
>>>skills in the areas you like to claim.
>>>
>>>Please understand, I'm not calling you out or trying to embarrass you,
>>>I'm simply making a point. You've made up your mind that you'll
>>>continue to post in this group regardless of being right or wrong, so
>>>whatever motivating reason drives you to post here, if you just show
>>>some respect and humility, instead of arguing and insisting about
>>>things you clearly lack skills in, it would go a long way. Not that I
>>>think you'll care, but there it is.
>>
>> I won't say: "hey you mindless fucking dope" or anything else like;
>> "have you had your head extracted from your ass lately", nor anything
>> that may make me not humble to your gods.
>>
>> No, I won't say any of that. What I will say is that its amazing that
>> technology advances even with people like you around.
>>
>> Wrap that in your pipe and smoke it !!
>>
>> sln
>
>Humble before what gods? Just have some respect and act like a civil
>person, is all I was suggesting.
[snip]
No, your not suggesting, as your 10 or 20th suggestion has gone with reply's
like "Get your head out of your ass moron" !!
There is no inkling of intelligence I can ellict from you, so I stopped trying.
You have a serious mental defficency, I assume your retarded, and I have no
problem with that. So I will just keep replying and stick the knife in a different
spot each time.
Good luck with the therapy.
sln
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:13:44 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute only. Full-Time. Regex/XML/Database/Parsing(et all) Expert. Will work for 60k the first year guaranteed !!
Message-Id: <sh8gl.48189$1L3.9439@newsfe20.iad>
sln@netherlands.com wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:40:33 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
> wrote:
>
>>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:11:58 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:33:58 -0800, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $txt = "i need a job rast";
>>>>>>> $txt =~ s/rast/fast/;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No my? No $txt =~ s/f(ast)/r$1/; or something more interesting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perl related.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How is this Perl related?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Extensive experience,
>>>>>>
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>Or do you think only Perl
>>>>>>has regular expressions and only Perl does parsing? What
>>>>>>qualifies you as an expert?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I am the most creative regular expression artist you will have the
>>>>> privelage to ever see. It comes from 25 years of parsing text,
>>>>> starting in assembly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is that job description? I'm rolling on the floor laughing
>>>>> !!
>>>>>
>>>>> sln
>>>>
>>>>I wouldn't say reading your rude arguments on a newsgroup about how
>>>>smart you think you are is somehow a good basis to say it's a
>>>>"privilege" to read any of your (what you call) "art".
>>>>
>>>>Honestly, I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm pretty good with
>>>>regular expressions and I can't say your contributions have given me
>>>>an impression of you being anymore than a beginner.
>>>>
>>>>Your attitude sucks, and it's because you think you're a lot smarter
>>>>than you actually are. It would be somewhat bearable if you were
>>>>actually pretty skilled in the areas you think you are, but you're
>>>>not... so it's just sad.
>>>>
>>>>Again, I'm not trying to be mean, but if you weren't so rude and
>>>>vulgar and combative with everyone on this group and stopped trying
>>>>to push your old, broken ass regex engine on people, especially when
>>>>it's not
>>>>even relevant to the original topic, it might win you more respect.
>>>>I just can't accept that you're some "regex guru" when you don't
>>>>even know when to use the /x modifier.
>>>>
>>>>Calm down, be respectful and friendly and even when you're wrong,
>>>>you'll find there's no need to argue with people and people will
>>>>show respect
>>>>in response. Just thinking you're the smartest person in the group,
>>>>especially without merit, is not a replacement for actually having
>>>>skills in the areas you like to claim.
>>>>
>>>>Please understand, I'm not calling you out or trying to embarrass
>>>>you,
>>>>I'm simply making a point. You've made up your mind that you'll
>>>>continue to post in this group regardless of being right or wrong,
>>>>so whatever motivating reason drives you to post here, if you just
>>>>show some respect and humility, instead of arguing and insisting
>>>>about
>>>>things you clearly lack skills in, it would go a long way. Not that
>>>>I think you'll care, but there it is.
>>>
>>> I won't say: "hey you mindless fucking dope" or anything else like;
>>> "have you had your head extracted from your ass lately", nor
>>> anything that may make me not humble to your gods.
>>>
>>> No, I won't say any of that. What I will say is that its amazing
>>> that technology advances even with people like you around.
