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Today's topics:
Re: "Can't locate object method "PV" via package "B::SP <tony@skelding.co.uk>
Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love <xah@xahlee.org>
new CPAN modules on Sat Oct 20 2007 (Randal Schwartz)
Re: perl standard <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: perl standard <benkasminbullock@gmail.com>
Re: printing a subject line <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:35:34 -0700
From: Mintcake <tony@skelding.co.uk>
Subject: Re: "Can't locate object method "PV" via package "B::SPECIAL""
Message-Id: <1192847734.203733.170150@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 20, 5:53 am, kj <so...@987jk.com.invalid> wrote:
> When I try to use B::Lint I get the error
>
> Can't locate object method "PV" via package "B::SPECIAL""
>
> Does anyone know where B::SPECIAL is defined?
>
> TIA,
>
> kj
> --
> NOTE: In my address everything before the first period is backwards;
> and the last period, and everything after it, should be discarded.
The B-Specials: Armed, part-time section of the Royal Ulster
Constabulary. The B-Specials helped to police Northern Ireland between
their formation in 1920 to their abolition in 1969. They were replaced
by the Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR) in 1970.
I trust this is the information you require. If not then your
original question was not specific enough.
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:28:14 -0700
From: Xah Lee <xah@xahlee.org>
Subject: Distributed RVS, Darcs, tech love
Message-Id: <1192850894.310464.89070@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
When i first heard about distributed revision control system about 2
years ago, i heard of Darcs, which is written in Haskell. I was hugely
excited, thinking about the functional programing i love, and the no-
side effect pure system i idolize, and the technology of human animal
i rapture in daily.
I have no serious actual need to use a revision system (RVS) in recent
years, so i never really tried Darcs (nor using any RVS). I just
thought the new-fangled distributed tech in combination of Haskell was
great.
About few months ago, i was updating a 6-year old page i wrote on unix
tools: ( http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/usoft.html ) and i was
trying to update myself on the current state of art of revision
systems. I read Wikipedia this passage:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darcs
=C2=AB Darcs currently has a number of significant bugs (see e.g. [1]). The
most severe of them is "the Conflict bug" - an exponential blowup in
time needed to perform conflict resolution during merges, reaching
into the hours and days for "large" repositories. A redesign of the
repository format and wide-ranging changes in the codebase are planned
in order to fix this bug, and work on this is planned to start in
Spring 2007 [2]. =C2=BB
This somewhat bursted my bubble, as there always was some doubt in the
back of my mind about just how Darcs is not just a fantasy-ware
trumpeted by a bunch of functional tech geekers. (i heard of Darcs in
irc emacs and haskell channels, who are often student and hobbiests
programers)
Also, in my light research, it was to my surprise, that Darcs is not
the only distributed systems, and perhaps not the first one neither,
contrary to my impressions. In fact, today there are quite a LOT
distributed revision systems, actually as a norm. When one looks into
these, such as Git ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software) ) one
finds that some of them are already in practical industrial use for
large projects, as opposed to Darcs's academic/hobbist kind of
community.
In addition to these findings, one additional that greatly pissed me
off entirely about Darcs, is the intro of the author (David Roundy)'s
essay about his (questionable-sounding) =E2=80=9Ctheory of patches=E2=80=9D=
used in
Darcs. ( http://darcs.net/manual/node8.html#Patch )
Here's the 2 passages:
=C2=ABI think a little background on the author is in order. I am a
physicist, and think like a physicist. The proofs and theorems given
here are what I would call ``physicist'' proofs and theorems, which is
to say that while the proofs may not be rigorous, they are practical,
and the theorems are intended to give physical insight. It would be
great to have a mathematician work on this, but I am not a
mathematician, and don't care for math.=C2=BB
=C2=ABFrom the beginning of this theory, which originated as the result of
a series of email discussions with Tom Lord, I have looked at patches
as being analogous to the operators of quantum mechanics. I include in
this appendix footnotes explaining the theory of patches in terms of
the theory of quantum mechanics. I know that for most people this
won't help at all, but many of my friends (and as I write this all
three of darcs' users) are physicists, and this will be helpful to
them. To non-physicists, perhaps it will provide some insight into how
at least this physicist thinks.=C2=BB
I love math. I respect Math. I'm nothing but a menial servant to
Mathematics. Who the fuck is this David guy, who proclaims that he's
no mathematician, then proceed to tell us he dosen't fucking care
about math? Then, he went on about HIS personal fucking zeal for
physics, in particular injecting the highly quacky =E2=80=9Cquantum mechani=
cs=E2=80=9D
with impunity.
