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Today's topics:
Re: perl standard <uri@stemsystems.com>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <joe@inwap.com>
Re: perl standard <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: perl standard <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <jeremy.numer@nowhere.example.com>
Re: perl standard <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: perl standard <RedGrittyBrick@SpamWeary.foo>
Re: perl standard <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: splitting a line <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: splitting a line <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Re: splitting a line <jeremy.numer@nowhere.example.com>
Re: splitting a line <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
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Re: splitting a line <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:34:40 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <x74pgkj4z4.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "WW" == Wade Ward <zaxfuuq@invalid.net> writes:
WW> "Uri Guttman" <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote in message
>>
>> i think wade is reenacting the attack on perl harbor with the ladies
>> auxillary. (otherwise known as mud wrestling :).
>>
>> as for wanted a formal ISO/ANSI spec, that is hilarious. has he ever
>> actually seen one? i worked on compilers with the ANSI PL/I spec and i
>> still haven't recovered from the loss of brain cells.
WW> So there exists an ISO doc that has some relevance to perl?
huh?? where did i state that. i said i have worked with the ANSI spec
for PL/I, not perl. there is no spec for perl and none needed for
perl5. perl 6 will have a spec but it will likely not be an ISO/ASNI
standard. but who knows. now please drop this insane issue you have with
a perl5 standard. there ain't one and never gonna be one.
WW> How many battleships are in the harbor? By the time I get to AZ.
8
uri
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:39:46 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <usudnV-haInDg4banZ2dnUVZ_rWtnZ2d@comcast.com>
tschüess
--
wade ward
wade@zaxfuuq.net
"Der Katze tritt die Treppe hoch; Der Kater tritt sie krumm.%
% De Teufel geit um; er bringt de menschen allet dumm."
schau, schau
"Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:QFCSi.528$Qj3.86@trndny01...
> Wade Ward wrote:
>> "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:GOqSi.64$qo2.60@trndny06...
>>> Wade Ward wrote:
>>>> "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> Wade Ward wrote:
>>>>>> [...]Does the PPL have a similar list?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, today the ICAO is responsible for standardizing PPL
>>>>> requirements worldwide [...]
>>>>> But what does this have to do with the subject of this NG?
>>>
>>>> everything.
>>>
>>> I appologize for my limited imagination, but I don't see any possible
>>> relation between the computer programming language Perl and/or its
>>> implemention on the one side and PPL and the ICAO on the other side.
>>> Would you mind to elaborate, please?
> [...]
>> How can C and Fortran operate with perl, when they seem to have
>> successfully gotten out of standardization, with dates and times?
>
> Obviously you not able to write a comprehensible question or provide a
> coherent answer when asked for clarification. I am giving up. So long
> then.
>
> jue
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:43:47 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <VKednWp-8anTgobanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Uri Guttman" <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote in message
news:x74pgkj4z4.fsf@mail.sysarch.com...
>>>>>> "WW" == Wade Ward <zaxfuuq@invalid.net> writes:
>
> WW> "Uri Guttman" <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> i think wade is reenacting the attack on perl harbor with the ladies
> >> auxillary. (otherwise known as mud wrestling :).
> >>
> >> as for wanted a formal ISO/ANSI spec, that is hilarious. has he ever
> >> actually seen one? i worked on compilers with the ANSI PL/I spec and i
> >> still haven't recovered from the loss of brain cells.
> WW> So there exists an ISO doc that has some relevance to perl?
>
> huh?? where did i state that. i said i have worked with the ANSI spec
> for PL/I, not perl. there is no spec for perl and none needed for
> perl5. perl 6 will have a spec but it will likely not be an ISO/ASNI
> standard. but who knows. now please drop this insane issue you have with
> a perl5 standard. there ain't one and never gonna be one.
What if you got defined without permission? No polling a bunch of hippies.
> WW> How many battleships are in the harbor? By the time I get to AZ.
>
> 8
Search or Offer Perl Jobs ----------------------------
http://jobs.perl.org
What if f2008 says that perl is a common C extension?
Good time for a lu-au-um-laut-dings. Tja.
--
wade ward
wade@zaxfuuq.net
"Dee Katze tritt die Treppe hoch; Der Kater tritt sie krumm.%
% De Teufel geit um; er bringt de menschen allet dumm."
schau, schau
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 04:04:31 -0700
From: Joe Smith <joe@inwap.com>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <jqWdneX5X8Kjr4banZ2dnUVZ_u7inZ2d@comcast.com>
Wade Ward wrote:
> I'm embarrassed now
That, by itself, is sufficient.
