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Re: code written under 5.10.0 to be run under 5.8.8 <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Re: code written under 5.10.0 to be run under 5.8.8 <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a s <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a s <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a s <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a s <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a s <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com>
Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a s <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com>
Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a s <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com>
Re: Perl DBI Module: SQL query where there is space in <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Re: Perl DBI Module: SQL query where there is space in <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Re: Perl DBI Module: SQL query where there is space in <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Re: Perl DBI Module: SQL query where there is space in <szrRE@szromanMO.comVE>
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 02:08:31 +0300
From: Sir Robin <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Subject: Re: code written under 5.10.0 to be run under 5.8.8
Message-Id: <lk4s24dsl55gjgsv2jlf1k7nj1ju7smbcp@4ax.com>
On Tue, 13 May 2008 03:39:15 GMT, Michael Carman <mjcarman@mchsi.com> wrote:
>Sir Robin wrote:
>> if I one day install couple older versions of perl5 to examine if my
>> scripts/apps needs newer version than whatever I have I pretty much
>> know that theres not much point to test most of the scripts with
>> anythin before 5.6.0.
>
>Perl 5.6.0 is old enough that there's generally not much point in
>testing with anything older. Authors of CPAN modules might want to
>support older versions but for typical programmers it's a waste
>of effort.
Thanks for the info :)
>> I could propably spend quite some time to check through every version
>> of perl and test them all when I start to go a bit nutty :D
>
>Don't. You only need to support the environments you're developing for.
>If you can count on v5.x installed use it and take advantage of whatever
>features it has to offer. There's no point in pursuing backward
>compatibility for its own sake.
True and I knew that, but thanks anyway :) However some of my programs are for
end-users and some of my perl code are plugins for the irc client Irssi and
are meant for anyone who finds them usefull - as I would ofthen have no idea
on what environments people could be running them I would like to have them
rather more backward compatible than less backward compatible ;)
I would not go beyond certain point on this but I have seen, for example, Unix
shell environments for using Irssi where other software besides Irssi is
sometimes dead old - and the end users of the system can't change that. If
it's not too much trouble then I'd love to make my code so that for example
they could use it...
>-mjc
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 02:10:00 +0300
From: Sir Robin <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Subject: Re: code written under 5.10.0 to be run under 5.8.8
Message-Id: <815s24lqvab3pacjunnntb4d997p84a439@4ax.com>
On 13 May 2008 10:31:32 GMT, Abigail <abigail@abigail.be> wrote:
>,, that would have resulted in all my perl code beeing certain
>,, working with the version mentioned with 'use' - because now that I have give
>,, thought to it I am quite confident on one single thing of this subject and
>,, that is I started with perl 5.6.x, so... So having now checked "Whats New in
>,, 5.6.0" list of new stuff I'd say that if I one day install couple older
>,, versions of perl5 to examine if my scripts/apps needs newer version than
>,, whatever I have I pretty much know that theres not much point to test most o
>,, the scripts with anythin before 5.6.0.. well at least not much before.
>
>You are misunderstanding "use feature". 5.010 came with a ton of new
>features that will be there regardless of whether you use "use feature"
>or not. Out of the many new features, only three of them require "use
>feature" (or "use 5.010").
Ok, thank you very much for clearing this up for me :)
>Abigail
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:57:05 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a speeding turtle
Message-Id: <Xns9AA0CAF44C89Casu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
chadda@lonemerchant.com wrote in news:53668582-db24-4534-8950-de30e9c96e10
@k10g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
> I 'll eventually have the input file filled with 350 million items.
Incidentally, if you could do three pages in a second, this corresponds to
about 3.7 years of continues scraping.
If you try to do this in massively parallel way, then it might be
considered a denial of service attack.
Of course, if you could do that, then the performance constraints of the
web server on the other and of the connection kick in.
I am not sure if it is a good idea for you to invest any more time &
resources into improving the performance of your script.
Sinan
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 01:05:41 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a speeding turtle
Message-Id: <Xns9AA0D695F7053asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
"Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com> wrote in
news:696881F30sdfjU1@mid.individual.net:
> A. Sinan Unur wrote:
>> "Gordon Etly" wrote in
>
>> > Jürgen Exner wrote:
>
>> Noting from the Anti-Troll FAQ:
>>
>> Subject: 7.6 Morphed Identity
>>
>> A morphed identity is when a poster has one usenet identity,
>
> Any email address is not an identity. It's an email address. The
> "Name" field is your identity), and I have not changed that.
