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Today's topics:
Re: all combinations <stoupa@practisoft.cz>
Re: all combinations <stoupa@practisoft.cz>
Re: all combinations <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: more elegant way to say ($1, $2, $3, $4, ...)? <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com>
Re: Odd regex behavior <nobull67@gmail.com>
Re: Odd regex behavior <nobull67@gmail.com>
Re: Problem installing IO::Compress::Base sisyphus359@gmail.com
Re: Problem installing IO::Compress::Base <paul.marquess@btinternet.com>
Re: Problem installing IO::Compress::Base <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Re: the camel perl book <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Re: the camel perl book <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Re: the camel perl book <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and <frgo@goenninger.net>
Travel USA travelingwebs1@gmail.com
Re: Trivial? <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com>
Re: Trivial? <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Using external REXX function libraries with PERL kenkahn@cadence.com
Re: Using external REXX function libraries with PERL <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:28:18 +0200
From: "Petr Vileta" <stoupa@practisoft.cz>
Subject: Re: all combinations
Message-Id: <fdtj9p$rc0$1@ns.felk.cvut.cz>
Mintcake wrote:
> On Oct 2, 10:41 am, Mintcake <t...@skelding.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Oct 2, 6:49 am, "Petr Vileta" <sto...@practisoft.cz> wrote:
>>> @result = [
>>> ['a','b','c'],
>>> ['a','c','b'],
>>> ['b','a','c'],
>>> ['b','c','a'],
>>> ['c','a','b'],
>>> ['c','b','a']
>>> ];
>>
>
> Sorry I left a spurious print statement in the sub. Also note that
> the original initialisation of @array should be ('a','b','c') not
> ['a','b','c'].
Yes I know. I wrote output example as my debuger show it. I use Komodo.
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:36:05 +0200
From: "Petr Vileta" <stoupa@practisoft.cz>
Subject: Re: all combinations
Message-Id: <fdtj9q$rc0$2@ns.felk.cvut.cz>
Michele Dondi wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:49:36 +0200, "Petr Vileta"
> <stoupa@practisoft.cz> wrote:
>
>> I have an array of strings, say
>> @array = ['a','b','c'];
>> and I need to call subroutine or use some module to get array of
>> arrays with all possible combinations. Good message is that all
>> strings in @array must be used everytime. This reduce number of
>> combinations.
>> So the result should be
>> @result = [
>> ['a','b','c'],
>> ['a','c','b'],
>> ['b','a','c'],
>> ['b','c','a'],
>> ['c','a','b'],
>> ['c','b','a']
>> ];
>>
>> Please can anybody help me to resolve this problem? I'm bad in
>> mathematics and I don't know how to ask Google. In other word I'm
>> too stupid to resolve this ;-)
>
> These are called *permutations*.
>
As I said, I'm bad in mathematics. I learned mathematics first 3 years only
(from 4 years of education) on technical college, 35 years ago :-)
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:58:38 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: all combinations
Message-Id: <di15g31jijttgfn3t88l42snnt47vtlmlo@4ax.com>
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:36:05 +0200, "Petr Vileta"
<stoupa@practisoft.cz> wrote:
>>> Please can anybody help me to resolve this problem? I'm bad in
>>> mathematics and I don't know how to ask Google. In other word I'm
>>> too stupid to resolve this ;-)
>>
>> These are called *permutations*.
>>
>As I said, I'm bad in mathematics. I learned mathematics first 3 years only
>(from 4 years of education) on technical college, 35 years ago :-)
I was not accusing you and you don't need to apologize. I'm just
pointing out the correct mathematical term.
Michele
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:19:08 -0700
From: William James <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: more elegant way to say ($1, $2, $3, $4, ...)?
Message-Id: <1191338348.316715.249370@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Aug 9, 1:04 pm, Larry <larry.grant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm using a /g regex in a while loop to capture parenthesized matches
> to meaningful variable names like this:
>
> while (/ (...) ... (...) ... (...)/g) {
> my ($foo, $bar, $baz) = ($1, $2, $3);
> ...
>
> }
>
> The ($1, $2, $3) part seems inelegant ... is there a more elegant way?
>
> BTW, don't suggest:
>
> while (my ($foo, $bar, $baz) = / (...) ... (...) ... (...)/g) {
> ...
>
> }
>
> That will cause the regex to evaluate in a list context, which changes
> the behavior of /g to parse all of $_ at once, only returning the
> first match and throwing away the rest.
Ruby
scan( / (...) ... (...) ... (...)/ ){ |foo, bar, baz|
...
