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Perl-Users Digest Sun, 30 Nov 2008 Volume: 11 Number: 2019
Today's topics:
Re: find files by date <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Re: find files by date <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Re: find files by date <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Re: find files by date <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Re: How to forbid functions of some package be introduc <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: How to forbid functions of some package be introduc <m@rtij.nl.invlalid>
Re: if ($line == $count++) (David Combs)
Re: if ($line == $count++) (David Combs)
Re: if ($line == $count++) <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Re: Is there a command to open a file as well as to cre <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Is there a command to open a file as well as to create <PengYu.UT@gmail.com>
Re: mail address validation <stoupa@practisoft.cz>
Re: mail address validation <smallpond@juno.com>
Re: mail address validation (Randal L. Schwartz)
Re: mail address validation <anthony@muzz.co.uk>
Re: out of memory (David Combs)
Re: out of memory (David Combs)
Re: Perl Presentation (David Combs)
Re: Perl Presentation <cartercc@gmail.com>
updating Perl on an old BSD machine <cartercc@gmail.com>
Re: updating Perl on an old BSD machine <sisyphus359@gmail.com>
Re: updating Perl on an old BSD machine <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Re: updating Perl on an old BSD machine <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Re: updating Perl on an old BSD machine <cartercc@gmail.com>
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:22:34 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: find files by date
Message-Id: <ggu0qv.1uo.1@news.isolution.nl>
Dave schreef:
> Don't inspect all the code, was hand written without any care for the
> it.
So you are not taking care. I must assume now that you didn't read the
Posting Guidelines. They are posted here about 2 times a week.
--
Affijn, Ruud
"Gewoon is een tijger."
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:39:04 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: find files by date
Message-Id: <ggu1n1.22s.1@news.isolution.nl>
Tad J McClellan schreef:
> Directory handles should be UPPER CASE.
And I think they should be lexical and of course in lower case.
--
Affijn, Ruud
"Gewoon is een tijger."
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:40:44 -0600
From: Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: find files by date
Message-Id: <slrngj55us.sr7.tadmc@tadmc30.sbcglobal.net>
[ Please do not top-post ]
Dave <dave1198@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don't inspect all the code,
I don't take direction very well...
> was hand written without any care for the it.
Code posted here is often copied and used by others.
Bad code posted here will be corrected for their benefit.
> Thanks a lot!
You're welcome.
[ snip upside-down quote ]
--
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:39:55 -0800
From: brian d foy <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: find files by date
Message-Id: <301120081439558566%brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
In article <493200f8@news.x-privat.org>, Dave <dave1198@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to get all the files in a folder that are newer that a certain
> (determined) date.
I have some stuff in File::Find::Closures that will do that for you.
http://search.cpan.org/dist/File-Find-Closures
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:13:30 -0800
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: How to forbid functions of some package be introduced to the global name space?
Message-Id: <4ci5j49s00v8nu4smvkj6rbqrvo2ac2vu8@4ax.com>
Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org> wrote:
>Peng Yu <PengYu.UT@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> File::Copy would introduce 'copy' in the current namespace, which
>> would result in conflict in the example below. I'm wondering if there
>> is anyway to forbid 'copy' be introduced in the current namespace.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peng
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>>
>> use strict;
>> use warnings;
>>
>> use File::Copy;
>
>use File::Copy(); # Empty import list, so nothing is imported
>
>See 'perldoc -f use' for details.
Or exclude after the fact with "no", see "perldoc -f no".
jue
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:40:29 +0100
From: Martijn Lievaart <m@rtij.nl.invlalid>
Subject: Re: How to forbid functions of some package be introduced to the global name space?
Message-Id: <pan.2008.11.30.16.40.29@rtij.nl.invlalid>
On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:24:45 -0800, Peng Yu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> File::Copy would introduce 'copy' in the current namespace, which would
> result in conflict in the example below. I'm wondering if there is
> anyway to forbid 'copy' be introduced in the current namespace.
>
> Thanks,
> Peng
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> use strict;
> use warnings;
>
> use File::Copy;
use File::Copy ();
HTH,
M4
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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:46:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
Subject: Re: if ($line == $count++)
Message-Id: <ggvc5f$32h$4@reader1.panix.com>
In article <geknpp$nbs$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> wrote:
>
>April wrote:
>> On Nov 1, 2:12 pm, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>>>>> See the difference (for example) between $count++ and ++$count.
>>> <please don't quote signatures>
>>>
>>
>> thanks Tim, I'll pay attention to this .. you know if you use Google
>> Groups, then all the quotes are hidden automaticaly and you get a nice
>> and clean interface. If you get a chance give it a try and you may
>> like it.
>
>Many of us have tried it and really dislike it. There are a number of
>reasons for this.