Xah
xah@xahlee.org
=E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:42:15 GMT
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal Schwartz)
Subject: new CPAN modules on Sat Oct 20 2007
Message-Id: <Jq712F.ruE@zorch.sf-bay.org>
The following modules have recently been added to or updated in the
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN). You can install them using the
instructions in the 'perlmodinstall' page included with your Perl
distribution.
AI-FANN-0.08
http://search.cpan.org/~salva/AI-FANN-0.08/
Perl wrapper for the Fast Artificial Neural Network library
----
Bundle-Perl6-0.10
http://search.cpan.org/~marcel/Bundle-Perl6-0.10/
A bundle to install Perl6-related modules
----
CORBA-C-2.61
http://search.cpan.org/~perrad/CORBA-C-2.61/
----
CORBA-Cplusplus-0.41
http://search.cpan.org/~perrad/CORBA-Cplusplus-0.41/
----
CORBA-IDL-2.61
http://search.cpan.org/~perrad/CORBA-IDL-2.61/
----
CORBA-JAVA-2.61
http://search.cpan.org/~perrad/CORBA-JAVA-2.61/
----
CORBA-Perl-0.41
http://search.cpan.org/~perrad/CORBA-Perl-0.41/
----
CORBA-Python-2.61
http://search.cpan.org/~perrad/CORBA-Python-2.61/
----
CORBA-XPIDL-0.21
http://search.cpan.org/~perrad/CORBA-XPIDL-0.21/
----
CORBA-XS-0.61
http://search.cpan.org/~perrad/CORBA-XS-0.61/
----
CPANPLUS-Dist-Deb-0.10
http://search.cpan.org/~kane/CPANPLUS-Dist-Deb-0.10/
----
CPANPLUS-Dist-Mdv-0.1.1
http://search.cpan.org/~jquelin/CPANPLUS-Dist-Mdv-0.1.1/
a cpanplus backend to build mandriva rpms
----
Catalyst-Plugin-Alarm-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~karman/Catalyst-Plugin-Alarm-0.03/
call an action with a timeout value
----
CatalystX-CRUD-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~karman/CatalystX-CRUD-0.01/
CRUD framework for Catalyst applications
----
CatalystX-CRUD-Controller-RHTMLO-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~karman/CatalystX-CRUD-Controller-RHTMLO-0.01/
----
Chart-Plot-Canvas-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~perrad/Chart-Plot-Canvas-0.03/
Plot two dimensional data in an Tk Canvas.
----
Class-Accessor-Complex-0.05
http://search.cpan.org/~marcel/Class-Accessor-Complex-0.05/
arrays, hashes, booleans, integers, sets and more
----
Class-Accessor-Constructor-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~marcel/Class-Accessor-Constructor-0.01/
constructor generator
----
DBD-Mock-1.36
http://search.cpan.org/~rkinyon/DBD-Mock-1.36/
Mock database driver for testing
----
DBIx-Class-DynamicSubclass-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~syber/DBIx-Class-DynamicSubclass-0.01/
Convenient way to use dynamic subclassing.
----
DBIx-Class-DynamicSubclass-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~syber/DBIx-Class-DynamicSubclass-0.02/
Convenient way to use dynamic subclassing.
