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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:09:07 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest Thu, 20 Sep 2007 Volume: 11 Number: 868
Today's topics:
Re: are you using Perl in your job? <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim>
Re: are you using Perl in your job? <s.denaxas@gmail.com>
Re: are you using Perl in your job? <abigail@abigail.be>
Re: are you using Perl in your job? <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: are you using Perl in your job? <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: could you use array or string as hash key in Perl? <check.sig@for.email.invalid>
Re: could you use array or string as hash key in Perl? <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: could you use array or string as hash key in Perl? <uri@stemsystems.com>
perl and unix command <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Re: perl and unix command <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
Re: perl and unix command <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Re: perl and unix command <glennj@ncf.ca>
Re: perl and unix command <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Re: perl and unix command <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
Re: perl and unix command <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Re: perl and unix command <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: perl and unix command <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk>
Re: Sharing object between threads - howto? ldiecks@gmail.com
TimeZone calculation on Windows Vista with DateTime::Ti <ver_amitabh@yahoo.com>
Re: turn off special characters in a string <dalessio@motorola.NOSPAM.com>
Re: utf8 and HTML Entities <ng7067@gmx.com>
wholesale sport shoes,clothing,electronics in china ww <shopbb@hotmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:33:51 +0100
From: bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim>
Subject: Re: are you using Perl in your job?
Message-Id: <13f4c3fsgu0ub4f@corp.supernews.com>
Summercool wrote:
> I heard there are many many Perl programmers. But the job interviews
> I went to lately, they either use Java, PHP, Python, or Ruby. So I
> wonder for all the people who know Perl quite well, are you using Perl
> in your job?
>
Many (experienced) people use a wide range of languages,
as the need of the project dictate.
It's difficult to have a 20 year plus career and end
up knowing only one langauge.
BugBear
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:58:40 -0000
From: Spiros Denaxas <s.denaxas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: are you using Perl in your job?
Message-Id: <1190278720.466518.9060@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 20, 9:33 am, bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote:
> Summercool wrote:
> > I heard there are many many Perl programmers. But the job interviews
> > I went to lately, they either use Java, PHP, Python, or Ruby. So I
> > wonder for all the people who know Perl quite well, are you using Perl
> > in your job?
>
> Many (experienced) people use a wide range of languages,
> as the need of the project dictate.
>
> It's difficult to have a 20 year plus career and end
> up knowing only one langauge.
>
> BugBear
Yes, we only use Perl complimented by Mason for templating. We also
use the occasional js for Google maps and frontend operations. I would
have to strongly agree with the other replies, just look for a Perl
oriented job. Subscribing to the jobs@ lists of your local Perl
Mongers group is a great start. For one, I know there are more than
enough openings in London at the moment.
Good luck,
Spiros
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 09:15:15 GMT
From: Abigail <abigail@abigail.be>
Subject: Re: are you using Perl in your job?
Message-Id: <slrnff4efh.8no.abigail@alexandra.abigail.be>
_
bugbear (bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim) wrote on VCXXXIII September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:13f4c3fsgu0ub4f@corp.supernews.com>:
`` Summercool wrote:
`` > I heard there are many many Perl programmers. But the job interviews
`` > I went to lately, they either use Java, PHP, Python, or Ruby. So I
`` > wonder for all the people who know Perl quite well, are you using Perl
`` > in your job?
`` >
``
`` Many (experienced) people use a wide range of languages,
`` as the need of the project dictate.
I've been able to restrict myself to shell, awk, C, SQL & Perl for
20+ years.
``
`` It's difficult to have a 20 year plus career and end
`` up knowing only one langauge.
Pffft. They still need COBOL programmers.... ;-)
Abigail
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:09:13 -0700
From: Paul Lalli <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: are you using Perl in your job?
Message-Id: <1190293753.690352.183050@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 19, 1:30 pm, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I heard there are many many Perl programmers. But the job
> interviews I went to lately, they either use Java, PHP, Python,
> or Ruby. So I wonder for all the people who know Perl quite well,
> are you using Perl in your job?
Yup. In the full-time job, I use 80% Perl, 15% C, 5% shell. I have
teammates who also use Java, but I've thankfully been spared from any
of those projects.
The part time job is teaching Perl to college students, so yeah, you
could say I use Perl there.
Paul Lalli
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:09:45 -0700
From: Paul Lalli <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: are you using Perl in your job?
Message-Id: <1190293785.176899.52450@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 19, 1:30 pm, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I heard there are many many Perl programmers. But the job
> interviews I went to lately, they either use Java, PHP, Python,
> or Ruby.
Then go to better job interviews. http://jobs.perl.org
Paul Lalli
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:17:38 +0300
From: Alex <check.sig@for.email.invalid>
Subject: Re: could you use array or string as hash key in Perl?
Message-Id: <l8pIi.225831$KL3.31648@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi>
Ben Morrow wrote:
> No, keys are strings (except in tied hashes). This is important, as it
> is why using a ref as a key doesn't work.
Why not? Refs can be stringified, no?