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:39:22 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <kfemh3dhfetb5rb6h4hggrkgbl3qv4ugaj@4ax.com>
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:27:07 +0900, "Ben Bullock"
<benkasminbullock@gmail.com> wrote:
>> No you can just fine. In fact you did, and you were answered, even
>> though you didn't like the answer. Happens...
>
>No, you did not answer the question. Happens...
No I did:
: >In other words you're admitting that the language isn't actually defined
: >anywhere.
:
: Yep, sort of. So what?
I'm also admitting that you're right. So I can't see how did I fail to
answer. Whether my answer is correct, let alone satisfying, is a whole
another matter.
>I don't remember questioning Larry Wall's decision-making powers anywhere,
>but I suppose when you've been defeated by someone in a discussion you have
>to try to change the subject.
Yeah, but I'm much worse than that.
Michele
--
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(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
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256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:46:04 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <ememh3l6kcedmpaat293eavnjs05453hpm@4ax.com>
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:07:37 -0700, sln@netherlands.co wrote:
>Perl is a "hack" script language, defined by some "implementation", on some
>day, at some point in time. As such, it doesen't rise, and will not rise to,
>a level of a needing a standard. This is what won't be said here.
No, we already said it here, except that we give a positive
connotation to the circumstance instead of a negative one.
>Ask Microsoft why they don't do a flavor of Perl. Is it because Larry (and a few
>others) said no? Surely Microsoft could make a much more POWERFULL Perl.
Also a much more POWERFULL Perll.
>Bottom line, Perl does not have, nor never will have a Standard. It's nothing special
>at all. It is cryptic, I'll give u that though.
Well this is not entirely true, given that for Perl 6 the language is
going to be formalized first and then multiple implementations can
exist: an interesting fact being that still evoultion of the language
proper and the development of prototype implementation are processing
in a parallel manner, with a continuous exchange between the two
areas.
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:51:31 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <FtSdnYLSkoujoIbanZ2dnUVZ_sejnZ2d@comcast.com>
news:ememh3l6kcedmpaat293eavnjs05453hpm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:07:37 -0700, sln@netherlands.co wrote:
>
>>Perl is a "hack" script language, defined by some "implementation", on
>>some
>>day, at some point in time. As such, it doesen't rise, and will not rise
>>to,
>>a level of a needing a standard. This is what won't be said here.
>
> No, we already said it here, except that we give a positive
> connotation to the circumstance instead of a negative one.
>
>>Ask Microsoft why they don't do a flavor of Perl. Is it because Larry (and
>>a few
>>others) said no? Surely Microsoft could make a much more POWERFULL Perl.
>
> Also a much more POWERFULL Perll.
>
>>Bottom line, Perl does not have, nor never will have a Standard. It's
>>nothing special
>>at all. It is cryptic, I'll give u that though.
>
> Well this is not entirely true, given that for Perl 6 the language is
> going to be formalized first and then multiple implementations can
> exist: an interesting fact being that still evoultion of the language
> proper and the development of prototype implementation are processing
> in a parallel manner, with a continuous exchange between the two
> areas.
Yes.
--
wade ward
wade@zaxfuuq.net
"Die Katze tritt die Treppe hoch; Der Kater tritt sie krumm.%
% De Teufel geit um; er bringt de menschen allet dumm."
schau, schau
}#JAPH,
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:58:22 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <ZYmdnWaNocVHo4banZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com>
Was hat also, Professor Einstein mit dienem sig zu tun?
Was ist also einfach? Welch veryu"engung kann's geben?
,Simple groups? Because that shit was hard to learn. We all retain that
specidific one in the pacifxc coast f representatons and thompson. pg. 466.
tja.
and tja again.
--
wade ward
wade@zaxfuuq.net
>> I'm embarrassed now
>
> That, by itself, is sufficient.
What was nece?
]
--mel brroks?
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:56:21 -0500
From: Jeremy Numer <jeremy.numer@nowhere.example.com>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <13hmh20b56agu63@corp.supernews.com>
On 10/21/2007 02:30 AM, Wade Ward wrote:
> [...]
> How can C and Fortran operate with perl, when they seem to have successfully
> gotten out of standardization, with dates and times?
A day or two ago you were making perfect sense. You completed sentences,
you responded directly and intelligibly to questions and looked like a
normal person.
What happened?
Anyway, Perl can read and write ISO standard dates and time using the
proper functions and modules.
Read the docs for HTTP::Date and search CPAN for Date:: modules.
Many people only need POSIX::strftime to get properly formatted dates.
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:23:20 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <34hmh3ho81kqi8upunpfck3sbki925r5cc@4ax.com>
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:30:22 -0700, "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
wrote:
>How can C and Fortran operate with perl, when they seem to have successfully
>gotten out of standardization, with dates and times?