----
DBIx-Class-FrozenColumns-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~syber/DBIx-Class-FrozenColumns-0.03/
Store virtual columns inside another column.
----
Data-FormValidator-4.52
http://search.cpan.org/~markstos/Data-FormValidator-4.52/
Validates user input (usually from an HTML form) based on input profile.
----
Directory-Scratch-0.13
http://search.cpan.org/~jrockway/Directory-Scratch-0.13/
Easy-to-use self-cleaning scratch space.
----
Excel-Template-0.29
http://search.cpan.org/~rkinyon/Excel-Template-0.29/
Excel::Template
----
ExtUtils-PkgConfig-1.08
http://search.cpan.org/~mlehmann/ExtUtils-PkgConfig-1.08/
simplistic interface to pkg-config
----
FCGI-IIS-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~cosmicnet/FCGI-IIS-0.04/
FCGI wrapper for MS IIS FastCGI
----
File-DirList-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~tpaba/File-DirList-0.04/
provide a sorted list of directory content
----
Graphics-GnuplotIF-1.3.0
http://search.cpan.org/~mehner/Graphics-GnuplotIF-1.3.0/
A dynamic Perl interface to gnuplot
----
Gungho-0.08015
http://search.cpan.org/~dmaki/Gungho-0.08015/
Yet Another High Performance Web Crawler Framework
----
HTML-GenerateUtil-1.08
http://search.cpan.org/~robm/HTML-GenerateUtil-1.08/
Routines useful when generating HTML output
----
IPC-SysV-1.99_06
http://search.cpan.org/~mhx/IPC-SysV-1.99_06/
System V IPC constants and system calls
----
JSON-DWIW-0.19
http://search.cpan.org/~dowens/JSON-DWIW-0.19/
JSON converter that Does What I Want
----
JSONRPC-Transport-TCP-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~typester/JSONRPC-Transport-TCP-0.01/
Client component for TCP JSONRPC
----
LaTeX-Table-0.2.0
http://search.cpan.org/~limaone/LaTeX-Table-0.2.0/
Perl extension for the automatic generation of LaTeX tables.
----
LaTeX-Table-0.2.1
http://search.cpan.org/~limaone/LaTeX-Table-0.2.1/
Perl extension for the automatic generation of LaTeX tables.
----
Mail-IMAPClient-2.99_01
http://search.cpan.org/~markov/Mail-IMAPClient-2.99_01/
An IMAP Client API
----
Make-Cache-1.043
http://search.cpan.org/~wsnyder/Make-Cache-1.043/
Caching of object and test run information
----
Net-OAuth-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~kgrennan/Net-OAuth-0.04/
----
Net-UCP-0.28.2
http://search.cpan.org/~nemux/Net-UCP-0.28.2/
Perl extension for EMI - UCP Protocol.
----
POE-Component-SNMP-Session-0.10
http://search.cpan.org/~rdb/POE-Component-SNMP-Session-0.10/
Wrap Net-SNMP's SNMP::Session in POE
----
POE-Component-Server-JSONRPC-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~typester/POE-Component-Server-JSONRPC-0.01/
POE tcp based JSON-RPC server
----
POE-Component-Server-JSONRPC-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~typester/POE-Component-Server-JSONRPC-0.02/
POE tcp based JSON-RPC server
----
POE-Filter-IASLog-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~bingos/POE-Filter-IASLog-0.02/
A POE Filter for Microsoft IAS-formatted log entries.