}
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:51:17 -0000
From: Brian McCauley <nobull67@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Odd regex behavior
Message-Id: <1191343877.656749.107330@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 1, 4:37 am, Mintcake <t...@skelding.co.uk> wrote:
> I wouldd be grateful to anyone who can shed some light on the
> unexpected
> results from the regex in the following program.
I suspect that this is pretty much the same issue as was discussed
here recently
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.perl.misc/msg/d128a5c4d28a917b
Here's a much simpler way to reproduce it
use strict;
use warnings;
'From outside loop' =~ /(.*)/;
for my $pass ( 1, 2 ) {
print "$1\n";
'From later inside loop' =~ /(.*)/;
}
__END__
The above could reasonably be expected to print 'From outside loop'
twice but actually prints 'From later inside loop' the second time.
The work-round is simply to double the {}
use strict;
use warnings;
'From outside loop' =~ /(.*)/;
for my $pass ( 1, 2 ) {{
print "$1\n";
'From later inside loop' =~ /(.*)/;
}}
__END__
I am able to reproduce this in 5.9.5.
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:56:50 -0000
From: Brian McCauley <nobull67@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Odd regex behavior
Message-Id: <1191344210.124991.262630@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 2, 5:51 pm, Brian McCauley <nobul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 4:37 am, Mintcake <t...@skelding.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I wouldd be grateful to anyone who can shed some light on the
> > unexpected
> > results from the regex in the following program.
>
> I suspect that this is pretty much the same issue as was discussed
> here recently
Correction - if it wasn't for that issue you probably would not have
been able to observe the bug.
There is, of course, as Yves points out a much more serious bug here
too.
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:48:14 -0700
From: sisyphus359@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Problem installing IO::Compress::Base
Message-Id: <1191325694.430112.94960@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 2, 5:12 am, Ben Morrow <b...@morrow.me.uk> wrote:
.
.
> > I use Scalar::Util for readonly
>
> So, why are you testing for the XS version? /me is confused...
But it's the IO::Compress::Base test file (t/01misc.t), not the OP,
that's "testing for the XS version".
Or, is it *me* that's confused ...
Cheers,
Rob
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:51:56 +0100
From: Paul Marquess <paul.marquess@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Problem installing IO::Compress::Base
Message-Id: <470230dd$0$311$4d4eb98e@read.news.uk.uu.net>
Ben Morrow wrote:
>
> Quoth Paul Marquess <paul.marquess@btinternet.com>:
>> Ben Morrow wrote:
>> > Quoth John Oliver <joliver@john-oliver.net>:
>> > <snip>
>> >> # Failed test (t/01misc.t at line 29)
>> >> # You don't have the XS version of Scalar::Util
>> >
>> > Seems fairly self-explanatory to me... you need to (re-)install
>> > Scalar::Util, so you get the XS version.
>> >
>> > Arguably IO-Compress-Base ought to depend on Task::Weaken, which is
>> > supposed to fix this problem; I guess Paul is more interested in not
>> > introducing new potential problems.
>>
>> Having a dependency on Task::Weaken would only make sense if I was using
>> weaken, which I'm not.
>
> Except that Task::Weaken ought to have been called
> Task::Get::Me::The::_Real_::Scalar::Util :).
>
>> I use Scalar::Util for readonly
>
> So, why are you testing for the XS version? /me is confused...
Sorry, I spoke too soon.
I used to use Scalar::Util in IO::Compress::Base for both dualvar &
readonly, but I don't any more. dualvar needs the XS build of Scalar::Util.
The IO::Compress modules that derive from IO::Compress::Base all need
Scalar::Util for both dualvar & readonly. So although I don't strictly
need to test for Scalar::Util in IO::Compress::Base, it just means a
prerequisite module gets tested a bit sooner than is needed.
Paul
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Date: 02 Oct 2007 10:11:23 -0400
From: Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Subject: Re: Problem installing IO::Compress::Base
Message-Id: <87odfha9o4.fsf@mithril.chromatico.net>
>>>>> "JO" == John Oliver <joliver@john-oliver.net> writes:
(a long log, of which the salient point is thus:)
JO> # Failed test (t/01misc.t at line 29)
JO> # You don't have the XS version of Scalar::Util
Something possibly related: one of RedHat's recent Perl RPMs screws up
Scalar::Util, at least the non-XS version, and this may be the root
cause of what you're seeing.
I don't know if it's the real problem here, but it's something to check.