>>>
>>> Wrap that in your pipe and smoke it !!
>>>
>>> sln
>>
>>Humble before what gods? Just have some respect and act like a civil
>>person, is all I was suggesting.
> [snip]
> No, your not suggesting, as your 10 or 20th suggestion has gone with
> reply's like "Get your head out of your ass moron" !!
Only your replies contain such things, which is the point.
> There is no inkling of intelligence I can ellict from you, so I
> stopped trying.
I dare not try and hope I can get through to you. Dare I suggest you
aren't as smart as you think, and definitely lack any basis to be so
vulgar and rude in your activity here in this group.
> You have a serious mental defficency, I assume your retarded, and I
> have no problem with that. So I will just keep replying and stick the
> knife in a different spot each time.
>
> Good luck with the therapy.
>
> sln
As hard as you try, your problems are not my problems. Please, invest
in a mirror.
PS: Get a job from this thread yet? Yeah, that's what I thought. You
can blame me for your lack of employment as well. I guess that makes
me unemployed in your mind, too. :-) Try and keep up.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:41:57 -0800
From: Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
Subject: Re: I need a job in C/C++/Perl immediately. Telecomute only. Full-Time. Regex/XML/Database/Parsing(et all) Expert. Will work for 60k the first year guaranteed !!
Message-Id: <55l756xjvg.ln2@goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
On 2009-01-29, Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>
> As hard as you try, your problems are not my problems. Please, invest
> in a mirror.
He is trolling. You are falling for it. If you stop feeding him
perhaps he'll go away (or at least post less frequently).
--keith
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:22:52 +0000
From: Big and Blue <No_4@dsl.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: Is syswrite faster or print
Message-Id: <MaidnbT5MfdxmRzUnZ2dnUVZ8jKdnZ2d@pipex.net>
saurabh hirani wrote:
> Why shouldn't I? The faster my log method is, the earlier I return and
> get control back to my main programs.
fork() an let the child do the logging. If you have multiple cores
this will speed things up.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:27:08 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: Is syswrite faster or print
Message-Id: <x71vumaltv.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "BaB" == Big and Blue <No_4@dsl.pipex.com> writes:
BaB> saurabh hirani wrote:
>> Why shouldn't I? The faster my log method is, the earlier I return and
>> get control back to my main programs.
BaB> fork() an let the child do the logging. If you have multiple cores
BaB> this will speed things up.
logging is typically more i/o than cpu so forking is not a
solution. would you fork for each log entry to be written? would you
want the logger and main program to communicate? then you have another
bottleneck. if you want the logging to be synchronous and in order you
can't delegate it or fork it as you lose control then.
to the OP:
print vs syswrite is not a proper decision as they do different
things. if you turn off buffering with autoflush then you reduce print
to being syswrite but with more overhead. as for worrying about logging
speed, that is a case of premature optimization. use a log module if you
really care. worry about the important stuff, not nits like log speed
uri
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:53:08 -0800
From: "John W. Krahn" <someone@example.com>
Subject: Re: Is syswrite faster or print
Message-Id: <UCagl.17183$8O.5123@newsfe06.iad>
Uri Guttman wrote:
>>>>>> "BaB" == Big and Blue <No_4@dsl.pipex.com> writes:
>
> BaB> saurabh hirani wrote:
> >> Why shouldn't I? The faster my log method is, the earlier I return and
> >> get control back to my main programs.
>
> BaB> fork() an let the child do the logging. If you have multiple cores
> BaB> this will speed things up.
>
> logging is typically more i/o than cpu so forking is not a
> solution. would you fork for each log entry to be written? would you
> want the logger and main program to communicate? then you have another
> bottleneck. if you want the logging to be synchronous and in order you
> can't delegate it or fork it as you lose control then.
>
> to the OP:
>
> print vs syswrite is not a proper decision as they do different
> things. if you turn off buffering with autoflush then you reduce print
> to being syswrite but with more overhead.