>
>I find that not only does it have many deficiencies and annoyances, it
>has bugs. For example, the article numbers in the tree-view sometimes
>don't match those in the main pane. Clicking an article in the tree-view
>can take you to a different message in the main view.
>
>Have you tried a proper news reader - like Thunderbird or even Outlook
>Express?
How about trn4?
David
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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:50:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
Subject: Re: if ($line == $count++)
Message-Id: <ggvcd2$32h$5@reader1.panix.com>
In article <NJnPk.34387$gD3.12037@newsfe01.iad>,
Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>April wrote:
>
>> On Nov 1, 2:12Â pm, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> See the difference (for example) between $count++ and ++$count.
>>>
>>> <please don't quote signatures>
>>>
>>
>> thanks Tim, I'll pay attention to this .. you know if you use Google
>> Groups, then all the quotes are hidden automaticaly and you get a nice
>> and clean interface. If you get a chance give it a try and you may
>> like it. If you want to check the quotes, you can, and also all the
>> posts for the same topic are in the same spot. I thought people are
>> using this kind of web tools nowadays and did not pay much attention,
>> besides I'm not familiar with the good old tradition either.
>>
>
>There are a lot of issues with services such as google groups. I'm not
>interested in it at all (I won't get into the reasons why google groups
>is less desirable in every single way, as that's best left to another
>topic in another group). Anyway, you might check to see if there's a
>configuration option in some 'preferences' area to view signatures or
>not have it quote them, or something. It just makes followups appear
>confusing as to whom typed what sometimes.
>--
>Tim Greer, CEO/Founder/CTO, BurlyHost.com, Inc.
>Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Dedicated & Semi-Dedicated servers
>and Custom Hosting. 24/7 support, 30 day guarantee, secure servers.
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One good thing about google groups is that it has access
to stuff from months and years ago -- posts long gone
from whatever local or isp-maintained usenet cash you might have
access to.
David
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:06:46 -0600
From: Tad J McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: if ($line == $count++)
Message-Id: <slrngj6hlm.330.tadmc@tadmc30.sbcglobal.net>
David Combs <dkcombs@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <NJnPk.34387$gD3.12037@newsfe01.iad>,
> Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>>--
>>Tim Greer, CEO/Founder/CTO, BurlyHost.com, Inc.
>>Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Dedicated & Semi-Dedicated servers
>>and Custom Hosting. 24/7 support, 30 day guarantee, secure servers.
>>Industry's most experienced staff! -- Web Hosting With Muscle!
It is still poor manners to quote .sigs. Please don't do that.
--
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:17:48 -0800
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Is there a command to open a file as well as to create the directory if it is not exist?
Message-Id: <pgp5j49bveatr95vd1puv07f9uii4528qd@4ax.com>
Peng Yu <PengYu.UT@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm wondering if there is a perl command that is smart enough to
>create an directory automatically when it opens a file for write.
I wouldn't want to use such a command, the chances of messing up the
file system are just too big.
Why not simply check if the directory exists (-d) and if it doesn't then
create it (after confirming, that you really, really meant to create a
new directory).
If it's a tree then use File::Path to create the whole tree with one
call.
jue
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:56:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Peng Yu <PengYu.UT@gmail.com>
Subject: Is there a command to open a file as well as to create the directory if it is not exist?
Message-Id: <69a89ab5-de1d-4f2d-b2db-b78b986d9ea7@z1g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
Hi,
The following code would give the following error, if the dir 'xy'
does not exist.
print() on closed filehandle OUT at ./open.pl line 7.
I'm wondering if there is a perl command that is smart enough to
create an directory automatically when it opens a file for write.
Thanks,
Peng
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
open(OUT, '>xy/abx.txt');
print OUT "Hello World\n";
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:15:14 +0100
From: "Petr Vileta \"fidokomik\"" <stoupa@practisoft.cz>
Subject: Re: mail address validation
Message-Id: <ggu7di$1qdp$1@ns.felk.cvut.cz>
smallpond wrote:
> On Nov 29, 11:38 am, "Petr Vileta \"fidokomik\""
>> My questions are:
>>
>> 1) what characters are forbidden in "user" part
>> 2) what characters are forbidden in "domain" part
>> 3) are allowed single character top level domains, say "example.o" ?
>>
>> Many thanks for any explanation.
>
>
> You want to reinvent the wheel and not just use the CPAN module? ok
>
> http://ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html
I have read this but regexp on this page return true for
user@domain
By my opinion this is invalid mail address because TLD part missing.
--
Petr Vileta, Czech republic
(My server rejects all messages from Yahoo and Hotmail.
Send me your mail from another non-spammer site please.)
