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Today's topics:
Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs xhoster@gmail.com
Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>
Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs (Vicky Conlan)
Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Re: file locks and a counter <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>
Probably a stupid question but.... <bill@ts1000.us>
Re: Probably a stupid question but.... <anfi@onet.eu>
Re: Probably a stupid question but.... <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: Probably a stupid question but.... <flowerysong00@yahoo.com>
Re: Probably a stupid question but.... <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: Probably a stupid question but.... <sbryce@scottbryce.com>
Re: Proxy in perl <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>
Re: Question about regex (nagios plugin) <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: Sybase::CTLib ct_connect problem <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Re: yaku perl <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: yaku perl <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: yaku perl <tim@burlyhost.com>
Re: yaku perl <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
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Date: 01 Oct 2008 16:51:42 GMT
From: xhoster@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs
Message-Id: <20081001125143.940$Zv@newsreader.com>
comps@riffraff.plig.net (Vicky Conlan) wrote:
> According to <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>:
> >I also use gnuplot a lot for those areas where GD::Graph doesn't work,
> >like 3D plots, function plotting, etc. Interfacing with gnuplot is not
> >hard.
>
> Ah, but interfacing with gnuplot /is/ hard if I can't get gnuplot
> installed on the machine it needs to run on.
If you can't get gnuplot installed, you very likely won't be able to get
GD installed either. Incompetent IT is hard to circumvent.
Xho
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:55:51 -0400
From: Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Subject: Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs
Message-Id: <m1ej302o9k.fsf@dot-app.org>
comps@riffraff.plig.net (Vicky Conlan) writes:
> Ah, but interfacing with gnuplot /is/ hard if I can't get gnuplot
> installed on the machine it needs to run on.
If getting things installed on the production server is difficult for
reasons you can't control, then IMHO you should find out what's on that
server first, then decide which of the available options are best suited
to the task at hand.
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:55:07 +1000
From: Martien Verbruggen <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>
Subject: Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs
Message-Id: <b3o0cg.4v6.ln@news.heliotrope.home>
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:01:04 +0000 (UTC),
Vicky Conlan <comps@riffraff.plig.net> wrote:
> According to <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>:
>
>>I also use gnuplot a lot for those areas where GD::Graph doesn't work,
>>like 3D plots, function plotting, etc. Interfacing with gnuplot is not
>>hard.
>
> Ah, but interfacing with gnuplot /is/ hard if I can't get gnuplot
> installed on the machine it needs to run on.
>
> Having used both, how tricky would you expect it to be if I wrote with
> GD::Graph in mind, then had to switch to a gnuplot option at a later
> date? (ie, are the interfaces similar enough to make it a simple switch,
> or a significant re-write?)
Switching from GD::Graph to gnuplot is a big change, and would probably
require a rewrite of almost everything. The Chart modules, I believe,
have an interface that is compatible with GD::Graph's, but i mist say, i
haven't used them for a while, so i am not too sure how much work there
is, or how many more features they have than GD::Graph, nowadays.
Martien
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:43:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: comps@riffraff.plig.net (Vicky Conlan)
Subject: Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs
Message-Id: <gc0qul$1jmm$3@magenta.plig.net>
According to <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>:
>Switching from GD::Graph to gnuplot is a big change, and would probably
>require a rewrite of almost everything. The Chart modules, I believe,
Hmm, that's what I was afraid of. Bugger.
Ok, thank you to everyone for the advice. I have already put in an
enquiry about the chance of getting gnuplot installed, it's probably
the best option ... I can see a lot of the rest of the week spent
chasing it up. I hate this bit of my job.
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:29:06 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: Advice on module for plotting graphs
Message-Id: <Xns9B2AD061CBB4Basu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
comps@riffraff.plig.net (Vicky Conlan) wrote in news:gc0qul$1jmm$3
@magenta.plig.net:
> According to <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>:
>>Switching from GD::Graph to gnuplot is a big change, and would probably
>>require a rewrite of almost everything. The Chart modules, I believe,
>
> Hmm, that's what I was afraid of. Bugger.
>
> Ok, thank you to everyone for the advice. I have already put in an
> enquiry about the chance of getting gnuplot installed, it's probably
> the best option ... I can see a lot of the rest of the week spent
> chasing it up. I hate this bit of my job.
Have you looked into Google's chart API?
My guess is, you could drive it using LWP.
Sinan
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:10:30 +1000
From: Martien Verbruggen <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>
Subject: Re: file locks and a counter
Message-Id: <60p0cg.io8.ln@news.heliotrope.home>
On 1 Oct 2008 08:09:54 GMT,
Richard Nixon <richard@example.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 08:55:34 +1000, Martien Verbruggen wrote:
>
>>> Does this address the file lock issue adequately?