> I am free to change my email address field however I wish,
> as are you and anyone else.
In newsgroups, your identity is your full handle. It does not matter if
that does not correspond to your real life identity. So, so long as you
pick one, and stick with it, no one has a problem with it.
Except,
>> Sender Address
>> The e-mail addresses given in "From:", "Reply-To:", and "Sender:"
>> should be valid (= should not bounce because of invalidity). Using
>> addresses and name space of other people without their permission is
>> prohibited.
You snipped the source of that rule. That is a rule stated by the
service provider you chose.
> Being in control of your mail server actually allows you to fulfill
> the "should not bounce because of invalidity" if you want to get down
> to that.
That's funny because most of the domain names you use are not
registered. I am not sure how you are running a mail servers for non-
existent domains.
Second, some of the domains you use are registered but do not seem to be
owned by someone named Gordon Etly.
> How a poster writes their email address is completely up to
> that person. A rather large amount of people munge their email
> addresses, so this isn't even an issue.
From other users' perspective, what matters is that you pick one and
stick with it. It seems like your service provider has explicit policies
prohibiting you from using non-existent domains or domains owned by
others. So, you should argue this point with them.
> Lastly, attempting to pose that "identity" on a medium like UseNet
> actually meaning something is idiotic at best. There is no guarantee
> that a name you see is a real name, and in many cases it is not. Many
> people use a "nick" name of sorts, and it is quite common to use a
> false or munged email address to thwart spammer email harvesting.
And that is completely irrelevant.
Sinan
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 02:04:11 GMT
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a speeding turtle
Message-Id: <1ses24ldj712pue90vqqie6qpfjmc95ris@4ax.com>
"Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com> wrote:
>Jürgen Exner wrote:
>> "Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bent-INVALID-sys.com> wrote:
>
>> > I'm just pointing out what is. It's you who keep bringing this upon
>> > yourself. You are constantly rude and arrogant to people, then you
>
>> Changing your identity again because everyone filtered you?
>
>1) My identity has never changed.
Oh really? So
Author: Gordon Etly <get@bentsys.com>
Author: Gordon Etly <getly@bentsys-INVALID.com>
Author: Gordon Etly <g.etly@bent-INVALID-sys.com>
was not you? How come that I don't believe you?
And now using identity number 4:
Author: Gordon Etly <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com>?
You must have a _REALLY_ bad reputation that you feel the need to change
your ID every other day.
>2) Why are you trying to speak for everyone. While certain people may
>share your view (and vice versa), it doesn't mean you speak for the
>whole of the group.
I never claimed to speak for anyone but myself.
jue
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 02:12:07 GMT
From: Jürgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a speeding turtle
Message-Id: <9gfs24lgvidll4mtrn88t2k39ibtolg8p3@4ax.com>
"Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com> wrote:
>Keith Keller wrote:
>> On 2008-05-16, Gordon Etly <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com> wrote:
>> There is no "Name" field. The From: header often includes both a name
>> and an email address.
>
>Many readers separate the "name" and "email" fields.
Nonsense. There is a From header. And maybe a ReplyTo header. And maybe
a FollowupTo header. But there is no such thing as a "Name" or an
"Email" header field in the first place.
>I never changed my
>name. The email address part of the From: line is not a atatic entity;
>one can always change their email address. It's anyone's right to do so,
>as it's their info. You're not suggesting an email address is a reliable
>way of tracking someone, are you?
If someone has to change it frequently then it is a very good indication
that that person has something to hide in their past. Why else would
they change their ID frequently?
Back you go to where you crawled out from
jue
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:20:16 -0700
From: "Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com>
Subject: Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a speeding turtle
Message-Id: <69717iF31cnjqU1@mid.individual.net>
Jürgen Exner wrote:
> "Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com> wrote:
> > Jürgen Exner wrote:
> > > "Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bent-INVALID-sys.com> wrote:
> > > > I'm just pointing out what is. It's you who keep bringing this
> > > > upon
> > > > yourself. You are constantly rude and arrogant to people, then
> > > > you
> > > Changing your identity again because everyone filtered you?