----
Parse-Marpa-0.001_018
http://search.cpan.org/~jkegl/Parse-Marpa-0.001_018/
Earley's Algorithm, with improvements
----
Perl-Configure-0.07
http://search.cpan.org/~mschilli/Perl-Configure-0.07/
Answer perl's ./Configure questions reproducibly
----
Perl-Installed-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~mschilli/Perl-Installed-0.01/
Get meta information of a perl installation
----
SWISH-API-Object-0.10
http://search.cpan.org/~karman/SWISH-API-Object-0.10/
return SWISH::API results as objects
----
SWISH-API-Stat-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~karman/SWISH-API-Stat-0.04/
reconnect to a SWISH::API handle if index file changes
----
Search-Tools-0.12
http://search.cpan.org/~karman/Search-Tools-0.12/
tools for building search applications
----
Search-Tools-0.13
http://search.cpan.org/~karman/Search-Tools-0.13/
tools for building search applications
----
Search-Tools-0.14
http://search.cpan.org/~karman/Search-Tools-0.14/
tools for building search applications
----
Swarmage-0.00006
http://search.cpan.org/~dmaki/Swarmage-0.00006/
A Distributed Job Queue
----
Tk-FlatCheckbox-0.08
http://search.cpan.org/~srezic/Tk-FlatCheckbox-0.08/
an alternative checkbutton implementation for perl/Tk
----
Tk-FontDialog-0.14
http://search.cpan.org/~srezic/Tk-FontDialog-0.14/
a font dialog widget for perl/Tk
----
WWW-Velib-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~dland/WWW-Velib-0.02/
Download account information from the Velib website
----
lsid-perl-1.1.5
http://search.cpan.org/~ekawas/lsid-perl-1.1.5/
If you're an author of one of these modules, please submit a detailed
announcement to comp.lang.perl.announce, and we'll pass it along.
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:42:09 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <Xns99CEDCC402BE7asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
Ben Bullock <benkasminbullock@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ffbjer$hif$2@ml.accsnet.ne.jp:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:32:53 +0200, Michele Dondi wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:10:13 +0000 (UTC), Ben Bullock
>> <benkasminbullock@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>You are claiming that Perl is "defined by its implementation" while
>>>at the same time failing to define clearly what "implementation"
>>>means. If the documentation which comes with Perl is inconsistent
>>>with the behaviour of the computer program "perl", is the
>>>documentation correct and the program faulty, or vice-versa? Or what
>>>if "perl" has some abilities which
>>
>> It depends: p5p's can tell. Someone must take care of making them
>> agree.
>
> In other words you're admitting that the language isn't actually
> defined anywhere.
Amazing, it still works better than anything else I have used.
Perl is defined by its implementation. As uncertainties arise, Larry and
others try to agree on what changes are necessary to make the
implementation do what people think it should do.
See http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/
Is there a point to this argument?
Sinan
--
A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
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clpmisc guidelines: <URL:http://www.augustmail.com/~tadmc/clpmisc.shtml>
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:56:59 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <VIudnSNyA_8KF4TanZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl> wrote in message
news:ffa34o.r0.1@news.isolution.nl...
> benkasminbullock@gmail.com schreef:
>> Michele Dondi:
>
>>> Perl unlike other languages is defined by its own
>>> implementation. At least in 5's realms. Get used to it. Just refer to
>>> the docs that came with your perl.
>>
>> Logically speaking, if you accept that Perl is defined by its
>> implementation, then you also accept that there is no such thing as a
>> bug in Perl.
Who speaks logically?
If Perl does something crazy or unexpected, then since
>> Perl is "defined by its implementation", the bizarre behaviour is not
>> a bug, it is the correct behaviour of Perl, at least as far as the
>> language is "defined by its implementation". Also you have to accept
>> that the documentation is wrong if it says something different from
>> what Perl actually does. So if Perl exhibits some bug then the
>> documentation should be considered incorrect, not Perl.
>
> No. The documentation is an important part of the implementation. So is
> CPAN, for example all the testcode of the serious modules.
>
> --
> Affijn, Ruud
>
> "Gewoon is een tijger."
>
nuts, michele
--
--
wade ward
"Nicht verzagen, Bruder Grinde fragen."
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:01:07 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <Xb-dnawX5_Y7FoTanZ2dnUVZ_tCrnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192796106.192067.37230@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 19, 5:13 am, "Wade Ward" <zaxf...@invalid.net> wrote:
>> "Paul Lalli" <mri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > On Oct 18, 7:24 pm, "Wade Ward" <zaxf...@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> > > Usually they have the full standard available for $250
>>
>> > Who is this "they" of whom you speak?