>>
>> I am not sure what you mean by 'file lock issue', and I haven't read
>> the full thread leading up to this. I assume you have already been
>> pointed to the FAQ entry "How can I lock a file?" and the "File Locking"
>> section in the perlopentut documentation?
>
>
>
> Martin--
>
> Die voellige Pfade kann ich auch nicht rechnen, ohne engere Beziehungen.
> Ich bin nicht, cowboy an keyboard, eines anderen Servers.
>
> Deswegen wird yefraagt.
I don't know what language this is. It vaguely looks like German, but it
isn't. I have no clue why you decided to switch to this.
I think you're trying to say that you're not a cowboy, and that you
can't count on the full path anyway. if I assume you mean you can't
control the directory structure, then I fail to see how that has
anything to do with what I wrote, especially the quoted bit. You don't
need to control that. All you need to do is change the variable in your
program so that it points to a place where you can write the file.
I have just skimmed further upthread; none of the original code would
work either without a correct path. Whatever you do, you need to fix
that anyway.
My post directly addressed your error message, and the code that was
related to it.
Martien
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:12:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill H <bill@ts1000.us>
Subject: Probably a stupid question but....
Message-Id: <d3021dc5-3f0f-4529-9b60-a1699d3eb845@d70g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
In all the years I have been working in perl (and I do not call myself
an expert by any means), I have never come across a way of having
multi-line comments. In PHP, C, Actionscript you have the /* && */ to
mark a block, is there one in perl? Only reason I have decided to ask
now, I just commented out 50 plus lines of code using # enter arrow
left repeat and I know (or hope) there has to be a much simpler way
of doing it.
Bill H
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:20:41 +0200
From: Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu>
Subject: Re: Probably a stupid question but....
Message-Id: <ixtvs8i778@carl.anfi.chickenkiller.com>
Bill H <bill@ts1000.us> wrote:
> In all the years I have been working in perl (and I do not call myself
> an expert by any means), I have never come across a way of having
> multi-line comments. In PHP, C, Actionscript you have the /* && */ to
> mark a block, is there one in perl? Only reason I have decided to ask
> now, I just commented out 50 plus lines of code using # enter arrow
> left repeat and I know (or hope) there has to be a much simpler way
> of doing it.
>
> Bill H
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:27:43 -0700
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: Probably a stupid question but....
Message-Id: <zPSEk.15387$hX5.9100@newsfe06.iad>
Bill H wrote:
> In all the years I have been working in perl (and I do not call myself
> an expert by any means), I have never come across a way of having
> multi-line comments. In PHP, C, Actionscript you have the /* && */ to
> mark a block, is there one in perl? Only reason I have decided to ask
> now, I just commented out 50 plus lines of code using # enter arrow
> left repeat and I know (or hope) there has to be a much simpler way
> of doing it.
>
> Bill H
I usually just have a block of text or code I don't want to run, and I
do a:
=junkstuff
block
of
text
etc
here
=cut
If the code you want to not run is after all the code you want to use,
you can use __END__ or something else, depending on the formatting, if
you need code below it, etc.
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:25:05 -0400
From: Paul Arthur <flowerysong00@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Probably a stupid question but....
Message-Id: <slrnge7u60.740.flowerysong00@shasta.marwnad.com>
On 2008-10-01, Bill H <bill@ts1000.us> wrote:
> In all the years I have been working in perl (and I do not call myself
> an expert by any means), I have never come across a way of having
> multi-line comments. In PHP, C, Actionscript you have the /* && */ to
> mark a block, is there one in perl? Only reason I have decided to ask
> now, I just commented out 50 plus lines of code using # enter arrow
> left repeat and I know (or hope) there has to be a much simpler way
> of doing it.
http://www.google.com/search?q=perl+multiline+comments
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:36:14 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Probably a stupid question but....
Message-Id: <ujadr5-3qa.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth Bill H <bill@ts1000.us>:
> In all the years I have been working in perl (and I do not call myself
> an expert by any means), I have never come across a way of having
> multi-line comments. In PHP, C, Actionscript you have the /* && */ to
> mark a block, is there one in perl?
perldoc -q comment
> Only reason I have decided to ask
> now, I just commented out 50 plus lines of code using # enter arrow
> left repeat and I know (or hope) there has to be a much simpler way
> of doing it.
Get a decent editor? V <select code> :s/^/# works fine for me... :)
Ben
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:10:53 -0600
From: Scott Bryce <sbryce@scottbryce.com>
Subject: Re: Probably a stupid question but....
