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Sun Dec 7 09:09:46 2008

Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 06:09:09 -0800 (PST)
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Perl-Users Digest           Sun, 7 Dec 2008     Volume: 11 Number: 2039

Today's topics:
    Re: a simple control in an nntp client <george@example.invalid>
    Re: a simple control in an nntp client <tim@burlyhost.com>
        create own advertising network of partners ... <anubha9903@gmail.com>
    Re: FAQ 8.44 How do I tell the difference between error <whynot@pozharski.name>
    Re: FAQ 8.44 How do I tell the difference between error <whynot@pozharski.name>
        herding ones and zeroes into bytes <george@example.invalid>
    Re: herding ones and zeroes into bytes <tim@burlyhost.com>
    Re: herding ones and zeroes into bytes <george@example.invalid>
    Re: how detect english subject and predicate in a sente <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
        making graph <sukeerthmex@gmail.com>
    Re: making graph <zentara@highstream.net>
        new CPAN modules on Sun Dec  7 2008 (Randal Schwartz)
    Re: Noob trying to understand simple Perl grep statemen (Randal L. Schwartz)
    Re: perl segfault - how to troubleshoot <tim@burlyhost.com>
    Re: perl segfault - how to troubleshoot <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 19:46:35 -0700
From: George <george@example.invalid>
Subject: Re: a simple control in an nntp client
Message-Id: <1lo129j3jz6xy$.zydinus3zljp.dlg@40tude.net>

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:45:19 GMT, sln@netherlands.com wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:33:47 -0700, George <george@example.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:57:42 GMT, sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:13:27 -0700, George <george@example.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>I would like to extend the following script:
>>>>
>>> Have you thought of 'extension' courses?
>>> 
>>> sln
>>
>>No, but your response makes me recall fondly the moments when I used to
>>throw eurotrash around.  Typ.
> 
>>-- 
>>George
>>
>>I believe that God has planted in every heart the desire to live in
>>freedom.
>>George W. Bush
>>
>>Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/
> 
> Typical George W. Bush fan.
> 
> sln

Dutch fuiks think they're so clever and sarcastic and appear not to see
what's funny about me posting as the idiot in chief.

They don't teach perl in continuing education classes around here.  So it
is that I rely on a book and the net, and you've managed to fuck up what
you could of that.

It's true I was a Reagan Youth when I was a European.  With Bush II, we now
see Reagan's folly.
-- 
George

A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about
it.
George W. Bush

Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/


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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:21:08 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: a simple control in an nntp client
Message-Id: <FiH_k.58804$5L3.58519@newsfe09.iad>

George wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:45:19 GMT, sln@netherlands.com wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:33:47 -0700, George <george@example.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:57:42 GMT, sln@netherlands.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:13:27 -0700, George <george@example.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>I would like to extend the following script:
>>>>>
>>>> Have you thought of 'extension' courses?
>>>> 
>>>> sln
>>>
>>>No, but your response makes me recall fondly the moments when I used
>>>to
>>>throw eurotrash around.  Typ.
>> 
>>>--
>>>George
>>>
>>>I believe that God has planted in every heart the desire to live in
>>>freedom.
>>>George W. Bush
>>>
>>>Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/
>> 
>> Typical George W. Bush fan.
>> 
>> sln
> 
> Dutch fuiks think they're so clever and sarcastic and appear not to
> see what's funny about me posting as the idiot in chief.
> 
> They don't teach perl in continuing education classes around here.  So
> it is that I rely on a book and the net, and you've managed to fuck up
> what you could of that.
> 
> It's true I was a Reagan Youth when I was a European.  With Bush II,
> we now see Reagan's folly.

A lot of people on this news group have filtered out the "sln" poster,
you might consider doing the same and saving the grief of dealing with
him.  Not only does he argue with people when he doesn't get humor, but
he argues with himself as well.  Filtering him out will save a lot of
nonsense.
-- 
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Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Dedicated & Semi-Dedicated servers
and Custom Hosting.  24/7 support, 30 day guarantee, secure servers.
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:15:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Anubha Sarkar <anubha9903@gmail.com>
Subject: create own advertising network of partners ...
Message-Id: <d4ce6cfc-1d6a-40c9-91e1-2a5aa0c7cb69@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>


What is an Affiliate Program Or Online Jobs ?

