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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:41:27 -0700
From: "Steve K." <savagebeaste@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: cannot post message to perl beginners
Message-Id: <64h758F2c2hpnU1@mid.individual.net>
Abigail wrote:
> _
> John (john1949@yahoo.com) wrote on VCCCXII September MCMXCIII in
> <URL:news:frmg3e$1pk$1@news.albasani.net>:
> ~~ This is odd. I can post to this newsgroup but not to
> perl.beginners. ~~
> ~~ Anyone any idea why this is so?
>
>
> Are you using Net::NNTP? If so, what error message do you get?
> Are you sure it's a Perl problem? Do you really think this is
> the place to complain, and not your provider?
1) This question is pertaining to related forums for this news groups
central topic, Perl. This type of question has always been perfectly
valid.
2) Not everyone is as accustomed to usenet as you may be. Bet you never
stop to think about that.
3) Why is it you cannot normal quote characters that practically the
rest of usenet has deemed the de-facto standard quote character? You
want to be different? Fine. Please do it in a way that doesn't annoy the
living piss out of people.
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:30:45 +0000
From: Rosalind Mitchell <rcmitchell@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: cannot post message to perl beginners
Message-Id: <lcmcb5-f0d.ln1@ID-307228.user.uni-berlin.de>
Steve K. wrote:
> 2) Not everyone is as accustomed to usenet as you may be. Bet you never
> stop to think about that.
In a more civilised age of Usenet, unaccustomed users were recommended to
get accustomed to the conventions before posting...
Rosie
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:49:45 -0700
From: "Steve K." <savagebeaste@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: cannot post message to perl beginners
Message-Id: <64i3otF2bjm6fU1@mid.individual.net>
Rosalind Mitchell wrote:
> Steve K. wrote:
>
>> 2) Not everyone is as accustomed to usenet as you may be. Bet you
>> never stop to think about that.
>
> In a more civilised age of Usenet, unaccustomed users were
> recommended to get accustomed to the conventions before posting...
I agree, but at the same time, it is also a bit of a catch-22... someone
who just started using Usenet would obviously be unaware of many way of
doing things, and in the best cases, they are directed to the proper
documentation (like the posting guidelines and faq for this group for
example.) The problem is when people assume people should be first
coming onto Usenet already knowing everything you know about
'netiquette' and I really don't think it's fair. It's like expecting a
2nd grader to know algebra... possible, perhaps, but unlikely and
completely unfair to assume.
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: =?ISO-8859-7?B?zd/q7/I=?= <nikos1337@gmail.com>
Subject: Digest Authentication encoding issue
Message-Id: <33823dfe-d557-4154-8e3a-79019a45d692@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
Hello when i try the following code from cmd
htdigest -c "C:\path\passfile" "=CE=94=CE=B7=CE=BC=CE=B9=CE=BF=CF=85=CF=81=
=CE=B3=CE=AF=CE=B1 =CE=92=CE=AC=CF=83=CE=B7=CF=82 =CE=94=CE=B5=CE=B4=CE=BF=
=CE=BC=CE=AD=CE=BD=CF=89=CE=BD!" webmaster
[download]
console understand it as Adding password for webmaster in realm
=E2=95=AC=CE=A6=E2=95=AC=E2=95=96=E2=95=AC=E2=95=9D=E2=95=AC=E2=95=A3=E2=95=
=AC=E2=94=90=E2=95=A7=CE=96=E2=95=A7=CE=92=E2=95=AC=E2=94=82=E2=95=AC=CF=88=
=E2=95=AC=E2=96=92 =E2=95=AC=CE=A4=E2=95=AC=CF=85=E2=95=A7=CE=94=E2=95=AC=E2=
=95=96=E2=95=A7=CE=93 =E2=95=AC=CE=A6=E2=95=AC=E2=95=A1=E2=95=AC=E2=94=A4=E2=
=95=AC=E2=94=90=E2=95=AC =E2=95=9D=E2=95=AC=CF=86=E2=95=AC=E2=95=9C=E2=95=A7=
=CE=9A=E2=95=AC=E2=95=9C!. as a result not
a proper md5 crypt of the realm resultign to a faulty authentication
What can i do? Sorry for this not beign a perl questiosn i tried other
forums but i though of askignj this here perhaps to see if i can a
result by trying the same thing from within a perl script file. But
wont ti also use dos to take place like? in backticks still wotn work:
print `htdigest -c "C:\path\passfile" "=CE=94=CE=B7=CE=BC=CE=B9=CE=BF=CF=85=
=CF=81=CE=B3=CE=AF=CE=B1 =CE=92=CE=AC=CF=83=CE=B7=CF=82 =CE=94=CE=B5=CE=B4=
=CE=BF=CE=BC=CE=AD=CE=BD=CF=89=CE=BD!"
webmaster so what's left?