>> If you try to use a non-scalar as a key, that non- scalar is evaluated
>> in scalar context.
>
> ...and then stringified.
>
> Ben
Alex
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:58:27 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: could you use array or string as hash key in Perl?
Message-Id: <qcd4f31i1h02rjh39ledqdd2cnh2fdbvag@4ax.com>
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:17:38 +0300, Alex <check.sig@for.email.invalid>
wrote:
>> No, keys are strings (except in tied hashes). This is important, as it
>> is why using a ref as a key doesn't work.
>
>Why not? Refs can be stringified, no?
Yes, it can, but he meant exactly what I wrote in another post in this
thread, i.e. that the stringification is a one-way tranformation, so
that when accessing the keys of such a hash one can not hope of using
those as references, which may or may not be what the OP wants, but
that in case happens to confuse some people. See
perldoc -q 'reference.*key'
Michele
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(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:57:36 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: could you use array or string as hash key in Perl?
Message-Id: <x7odfx2xlr.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "A" == Alex <check.sig@for.email.invalid> writes:
A> Ben Morrow wrote:
>> No, keys are strings (except in tied hashes). This is important, as it
>> is why using a ref as a key doesn't work.
A> Why not? Refs can be stringified, no?
and i use refs for keys in a few places. i have both the keys and values
are the same refs (of course i know the keys are stringified). it is a
very good method to use to track a collection of objects or things in
one place say in a class that needs to also know about all of the
objects it has created. you either need to use weak refs or a
delete call on that hash to make sure you don't leak ram.
uri
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:11:58 -0700
From: lerameur <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Subject: perl and unix command
Message-Id: <1190293918.582091.132790@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
Hello,
I am writting a perl scipt in unix and I will invoking some unix
commands in my script. If the first command takes a few minutes to
process, how do I make sure the second command do not start until the
first command is finished ?
thanks
ken
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:19:29 -0400
From: Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: perl and unix command
Message-Id: <fcts12$eer$1@knot.queensu.ca>
lerameur wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am writting a perl scipt in unix and I will invoking some unix
> commands in my script. If the first command takes a few minutes to
> process, how do I make sure the second command do not start until the
> first command is finished ?
perldoc -f system
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:39:39 -0700
From: lerameur <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: perl and unix command
Message-Id: <1190295579.216299.311630@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
> > Hello,
>
> > I am writting a perl scipt in unix and I will invoking some unix
> > commands in my script. If the first command takes a few minutes to
> > process, how do I make sure the second command do not start until the
> > first command is finished ?
>
> perldoc -f system
..
/>perldoc -f system
ksh: perldoc: not found
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 13:42:37 GMT
From: Glenn Jackman <glennj@ncf.ca>
Subject: Re: perl and unix command
Message-Id: <slrnff4u6e.db8.glennj@smeagol.ncf.ca>
At 2007-09-20 09:39AM, "lerameur" wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > I am writting a perl scipt in unix and I will invoking some unix
> > > commands in my script. If the first command takes a few minutes to
> > > process, how do I make sure the second command do not start until the
> > > first command is finished ?
> >
> > perldoc -f system
>
> ..
>
> />perldoc -f system
> ksh: perldoc: not found
As you're using google already, you might want to use its search
function. I hear its pretty good...
--
Glenn Jackman
"You can only be young once. But you can always be immature." -- Dave Barry
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:57:34 -0700
From: lerameur <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: perl and unix command
Message-Id: <1190296654.639923.176320@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 20, 9:42 am, Glenn Jackman <gle...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> At 2007-09-20 09:39AM, "lerameur" wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > Hello,
>
> > > > I am writting a perl scipt in unix and I will invoking some unix
> > > > commands in my script. If the first command takes a few minutes to
> > > > process, how do I make sure the second command do not start until the
> > > > first command is finished ?
>
> > > perldoc -f system
>
> > ..
>
> > />perldoc -f system
> > ksh: perldoc: not found
>
> As you're using google already, you might want to use its search
> function. I hear its pretty good...
google?
1,680,000 results, most of them refering to unix command in perl, in
the one I looked, have not seen any with execution time analysis
between commands.
maybe you have googled one
k
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:08:36 -0400
From: Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: perl and unix command
Message-Id: <fctut5$s9f$1@knot.queensu.ca>
lerameur wrote:
> google?
> 1,680,000 results, most of them refering to unix command in perl, in
> the one I looked, have not seen any with execution time analysis
> between commands.
> maybe you have googled one
You didn't ask about "execution time analysis".
Show us an example of what you're trying to do.
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:28:41 -0700
From: lerameur <lerameur@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: perl and unix command
Message-Id: <1190298521.905190.323190@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 20, 10:08 am, Tony Curtis <tony_curti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> lerameur wrote:
> > google?
> > 1,680,000 results, most of them refering to unix command in perl, in
> > the one I looked, have not seen any with execution time analysis
> > between commands.
> > maybe you have googled one
>
> You didn't ask about "execution time analysis".
>
> Show us an example of what you're trying to do.
I though I did in the first message.
