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Today's topics:
Re: [OT] optimal vs. optimized [was: Re: string concate <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: constraints in perl <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: constraints in perl <peter@makholm.net>
Re: constraints in perl <asolkar@gmail.com>
Copy using system <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Re: Copy using system <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid>
Left margin's for ActivePerl's html help file <seannakasone@yahoo.com>
Re: Left margin's for ActivePerl's html help file <wahab@chemie.uni-halle.de>
Re: Left margin's for ActivePerl's html help file <wahab@chemie.uni-halle.de>
Re: Left margin's for ActivePerl's html help file <seannakasone@yahoo.com>
Re: Odd regex behavior demerphq@gmail.com
Re: Odd regex behavior demerphq@gmail.com
Re: Problem installing IO::Compress::Base <ben@morrow.me.uk>
run perl program when there is new file? <jiehuang001@gmail.com>
Re: run perl program when there is new file? <benoit.lefebvre@gmail.com>
Re: run perl program when there is new file? <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Re: Small doubt in perl <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: Small doubt in perl <ben@morrow.me.uk>
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:42:49 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: [OT] optimal vs. optimized [was: Re: string concatentation...]
Message-Id: <csm2g3t0vdh4bhfliv2al8lblkkibaphld@4ax.com>
Note: crossposted to some supposedly relevant groups. If anyone has
better ones to suggest, then they're welcome.
For people reading this outside of clpmisc, the question arose with
the following post:
<news:sfvqs4-b8b.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
which in turn was in response to an observation of mine. The whole
thread is available from GG at the following URL:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=sfvqs4-b8b.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:59:52 +0100, Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
wrote:
>You have a good point; however, as is usual in English grammar,
>arguments from ancestry don't always help :). For instance, if 'optimum'
>and derived words are necessarily superlative, then 'optimized' means
>'made best', and A cannot be more optimized than B either. A has either
>been 'made best' or it hasn't.
I'm not sure. 'To optimize' could mean 'to try to reach the optimum'
(or optimal incarnation - of something) thus 'optimized' may mean 'to
have undergone the process of optimization', thus to have gone as much
as possible (wrt some constraints, e.g. time) towards the optimum
without necessarily reaching it. By contrast I see 'optimal' very much
as a synonym of 'optimum' itself, and personally I find much more
acceptable the expression 'more optimzed' than 'more optimal'.
>I think what has happened is that, in English, 'optimal' and
>'optimized' have acquired something of a sense of 'efficient', which is
>clearly comparative, rather than of 'best' in a more general sense. So
That they have been or are occasionally used in that sense may well
be, but I would be surprised to learn that they have actually
"acquired" it. If I paste the remaining two entries found by dict
(which I snipped last time), namely:
: From Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 :
:
: 24 Moby Thesaurus words for "optimal":
: best, champion, choice, elect, elite, for the best, greatest,
: handpicked, matchless, optimum, paramount, peerless, picked, prime,
: prize, quintessential, select, supreme, surpassing, unmatchable,
: unmatched, unparalleled, unsurpassed, very best
:
:
:
:
: From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (27 SEP 03) :
:
: optimal
:
: 1. Describes a solution to a problem which
: minimises some cost function. Linear programming is one
: technique used to discover the optimal solution to certain
: problems.
:
: 2. Of code: best or most efficient in time,
: space or code size.
you will see that the last one, which is specifically aimed at CS and
IT -and it's actually relevant here- still does not mention just
"efficiency". Thus my take on the issue is that 'optimal' is not just
'efficient' as alleged, but 'the most efficient'. All this, still at a
syntactical level, i.e. we're not discussing yet what "efficient"
could mean.
I'll repeat myself: maybe this strikes me more strongly because of my
implicit Latin heritage, but I still find 'more optimal' to sound like
'more most efficient'.
>optimizing a program doesn't necessarily make it better, it simply makes
>it more efficient: other things may be more important than efficiency,
This is semantics. "better" and "more efficient" are both
comparatives. That other things may be more important than efficiency
(and indeed I think they are) is irrelevant to the linguistic point
being discussed here.