They can operate just fine, in several ways, regardless of their
standardized status or not, which is a mostly orthogonal matter.
Michele
--
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(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:23:58 +0100
From: RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@SpamWeary.foo>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <9rednU5Sn-B52Yba4p2dnAA@bt.com>
sln@netherlands.co wrote:
> Perl is a "hack" script language, defined by some "implementation", on some
> day, at some point in time. As such, it doesen't rise, and will not rise to,
> a level of a needing a standard. This is what won't be said here.
> Its no different than any other "hack" scripting language out there, that
> are born, live a half-life, then die (or evolve before its death) a disinterrested
> death.
But those can all be viewed as good things :-)
> Ask Microsoft why they don't do a flavor of Perl.
Apparently, Microsoft distribute two versions of Perl with their SFU
product. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_Services_for_UNIX
Whilst much of SFU has been included with Vista Ultimate, I suspect Perl
has been omitted.
> Surely Microsoft could make a much more POWERFULL Perl.
Microsoft are *not* much interested in cross-platform languages. I think
Microsoft would be more likely to create a Win32 or .NET specific Perl
that is unusable on other platforms. Like J++ and C# (prior to Miguel de
Icaza's independent efforts) can be viewed as attempts by Microsoft to
Balkanize Java.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish.
As Joel Spolsky put it: "Smart companies try to commoditize their
products' complements."
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/StrategyLetterV.html
Microsoft implementing a "standard" Perl would be commoditising the O/S.
Microsoft implementing a Perl++ where Win32::API was merged into the
language core and non Win32 APIs dropped would be more useful to
Microsoft I think.
Of course, I expect Microsoft would prefer it's customers to do their
scripting in PowerShell.
But what do I know? :-)
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:57:33 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <g0jmh3hip516koo1l2b69tq7j2nds3n8ob@4ax.com>
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:34:40 GMT, Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
wrote:
> WW> So there exists an ISO doc that has some relevance to perl?
>
>huh?? where did i state that. i said i have worked with the ANSI spec
>for PL/I, not perl. there is no spec for perl and none needed for
I think he may have been mislead by the "PL" in PL/I which for some
reson could make him think it has to do with Perl.
Wade, please refer to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL/I
for more info. All this of course, is very OT.
Michele
--
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(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:56:09 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: splitting a line
Message-Id: <ptKdnbjeL7aov4banZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cACSi.851$Y23.18@trndny04...
> Wade Ward wrote:
>> "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:AJBSi.750$6P3.428@trndny02...
>>> Wade Ward wrote:
>>>> In fortran you put ampersand at the end of line .3 and at the
>>>> beginning of line .7:
>>>> statement .2
>> usenet is about 80 chars wide.
>> I don't like exceeding 65.
>
> That's great and very considerate of you.
It's not so much great as considerate. Very--.
> Unfortunately it still doesn't explain what a .3 line, a .7 line, and a .2
> statement are supposed to be.
>
>> If there were--and it sounds like there really is only one line in a
>> perlscript--
>> one line in a perlscript
>> , how would I put it on usenet without making huge errors?
>
> As far as Perl and perl are concerned there are no lines in a Perl
> script(*) at all. It's like asking how many inches are in a cup of sugar.
> Yeah, there are ways to measure the hight of the sugar, but the baking
> recipie doesn't care because it measures in cups.
>
> Lines are useful organizational aides for human readability and nobody
> should dismiss their importance.
> So just use them to structure the optical layout of your program text such
> that it is the easiest to read. "perldoc perlstyle" has some good
> recommendations.
>
> (*) Please note, I'm assuming you are talking about the programming
> language Perl and scripts written in this language. Perlscript does exist,
> too, and it is quite a different animal.
??
>>>> Is there a zeroeth order substittution to make the above
>>>> syntactically-correct perl?
>>>
>>> I have no idea what a "zeroeth order substittution" is.
>> You get out of your depth pretty quickly in logic.
0th order logic does what michele just did. It can take any word and
replace it.
Michele iz a dago. =>
Michele iz a wop =>.
Michele iz a hot_bitch. =>
Shit_I_should_know_I_fucked_her iz a hot_bitch.
=>
a.
1234567891234567892123456789312345678941234567895123456789612345
>
> Yeah, I am known to have poor mindreading capabilities.
A categorical falsehood.
>> Not everybody's thang.
>
> What on earth are you talking about??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thang
It's your thang,
do what you want to do.
Jürg, I can't afford to have you give up. That's puts me all in. That puts
*you* all in.