Please reply to <petr AT practisoft DOT cz>
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:54:27 -0800 (PST)
From: smallpond <smallpond@juno.com>
Subject: Re: mail address validation
Message-Id: <e94d804b-e774-4cc4-9733-6bd19f93ecd6@f13g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 30, 9:15 am, "Petr Vileta \"fidokomik\"" <sto...@practisoft.cz>
wrote:
> smallpond wrote:
> > On Nov 29, 11:38 am, "Petr Vileta \"fidokomik\""
> >> My questions are:
>
> >> 1) what characters are forbidden in "user" part
> >> 2) what characters are forbidden in "domain" part
> >> 3) are allowed single character top level domains, say "example.o" ?
>
> >> Many thanks for any explanation.
>
> > You want to reinvent the wheel and not just use the CPAN module? ok
>
> >http://ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html
>
> I have read this but regexp on this page return true for
> user@domain
> By my opinion this is invalid mail address because TLD part missing.
How about "admin@localhost"?
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:54:18 -0800
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: mail address validation
Message-Id: <86prkdgkvp.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
>>>>> "Petr" == Petr Vileta \"fidokomik\" <Petr> writes:
>> http://ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html
Petr> I have read this but regexp on this page return true for user@domain By my
Petr> opinion this is invalid mail address because TLD part missing.
It's still a legal address. Just not necessarily deliverable.
Oh, you wanted to test deliverability? That's a whole different can of worms.
--
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:48:29 -0600
From: Anthony Carl Perkins <anthony@muzz.co.uk>
Subject: Re: mail address validation
Message-Id: <slrngj69ie.to1.anthony@smirnoff.home.muzz.be>
On 2008-11-30, Petr Vileta "fidokomik" <stoupa@practisoft.cz> wrote:
> I have read this but regexp on this page return true for
> user@domain
> By my opinion this is invalid mail address because TLD part missing.
user@domain is a valid email address if there is a local machine
called 'domain'. There are also many valid characters that may make
up the 'user' part of the email address. One technique would be to
check if the domain part of the email address will accept mail
(testing for MX records would be a good way) and then just accepting
the address as valid. I don't know how practical this would be but
it might be a good start.
--
Anthony Carl Perkins
http://www.muzz.co.uk
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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:33:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
Subject: Re: out of memory
Message-Id: <ggvbcl$32h$2@reader1.panix.com>
In article <ajomg4pn7tnqfkhntv0tp1b9a9n56pe5tf@4ax.com>,
Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Another approach: sort both input files. There are many sorting
>algorithms around,
Question: why not simply use the standard unix (linux) "sort" program?
Does that not do all the right things? qsort, uses file-merge-etc
if it needs to, etc?
(And hopefully has that within-the-last-10-years *massive*
speedup on (a) already-sorted files and (b) sorting ASCII files
discovered by that algorithm-book-writing prof at Princeton.)
>including those that sort completely on disk and
>require very minimum RAM. They were very popular back when 32kB was a
>lot of memory. Then you can walk through both files line by line in
>parallel, requiring only a tiny little bit of RAM.
>Depending upon the sorting algorithm this would be O(n)log(n) or
>somewhat worse.
>
Thanks,
David
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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:38:18 +0000 (UTC)
From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
Subject: Re: out of memory
Message-Id: <ggvblp$32h$3@reader1.panix.com>
In article <mc0ng497gq9q6agh6uh9mirgg2i1mqd1ir@4ax.com>,
<sln@netherlands.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:32:05 -0400, Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> "JE" == Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> writes:
>>
>> JE> Don't you learn those techniques in basic computer science
>> JE> classes any more?
>>
>>The assumption that someone who is getting paid to program has had -- or
>>even has had any interest in -- computer science classes gets less
>>tenable with each passing day.
>>
>>Charlton
>
>Well said.. that should be its own thread.
>
>sln
Like hiring surgeons who've never had biology.
"Look, I can cut, can't I? What ELSE could I possibly need to know?"
David
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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:05:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
Subject: Re: Perl Presentation
Message-Id: <ggvd8t$32h$6@reader1.panix.com>
In article <98177cb6-5d95-46fa-bd74-af18c14c67b1@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com> wrote:
>database. I also have an advanced degree in SW and will finish my PhD
>in SW next year (I hope) and can tell you from experience that Perl
Wow, am I getting old! -- so much new terminology in technical fields.
Please, what does "SW" stand for?
Thanks,
David
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:06:28 -0800 (PST)
From: cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Perl Presentation
Message-Id: <baa55943-35e5-4e7e-84e8-d29f2d835440@w34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 30, 8:05 pm, dkco...@panix.com (David Combs) wrote:
> Please, what does "SW" stand for?
Sorry, my bad. I meant SwE, Software Engineering. Though, as my 'real'
engineering friends tell me, software cannot be engineered because it
doesn't involve physical constraints and physical laws, and that I'll
never be a 'real' engineer.
Oh, well.
