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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 2086 Volume: 11
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:09:08 -0800 (PST)
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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 30 Dec 2008 Volume: 11 Number: 2086
Today's topics:
Re: Can I drop/create a database with DBI? yairl@savion.huji.ac.il
fail running an external C program into a Perl CGI scri yairl@savion.huji.ac.il
Re: fail running an external C program into a Perl CGI <smallpond@juno.com>
Re: fail running an external C program into a Perl CGI <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: Is there any IDE for perl? <check.sig@for.email.invalid>
Re: Is there any IDE for perl? yairl@savion.huji.ac.il
Re: Is there any IDE for perl? <wahab-mail@gmx.de>
oops <wahab-mail@gmx.de>
Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: tadmc@seesig.invalid
Re: searching for franken <rvtol+usenet@isolution.nl>
Re: searching for franken <wahab-mail@gmx.de>
Re: Unit test that checks for "croak" <rvtol+usenet@isolution.nl>
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:37:29 -0800 (PST)
From: yairl@savion.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: Can I drop/create a database with DBI?
Message-Id: <5d093faa-d991-4ae3-ab7d-11bd665dd990@r36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
On Dec 29, 3:33=A0am, David Filmer <use...@davidfilmer.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to drop/create a database with DBI?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> David Filmer (http://DavidFilmer.com)
> The best way to get a good answer is to ask a good question.
yes, you can but you need the correct database permitions for this. i
do it using DBD::mysql there aren't any problem, when something was
wrong was because i don't have permition to create or drop.
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:59:49 -0800 (PST)
From: yairl@savion.huji.ac.il
Subject: fail running an external C program into a Perl CGI script
Message-Id: <9ba0cd57-96af-4028-9470-65b3ca370357@s9g2000prm.googlegroups.com>
hi,
I 'm trying to execute a small C program into the Perl CGI working
with apache server and it fail . I used `cmd` , sytem, qx( ) , open
orders every thing it doens't work when it run as CGI. The script
works fine if it runs as shell script by hand or cron but the forked
program send "segmentation fault" and it ended with status 35584
(ACCESS VIOLATION) when it runs into CGI mode under apache server or
Sun One webserver. This happened with some C small programs they use
socket to connect some resources outside and return some value to
evaluate. These programs started to fail since perl 5.6 under linux
SuSe 9 ,10 and solaris 8 and 9. The regular OS orders like date, cat ,
cal work fine, I tested it. I don't understand why is happened, what's
wrong they are common C progrmas using the standard C library like
socket lib. Someone know anything about this bug?
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:27:24 -0800 (PST)
From: smallpond <smallpond@juno.com>
Subject: Re: fail running an external C program into a Perl CGI script
Message-Id: <9ca483f8-0127-40d1-90ce-e90d0fc84fed@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com>
On Dec 30, 4:59 am, ya...@savion.huji.ac.il wrote:
> hi,
>
> I 'm trying to execute a small C program into the Perl CGI working
> with apache server and it fail . I used `cmd` , sytem, qx( ) , open
> orders every thing it doens't work when it run as CGI. The script
> works fine if it runs as shell script by hand or cron but the forked
> program send "segmentation fault" and it ended with status 35584
> (ACCESS VIOLATION) when it runs into CGI mode under apache server or
> Sun One webserver. This happened with some C small programs they use
> socket to connect some resources outside and return some value to
> evaluate. These programs started to fail since perl 5.6 under linux
> SuSe 9 ,10 and solaris 8 and 9. The regular OS orders like date, cat ,
> cal work fine, I tested it. I don't understand why is happened, what's
> wrong they are common C progrmas using the standard C library like
> socket lib. Someone know anything about this bug?
Most likely you are trying to execute a program in a directory
or as a user that does not have proper permission. This is
more likely an apache problem than perl. Check httpd.conf.
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 05:54:18 -0800
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: fail running an external C program into a Perl CGI script
Message-Id: <jt9kl411og6tqf3utrtaec94ne5uslickr@4ax.com>
yairl@savion.huji.ac.il wrote:
>I 'm trying to execute a small C program into the Perl CGI working
>with apache server and it fail . I used `cmd` , sytem, qx( ) , open
>orders every thing it doens't work when it run as CGI. The script
>works fine if it runs as shell script by hand or cron but the forked
>program send "segmentation fault" and it ended with status 35584
>(ACCESS VIOLATION) when it runs into CGI mode under apache server or
>Sun One webserver.