Example:
> scan_log.pl
> rm *.log
here are the two unix command I want to put in a perl script, The scan
log script can take 2 minutes to do the scan. I want to make sure the
rm *.log command to starts after the scan_log. I am scared that once
the scan_log.pl has been read, the script will go to the next line and
run the rm *.log command before the scan_log.pl has finished scanning.
ken
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:42:30 -0700
From: Paul Lalli <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: perl and unix command
Message-Id: <1190299350.027649.62040@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>
On Sep 20, 9:39 am, lerameur <leram...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I am writting a perl scipt in unix and I will invoking some
> > > unix commands in my script. If the first command takes a few
> > > minutes to process, how do I make sure the second command do
> > > not start until the first command is finished ?
>
> > perldoc -f system
>
> ..
>
> />perldoc -f system
> ksh: perldoc: not found
Your installation of Perl is broken. Have your local sysadmins fix
it.
In the meantime, perldoc on the web: http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/system.html
Paul Lalli
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:34:35 +0100
From: Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk>
Subject: Re: perl and unix command
Message-Id: <r0das4xrnk.ln2@news.roaima.co.uk>
lerameur <lerameur@yahoo.com> wrote:
> />perldoc -f system
> ksh: perldoc: not found
Ask your System Administrator to install perl properly.
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:59:26 -0700
From: ldiecks@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Sharing object between threads - howto?
Message-Id: <1190282366.849881.269210@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
On 11 Sep., 21:00, Mike Pomraning <mjp-p...@pilcrow.madison.wi.us>
wrote:
> Yes, easily. Thread::Queue, for example, does this:
>
> sub new {
> my $class = shift;
> my @q : shared = @_;
> return bless \@q, $class;
> }
Hello Mike,
thank you for your detailed answer (constructor)! Using Thread::Queue
I was able to solve the problem. This saved me from many sleepless
nights :-)
Regards,
Lejf
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:01:32 -0700
From: Ami <ver_amitabh@yahoo.com>
Subject: TimeZone calculation on Windows Vista with DateTime::TimeZone
Message-Id: <1190293292.324305.28620@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
Hi All,
I am using Windows Vista with ActivePerl 5.8.8.822. I have
downloaded the latest DateTime::TimeZone package from CPAN (DateTime-
TimeZone-0.67). When I write a small script to work with it, I always
get error stating that "Cannot determine local time zone.". After
debugging, I came to know that DateTime package of Perl reads the
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control
\TimeZoneInformation\StandardName" to access this information which is
supposed to contain a Windows name for the time zone (e.g.) but in
Windows Vista, it contains some dll entry point information
(@tzres.dll,-492).
The code snippet with which I am trying to work is as follows:
use DateTime::TimeZone;
my $tz = DateTime::TimeZone->new( name => 'local' );
$tz = DateTime::TimeZone::Local->TimeZone();
Can any one help me to make it working on Windows Vista?
Thanks in advance for your help and time.
Regards
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:49:05 -0500
From: "Mario D'Alessio" <dalessio@motorola.NOSPAM.com>
Subject: Re: turn off special characters in a string
Message-Id: <fcrrc4$h7e$1@newshost.mot.com>
<wong_powah@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1190150566.038724.36690@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> My string has special characters '@' and '$'.
> How to escape them (turn them off)?
> e.g.
> $newpw is entered as "1q@W3e$R";
>
> chop($newpw = <STDIN>);
> system("changepw -newpw \"$newpw\" -oldpw \"$oldpw\" \n\");
>
> $newpw becomes "1q@W3e" (the "$R" is chopped).
To avoid escaping quotes, your system call could be (note that
you don't need the \n at the end):
system( qq( changepw -newpw "$newpw" -oldpw "$oldpw" ));
From Perl docs on "system" function: "If there is only one scalar argument,
the argument is checked for shell metacharacters, and if there are any, the
entire argument is passed to the system's command shell for parsing." So,
the command line you have is being passed to your shell for processing. Your
shell is probably interpreting the $... as variables, effectively stripping
them. To avoid this, pass multiple args to "system":
system( 'changepw', '-newpw', $newpw, '-oldpw', $oldpw );
Perl will now call changepw directly rather than using the shell.
Mario
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:49:29 +0200
From: Nick Gerber <ng7067@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: utf8 and HTML Entities
Message-Id: <46f27a62$1@news01>
I tried HTML/Entities.pm, but it didn't do the trick for me. But, it was
me that could not make it to do the conversion for me. I'll try again.
Thanks
Ben Bullock wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:59:02 +0200, Nick Gerber wrote:
>
>
>> I have a string encodet in utf8 with part HTML Entities and part
>> characters in utf-8.
>>
>> How do I translate the HTML Entities into proper utf-8?
>
> Since this must be a commonly encountered problem, my first guess would be
> to try cpan to save myself the bother of writing it myself. I rapidly found:
>
> http://search.cpan.org/~gaas/HTML-Parser-3.56/lib/HTML/Entities.pm
>
> Please note that I can't vouch for this software since I have not tried it.
>
> As far as utf8 goes you need to use the "Encode" module.
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Michael
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