> > 1) My identity has never changed.
> Oh really? So
> Author: Gordon Etly <get@bentsys.com>
> Author: Gordon Etly <getly@bentsys-INVALID.com>
> Author: Gordon Etly <g.etly@bent-INVALID-sys.com>
> was not you?
My name never changed. Email address is not an identity, it's an email
address. They are a variable field. One can always change it, so stop
trying to use that as an argument here. I said before my name never
changed and you just proved that for me.
> > 2) Why are you trying to speak for everyone. While certain people
> > may
> > share your view (and vice versa), it doesn't mean you speak for the
> > whole of the group.
> I never claimed to speak for anyone but myself.
Not true:
( from above )
> > > Changing your identity again because everyone filtered you?
You clearly implied you knew -everyone- had done it. Stop trying to
misrepresent things in order to formulate your arguments.
--
G.Etly
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:28:42 -0700
From: "Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com>
Subject: Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a speeding turtle
Message-Id: <6971nbF31p7g3U1@mid.individual.net>
Jürgen Exner wrote:
> "Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com> wrote:
> > Keith Keller wrote:
> > > On 2008-05-16, Gordon Etly <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com> wrote:
> > > There is no "Name" field. The From: header often includes both a
> > > name and an email address.
> > Many readers separate the "name" and "email" fields.
> Nonsense. There is a From header. And maybe a ReplyTo header. And
> maybe a FollowupTo header. But there is no such thing as a "Name" or
> an "Email" header field in the first place.
No, most readers that I've used give separate fields for Name and Email.
It writes the From: header behind the scenes. Either way, it doesn't
change the fact that Email part is a variable field that can change at
any time. Whether it's from changing email providers, or any number of
reasons (which one is not required to disclose), it is a person's own
choice what they want to display to the public as an email address.
Hell, some providers don't even require an email address (I once had one
when I was in Europe for a few months that allowed "Name < >" (a space
for an email), which I realized when I forgot to enter an email. Granted
most don't allow it, but the point is what ever it is, it's up to the
poster.
> If someone has to change it frequently then it is a very good
> indication that that person has something to hide in their past.
Err... I never changed my name, so how could I possible be trying to
hide? Actualyl quite the oppisite, I change the way my email appears in
the From: like so I am -NOT- hidden :)
--
G.Etly
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:39:38 -0700
From: "Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com>
Subject: Re: Need ideas on how to make this code faster than a speeding turtle
Message-Id: <6972brF31aus1U1@mid.individual.net>
A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> "Gordon Etly" <g.etly@bentsys.INVALID.com> wrote in
> news:696881F30sdfjU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> A. Sinan Unur wrote:
>>> "Gordon Etly" wrote in
>>
>>>> Jürgen Exner wrote:
>>
>>> Noting from the Anti-Troll FAQ:
>>>
>>> Subject: 7.6 Morphed Identity
>>>
>>> A morphed identity is when a poster has one usenet identity,
>>
>> Any email address is not an identity. It's an email address. The
>> "Name" field is your identity), and I have not changed that.
>> I am free to change my email address field however I wish,
>> as are you and anyone else.
>
> In newsgroups, your identity is your full handle. It does not matter
> if that does not correspond to your real life identity. So, so long
> as you pick one, and stick with it, no one has a problem with it.
>
> Except,
>
> > > Sender Address
> > > The e-mail addresses given in "From:", "Reply-To:", and "Sender:"
> > > should be valid (= should not bounce because of invalidity). Using
> > > addresses and name space of other people without their permission
> > > is
> > > prohibited.
> You snipped the source of that rule. That is a rule stated by the
> service provider you chose.
So what? I am not violating it.
> > Being in control of your mail server actually allows you to fulfill
> > the "should not bounce because of invalidity" if you want to get
> > down
> > to that.
> That's funny because most of the domain names you use are not
> registered.
Please stop playing stupid. I am not the first to add "invalid" or
"nospam" or so to my email address. IT's a common practice and it've
never been prohibted by any privider I've come across. Bottom line: the
email address you enter is for public display and that's what many
harvesters look for.