Here is what i my attempt to do the same thing through a cgi perl
script using the Digest::MD5 module
open FILE, ">>$ENV{'DOCUMENT_ROOT'}/some_path/some_other_path/
some_pass_file" or die $!; print FILE "webmaster:=CE=94=CE=B7=CE=BC=CE=B9=CE=
=BF=CF=85=CF=81=CE=B3=CE=AF=CE=B1 =CE=92=CE=AC=CF=83=CE=B7=CF=82
=CE=94=CE=B5=CE=B4=CE=BF=CE=BC=CE=AD=CE=BD=CF=89=CE=BD!:" .Digest::MD5::md5_=
hex("admin:=CE=94=CE=B7=CE=BC=CE=B9=CE=BF=CF=85=CF=81=CE=B3=CE=AF=CE=B1 =CE=
=92=CE=AC=CF=83=CE=B7=CF=82
=CE=94=CE=B5=CE=B4=CE=BF=CE=BC=CE=AD=CE=BD=CF=89=CE=BD!:this_is_the_pass") .=
"\n"; close FILE;
[download]
But when it comes to authentication when i enter the credentials
apache says there are wrong.
An encoding issue again? the init.pl file which the above code resides
is encoded in 'UTF-8'.
Please suggest something else than hitting my head on the wall
so please someone answer me, is this an encoding issue again?
Why when the user gives the username and password at http
authentication the credentials won't match the ones stored in the
password file?
What might be the problem? ?You think its encoding?
ps. I must tell you i aksed this in devshed and perlmonks but didnt
get any luck so iam posting here too for help. Thenk you.
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:10:55 -0700
From: "szr" <szrRE@szromanMO.comVE>
Subject: Re: FAQ 6.21 What's wrong with using grep in a void context?
Message-Id: <frvqig0204d@news2.newsguy.com>
benkasminbullock@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 21, 12:57 pm, "szr" <sz...@szromanMO.comVE> wrote:
>
>> So why not simply make grep context aware too? Seems grep would
>> benefit from this just as much, if not more, as map.
>
> I agree that if it's easy to make grep context aware, then they might
> as well. For example if "grep" is called in void context Perl could
> automatically replace the call to "grep" with one to "map".
>
> But as far as I know, "grep" wouldn't benefit from this. I think
> "grep" is exactly the same thing as "map" except for its return
> values. The difference in the return values is that "grep" returns a
> list of values where the evaluated expression or block is true,
> whereas "map" returns all the values. The side-effects of "grep" and
> "map" are identical. Thus calling "grep" in a void context has exactly
> the same effect as calling "map", and the FAQ entry is just saying if
> you are going to ignore the return value, there is a penalty to using
> "grep", so you should have used "map".
I get that, though I think there may be some cases where one might want
to use grep and it's filtering to compare the 'size' it returns to the
original size of the array.
For example:
my @a1 = ( [qw/A B C/], [qw/D E F/], [qw/G H I/] );
my @a2 = ( [qw/A B C/], [qw/D E F/], [qw/G H I/] );
my $match =
@a1 == grep { my $i = $_;
@{$a1[$i]} == grep {
$a1[$i][$_] eq $a2[$i][$_];
} (0..$#{$a1[$i]})
} (0..$#a1);
print $match;
I don't see why there should be a performance penalty in this example,
if it was avoided with map. Making grep context aware would be real nice
if you change the arrays to have 100_000 elements each.
--
szr
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:40:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: generic declaration of variables
Message-Id: <9b37b344-2886-4d9d-b434-6a870b878a13@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
In your script below, I have not seen the construction used on line 7.
On Mar 20, 7:48 pm, "benkasminbull...@gmail.com"
> #! perl
> use warnings;
> use strict;
> my @usage=qw/afile gfile ffile outname gensf genqcf genpf/;
> die "Usage: cg.pl @usage\n" if @ARGV < @usage;
> my %args;
> @args{@usage} = @ARGV;
> print join (" ", %args),"\n";
@ARVG is the array passed in from the CL.
@usage is the array created on line 4.
%args is the hash you use to link @ARGV and @usage.
I understand how you can iterate through the hash like this, where
each hash element has the (scalar) name $args{$key}:
foreach my $key (keys %args){print "\t$key => $args{$key}\n";}
What I DON'T understand is the use of the @ symbol to declare array
elements, as in @args{@usage}. I've searched for documentation of this
usage but have not found it. I can see how you would pass @ARGV to
@usage to copy one array to another, as in @second = @first.