>portability or readability for example. 'Optimum' has not (I would say)
We're not necessarily speaking of computer programs here, and although
it is not in the dictionaries I mentioned before I think that the
italian definition I found for 'ottimale' may well be translated in
English, which is what I'm trying to do now:
: adj: of something that, according to some determinate parameters or
: points of view, represents the *best* possible condition or the *best*
: possible result: e.g. optimal life conditions.
If you accept this, then you can still speak in the context of
programming of a
>changed like this, so I find it odd that the dictionaries you quoted say
>it is synonymous with 'optimal': I would entirely agree that 'more
>optimum' is obviously wrong.
In all earnestness I had never witnessed the use you're reporting of
'optimal', namely that in which it is not a superlative. But
admittedly I do not read *that* much in English.
>Theory aside, a quick google shows that 'more optimal' is definitely
>acceptable usage; for instance (a random example from the results)
Huh?!? Google may show that "ur so c00l bro" is acceptable usage!!
> This is because the claim that A is more optimal or better adapted
> than B with respect to some function does not entail that A is
> optimal or even good with respect to that function.
>
> http://www.seop.leeds.ac.uk/archives/fall1999/entries/teleology-biology/
>
>which shows that 'optimal' can have the sense of 'efficient' or
>'effective' rather than simply 'best'.
Well, that is from an academic institution thus should not fall in the
"ur so c00l bro", but I'm still skeptical: young researchers, however
good may they be in their research field, often tend to speak and
write very bad in their own mother tongue. For example in Italy some
young mathematicians are beginning to use the horrible anglophonic
"surgettiva" in place of the traditional "suriettiva", not that a word
borrowed from English is so bad in and of itself, but it is when
there's a perfectly fine alternative in one's own language.
> [English] not only borrows words from other languages; it has on
> occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them
> unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary.
> -- James Nicoll
I knew that. In fact it's amongs my .sigs!
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:19:15 GMT
From: "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: constraints in perl
Message-Id: <Td8Mi.1444$Ju2.560@trndny01>
Amir wrote:
> if I have a variable called $foo ,
A variable in Perl, even a scalar variable like $foo, can and does have many
different 'values'. Are you talking about a string, a natural number, a
floating point number, ...
> and I want to check that this
> variable "bits" 20-23 and 31 is equal to other variable $too "bits"
> 12-14 and 29,respectively.
The internal representation of a variable's value is subject to the compiler
and can change at any time and will most likely be different for different
platforms.
Relying on 'this bit of information is stored in bit 31' is, well, naive at
best.
Having said that Perl does have the usual bit-wise operators, see 'perldoc
perlop' for details.
jue
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:31:56 +0000
From: Peter Makholm <peter@makholm.net>
Subject: Re: constraints in perl
Message-Id: <87r6kezw9f.fsf@hacking.dk>
Amir <sting.t2@gmail.com> writes:
> I have a small question
> if I have a variable called $foo , and I want to check that this
> variable "bits" 20-23 and 31 is equal to other variable $too "bits"
> 12-14 and 29,respectively.
You might have some luck using the vec() function. Probaly something
like:
vec($foo,5,4) == vec($too,4,4) && vec($foo,31,1) == vec($too,29,1)
Not that I have used the vec function a lot myself though. But read
the documentation and see if you can get it to work as you need.
//Makholm
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:13:11 -0700
From: Mahesh Asolkar <asolkar@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: constraints in perl
Message-Id: <1191258791.644455.208660@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 1, 7:10 am, Amir <sting...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
> I have a small question
> if I have a variable called $foo , and I want to check that this
> variable "bits" 20-23 and 31 is equal to other variable $too "bits"
> 12-14 and 29,respectively.
> I mean $foo[20]=$too[12] and $foo[21]=$too[13] and $foo[22] =$too[14]
> and $foo[31] = $too[29] .
> do you have any ideas?!
This may be an overkill for the one task you mention, but if you have
a lot of bit vector arithmetic going on, Bit::Vector module may be
handy.
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Bit-Vector/Vector.pod
For example:
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use Bit::Vector;
my $foo = Bit::Vector->new_Bin (5, '10101');
my $too = Bit::Vector->new_Bin (5, '11101');
foreach my $bit (0..4) {
print "Bit $bit is " .