> Second, some of the domains you use are registered
I only use one domain. You know very well about munging practices so
please stop feigning ignorance so suddenly.
> but do not seem to be owned by someone named Gordon Etly.
Come on, really. How many @aol, @yahoo, etc etc etc own those domains?
You know better than to make such an arugement. Most people -don't- own
the domain their email is in.
> > How a poster writes their email address is completely up to
> > that person. A rather large amount of people munge their email
> > addresses, so this isn't even an issue.
> From other users' perspective, what matters is that you pick one and
> stick with it.
One does not have to use the same email address. One is free to change
that to what ever they wish.
--
G.Etly
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 01:39:50 +0300
From: Sir Robin <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Subject: Re: Perl DBI Module: SQL query where there is space in field name
Message-Id: <qi2s2493m2uumsqrjjp4ceektlc6o5upge@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 May 2008 07:35:27 -0700, Andrew DeFaria <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote:
>And then there are assholes who will waste tons of bandwidth arguing
>that they are wasting bandwidth! Brilliant argument there bud.
I'm glad that you agree.
And don't
>forget those who repeat every least thing that the previous post had and
>add one line saying "I agree".
>> I do see a reason why a serious newsreader needs to be able to cut off
>> or (like Agent that I prefer) show the HTML garbage part as attachment
>> that you can load & save it if there were any reason to do so - while
>> there is no reason to open let alone save the garbage part this way at
>> least the garbage will only be shown as a little box way simpler to
>> simply ignore than huge pile of utterly useless HTML crap.
>Here's a wonderful reason - because it bothers you.
Say, you can't really read, can you? No, *I* can ignore it quite well but it
would indeed be a wonderful reason. My reason is that:
1. It bothers *others*.
2. No benefit whatsoever.
So GTFY.
>>>> If you post in HTML, there is a very high probability you are either
>>>> a troll, or a newbie.
>>> Ah... no.
>> Ah... yes.
>Ah... no. (If you wish to blurt out your opinion then I will blurt out
>mine).
Indeed - two times per one message even \o/
>> As it does not give any value to the content of your message, makes
>> your messages multiple times larger and for some readers it shows as a
>> huge amount of total crap and thus causes negativity - as I can see
>> only negative things resulting from HTML posting I can only come to
>> conclusion that after this has been specifically pointed to you
>> clearly you can be classified as a troll.
>I see - the "do it my way or you're a troll" opinion...
Yes, that is indeed my opinion on this case of the meaning for "my way".
>> As I see no advantages whatsoever, couple negative reactions that it
>> causes and I cant think of how it could possibly cause any harm,
>> problems or other negative stuff for you to not post in plaintext only,
>Great. Nobody's asking you to use it.
>> I definately do see that you are an anti-social prick
>And, of course, you're so damn social that you feel the need to tell
>people how to do things and then get upset and stamp your feet if they
>disagree.
Nope, not the people - so far you are the first one I've had to argue on this
topic... And aren't you so damn proud of it.
>> who needs to stick to doing something the way you first thought of
>> beeing good because you think that changing behaviour in away that
>> causes no harm to you or anyone but makes some peoples have more
>> positive experience would be, like, changing your opinion because
>> someone told you to.
>Yeah I thought it was beeing real good.
>> And then you would, like, not have any control at all, people would
>> see that you are a weakling and would be starting to tell you how to
>> do things and you could not have any opinions of your own and, like,
>> everything would suck because you had removed HTML version of the same
>> message in your posts.
>Man it pisses you off so that people don't puss out and do whatever you
>damn eh?
Not really... But you do like to think that way if anyone dares to say that
you are an ignorant prick with bad behaviour, don't you?
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 01:44:29 +0300
From: Sir Robin <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Subject: Re: Perl DBI Module: SQL query where there is space in field name
Message-Id: <7a3s24l1om3p678dk8vl1g6dcb614auao8@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:10:56 -0700, "szr" <szrRE@szromanMO.comVE> wrote:
>Sir Robin wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 12:23:46 -0700, Andrew DeFaria
>> <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote:
>>
>[...]
>> And there is no reason whatsoever why a newsreader should need to be
>> able to handle HTML
>
>What reason is there not to, to be honest? It is one thing not to like
>it, and it is completely another whether a reader should support it.