Affiliate marketing program is a way to achieve higher targeted
traffic for your online business. It allows to create own advertising
network of partners ...

Read this article at : http://www.tutorial4u.coz.bz


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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:57:30 +0200
From: Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name>
Subject: Re: FAQ 8.44 How do I tell the difference between errors from the shell and perl?
Message-Id: <slrngjlps1.kkd.whynot@orphan.zombinet>

On 2008-12-06, Peter J. Holzer <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at> wrote:
> On 2008-12-02 23:27, Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> wrote:
>> On 2008-12-02, Josef Moellers <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com> wrote:
>>> Bill H wrote:
*SKIP*
> No.
>
> ./test: line 3: print: command not found
>
> (its just below the quoted paragraph - Bill would just have read 2 more
> lines to see it)
>
>

Oh, no.  I did it again.  I should have to read the whole FAQ entry
before following followup what quotes too much.  OTOH, if I wouldn't
follow then I wouldn't read TWFAQE.  Anyway, now I feel much better.

*SKIP*
> On a related note, I have a minor peeve with "die": The normal
> convention of error messages in unix is to print the name of the program
> first:
>
> -bash: ./hello.pl: /usr/local/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
> chmod: cannot access `foo': No such file or directory
> ...
>
> But die writes the name at the end:
>
> cannot open bla: No such file or directory at ./foo line 2.
>
> which makes it hard to see at first glance. 
>
> ./foo: line 2: cannot open bla: No such file or directory
>
> would be much more unixy.

I disagree.  Despite the fact that Perl has strong ties with *nix (if
I've got that right, that's the way to spell that without risk to step
on someone's patents or trademarks) it has its way.  I would treat that
as a stamp -- "if there is 'at foo.pl line 3141.' than it's me who died
but some other unnamed".  I believe, if someone would have guts to dig
through code of perls then she/he would find that's very old code
(deciding if there should be at-line mark or not on presence of trailing
new-line).  What's worst, changing B<die>'s behaviour could break some
legacy application, you know.

-- 
Torvalds' goal for Linux is very simple: World Domination


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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:00:27 +0200
From: Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name>
Subject: Re: FAQ 8.44 How do I tell the difference between errors from the shell and perl?
Message-Id: <slrngjlq1i.kkd.whynot@orphan.zombinet>

On 2008-12-02, PerlFAQ Server <brian@stonehenge.com> wrote:
*SKIP*
>             #!/usr/locl/bin/perl

Kudos.  That 'locl' trick is real neat.  It made the show.

*CUT*

-- 
Torvalds' goal for Linux is very simple: World Domination


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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 20:35:46 -0700
From: George <george@example.invalid>
Subject: herding ones and zeroes into bytes
Message-Id: <1055ckgbp1ax9$.1uhwr4yq4lbxg.dlg@40tude.net>



I continue to try to implement a black word/white word encoding similar to 
the treatment given in chp. 18 of _unleashed_.

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

#define PATH "george.txt"
#define NUMBER 100
#define MAXFMTLEN 2000

int main(void)
{
  FILE *fp;
  char pattern[MAXFMTLEN];
  char lbin[NUMBER];
  char line[MAXFMTLEN];

  if ((fp = fopen(PATH, "r")) == NULL ) {
    fprintf(stderr, "can't open file\n");
    exit(1);
  }

  sprintf(pattern, "%%*s %%%ds", NUMBER-1);


   
 while(fgets(line, MAXFMTLEN, fp) == line){
    sscanf(line, pattern , lbin);
    
    printf("%s\n", lbin);
  }
  


  fclose(fp);
  return 0;
}

// gcc -o x.exe chad6.c

output is:

C:\MinGW\source>gcc -o x.exe chad6.c

C:\MinGW\source>x
0001000000000000001
0001000000000000001
10000011001000000000000001
10000011001000000000000001
10000011001000000000000001
10000011001000000000000001
10000011001000000000000001
10000011001000000000000001
10000011001000000000000001
10000011001000000000000001
100000001111100
100000001111100
100000001111100
1000001110110111100000000000001
1000001110110111100000000000001
1000001110110111100000000000001
1000001110110111100000000000001
1000001110110111100000000000001
1000001110110111100000000000001
0001000000000000001