>>
>> They is ISO. I would have a hard time believing that the
>> entire body of international standards chose to overlook perl,
>
> Oh, and by the way:
> http://www.iso.org/iso/search.htm?qt=Perl&sort=rel&type=simple&published=true
>
> I guess ISO themselves must be 100% wrong about ISO having a standard
> too, right? Because, I mean, you HEARD it. Therefore it must exist.
Apparently what I heard might not be %100 true.
--
wade ward
"Nicht verzagen, Bruder Grinde fragen."
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:03:26 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <xY-dnQBQ56CEEYTanZ2dnUVZ_tWtnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Abigail" <abigail@abigail.be> wrote in message
news:slrnfhh1pi.ds1.abigail@alexandra.abigail.be...
> _
> Joachim Durchholz (jo@durchholz.org) wrote on VCLXII September MCMXCIII
> in <URL:news:ff9upn$tr1$2@online.de>:
> :} A standard serves to make the implementations converge on a common
> :} semantics. Since Perl is a single-implementation language, there is no
> :} need for a standard.
>
>
> Well, there's more to be said about the merits of a standard than
> just dismissing it with "there's just one implementation".
>
> Read the O'Reilly interview [1] with Larry Rosler (a former clpm poster)
> for instance. I don't necessarely agree with his conclusion, but he
> makes some interesting arguments.
>
> [1] http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2000/06/rosler.html
Listen Print Subscribe to Perl.com ANSI Standard Perl?
Larry Rosler Talks About the Benefits of Standardizing Perl
I'm embarrassed now, because I thought for sure that Perl had been admitted
to computer languages for grown-ups. Apparently not.
--
--
wade ward
"Nicht verzagen, Bruder Grinde fragen."
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:03:38 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <a5Odnd7GcsG7EYTanZ2dnUVZ_qCunZ2d@comcast.com>
"Abigail" <abigail@abigail.be> wrote in message
news:slrnfhi3i5.ds1.abigail@alexandra.abigail.be...
> _
> Wade Ward (zaxfuuq@invalid.net) wrote on VCLXII September MCMXCIII in
> <URL:news:ivudnRhzDfXgloTanZ2dnUVZ_tCrnZ2d@comcast.com>:
> ||
> ||
> || "Joachim Durchholz" <jo@durchholz.org> wrote in message
> || news:ff9upn$tr1$2@online.de...
> || >A standard serves to make the implementations converge on a common
> || >semantics. Since Perl is a single-implementation language, there is no
> need
> || >for a standard.
> || Again, 100% wrong.
> ||
> || I've got $250.-, but I'd rather spend it on this brunnette named Dani
> than a
> || standard that is beyond me right now. When did the Perl Programming
> come to
> || exist? We, in the fortran club, know this number well and in two
> different
> || ways. We celebrated our 50th birthday last year, but we also have a
> || diffrent pedigree with the standard. We beginn there at 66. Then
> there's
> || 77, 90, 95, 2003, 2008. Does the PPL have a similar list?
>
>
> man perlhist
>
>
> Abigail
> --
> sub f{sprintf'%c%s',$_[0],$_[1]}print f(74,f(117,f(115,f(116,f(32,f(97,
> f(110,f(111,f(116,f(104,f(0x65,f(114,f(32,f(80,f(101,f(114,f(0x6c,f(32,
> f(0x48,f(97,f(99,f(107,f(101,f(114,f(10,q ff)))))))))))))))))))))))))
'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
--
--
wade ward
"Nicht verzagen, Bruder Grinde fragen."