I have no reason to be dishonest about this.
>Since many other kinds of groups (which are usually non-technical) have
>a following that don't look so negatively on the use of HTML posting, it
>is perfectly reasonable for a reader to either support HTML or at least
>be able to parse multipart posts and pull the desired section.
I haven't seen such groups... I wouldn't like a group where people post in
HTML since my reader (Agent 2.0) does not render HTML and I would need to
double click the attachment box to open each message in web browser.
But if the rules of the group say that posting HTML is cool then who am I to
say anything? Heck, they can say that posting in DocBook format is OK if they
want to but I really would not see that as an argument for newsreaders top be
able to format that.
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 01:59:50 +0300
From: Sir Robin <robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org>
Subject: Re: Perl DBI Module: SQL query where there is space in field name
Message-Id: <tt3s24d4v8pojdvre088j56tuqgire4mg7@4ax.com>
On Mon, 12 May 2008 07:40:09 -0700, Andrew DeFaria <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote:
>Sir Robin wrote:
>> In most scenarios (the largest beeing the majority of all usenet
>> messages written in US-ASCII or with extended ASCII characterset on
>> many non-international newsgroups) HTML provides no benefits
>> whatsoever and annoys people.
>It annoys people who use antiquated news reading software who cannot
>handle it. I'm sure people still using lynx to browse the web are
>annoyed with those things called images and the like..
Why do you think so? I use Links (similiar to lynx but way more advanced) and
I don't expect to see the full content of pages - I don't bitch about it
because I know that I'm using a browser designed for limited capability
environment and thus I need to accept that not everything will be shown as it
was meant to.
Your posts to newsgroups then again are totally different from hypertext web
pages. They are just text messages with no benefit from beeing formatted with
hypertext markup language.
You are an ignorant fool about this. I would not bitch about you using HTML
where it was designed to be used - HTML allows using embedded objects that
browsers are not required to understand (java, flash, etc...) and need a
plugin but it's acceptable and defined in HTML that you can embed objects not
described in the language so I would not bitch to you about that either. You
are so stubborn on this subject that you don't seem to have a slightest glue
of the real reason why there are people who are bitching at you about this.
>> This alone clearly leads to conclusion that using this great
>> "innovation" that posting HTML copy of same text already coming in
>> plaintext is in regular usenet messages simply and plainly bad
>> behaviour. Now why would you insist on behaving badly?
>Strawman! It leads some people to bitch and complain that it's bad
>behavior. You can't make everybody happy. Haven't you heard?
You could try - what would you lose if you did?
>> I think you have mistaken people beeing afraid here with people beeing
>> annoyed here. I dont think anyone is afraid of HTML usenet garbage.
>There's that "beeing" again. A typo? I think not...
I apologize for any language problems I might have. As you can guess, english
is not my native language but I am trying to write it with minimal amount of
errors.
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:44:50 -0700
From: "szr" <szrRE@szromanMO.comVE>
Subject: Re: Perl DBI Module: SQL query where there is space in field name
Message-Id: <g0lkbj0276k@news4.newsguy.com>
Sir Robin wrote:
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:10:56 -0700, "szr" <szrRE@szromanMO.comVE>
> wrote:
>
>> Sir Robin wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 May 2008 12:23:46 -0700, Andrew DeFaria
>>> <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote:
>>>
>> [...]
>>> And there is no reason whatsoever why a newsreader should need to be
>>> able to handle HTML
>>
>> What reason is there not to, to be honest? It is one thing not to
>> like it, and it is completely another whether a reader should
>> support it.
>
> I have no reason to be dishonest about this.
I wasn't implying that. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
>> Since many other kinds of groups (which are usually non-technical)
>> have a following that don't look so negatively on the use of HTML
>> posting, it is perfectly reasonable for a reader to either support
>> HTML or at least be able to parse multipart posts and pull the
>> desired section.
>
> I haven't seen such groups... I wouldn't like a group where people
> post in HTML since my reader (Agent 2.0) does not render HTML and I
> would need to double click the attachment box to open each message in
> web browser.
Or your reader could be configured to only view the text/plain portion
:-)
I do agree with you though.
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