The next step is to herd these into bytes.  I tried to follow what Jack 
Klein does, but his encode.c is too complex for me to follow, and it's 20 
K.  I'm able to do it in fortran and know that the file I want looks like:

C:\MinGW\source>od -tx1 -Ax -v bin3.dat

C:\MinGW\source>dump bin3.dat

000000 0d 0a 10 00 22 00 06 0c 80 01 83 20 00 60 c8 00
000010 18 32 00 06 0c 80 01 83 20 00 60 c8 00 18 32 00
000020 06 03 e4 20 c8 0f 90 76 f0 00 60 ed e0 00 c1 db
000030 c0 01 83 b7 80 03 20 6f 00 06 0e de 00 08 80 01
000040

, without the initial crlf.  I added that because encode.c to try to be 
kosher with the usage (it would make my code garbage).  Maybe, hints of of 
why I don't succeed follow:

C:\MinGW\source>gcc encode1.c -o prog.exe

C:\MinGW\source>prog
usage: encode binary-input-file, t4-output-file

C:\MinGW\source>prog bin3.dat out.t4
encoded 0 rows from bin3.dat to out.t4


It's kind of a rambling post; let me restate my intent.  I'd like to herd 
the ones and zeroes in  char lbin[NUMBER] into bytes. I have 8 bit bytes, 
but there isn't any reason not to write it portably.  The final byte is to 
be padded with zeroes to the left.  The output I believe to be correct is 
the last 62 values in the hex dump.

Thanks for your comment.
-- 
George

I will never relent in defending America - whatever it takes.
George W. Bush

Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/


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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:40:46 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: herding ones and zeroes into bytes
Message-Id: <2BH_k.4702$4f3.2350@newsfe14.iad>

George wrote:

> I continue to try to implement a black word/white word encoding
> similar to the treatment given in chp. 18 of _unleashed_.
> 
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <stdlib.h>
> 
> #define PATH "george.txt"
> #define NUMBER 100
> #define MAXFMTLEN 2000
> 
> int main(void)
> {

Oops?  Looks like you intended this for the C programming news group.
-- 
Tim Greer, CEO/Founder/CTO, BurlyHost.com, Inc.
Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Dedicated & Semi-Dedicated servers
and Custom Hosting.  24/7 support, 30 day guarantee, secure servers.
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 20:42:46 -0700
From: George <george@example.invalid>
Subject: Re: herding ones and zeroes into bytes
Message-Id: <1oetadq5dgbt9$.1r3xicp79e01l$.dlg@40tude.net>

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 20:35:46 -0700, George wrote:

> I continue to try to implement a black word/white word encoding similar to 
> the treatment given in chp. 18 of _unleashed_.

Misposted in c.l.p.misc.  My apologies.

I do have an excuse, though.  I got run over by a car while on my bike
three weeks ago, and I have physical deficits in my sprained hands and
awareness problems due to concussion.

I hate cars and their drivers here in desert SW.  They think they're
qualifying for whatever prix gives out prizes for being the first at the
next red light.

Cheers,
-- 
George

Terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but
they cannot touch the foundation of America. These acts shatter steel, but
they cannot dent the steel of American resolve.
George W. Bush

Picture of the Day http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/


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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:20:32 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: how detect english subject and predicate in a sentence
Message-Id: <ghgbia.1ik.1@news.isolution.nl>

Charlton Wilbur schreef:
> Peter J Holzer:
>> <lost in attribution>:

>>> Actually, the sentence can be read *correctly* in two
>>> incompatible ways.  You can read "Fruit flies" as the subject,
>>> and "like a banana" as the predicate, or "Fruit" as the
>>> subject, and "flies like a banana" as the predicate.  Both
>>> readings are correct.
>>
>> Only syntactically.
>
> You're trying to make a distinction between the reading of the
> sentence conveying information (in which sense both readings are
> correct) and the reading of the sentence conveying factually true
> information.
>
> This is a level removed from correctly parsing the sentence.

There exist parsers that use other factors as well, such as probability.

-- 
Affijn, Ruud

"Gewoon is een tijger."