You can't turn off buffering with autoflush.
man 3 setvbuf
man 3 fflush
> as for worrying about logging
> speed, that is a case of premature optimization. use a log module if you
> really care. worry about the important stuff, not nits like log speed
John
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:59:36 -0800
From: Ed Jay <edMbj@aes-intl.com>
Subject: MIME:Lite email address issue
Message-Id: <cfd2o4pklcupic5raq4ucm3ijpdruc928c@4ax.com>
I'm using MIME::Lite to send an email with an attachment. It works fine,
except for one detail. Unless I use a specific email address, the email
and attachment are not delivered. To wit:
I use From => $rpt_email,
For $rpt_email = ed@example.com, the email is delivered. example.com is
NOT the domain in which the script resides.
For $rpt_email = something@example2.com, the email is not delivered.
example2.com is the domain hosting the script.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:49:44 +0200
From: Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name>
Subject: Re: Perl Peeves
Message-Id: <slrngo1o88.tns.whynot@orphan.zombinet>
On 2009-01-28, Chris Mattern <syscjm@sumire.gwu.edu> wrote:
> On 2009-01-27, Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>> Tim McDaniel <tmcd@panix.com> wrote:
*SKIP*
>>> Of course, "0+@a" would work as well as "scalar @a", but none of the
>>> choices really look elegant.
>>
>>
>> "scalar @a" seems plenty elegant to me.
>>
>> "short" or "tricky" does not imply "elegant".
>>
> Yes. Contrary to what some people apparently believe, it really isn't
> one of Perl's strengths that working code can look like modem line noise.
(imho) That "modem line noise" is spice for me.
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:22:16 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: problem using memoize in folder where a module Config.pm is
Message-Id: <9vp1o412roldondjvm6fdkkasjgls3c5ju@4ax.com>
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:06:36 -0800 (PST), david <michaelgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>HI all,
>
>I've encountered a strange thing.
>
>I want to use Memoize from a module in a folder where a Module
>Config.pm is and it tells me the following error Global symbol
>"%Config" requires explicit package name at /exlibris/sfx_ver/
>sfx_version_3/app/perl-5.10.0/lib/5.10.0/Memoize.pm line 74.
This line is too long to debug, too complicated, the path to the
.pm makes it sound like its from outer space.
"requires explicit package name" - check if its declard in the scope
of the block. Or, check errors before this one which is giving false
positives.
sln
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:00:09 -0600
From: Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: Regex for <option> ... </option>
Message-Id: <slrngo1sc9.rlg.tadmc@tadmc30.sbcglobal.net>
sln@netherlands.com <sln@netherlands.com> wrote:
> XHTML/XML/SGML and HTML standards are now and have been for quite some time
> defined with REGULAR ESPRESSIONS exclusively.
No they haven't.
They are defined with a context free grammar, not a regular grammar.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:13:20 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: Regex for <option> ... </option>
Message-Id: <dvs1o4lhvdvlslluuhehi4bm4uon31b70t@4ax.com>
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:00:09 -0600, Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote:
>sln@netherlands.com <sln@netherlands.com> wrote:
>
>> XHTML/XML/SGML and HTML standards are now and have been for quite some time
>> defined with REGULAR ESPRESSIONS exclusively.
>
>
>No they haven't.
>
>They are defined with a context free grammar, not a regular grammar.
Right, the syntax of data, including all markup extracticing data, is defined with Regular Expressions,
not what you do with the data in any assumption loaded with stupidity !!! Easily fixed with a
below-average IQ.
sln
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:12:13 GMT
From: sln@netherlands.com
Subject: Re: Which is faster - hash or array lookup
Message-Id: <0cp1o4h716fhf53ev5j7tqosd4ej3glqpa@4ax.com>
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:03:03 +0100, Rasmus Villemoes <burner+usenet@imf.au.dk> wrote:
>Hi
>
>In a program I'm writing, I will need to access the 53130 different
>5-element subsets of 0..24 many many times. So I thought I would
>generate each of these subsets once and for all, using a canonical
>enumeration scheme, and save the result in a global hash or array
>(Concretely, I have generated a file containing lines of the form
>"0:0,1,2,3,4", "1:0,1,2,3,5" etc., which I then read and parse at the
>start of the program, that is, I generate an anonymous array
>[0,1,2,3,4], and then I store a reference to this in $combs{0} or
>$combs[0].)
>
>Now the question is, should I store these in an array or a hash,
>if I want to access a random entry as fast as possible?
Which is faster? The hash bin method or traversing arrays?
I can tell you positively the array is faster when you have 1 element.
Maybe a hybrid, have you thought about that?
sln
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