Message-Id: <YomdnfS5D9AInnnVnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@comcast.com>
Bill H wrote:
> I just commented out 50 plus lines of code using # enter arrow left
> repeat and I know (or hope) there has to be a much simpler way of
> doing it.
My text editor will has an option to comment out all highlighted lines
of code. It is handy for debugging as well.
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:21:48 +1000
From: Martien Verbruggen <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au>
Subject: Re: Proxy in perl
Message-Id: <clp0cg.io8.ln@news.heliotrope.home>
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 00:30:18 -0700 (PDT),
secSwami <parvinderb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to write up a proxy client in perl. I have finished part
> of it where the script listens on port 7070 and when you configure
> your browser to use that port, it will get the webpage just fine but I
> see that if the page has calls out to other servers for images etc,
> the request half heartedly fails and I just get the web page minus the
> content that is hosted on some other website. Can someone shine some
> light if and how I can have the proxy app fetch those urls too?
The proxy shouldn't have to parse the HTML returned from a server to get
the references in that HTML as well (I am assuming you're talking about
a HTTP proxy here, and you're fetching HTML pages?).
The browser gets a document, lets say it's a HTML document, from a
server. Once it has the document, the original HTTP transaction is
over. It then parses that document for display. Any contained objects
that need to be displayed get fetched in a separate transaction. So, if
there's a <img src=.../> link in the HTML, the browser will create a
separate HTTP GET request for that. The proxy would see that second
request separate from the original GET request that fetched the HTML
document.
If you know this, and you really should before you write a proxy server,
I apologise, but it doesn't seem clear to me from what you wrote that
you do know. If you don't know, and you're doing this to learn about all
this, i suggest you read up on the relevant RFCs
It's a bit hard to say what you mean by "calls out to other servers" and
"the request half heartedly fails".
HTTP allows for multiple requests to be sent over the same TCP/IP
connection, but they would still be separate, serialised, and all
constructed by the user agent, not an intermediate proxy.
You do know that there are modules available to create HTTP proxy
servers?
http://search.cpan.org/search?query=proxy
Martien
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:19:33 -0700
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: Question about regex (nagios plugin)
Message-Id: <e3QEk.7241$kc.3968@newsfe12.iad>
Ashish Kumar wrote:
>> You can add a check in the script to determine the OS version, or add
>> an optional last field and value (which if blank, you can assume is
>> the older OS version).
>
> True but I was just wondering if there was any possibility of getting
> this to work.
>
>> if ($get_cpu_util =~
>> /^.*\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s*(\d+)?\s*$/)
>
> It worked as expected. Since I am fairly new to regex, I am still
> trying to figure out how it worked though.
>
> Thanks.
The above is actually a bad example and can present unexpected results,
but can easily be modified to work consistently. For now, the regex is
just capturing (within ( ) ) anything that's follows one or more white
space(s) \s+ (spaces) that happens to be a digit (one or more digits
\d+). The add I set was zero or more white spaces at the end \s* and
an "optional" final digit(s) \d+, by using (\d+). (content)? will make
it optional, so it can match with or without it. But, again, that
presents some issues, so you'll want to modify it to your specific
needs.
Instead, you should do something like (watch for word-wrap):
if ($get_cpu_util =~ m/^\s*(?:\d+\s+){12
(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)\s*(\d+)?\s*$/) {
Since there's always 12 instances of a \d+ (digit) and white space \s+
before you want to start capturing only the last 4 or 5 digits
following that (depending on the OS), I've added (?:\d+\s+){12} to the
example, which will require (and ignore -- not capture) the first 12
instances, and then you are more accurately capturing the last 4 (or 5,
if there are 5) digits. There are probably better ways to do this,
such as the last portion \s+(\d+)(?:\s+)?(\d+)?\s*$/) { or by using
split. But the above modified is more accurate.
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:37:16 -0500
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: Sybase::CTLib ct_connect problem
Message-Id: <86d4ik46gz.fsf@lifelogs.com>
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:47:49 -0700 (PDT) somyasharma@gmail.com wrote:
s> Thanks for the reply. Actually the scene is that if i use
s> Sybase::DBlib instead of CTlib, everything works fine. Adding to that,
s> there are lots of existing C++ components which use Sybase's CTLib. I
s> get this error when i try to use Sybperl in a perl script.
s> The issue is somewhat baffling :(
Have you checked your environment carefully? What does
"use Data::Dumper; print Dumper \%ENV" produce?
s> I am trying this out in a very restricted environment,so not pretty
s> sure if i will be allowed to experiment with the $SYBASE directory.
s> Thanks for the inputs though :)
You can just set things up in /var/tmp or any other directory, as long
as $SYBASE points to it.