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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:39:32 -0800 (PST)
From: suku <sukeerthmex@gmail.com>
Subject: making graph
Message-Id: <8d7a7d38-db15-41cd-baa7-98f7246246ad@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com>

hi folks..

 I need some help in making graphs for computed data. Do i need to
download any additional tools along with the perl software or do i can
get that with out any additional tools.

  help me out


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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:19:11 -0500
From: zentara <zentara@highstream.net>
Subject: Re: making graph
Message-Id: <nuinj41jvrk7na6fv6hv523431lg3k23jd@4ax.com>

On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:39:32 -0800 (PST), suku <sukeerthmex@gmail.com>
wrote:

>hi folks..
>
> I need some help in making graphs for computed data. Do i need to
>download any additional tools along with the perl software or do i can
>get that with out any additional tools.
>
>  help me out

Graphs are a huge topic, with many software options available.
Some suggestions are:

http://www.gnuplot.info/    for Gnuplot, arguably the best

the Perl GD module collection, which does all sorts of simple graphs

You need to be more specific, on the form of the data, how many axis do
you need, and do you need special coloration or mouse interaction.

You can always make your own graph on a canvas type widget, which
gives you full control, but is much more complex to handle, like making
your own axis, etc.

zentara



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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 05:42:23 GMT
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal Schwartz)
Subject: new CPAN modules on Sun Dec  7 2008
Message-Id: <KBHrun.1nM3@zorch.sf-bay.org>

The following modules have recently been added to or updated in the
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN).  You can install them using the
instructions in the 'perlmodinstall' page included with your Perl
distribution.

Apache2-WURFLFilter-0.53
http://search.cpan.org/~ifuschini/Apache2-WURFLFilter-0.53/
is a Apache Mobile Filter that manage content (text & image) to the correct mobile device 
----
BerkeleyDB-Manager-0.10
http://search.cpan.org/~nuffin/BerkeleyDB-Manager-0.10/
General purpose BerkeleyDB wrapper 
----
CPAN-Reporter-1.1703
http://search.cpan.org/~dagolden/CPAN-Reporter-1.1703/
Adds CPAN Testers reporting to CPAN.pm 
----
CPANPLUS-Dist-Gentoo-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~vpit/CPANPLUS-Dist-Gentoo-0.04/
CPANPLUS backend generating Gentoo ebuilds. 
----
Catalyst-View-XSLT-0.06
http://search.cpan.org/~janus/Catalyst-View-XSLT-0.06/
XSLT View Class 
----
Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~flora/Class-C3-Adopt-NEXT-0.04/
----
File-Util-3.27
http://search.cpan.org/~tommy/File-Util-3.27/
Easy, versatile, portable file handling 
----
Gtk2-Ex-Xor-4
http://search.cpan.org/~kryde/Gtk2-Ex-Xor-4/
shared support for drawing with XOR 
----
HTML-FormatExternal-12
http://search.cpan.org/~kryde/HTML-FormatExternal-12/
HTML to text formatting using external programs 
----
HTTP-Session-0.25
http://search.cpan.org/~tokuhirom/HTTP-Session-0.25/
simple session 
----
Kephra-0.4.0_2
http://search.cpan.org/~lichtkind/Kephra-0.4.0_2/
crossplatform, GUI-Texteditor along perllike Paradigms 
----
Log-Facile-1.00
http://search.cpan.org/~sera/Log-Facile-1.00/
Perl extension for facile logging 
----
Log-Facile-1.01
http://search.cpan.org/~sera/Log-Facile-1.01/
Perl extension for facile logging 
----
MooseX-Blessed-Reconstruct-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~nuffin/MooseX-Blessed-Reconstruct-0.02/
A Data::Visitor for creating Moose objects from blessed placeholders 
----
MooseX-YAML-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~nuffin/MooseX-YAML-0.02/
DWIM loading of Moose objects from YAML 
----
Net-Tor-Servers-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~ajdixon/Net-Tor-Servers-0.01/
Perl extension to query a Tor Directory and collect information on servers 
----
Net-Tor-Servers-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~ajdixon/Net-Tor-Servers-0.02/
Perl extension to query a Tor Directory and collect information on servers 
----
NetHack-Item-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~sartak/NetHack-Item-0.04/
parse and interact with a NetHack item 
----
Passwd-Unix-0.44
http://search.cpan.org/~strzelec/Passwd-Unix-0.44/
----
Pod-Advent-0.10
http://search.cpan.org/~davidrw/Pod-Advent-0.10/
POD Formatter for The Perl Advent Calendar 
----
Rose-DBx-Object-Cached-CHI-0.13
http://search.cpan.org/~kmcgrath/Rose-DBx-Object-Cached-CHI-0.13/
Rose::DB::Object Cache using the CHI interface 
----
Text-Restructured-0.003039
http://search.cpan.org/~nodine/Text-Restructured-0.003039/
Perl implementation of reStructuredText parser 
----
Titanium-1.01
http://search.cpan.org/~markstos/Titanium-1.01/
A strong, lightweight web application famework 
----
Wx-0.89
http://search.cpan.org/~mbarbon/Wx-0.89/
interface to the wxWidgets cross-platform GUI toolkit 
----
p5-WWW-iTunesConnect-0.2
http://search.cpan.org/~bfoz/p5-WWW-iTunesConnect-0.2/
----
perl-5.8.9-RC2
http://search.cpan.org/~nwclark/perl-5.8.9-RC2/
Practical Extraction and Report Language 