(($foo->bit_test ($bit) == $too->bit_test($bit))
? "same" : "different") . "\n";
}
__END__
HTH,
Mahesh.
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:30:39 -0700
From: lerameur <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Subject: Copy using system
Message-Id: <1191274239.081356.30400@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>
hello,
I wrote a small script in perl.
this is the line that is buggy:
mkdir ("/ins/$Out_directory/aux", 0777);
system(`cp -p * /dir/$Out_directory/aux `);
I use the above command , the files do get copied, but the command do
not exit once it is finished. It just hangs there and do not proceed,
I need to hit ctlr-Z . no error message. what is wrong
ken
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:44:41 -0500
From: "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid>
Subject: Re: Copy using system
Message-Id: <47016a49$0$501$815e3792@news.qwest.net>
lerameur wrote:
> hello,
> I wrote a small script in perl.
> this is the line that is buggy:
>
> mkdir ("/ins/$Out_directory/aux", 0777);
> system(`cp -p * /dir/$Out_directory/aux `);
>
> I use the above command , the files do get copied, but the command do
> not exit once it is finished. It just hangs there and do not proceed,
> I need to hit ctlr-Z . no error message. what is wrong
1. Check if mkdir was successful.
2. Use double-quotes.
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:06:13 -1000
From: Sean Nakasone <seannakasone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Left margin's for ActivePerl's html help file
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.64.0710010902220.3192@ctfanxnfba.unjnvvnaryrpgevp.arg>
I just downloaded ActivePerl for x86 32-bit windows and I noticed the
leftmost text in the lines are beyond the left margin of the window, so we
can't see the first line in every line. Anybody else notice this? Is
there an easy way to fix this?
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:48:40 +0200
From: Mirco Wahab <wahab@chemie.uni-halle.de>
Subject: Re: Left margin's for ActivePerl's html help file
Message-Id: <fdrir8$t5o$1@nserver.hrz.tu-freiberg.de>
Sean Nakasone wrote:
> I just downloaded ActivePerl for x86 32-bit windows and I noticed the
> leftmost text in the lines are beyond the left margin of the window, so
> we can't see the first line in every line. Anybody else notice this?
Looks like some "box-model" error of MSIE 5/6
> Is there an easy way to fix this?
Firefox works perfectly.
Regards
M.
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:56:09 +0200
From: Mirco Wahab <wahab@chemie.uni-halle.de>
Subject: Re: Left margin's for ActivePerl's html help file
Message-Id: <fdrj98$tal$1@nserver.hrz.tu-freiberg.de>
Mirco Wahab wrote:
> Sean Nakasone wrote:
>> I just downloaded ActivePerl for x86 32-bit windows and I noticed the
>> leftmost text in the lines are beyond the left margin of the window,
>> so we can't see the first line in every line. Anybody else notice this?
>
> Looks like some "box-model" error of MSIE 5/6
>
>> Is there an easy way to fix this?
Another way: rename the three .css-files in
the \Perl\html directory to .css-x or
something.
This will fix IE's problem.
Regards
M.
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:50:50 -1000
From: Sean Nakasone <seannakasone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Left margin's for ActivePerl's html help file
Message-Id: <Pine.WNT.4.64.0710011049270.2384@ctfanxnfba.unjnvvnaryrpgevp.arg>
Yes, renaming the css files worked. I'm using IE 6.
thankyou very much.
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:19:55 -0000
From: demerphq@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Odd regex behavior
Message-Id: <1191273595.376206.195710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 1, 6:08 am, Ben Bullock <benkasminbull...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:37:13 -0700, Mintcake wrote:
> > I wouldd be grateful to anyone who can shed some light on the
> > unexpected
> > results from the regex in the following program.
>
> > #!/usr/local/bin/perl -l
>
> > use strict;
>
> Adding the line
>
> use warnings;
>
> to your script gives the answer to your problem.
No, warnings have nothing to do with this.
Yves
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:28:51 -0000
From: demerphq@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Odd regex behavior
Message-Id: <1191274131.721379.241030@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 1, 5:37 am, Mintcake <t...@skelding.co.uk> wrote:
> I wouldd be grateful to anyone who can shed some light on the
> unexpected
> results from the regex in the following program.