Ted
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:22:29 -0700
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: yaku perl
Message-Id: <V5QEk.7242$kc.852@newsfe12.iad>
Bill H wrote:
> On Sep 30, 6:34Â pm, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>> swilting wrote:
>> > [swilting@your-ab6cd29f8e ~]$ perl -e {{{{}}}} | cat >aout.txt |
>> > cat /bin/ps | ps -A | more
>>
>> > This keeps the permissions to own perl
>> > after all it could put anything at the end of the line
>> > in there not even on ;
>>
>> > is the return of 5.6.1
>> > I believe
>>
>> I can't make sense of your post here? Â Looking at the command you've
>> supplied, you'd get the same results by just typing: ps -A so I'm
>> unsure how Perl is related to your question or if you intended to
>> provide more information (code, details, etc.)
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>
> My Engrish is pretty rusty but I think he is trying to say that using
> the above you can do things you don't have permission to do, as long
> as perl has permission to do it.
>
> Bill H
Possibly, though I got the impression that maybe the OP meant that it
would only list the (Perl) processes owned by their user? I'll refrain
from guessing further.
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:49:56 -0700
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: yaku perl
Message-Id: <ctk7e4h619o0j2mg8besrin3b1rpqm8gfu@4ax.com>
Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>Bill H wrote:
>
>> On Sep 30, 6:34 pm, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>>> swilting wrote:
>>> > [swilting@your-ab6cd29f8e ~]$ perl -e {{{{}}}} | cat >aout.txt |
>>> > cat /bin/ps | ps -A | more
>>>
>>> > This keeps the permissions to own perl
>>> > after all it could put anything at the end of the line
>>> > in there not even on ;
>>>
>>> I can't make sense of your post here? Looking at the command you've
>>> supplied, you'd get the same results by just typing: ps -A so I'm
>>> unsure how Perl is related to your question or if you intended to
>>> provide more information (code, details, etc.)
>>
>> My Engrish is pretty rusty but I think he is trying to say that using
>> the above you can do things you don't have permission to do, as long
>> as perl has permission to do it.
>>
>> Bill H
>
>Possibly, though I got the impression that maybe the OP meant that it
>would only list the (Perl) processes owned by their user? I'll refrain
>from guessing further.
"permission to own Perl" sounds more like he wants a custom installation
under his user account instead of the system installation provided by
the administrator. But that's as bad a guess as any other.
jue
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:24:11 -0700
From: Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com>
Subject: Re: yaku perl
Message-Id: <gMSEk.15386$hX5.6454@newsfe06.iad>
Jürgen Exner wrote:
> Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>>Bill H wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 30, 6:34Â pm, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>>>> swilting wrote:
>>>> > [swilting@your-ab6cd29f8e ~]$ perl -e {{{{}}}} | cat >aout.txt |
>>>> > cat /bin/ps | ps -A | more
>>>>
>>>> > This keeps the permissions to own perl
>>>> > after all it could put anything at the end of the line
>>>> > in there not even on ;
>>>>
>>>> I can't make sense of your post here? Â Looking at the command
>>>> you've supplied, you'd get the same results by just typing: ps -A
>>>> so I'm unsure how Perl is related to your question or if you
>>>> intended to provide more information (code, details, etc.)
>>>
>>> My Engrish is pretty rusty but I think he is trying to say that
>>> using the above you can do things you don't have permission to do,
>>> as long as perl has permission to do it.
>>>
>>> Bill H
>>
>>Possibly, though I got the impression that maybe the OP meant that it
>>would only list the (Perl) processes owned by their user? I'll
>>refrain from guessing further.
>
> "permission to own Perl" sounds more like he wants a custom
> installation under his user account instead of the system installation
> provided by the administrator. But that's as bad a guess as any other.
>
> jue
I don't get the impression the OP writes in English well enough or will
revisit this thread by the looks of it, so I'm not going to dwell on
it. Maybe they just wanted to post nonsense? :-)
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:24:32 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: yaku perl
Message-Id: <Xns9B2ACF9B6D69asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
Tim Greer <tim@burlyhost.com> wrote in news:YPxEk.2634$i84.877
@newsfe10.iad:
> swilting wrote:
>
>> [swilting@your-ab6cd29f8e ~]$ perl -e {{{{}}}} | cat >aout.txt |
>> cat /bin/ps | ps -A | more
>>
>>
>> This keeps the permissions to own perl
>> after all it could put anything at the end of the line
>> in there not even on ;
>>
>> is the return of 5.6.1
>> I believe
>
> I can't make sense of your post here?
This person has a history of posting gibberish (possibly translated from
French using an online translator).
I prefer to ignore his posts.
Sinan
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