You have a close cousin to "Server error 500", see "perldoc -q 500" for
details.
jue
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:03:49 +0200
From: Alex <check.sig@for.email.invalid>
Subject: Re: Is there any IDE for perl?
Message-Id: <2mm6l.111210$_03.74527@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>
George wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:59:04 -0800 (PST), mobile.parmenides@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> My experience concerning the c programming tell me an IED is very
>> important for coding and debugging. Is there perl counterpart?
>
> There's komodo from the activestate people. It costs some money and is
> likely a very effective tool for persons who can afford it.
If you don't *need* the letters "IDE" in the name, you can also try out
the editor "Komodo Edit", which is pretty good, IMHO, and which you can
download for free. Of course, you can try out the trial version of
"Komodo IDE", which has some extra features, which you may like.
Alex
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:31:45 -0800 (PST)
From: yairl@savion.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: Is there any IDE for perl?
Message-Id: <8095e293-a6e6-44e1-8717-3eadc2916f07@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com>
On Dec 29, 2:59=A0pm, mobile.parmeni...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> =A0 =A0My experience concerning the c programming tell me an IED is very
> important for coding and debugging. Is there perl counterpart?
I ussually use emacs with perl mode but in the last years for big
projects i started to use an IDE. I use eclipse with the perl plug ,
it's very good for me. It helps to find quickly objects,
function ,variables into 20 or 30 different files and this was reason
i needed to change the emacs. For small changes i still use emacs, but
when we must make big changes no way , i can't see what happen in
others objects or methods without eclipse. The problem is how to see
the different project's parts in different files working together and
thus avoid bugs....
Untill now there isn't any good emacs module it can do this work .
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:24:21 +0100
From: Mirco Wahab <wahab-mail@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Is there any IDE for perl?
Message-Id: <gjd7j7$gfm$2@mlucom4.urz.uni-halle.de>
sln@netherlands.com wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:04:37 -0700, George <george@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 04:59:04 -0800 (PST), mobile.parmenides@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My experience concerning the c programming tell me an IED is very
>>> important for coding and debugging. Is there perl counterpart?
>> There's komodo from the activestate people. It costs some money and is
>> likely a very effective tool for persons who can afford it.
>>
>> Activestate also has a free perl install for windows that has the
>> all-important package manager. You have to take steps to customize it, and
>> there's no ide. With an interpreted syntax like perl, I actually prefer
>> the command line to the ide. It's not like my projects are large.
>>
>> If there's one thing I miss now that I'm relegated to relying on the free
>> distros, it's a visual debugger like I had back when I used M$.
> And intellisence.
EPIC (http://www.epic-ide.org/index.php) has
intellisense and integrated debugger.
Regards
M.
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:15:39 +0100
From: Mirco Wahab <wahab-mail@gmx.de>
Subject: oops
Message-Id: <gjd72u$gfm$1@mlucom4.urz.uni-halle.de>
Mirco Wahab wrote:
> George wrote:
>> T.J.McC
>>> Mirco Wahab <wahab-mail@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>> while($html =~ /$what/mg) { # note the /m modifier
>>> Note that the /m modifier does absolutely nothing for the pattern
>>> being used, and so is not needed at all.
sorry for
> It prevents the dot from matching across line
> boundaries, as you surely know.
providing BS explanations. Seems like I'm getting old
and/or suffer from missing opportunities to practice
Perl Regex enough (as compared to Boost and PHP).
Thanks for your initial correction,
Mirco
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:07:58 GMT
From: tadmc@seesig.invalid
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.8 $)
Message-Id: <yFk6l.7850$8_3.5390@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com>
Outline
Before posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
Must
- Check the Perl Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
- Check the other standard Perl docs (*.pod)
Really Really Should
- Lurk for a while before posting
- Search a Usenet archive
If You Like
- Check Other Resources
Posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
Is there a better place to ask your question?
- Question should be about Perl, not about the application area
How to participate (post) in the clpmisc community
- Carefully choose the contents of your Subject header
- Use an effective followup style
- Speak Perl rather than English, when possible
- Ask perl to help you
- Do not re-type Perl code
- Provide enough information
- Do not provide too much information
- Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
Social faux pas to avoid
- Asking a Frequently Asked Question
- Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
- Asking for emailed answers
- Beware of saying "doesn't work"
- Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
Be extra cautious when you get upset
- Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
- Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
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post.