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:04:11 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <s8adnS_ZNoLbEYTanZ2dnUVZ_oaonZ2d@comcast.com>
split // => '"';
${"@_"} = "/"; split // => eval join "+" => 1 .. 7;
*{"@_"} = sub {foreach (sort keys %_) {print "$_ $_{$_} "}};
%{"@_"} = %_ = (Just => another => Perl => Hacker); &{%{%_}};
# perl abigail2.pl >text23.txt
--
--
wade ward
"Nicht verzagen, Bruder Grinde fragen."
"Abigail" <abigail@abigail.be> wrote in message
news:slrnfhi3i5.ds1.abigail@alexandra.abigail.be...
> _
> Wade Ward (zaxfuuq@invalid.net) wrote on VCLXII September MCMXCIII in
> <URL:news:ivudnRhzDfXgloTanZ2dnUVZ_tCrnZ2d@comcast.com>:
> ||
> ||
> || "Joachim Durchholz" <jo@durchholz.org> wrote in message
> || news:ff9upn$tr1$2@online.de...
> || >A standard serves to make the implementations converge on a common
> || >semantics. Since Perl is a single-implementation language, there is no
> need
> || >for a standard.
> || Again, 100% wrong.
> ||
> || I've got $250.-, but I'd rather spend it on this brunnette named Dani
> than a
> || standard that is beyond me right now. When did the Perl Programming
> come to
> || exist? We, in the fortran club, know this number well and in two
> different
> || ways. We celebrated our 50th birthday last year, but we also have a
> || diffrent pedigree with the standard. We beginn there at 66. Then
> there's
> || 77, 90, 95, 2003, 2008. Does the PPL have a similar list?
>
>
> man perlhist
>
>
> Abigail
> --
> sub f{sprintf'%c%s',$_[0],$_[1]}print f(74,f(117,f(115,f(116,f(32,f(97,
> f(110,f(111,f(116,f(104,f(0x65,f(114,f(32,f(80,f(101,f(114,f(0x6c,f(32,
> f(0x48,f(97,f(99,f(107,f(101,f(114,f(10,q ff)))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:10:01 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <7u2dnYOsrok4EITanZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com>
everything.
--
--
wade ward
"Nicht verzagen, Bruder Grinde fragen."
"Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:aa9Si.661$6P3.364@trndny02...
> Wade Ward wrote:
>> beginn there at 66. Then there's 77, 90, 95, 2003, 2008. Does the
>> PPL have a similar list?
>
> Well, today the ICAO is responsible for standardizing PPL requirements
> worldwide although individual countries retain a large degree of freedom
> to adapt the requirements to their individual local situations. I don't
> know when the first agreement was signed, but my guess would be not long
> after it was founded in 1947.
>
> However there were other organizations and treaties long before that. The
> first conference took place in 1910 already.
>
> But what does this have to do with the subject of this NG?
>
> jue
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:40:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ben Bullock <benkasminbullock@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: perl standard
Message-Id: <ffc4bi$l1r$1@ml.accsnet.ne.jp>
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:42:09 +0000, A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> Ben Bullock <benkasminbullock@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:ffbjer$hif$2@ml.accsnet.ne.jp:
>> In other words you're admitting that the language isn't actually
>> defined anywhere.
>
> Amazing, it still works better than anything else I have used.
I agree that it works, but does that necessarily mean we shouldn't ask
questions about how the language is defined?
> As uncertainties arise, Larry and
> others try to agree on what changes are necessary to make the
> implementation do what people think it should do.
So Perl is defined by what Larry and others think that people think it
should do.
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Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:20:19 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: printing a subject line
Message-Id: <frudnabAltBD-ITanZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@comcast.com>
"Ted Zlatanov" <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote in message
news:m27iljyzst.fsf@lifelogs.com...
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:25:11 -0700 "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
> wrote:
>
> WW> On the one hand, a background in C is good for learning perl, OTOH,
> WW> not so much.
>
> I bow to your indecisive wisdom, almost Zen-like in its emptiness.
Thank you, Joshu. How's your neck?
--
wade ward
"Nicht verzagen, Bruder Grinde fragen."
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