>
> #!/usr/local/bin/perl -l
>
> use strict;
>
> my $y = ' href="/foo/bar?d=1&c=2&f=1&cards=1" x="123"';
>
> for ($y =~ /(\s+\w+=['"](.*?)["'])/gs)
> {
> print "1) $_";
> print "2) [$1][$2]";
>
> my $x = /(\w+)=['"](.*)["']/;
> print "3) [$x] [$1][$2]";
>
> my $x = /(\w+)=['"](.*)["']/;
> print "4) [$x] [$1][$2]";
>
> my $x = /(\w+)=['"](.*)["']/;
> print "5) [$x] [$1][$2]";
>
> print "";}
>
> __END__
>
> The results I get are as follows
>
> 1) href="/foo/bar?d=1&c=2&f=1&cards=1"
> 2) [ x="123"][123]
> 3) [1] [href][/foo/bar?d=1&c=2&f=1&cards=1]
> 4) [1] [href][/foo/bar?d=1&c=2&f=1&cards=1]
> 5) [1] [href][/foo/bar?d=1&c=2&f=1&cards=1]
>
> 1) /foo/bar?d=1&c=2&f=1&cards=1
> 2) [href][/foo/bar?d=1&c=2&f=1&cards=1]
> 3) [] [href][/foo/bar?d=1&c=2&f=1&cards=1]
> 4) [] [href][/foo/bar?d=1&c=2&f=1&cards=1]
> 5) [] [=2&f=][]
This is a bug for sure. Notice that '=2&f=' is the same length as
'cards'. How it ends up at that offset im not sure and I havent
debugged it to see whats up.
The good news is that I already fixed this for 5.10, although its hard
to say which fix was responsible, there were a number related to
capturing and rollbacks and the like done in the 5.9.x line.
The bad news is that the patch is highly unlikely to be back ported to
5.8.x :-(
Interesting bug tho. Cheers.
Yves
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:12:46 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Problem installing IO::Compress::Base
Message-Id: <eet7t4-bm7.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth Paul Marquess <paul.marquess@btinternet.com>:
> Ben Morrow wrote:
> > Quoth John Oliver <joliver@john-oliver.net>:
> > <snip>
> >> # Failed test (t/01misc.t at line 29)
> >> # You don't have the XS version of Scalar::Util
> >
> > Seems fairly self-explanatory to me... you need to (re-)install
> > Scalar::Util, so you get the XS version.
> >
> > Arguably IO-Compress-Base ought to depend on Task::Weaken, which is
> > supposed to fix this problem; I guess Paul is more interested in not
> > introducing new potential problems.
>
> Having a dependency on Task::Weaken would only make sense if I was using
> weaken, which I'm not.
Except that Task::Weaken ought to have been called
Task::Get::Me::The::_Real_::Scalar::Util :).
> I use Scalar::Util for readonly
So, why are you testing for the XS version? /me is confused...
Ben
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:26:03 -0000
From: Jie <jiehuang001@gmail.com>
Subject: run perl program when there is new file?
Message-Id: <1191259563.770480.124240@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
Hi,
I have a folder where new files will be generated when some other
programs finished working.
Now, I need to write a perl program to store some text output files
generated from the other programs into a MySQL database. i think that
i could just write a perl code to generate a sql command file and
insert text into database.
The challenge is that this perl program needs to know what files have
already been processed, while only process on NEW files.. Maybe in
the mysql database, i could create a field to record the time of the
last run, then compare that time with the timestamp of all files to
find what files are new and therefore needs to be processed. if this
is the way to go, can you please let me know how to get the timestamp
of files? Also, to retrieve the time recorded in mySQL, the idea in my
mind now is to use something like below. There might be a better way,
i believe...
the_times = `mysql -u me - p the_password; select last_time from
dummp_table`
Thanks!!
Jie
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:26:28 -0700
From: Benoit Lefebvre <benoit.lefebvre@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: run perl program when there is new file?