If you're an author of one of these modules, please submit a detailed
announcement to comp.lang.perl.announce, and we'll pass it along.

This message was generated by a Perl program described in my Linux
Magazine column, which can be found on-line (along with more than
200 other freely available past column articles) at
  http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/LinuxMag/col82.html

print "Just another Perl hacker," # the original

--
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<merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 05:25:47 -0800
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Noob trying to understand simple Perl grep statement
Message-Id: <86skp05d7o.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "sln" == sln  <sln@netherlands.com> writes:

sln> In reality, it is so busy because some dope decided to let people think
sln> short contractions with 'meta' will give some other dope the illusion
sln> his/her code is not only spiffy and unintelligable, but (this is the
sln> worst) will somehow magically run faster. Emacs on steriods, but let's
sln> let it be syntactically part of the language.

I still regret inventing JAPHs, which encouraged obfuperl, and in some
sense was the motivation for Perl golf.  All three items today harm Perl's
public perception more than they help, and I'm sad for that.

print "Just another Perl hacker,"; # the original
-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion


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Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:28:59 -0800
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: perl segfault - how to troubleshoot
Message-Id: <0qH_k.4688$4f3.523@newsfe14.iad>

sln@netherlands.com wrote:

> I just want to add. Between software installs, defragment the disk
> so that they are are on continuous sectors. Delete temporary files
> after they are no longer needed. Defragment before and after upgrades,
> etc. This will lengthen the life of your drive(s) as its arm will not
> have to be subject to excessive physical 'jerk' when seeking data in
> excessively scatterred patterns.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> sln

I've decided to lift my filter on you after replying to another post
(third party replying is no fun).  It just wouldn't be as fun here if I
can't see your posts (no wonder people don't actually filter you,
right?), and here's a great example of why no one filters you and the
fun they'd miss out on:

The user said, very clearly, that are on a Linux system (Ubuntu).  Linux
doesn't have defrag, and doesn't need it.  This is already too far off
topic for this group, but to continually recommend these trivial things
that are related to Windows, when the user is on Linux, isn't helping
anyone.  I'm not trying to be mean about it, but it is counter
productive.

A drive issue is unrelated to defragging a drive on Windows anyway, and
Linux doesn't use it (it doesn't need it).  The OP was already informed
how to check the drives, as well as methods to tune them (not that that
is their problem anyway).  Since this is no longer Perl related, reply
to them on the Linux news group (about Linux related answers).

Thanks for listening.
-- 
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:22:34 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: perl segfault - how to troubleshoot
Message-Id: <ghgbrp.1po.1@news.isolution.nl>

Tim Greer schreef:
> sln@netherlands.com:

> I've decided to lift my filter on you

*PLONK*

-- 
Affijn, Ruud

"Gewoon is een tijger."


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#To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
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#For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
#perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
#sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
#answer them even if I did know the answer.


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