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Be extra cautious when you get upset
Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
This is recommended in all Usenet newsgroups. Here in clpmisc, most
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are most often for what was seen as a breach of netiquette. If you
have lurked for a bit, then you will know what is expected and won't
make such posts in the first place.
But if you get upset, wait a while before writing your followup. I
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Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
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email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 10:51:14 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+usenet@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: searching for franken
Message-Id: <4959ef13$0$189$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
George wrote:
> # shebang doesn't work on windows
Stop putting that in your scripts. Start reading the documentation.
In short: the path or even the name of the binary don't matter, but the
options do.
Unless of course you would bind .pl to a shebang.com that would just do
what you once expected.
--
Ruud
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:17:44 +0100
From: Mirco Wahab <wahab-mail@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: searching for franken
Message-Id: <gjd05r$eg9$1@mlucom4.urz.uni-halle.de>
George wrote:
>> Mirco Wahab <wahab-mail@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> while($html =~ /$what/mg) { # note the /m modifier
>> Note that the /m modifier does absolutely nothing for the pattern
>> being used, and so is not needed at all.
It prevents the dot from matching across line
boundaries, as you surely know.
>> You probably meant the /s modifier instead?
not really
> I think this is a significant issue and is where I'm stumbling right now:
George, what you probably intend to do is, as anybody
noted, "web scraping" which has to be applied (in your
case) to some ill structured html source. What I'd use
here is a kind of 'quick and dirty' regular expression
search.
I looked into your html source and conceived something
that does the job somehow. Please try to learn some
basics of regular expressions, eg.: from here:
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781565922570/
my hack on your problem:
use strict;
use warnings;
use LWP::Simple;
# load the complete content of the url in question
# via LWP::Simple::get(...)
my $t = get 'http://www.alfrankensense.com/al_franken_quotes.html';
# inspect the web site and look at what "marker"
# your stuff usually starts, in your case - it's the tag:
# <center>Al Franken Quotes</center>
my @quotes; # array, where the quotes are to be collected
# *If* we got there:
if($t =~ /<center>Al Franken Quotes<\/center>/g) { # the inner / is ecscaped
# then we write a quick & dirty regular expression
# to map on the quote (look in the html for hints)
my $q = qr{ \t # the quote is always preceeded by a tab
"([^"]+)" # find ", save all (saved to $1), to another "
.+? # fine, now look up a '-' followed by whitespace
\-\s+ # which comes here (escaped -) ..
([^<]+) # this has to be the quote source until next html tag
}sx; # the /s lets the .(dot) match across lines
# the /x allows us to format and comment this expression
# apply this expression to the text
while($t=~ /$q/g) { # /g in scalar context (look it up)
push @quotes, [$1, $2]; # save found quote on array
} # quote in $1, source in $2
}
print "total: " . scalar @quotes . " quotes found\n";
for my $q (@quotes) { # now show what quotes we found
print_nice($q->[0], $q->[1]) # and format them however you want
}
# thats it
# we need to provide our special formatting subroutine
sub print_nice {
my($q, $s) = @_; # shift actual arguments into variables
$q =~ s/\s+/ /g; # quote: transfer multiple whitespace to a single space
$q =~ s/<[^>]+>//g; # quote: remove html formatting
$s =~ s/\s+/ /g; # source: same here
$s =~ s/<[^>]+>//g; # source: same here
print "$q" # print quote, followed by ...
. "\n" . '-'x40 ."\n" # new line + 40 x '-' + new line
. "- $s\n\n" # '-' + quote source + double \n
}
Regards
M.
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Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:01:59 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+usenet@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: Unit test that checks for "croak"
Message-Id: <4959f198$0$189$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
Tim Greer wrote:
> sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>> Dr.Ruud:
>>> I promote to test the return value of eval.
>> ^^^^^^^
>> what do you mean?
>
> Probably he promotes that method of doing it, unless it meant propose.
I mean "promote". There are known issues in Perl with $@, like $@
loosing a value, like with DESTROY.
I already proposed @@, so $@[-1] would hold the last one.
And I just hate the decoupled way of "if ($@){}", it is far too distant
for my taste. The Perl compiler needs to do crazy things to try to make
$@ to be about the previous statement (or block) as much as possible.
--
Ruud
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