Message-Id: <1191263188.266605.46650@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>
On Oct 1, 1:26 pm, Jie <jiehuang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a folder where new files will be generated when some other
> programs finished working.
>
> Now, I need to write a perl program to store some text output files
> generated from the other programs into a MySQL database. i think that
> i could just write a perl code to generate a sql command file and
> insert text into database.
>
> The challenge is that this perl program needs to know what files have
> already been processed, while only process on NEW files.. Maybe in
> the mysql database, i could create a field to record the time of the
> last run, then compare that time with the timestamp of all files to
> find what files are new and therefore needs to be processed. if this
> is the way to go, can you please let me know how to get the timestamp
> of files? Also, to retrieve the time recorded in mySQL, the idea in my
> mind now is to use something like below. There might be a better way,
> i believe...
> the_times = `mysql -u me - p the_password; select last_time from
> dummp_table`
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Jie
Can you move the files once they have been processed by Perl ?
For the perl script, maybe you can add an entry to the crontab to
check every minutes if there is new files in the specified directory
and if there is new files, put the content in the MySQL database and
move the files somewhere else.
Or you can create a table of files and if the files listed in the
directory are not in the table, put it in the file list table and add
their content to the table where it should be.
If you can't play with the crontab, maybe you can add the SQL stuff at
the end of your other program.. or if you don't have the source you
can create a wrapper for this application that will run the
application and once it's done, add the output to the database
I'm pretty sure there is MANY other ways to do the job too.
--Ben
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:22:38 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: run perl program when there is new file?
Message-Id: <u0u7t4-bm7.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth Jie <jiehuang001@gmail.com>:
>
> I have a folder where new files will be generated when some other
> programs finished working.
>
> Now, I need to write a perl program to store some text output files
> generated from the other programs into a MySQL database. i think that
> i could just write a perl code to generate a sql command file and
> insert text into database.
Better would be to use
perldoc DBI
perldoc DBD::mysql
If you don't have DBI installed, start with
perldoc CPAN
basically, you need to run
perl -MCPAN -e'install DBI'
and answer all the prompts. Defaults are usually good if you don't
understand the questions :).
> The challenge is that this perl program needs to know what files have
> already been processed, while only process on NEW files.. Maybe in
> the mysql database, i could create a field to record the time of the
> last run, then compare that time with the timestamp of all files to
> find what files are new and therefore needs to be processed. if this
> is the way to go, can you please let me know how to get the timestamp
> of files?
perldoc -f stat
and also I find
perldoc File::stat
very helpful.
> Also, to retrieve the time recorded in mySQL, the idea in my
> mind now is to use something like below. There might be a better way,
> i believe...
DBI again. The answer to almost any database-related question in Perl
involves DBI :).
Ben
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Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:05:38 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Small doubt in perl
Message-Id: <24a2g3tgln0isk4qb5brtvqi7joqknionb@4ax.com>
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:25:00 -0700, anil <anilkumar.iitm@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >> system '/bin/sh', -c => '. sample.sh; exec java test';
^
^
[snip]
>I have searched in the net and i found the solution we have to
>replace ; with & in the above system command. Thanks for all your
>valuable replies...
Please note that it probably won't be enough, since I don't expect
. FILE
to valid syntax there. But of course I may be wrong, and that would
certainly be good for you.
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:16:38 +0100
From: Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
Subject: Re: Small doubt in perl
Message-Id: <mlt7t4-bm7.ln1@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org>
Quoth Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>:
> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:25:00 -0700, anil <anilkumar.iitm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >> system '/bin/sh', -c => '. sample.sh; exec java test';
> ^
> ^
>
> [snip]
> >I have searched in the net and i found the solution we have to
> >replace ; with & in the above system command. Thanks for all your
> >valuable replies...
>
> Please note that it probably won't be enough, since I don't expect
>
> . FILE
>
> to valid syntax there. But of course I may be wrong, and that would
> certainly be good for you.
No, it's not. However, cmd.exe *always* sources .bat files (yes,
cringe... it's the legacy of DOS, which Didn't Do Processes), so
system cmd => '/c' => 'sample.bat& java test';
should work (untested, and possibly
system 'cmd /c "sample.bat& java test"';
may work better).
Ben
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