Charlton
--
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cwilbur@chromatico.net
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:28:53 -0700
From: "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: the camel perl book
Message-Id: <MOmdndd146FL4p_anZ2dnUVZ_i2dnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Michele Dondi" <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it> wrote in message
news:dio2g35837recfiakg90d1b5s73fop1gmh@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:19:58 -0700, "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
> wrote:
>
>>plonk
>>
>>--
>>wade ward
>>"The final irony is that cops
>>and rodney king have the same IQ."
>>"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:Xns99BB7C6596E3Basu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...
>>> "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net> wrote in
>>> news:sc2dncoreJGVlmPbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>>
>>>> I have questions from the
>>>> the camel perl book.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.zaxfuuq.net/beatdowninabq1.htm
>>>>
>>>
>>> All your personalities belong to my killfile.
>>>
>>> Sinan
>
> I've been tolerating you till now, but such an irrespectful behaviour
> is bringing me very near to plonking you too. Honestly I can't
> understand most of your posts, and their humour, if that's humour.
This english is terrible. Please insult me correctly, or don't.
--
wade ward
"The final irony is that cops
and rodney king have the same IQ."
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Date: 02 Oct 2007 13:45:13 -0400
From: Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Subject: Re: the camel perl book
Message-Id: <87ejgd8l7a.fsf@mithril.chromatico.net>
>>>>> "WW" == Wade Ward <zaxfuuq@invalid.net> writes:
WW> "Michele Dondi" <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it> wrote in message
WW> news:dio2g35837recfiakg90d1b5s73fop1gmh@4ax.com...
>> I've been tolerating you till now, but such an irrespectful
>> behaviour is bringing me very near to plonking you
>> too. Honestly I can't understand most of your posts, and their
>> humour, if that's humour.
WW> This english is terrible. Please insult me correctly, or
WW> don't.
The only obvious mistake is 'irrespectful' where a native speaker
would most likely say 'disrespectful', but the meaning is clear enough.
On the other hand, I think Michele is giving you rather a large
benefit of the doubt by assuming your deportment is an attempt at humor.
You need to seriously reexamine your online behavior before everyone
whose responses might be useful to you has plonked you. This is not
an insult; it's advice.
Charlton
--
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cwilbur@chromatico.net
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:56:04 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: the camel perl book
Message-Id: <fd15g3p47vqadb3fcmip5okooln1qocht6@4ax.com>
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:28:53 -0700, "Wade Ward" <zaxfuuq@invalid.net>
wrote:
>> I've been tolerating you till now, but such an irrespectful behaviour
>> is bringing me very near to plonking you too. Honestly I can't
>> understand most of your posts, and their humour, if that's humour.
>This english is terrible. Please insult me correctly, or don't.
Please correct me, I'm not a native English speaker. Just pointing out
that it's not correct is not going to help me. BTW: FWIW it was not my
intent to insult you, in fact I'm just pointing my finger towards your
irrespectful behaviour. Not you. That's not an insult.
Michele
--
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(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:43:43 +0200
From: Frank Goenninger <frgo@goenninger.net>
Subject: Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding
Message-Id: <fdtsfu$iq6$03$1@news.t-online.com>
On 2007-10-01 23:37:28 +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger
<lasses_weil@klapptsowieso.net> said:
> Frank Goenninger wrote:
>> On 2007-09-29 01:27:04 +0200, Damien Kick <dkixk@earthlink.net> said:
>>
>>> If you were referring to the "free" in "free Mumia Abu Jamal", I would
>>> agree with you. I don't think anyone would imagine that this phrase
>>> meant that someone was going to get Mumia Abu Jamal gratis. Like it or
>>> not, "free software" referring to "free as in beer" is probably the
>>> most common interpretation of the phrase for a native English speaker.
>>> Admittedly, I do not have a "scientific" survey handy. However, I just
>>> asked my wife--who has absolutely no interest in anything related to
>>> programming, has never heard of the FSF, Eric Raymond, nor the
>>> disagreement between those two camps, nor probably will she ever have
>>> an interest--what she thinks I mean when I say "free software". After
>>> getting over the "why are you asking such a stupid question" phase, the
>>> first thing that jumped to her mind was "free as in beer". You can
>>> stamp, growl, swagger, spit, curse, and bluster all you want on this
>>> point, but millions of English speakers are going to ignore you anyway.
>>> Lucky for most of them, they do not have to suffer the lectures of
>>> sociopolitically motivated language mavens trying to "correct" them
>>> from the error of mistaking the meaning of a phrase to be the normal
>>> meaning of that phrase.
>>
>> Fully true for non-native English speakers as well. Just did the "wife
>> test" also - she is a pure software user - and yes, free is "no money,
>> do what you want" and that's it.
>>
>> I *never* use the term "free" if I don't want to imply "free beer"
>> (which is a Good Thing and as such highly valuated - ask any Bavarian).