--
wade ward
wade@zaxfuuq.net
"Det Katzchen tritt det Trepp hoch youbetcha; Der Kater tritt sie krumm.%
% De Teufel geit um; er bringt de menschen allet dumm."
schau, schau
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:46:24 GMT
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@seesig.invalid>
Subject: Re: splitting a line
Message-Id: <slrnfhmel4.p8l.tadmc@tadmc30.sbcglobal.net>
Wade Ward <zaxfuuq@invalid.net> wrote:
> One of my goals for last night's reading was to figure out how to split up a
> line of a script. I have syntax confusion on this point,
Duh, then you should read the std docs regarding Perl's syntax.
> not helped by
> being unable to find anything on it in the camel book.
The 2nd paragraph in
perldoc perlsyn
Perl is a free-form language, you can format and indent it
however you like.
> Since perl has semicolons at the end of statements,
Perl (nor perl) has semicolons at the end of statements.
Perl has semicolons *between* statements.
Many other programming languages use semicolon as a "statement terminator",
Perl however uses semicolons as a "statement separator".
--
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:48:48 -0500
From: Jeremy Numer <jeremy.numer@nowhere.example.com>
Subject: Re: splitting a line
Message-Id: <13hmh21efqmvi65@corp.supernews.com>
On 10/21/2007 05:56 AM, Wade Ward wrote:
> 0th order logic does what michele just did. It can take any word and
> replace it.
> [...]
>
1. Wikipedia and wiktionary searches for "zeroth order substitution"
don't turn up anything.
2. Michele is a man.
3. Michele hasn't said anything in this thread yet.
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:22:14 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: splitting a line
Message-Id: <ge-dnROA_t_v2YbanZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Tad McClellan" <tadmc@seesig.invalid> wrote in message
news:slrnfhmel4.p8l.tadmc@tadmc30.sbcglobal.net...
> Wade Ward <zaxfuuq@invalid.net> wrote:
>> One of my goals for last night's reading was to figure out how to split
>> up a
>> line of a script. I have syntax confusion on this point,
>
>
> Duh, then you should read the std docs regarding Perl's syntax.
34 fucking tabs. Where;s evelyn ruud?
>> not helped by
>> being unable to find anything on it in the camel book.
>
>
> The 2nd paragraph in
>
> perldoc perlsyn
I'll try to imagine what 2 and 34 have to do with each other. The answer of
cousre is gauss.
> Perl is a free-form language, you can format and indent it
> however you like.
>
>
>> Since perl has semicolons at the end of statements,
>
>
> Perl (nor perl) has semicolons at the end of statements.
?
> Perl has semicolons *between* statements.
>
> Many other programming languages use semicolon as a "statement
> terminator",
> Perl however uses semicolons as a "statement separator".
ok
> email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"
34 TABS TO GET THROUgh IT?
--
wade ward
wade@zaxfuuq.net
"Dee Katze tritt die Treppe hoch; Der Kater tritt sie krumm.%
% De Teufel geit um; er bringt de menschen allet dumm."
schau, schau
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:46:12 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: splitting a line
Message-Id: <2OGdnRjhYLSS14banZ2dnUVZ_qWtnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Jeremy Numer" <jeremy.numer@nowhere.example.com> wrote in message
news:13hmh21efqmvi65@corp.supernews.com...
> On 10/21/2007 05:56 AM, Wade Ward wrote:
>> 0th order logic does what michele just did. It can take any word and
>> replace it.
>> [...]
the def ^^^^^.
> 1. Wikipedia and wiktionary searches for "zeroth order substitution" don't
> turn up anything.
It should plebably be "zeroeth."
> 2. Michele is a man.
To you. I think you have no idea hoew false this statemwnent is.
> 3. Michele hasn't said anything in this thread yet.
Wait about five minutes.
--
wade ward
wade@zaxfuuq.net
"Der Katze tritt die Treppe hoch; Der Kater tritt sie krumm.%
% De Teufel geit um; er bringt de menschen allet dumm."
schau, schau
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Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:02:10 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: splitting a line
Message-Id: <sbjmh31m2et70o7f17r86eqbb82phoh239@4ax.com>
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:45:28 GMT, "Jürgen Exner"
<jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>As far as Perl and perl are concerned there are no lines in a Perl script(*)
>at all. It's like asking how many inches are in a cup of sugar. Yeah, there
I would say that "fundamentally" there are no lines. Consider e.g.
comments, regexen, literal strings.
>(*) Please note, I'm assuming you are talking about the programming language
>Perl and scripts written in this language. Perlscript does exist, too, and
>it is quite a different animal.
Yes, he's talking about the "PPL"! :P
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: 6 Apr 2001 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
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