I can't see how you can represent %args as @args, even though
accessing individual elements by $args{} is clear. I would appreciate
it greatly if you could explain the workings to me, or refer me to
some documentation of this feature.
Thanks, CC.
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Date: 21 Mar 2008 08:41:09 -0600
From: Lawrence Statton <yankeeinexile@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: generic declaration of variables
Message-Id: <8763vgrvga.fsf@hummer.cluon.com>
ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> writes:
> In your script below, I have not seen the construction used on line 7.
>
> On Mar 20, 7:48 pm, "benkasminbull...@gmail.com"
> > #! perl
> > use warnings;
> > use strict;
> > my @usage=qw/afile gfile ffile outname gensf genqcf genpf/;
> > die "Usage: cg.pl @usage\n" if @ARGV < @usage;
> > my %args;
> > @args{@usage} = @ARGV;
> > print join (" ", %args),"\n";
>
> @ARVG is the array passed in from the CL.
> @usage is the array created on line 4.
> %args is the hash you use to link @ARGV and @usage.
>
> [deletia...]
>
> What I DON'T understand is the use of the @ symbol to declare array
hash
> elements, as in @args{@usage}. I've searched for documentation of this
> usage but have not found it. I can see how you would pass @ARGV to
> @usage to copy one array to another, as in @second = @first.
It's a hash slice
Some code to elucidate slices:
In an ARRAY (because they're slightly more intuitive ...)
my @person;
$person[0] = 'Fred';
$person[3] = 'Mary';
$person[5] = 'Georgia';
OR you can combine that into
@person[0,3,5] = qw / Fred Mary Georgia /;
Now, we can do the same thing with a HASH
my %hash;
$hash{apple} = 'Red';
$hash{banana} = 'Yellow';
$hash{kiwi} = 'Green';
OR
my %hash;
@hash{qw/ apple banana kiwi /} = qw/ Red Yellow Green /;
> I can't see how you can represent %args as @args, even though
> accessing individual elements by $args{} is clear. I would appreciate
> it greatly if you could explain the workings to me, or refer me to
> some documentation of this feature.
`perldoc perldata` offers....
If you're confused about why you use an '@' there on a hash slice
instead of a '%', think of it like this. The type of bracket (square or
curly) governs whether it's an array or a hash being looked at. On the
other hand, the leading symbol ('$' or '@') on the array or hash
indicates whether you are getting back a singular value (a scalar) or a
plural one (a list).
--
Lawrence Statton - lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom s/aba/c/g
Computer software consists of only two components: ones and
zeros, in roughly equal proportions. All that is required is to
place them into the correct order.
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: generic declaration of variables
Message-Id: <e4eba3e7-d40b-4cf8-ba20-33abc4c96456@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
On Mar 21, 9:41 am, Lawrence Statton <yankeeinex...@gmail.com> wrote:
> `perldoc perldata` offers....
>
> If you're confused about why you use an '@' there on a hash slice
> instead of a '%', think of it like this. The type of bracket (square or
> curly) governs whether it's an array or a hash being looked at. On the
> other hand, the leading symbol ('$' or '@') on the array or hash
> indicates whether you are getting back a singular value (a scalar) or a
> plural one (a list).
Thanks. I was afraid that I would get an answer like this, 'You do it
that way because Larry said to.' I understood the operation because I
had modified the code in question and had run it several times to
determine if it in fact worked as advertised. It did.
I didn't understand the concept, but now I see it. I'm not entirely
comfortable with it, but I at least have a head knowledge, and assume
that the experiential knowledge will come with use. Perl has been
accused of being willfully obscure, and at moments like this I
sympathize with this accusation.
Thanks again for your explanation. It did indeed do the trick.
CC
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Date: 21 Mar 2008 09:50:23 -0600
From: Lawrence Statton <yankeeinexile@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: generic declaration of variables
Message-Id: <87d4pokreo.fsf@hummer.cluon.com>
ccc31807 <cartercc@gmail.com> writes:
> Thanks. I was afraid that I would get an answer like this, 'You do it
> that way because Larry said to.'
I don't understand that statement at all -- every language has it's
syntax rules ... When writing C we use parens to indicate function
calls, not because Dennis said to, but because that's what the
compiler will accept.
>
> I didn't understand the concept, but now I see it. I'm not entirely
> comfortable with it, but I at least have a head knowledge,
Well, if slice notation is uncomfortable to you, there is no
compulsion to use it.
>
> Thanks again for your explanation. It did indeed do the trick.
>
--
Lawrence Statton - lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom s/aba/c/g
Computer software consists of only two components: ones and
zeros, in roughly equal proportions. All that is required is to
place them into the correct order.
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