>> Using "free" as by FSF or any other lawyer-style 6 pixel font printed
>> phrasing is pure perfidiousness.
>>
> I appearantly missed a lot of that conversation, but what is your
> point? While I agree that the word "free" implies "free of monetary
> cost" to many people societies, that is by no means set in stone (talk
> to native americans, blacks, jews, palestinians, etc. about the word
> free, see what they have to say).
>
> But that aside: The word free with respect to the FSF and GPL have a
> perfectly well defined meaning. People may misunderstand that from not
> knowing the definition but that doesnt make it any less well defined.
>
> Again, why this discussion?
> /W
Well, I didn't start the discussion. So you should ask the OP about the
why. I jumped in when I came across the so often mentioned "hey, it's
all well defined" statement was brought in. I simply said that if that
"well-definedness" is against "common understanding" then I don't give
a damn about that clever definitions. Because I have to know that there
are such definitions - always also knowing that free is not really
free. It is such a good subject to discuss over and over and over
without ever reaching any conclusion or resolution because neither FSF
nor GNU nor the FREE as in FREE BEER defenders will change their mind.
So, wasting bandwith is the only real effect ... And hey, it's Usenet,
so wasting time and bandwith is part of the game.
Again, why this discussion - ah - I don't really know...
;-)
--
Frank Goenninger
frgo(at)goenninger(dot)net
"Don't ask me! I haven't been reading comp.lang.lisp long enough to
really know ..."
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:02:03 -0700
From: William James <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Trivial?
Message-Id: <1191326523.136352.59570@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 29, 12:39 am, El Bandolero <el_bandol...@libero.it> wrote:
> I'm solving an exercise studying on a tutorial
>
> The task is to print the (empty or not) lines of a file numbering only the
> non empty ones.
>
awk 'NF{printf "%d ", NR} 1' file
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Date: 02 Oct 2007 10:08:16 -0400
From: Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Subject: Re: Trivial?
Message-Id: <87sl4ta9tb.fsf@mithril.chromatico.net>
>>>>> "M" == Mintcake <tony@skelding.co.uk> writes:
M> On Sep 30, 7:37 am, all mail refused
M> <elvis-85...@notatla.org.uk>
M> wrote:
>> On 2007-09-29, El Bandolero <el_bandol...@libero.it> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm solving an exercise studying on a tutorial
>>
>> > The task is to print the (empty or not) lines of a file
>> numbering only the > non empty ones.
>>
>> nl -bt
>>
>> -- Elvis Notargiacomo master AT barefaced DOT
>> cheekhttp://www.notatla.org.uk/goen/
M> That doesn't do the job - it still prints the empty lines it
M> just doesn't number them
Er, that's exactly what the OP asked for. "print the (empty or not)
lines of a file numbering only the non empty ones."
Charlton
--
Charlton Wilbur
cwilbur@chromatico.net
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:30:31 -0700
From: kenkahn@cadence.com
Subject: Using external REXX function libraries with PERL
Message-Id: <1191321031.701549.306970@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
Is it possible to use external REXX function libraries, written for
OOREXX or Regina REXX in the standard SAA interface, with Perl? I
thought I had read (somewhere) that Perl supports the standard SAA
Rexx external Function interface.
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:27:02 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Using external REXX function libraries with PERL
Message-Id: <0na4g3hr9clta3nu25l42vp9qqfh16njdi@4ax.com>
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:30:31 -0700, kenkahn@cadence.com wrote:
>Is it possible to use external REXX function libraries, written for
>OOREXX or Regina REXX in the standard SAA interface, with Perl? I
>thought I had read (somewhere) that Perl supports the standard SAA
>Rexx external Function interface.
I don't know, but CPAN seems to have a lot of things:
http://search.cpan.org/search?query=REXX&mode=all
Perhaps
http://search.cpan.org/~nwclark/perl-5.8.8/os2/OS2/REXX/DLL/DLL.pm
?
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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price,
best services,and timely delivery.
Website: http://www.new-nikeshoes.com
msn: zhushao999@hotmail.com
Hong-da Co., Ltd.
hi
We are wholesaler of Nike Jordan and Other Shoes in China. We are big
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There are various and latest styles for your choice in our website.
Our main markets are the USA, the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Greece,
Jordan, Australia, Canada,Sweden, and many other countries in Europe
and the Middle East regions.
We insist the principia: Prestige first,high-quality,competitive
price,
best services,and timely delivery.
Website: http://www.new-nikeshoes.com
msn: zhushao999@hotmail.com
Hong-da Co., Ltd.
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