CC
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:23:41 -0800 (PST)
From: cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: updating Perl on an old BSD machine
Message-Id: <3ffb4bd6-d6f7-4292-bb27-ed0e4d76b34d@3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>
I'm updating an old FreeBSD machine (Pentium Pro) that I formerly used
as a web server and am pressing into service again. I've upgraded to
Apache 2.2.2, am upgrading PostgreSQL, and I would like to upgrade
Perl.
It has Perl 5.005_003 currently, and I'd like to go to Perl 5.8 (or
better, maybe). The FreeBSD ports collection doesn't seem to have
Perl.
I assume that I get the zip file, unzip it, to the make, make install,
make test routine. The old perl is in /usr/bin/perl. What do I do with
this?
Is there an ftp mirror handy as well? The only tools I have on this
machine are CLI tools so I need to get whatever I need by ftp.
Thanks, CC.
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:19:37 -0800 (PST)
From: sisyphus <sisyphus359@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: updating Perl on an old BSD machine
Message-Id: <a9eba0c1-330e-4eca-bf38-d3c1d8bceb77@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com>
cartercc wrote:
> The old perl is in /usr/bin/perl. What do I do with
> this?
If it's being used by the operating system (as is the case on linux)
then you leave it alone.
I don't have any BSD experience, but if it's like linux you might
start your perl build (as user) with './configure -de' and then the
'make install' step (which you'll need to run as root) will install
the new build into /usr/local. Alternatively, you can specify a
location for the new build using the 'prefix' option - eg './configure
-de prefix=/home/me/perl' (or wherever you want it to go).
There are also other build options you might want to provide to
configure - see the INSTALL file in the top level perl source folder.
Cheers,
Rob
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:13:37 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: updating Perl on an old BSD machine
Message-Id: <Xns9B665DDC9D9F4asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com> wrote in news:3ffb4bd6-d6f7-4292-bb27-
ed0e4d76b34d@3g2000yqs.googlegroups.com:
> I'm updating an old FreeBSD machine (Pentium Pro) that I formerly used
> as a web server and am pressing into service again. I've upgraded to
> Apache 2.2.2, am upgrading PostgreSQL, and I would like to upgrade
> Perl.
Have you upgraded all system services to most recent versions as well?
> It has Perl 5.005_003 currently, and I'd like to go to Perl 5.8 (or
> better, maybe). The FreeBSD ports collection doesn't seem to have
> Perl.
How hard is it to do a little homework?
http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ports/lang/perl5.8
http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ports/lang/perl5
> I assume that I get the zip file, unzip it, to the make, make install,
> make test routine. The old perl is in /usr/bin/perl. What do I do with
> this?
>
> Is there an ftp mirror handy as well? The only tools I have on this
> machine are CLI tools so I need to get whatever I need by ftp.
Install links or lynx from the ports collection. You may have to update
your ports collection first.
Sinan
--
A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
(remove .invalid and reverse each component for email address)
comp.lang.perl.misc guidelines on the WWW:
http://www.rehabitation.com/clpmisc/
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:08:35 -0500
From: Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Subject: Re: updating Perl on an old BSD machine
Message-Id: <m163m4kgt8.fsf@dot-app.org>
cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com> writes:
> I assume that I get the zip file, unzip it, to the make, make install,
> make test routine.
Yep, sounds about right. Make sure to read the readme.* that applies to
your system.
> The old perl is in /usr/bin/perl. What do I do with this?
One option is to simply leave it alone. That way, you wouldn't have to
do a bunch of regression testing to verify that the upgrade didn't break
anything. You don't need to do anything special to do this; the default
location for a user-installed perl is in /usr/local/bin, with modules
likewise under /usr/local/lib.
> Is there an ftp mirror handy as well?
Quite a few. Have a look at <http://mirrors.cpan.org/> to find one
that's close to you.
sherm--
--
My blog: http://shermspace.blogspot.com
Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:30:18 -0800 (PST)
From: cartercc <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: updating Perl on an old BSD machine
Message-Id: <9691907c-9b97-458a-a61a-b9720edd209f@j11g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 30, 3:23 am, cartercc <carte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm updating an old FreeBSD machine (Pentium Pro) that I formerly used
> as a web server and am pressing into service again. I've upgraded to
> Apache 2.2.2, am upgrading PostgreSQL, and I would like to upgrade
> Perl.
Okay, I'm getting an education.
I found what I needed at ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/src. I got Perl-5.8.8,
and ran everything to make test. Out of the thousands(?) of tests, I
got one error: sprintf failed test 147. I ran t/harness with the same
results.
Is this faulure fatal? Can I run make install without a problem? How
can I see exactly why this test failed?
Also, I still have some hesitancy about the fact that the old Perl
lives at /usr/bin/perl. I don't know how to handle this.
Thanks, CC.
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#to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
#where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
#For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
#perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
#sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
#answer them even if I did know the answer.
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End of Perl-Users Digest V11 Issue 2019
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